Bryan Colangelo: Pay Attention. Here We Go!

by PaullyPforPrez on Feb 2, 2012 12:52 PM EST

First off I would just like to start by saying, I'm not really a raptors fan, I'm just a basketball fan, I love a bunch of teams and hate others (The Lakers). Here is what it's going to take to save the Raptors:

1: Trade Demar Derozan and (Jaryd Bayless, Rasual Butler or Gary Forbes) to Now Orleans for Chris Kaman and (Ariza, Summers or Vazquez) Cap releif for the Hornets + they get Demar Derozan while he still has some value. Sign Kaman to a 3 year deal around 6-7 Mil a year.

2: Find a way to get Shannon Brown from Phoenix, I don't know how or who you have to trade but he can't be worth that much he was a FA and landed in Phoenix.

3: Throw all the money we have at Wilson Chandler and Eric Gordon in the off season. (Obviously if we got Ariza no need to sign Chandler)

4: Use Ed Davis as bait to try and get another 1st round pick, regardless of where it is in this deep draft.

Making our roster for the start of 2013:

PG: Jose Calderon, Draft pick received in Ed Davis trade, AC

SG: Eric Gordon, Raptors draft pick, Vazquez or Forbes

SF: Wilson Chandler or Ariza, Shannon Brown, James Johnson

PF: Andrea Bargani, Amir Johnson

C: Chris Kaman, Jonas Valuncunias, Alabi

Not only are these moves realistic, they keep the Raptors young, we get bigger, we platoon a respectable platoon at 3 and we become a much much deeper basketball team all the while maintaining our defense for coach Dwayne Casey.

The Hornets want cap relief and want to get rid of Kaman, we need a respectable C in case Valunciunas starts slow.

Shannon Brown really can't be that hard to pry away from Phoenix.

We keep our 2012 pick + we add another while getting rid of 1 of the 2 Amir Johnsons we have on this team (Ed Davis)

There are going to be injury concerns regarding Gordon, TAKE THE RISK, what do we have to lose!

And Wilson Chandler could start for a number of teams in the NBA why not the Raptors!!!!!!

There you have it Bryan, really not that hard, and since you already tanked the season this year trade Derozan and start Forbes.

I know there will be some haters out there but this is actually quite realistic and not very far off at all.

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raptors would be taking back around 21 million from the Hornets in salary while giving up maybe 6million. Unfortunately that trade isn’t allowed. Kaman is around 15mill and Ariza 6million. Demar is only 3.5 million and the other players mentioned are barely over 2million if that. If we did it for just Kaman, he is a free agent at the end of the year, so we could lose Demar for nothing and on top of that we still have Jonas coming over, so why do we need to pay 12million to Amir and Kaman as back up bigs?

next problem, Eric Gordon is a restricted free agent, which means that Hornets can match any offer, plus the Pacers are going to throw a max contact at Gordon. Who would you sign with Pacers or Raptors? Than Hornets can still match.

Shannon Brown is on a one year contract for 3.5million, and is a free agent at the end of the year. We are better to try and sign him then, rather than give up young pieces. Unless he is willing to sign an extension.

The only way we get Chandler is through a trade exception, which we will acquire by trading Jose. So realistically that team you put forth can’t happen beacuse

1) Jose will have to go if Chandler is to come.

2) We can’t offer enough salary to get Kaman without going over the cap, unless we part with some of other players like Kleiza or Amir, but that doesn’t help the Hornets and would increase their payroll going forward.

3) We won’t get Gordon.

by Shalax23 on Feb 2, 2012 5:17 PM EST reply actions

First off, move Kleiza then

Demar and Kleiza to the Hornets and maybe even a third body bringing back Kaman and Summers. Again Cap relief, the Hornets could Amnesty Kleiza and they get back Demar while he still has value. Kaman wouldn’t be a back up to Jonas, no way no how, not right away that’s for sure.

Gordon is a restricted free agent but I would beleive we could offer the max plus a signing bonus that Indiana might not be able to match.

Chandler is a FA, he was going to be a FA during the lockout but he went to China so no one signed him, Wilson Chandler can play ball and I would love him on this roster.

As for Shannon, i’m fine with signing him, but if we could make a trade and get rid of a body already on the roster i’m completley fine with eith scenario.

Also i am in agreeance to trading Jose but to who for who is the question. It’s fine to be young but you need a floor general and without one this team would struggle mightly.

"Big Gulps Eh, Well See ya later" - Lloyd Christmas
" You Gus ready To Let The Dogs Out" "What?" " you Know, Who Let the dogs out rough rough rogh rough" - Zack Galifinakis - The Hangover

by PaullyPforPrez on Feb 3, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions

they can't ..

you are not allowed to amnesty a player you acquire after the new cba has been signed. therefore the hornets couldn’t amnesty kleiza.

we can’t offer them more money than anyone else. the most we can offer is 4/62 million, which indiana can offer as well. the hornets can offer 5yrs 81 million, thats the advantage of the new cba, so no we won’t get gordon. gordon is not going anywhere, new orleans won’t let him go considering he was one of the key pieces in the CP3 trade along with the Timberwolves draft pick (unprotected).

The money still doesn’t add up for Kaman. Demar/Kleiza make a total of 8million, and Kaman is making 14 million. Plus it doesn’t offer cap relief because the Hornets would be stuff with those salaries long term, instead of losing Kaman at the end of the year. Plus the young player they are bringing back has lost value this year and plays the same position as Gordon.

Its not happening.

by Shalax23 on Feb 3, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions

hmmmm

This might have been one of the worst proposals I have ever heard. Give your head a shake pal. Thats all I have to say to this piece of dog sh*t

by Traptors on Feb 2, 2012 10:24 PM EST reply actions

Clearly

You have no idea about basketball if this team i just presented is a piece of dog pooh.

A starting line up consisting of 2 7’ footers( 1 poster, one range shooter), a bonafide young star, an athletic 3 and floor general is pretty good. Add in a competitive bench with 3 young talents an athletic 3 and good solid reserve 4 makes this team one of the deepest in the entire NBA.

If we had Andrea and Eric as our go toos, with Wilson Chandler and Chris Kaman adding in additional scoring with Jose dropping dimes this team would be a force to be wrecking with.

"Big Gulps Eh, Well See ya later" - Lloyd Christmas
" You Gus ready To Let The Dogs Out" "What?" " you Know, Who Let the dogs out rough rough rogh rough" - Zack Galifinakis - The Hangover

by PaullyPforPrez on Feb 3, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions

HUH

Give me some of that smack your smoking.

by OzRapsFan on Feb 2, 2012 11:20 PM EST reply actions

I know a hell of a lot more than you

Throwing out fairy tale ideas. Theres no chance in hell we sign eric gordon. Bargnani and valanciunas give us that 2 seven footer plan of yours one being an inside presence and one being an outside. I would rather we draft perry jones at small forward that gives us a 6"11 small forward with good handles and a solid shooter and good defender. That sounds a hell of a lot better to me. Trade barbosa to a team trying to make the playoffs for a first rounder and hope they dont do as well as planned so we get another pick in the 15-20 range where we can hopefully get a point guard like kendall marshall or kabongo. Hopefully nash will want to finish his career in toronto and he can be the perfect mentor for our young pg. If not keep calderon around to be the mentor thats not a bad second option. Then we have a tonne of cap room to sign solid complimentary pieces to make us a good team.

Now theres a real proposal not your idiotic dream.

by Traptors on Feb 3, 2012 12:13 PM EST reply actions

Nash in T.O.

Keep dreaming, Draft another, bigger Demar Derozan great idea, not only will we be the wrost 3 point shooting team in the NBA we will be the most inconsistent.

Why is there no chance on Eric Gordon??

You think Valunciunas is going to be ready for the NBA next year, again keep dreaming.

This just in WE NEED NBA LEVEL TALENT, not pipe dreams!!!!!!!! The only smart thing you said was trade Barbosa, but then you made it even worse by saying we would get within 15-20 range???? There are 3 teams out there right now that could use Barbosa. Lakers & Celtics & Magic. the only realistic team is Boston, there the only team that can afford him and we would definatkey have to take a player back.

Who are the complementary peices you speak of to add to the amazing core or Demar, Andrea and Valunciunas. name me the last time 2 european big men made it to the playoffs, smartin up man. all these fans thinking Valuncunias is going to save this team, again keep dreaming, he’s a 7 footer with no range, no handle and he can jump a little. When was the last time anyone with that skill set was dominant, oh wait there isn’t and for all those comparisons to Alonzo, Alonzo had the second best timing in NBA history only second to Dikembe!

You don’t know Jack so don’t come on here tellin me I don’t know anything, your just another avid raps fan that thinks he knows all, i made a suggestion as to what i thought was a good basketball team, and just to add to this, Is Kaman an All Star? yeah he is, is Demar, Never will be!

"Big Gulps Eh, Well See ya later" - Lloyd Christmas
" You Gus ready To Let The Dogs Out" "What?" " you Know, Who Let the dogs out rough rough rogh rough" - Zack Galifinakis - The Hangover

by PaullyPforPrez on Feb 3, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions

Your an idiot

I can’t wait for perry jones to become a legitimate nba player. A bigger demar derozan…good one meathead he is better than derozan at every aspect. I guarantee you valanciunas becomes a solid nba centre too. as for nash im pretty sure first of all triano still works for the raps and second of all he didnt play for canada because hes old and needs time off inbetween seasons and hes done enough for canadian basketball anyways. Who cares if its 2 european big men they are different skill sets and can compliment each other well. Chris Kaman is a plug and a bandaid he would do absolutely nothing for the raptors. sweet he made one allstar team…so did magloire so apparently wed have the 2 best big men according to this idiot. guarantee you the raptors will do a lot more of what i said and a hell of a lot less than one pauly d over here is saying.

by Traptors on Feb 3, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions

you should tell each other you have cooties.

on a funny note..

he’s a 7 footer with no range, no handle and he can jump a little.

couldn’t that reasoning be used to describe Kaman? Why then should we bother to get him.

On top of that JV actually shoots the ball well from the elbow and is 80+% free throw, (better than Kaman). Patric Young is also expected to go first round in the draft this year, and Jonas destroyed him in the U19. (Patric was 10/7 Jonas was 23/14 with 3.2 blks per game). JV is also younger and cheaper than Kaman. While Kaman is obviously more polished who will be better in 4 years?

So if you want to keep name calling do it, but it really isn’t helping either of you.

by Shalax23 on Feb 3, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions

And what if Perry Jones down't turn out

you gunna beat me up? Oh no i questioned you oooooooo.

Chris Kaman is far from a plug, Aaron Grey is a plug, Jamal Magloire is a plug. Chris Kaman could get you 20 and 10 any night of the week!

Kaman was an all star 2 years ago, magloire was an All Star in like 2002 IDIOT!

I don’t care who’s moves they do more of, i’m just tired of them being a waste of time for the NBA. Too long have they been run into the ground, it’s time to do something.

Oh and by the way, kaman would give us a low post scorer a guy that can score with his back to the basket, i guy that opens up the perimeter for all our slashers, A guy that allows Andrea to move to 4 where he belongs, a guy that bang in the paint. Do you even play basketball? He would do nothing, your insane.

"Big Gulps Eh, Well See ya later" - Lloyd Christmas
" You Gus ready To Let The Dogs Out" "What?" " you Know, Who Let the dogs out rough rough rogh rough" - Zack Galifinakis - The Hangover

by PaullyPforPrez on Feb 3, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions

down't? sweet spelling now i feel bad for arguing with a 3 year old

Whats with your man crush on chris kaman. get over him hes brutal, not what we need, and would possibly give us a couple extra wins and give us a worse pick in the draft. thank god bc is the general manager and not dj pauly d.

by Traptors on Feb 4, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions