Tip-In: "Bricklaying" - Raptors Offensive Woes Continue in Boston Against Celtics

well you are right about Bargs and in actual fact he does make this team better. He opens it up for other players as other teams have to guard him. There is no one to target on raptors and they figure lets just shut down demar or barbosa and really that’s easy to do since both cant get it going consistently. If we had a better team, can you imagine with bargs how far we can go? I guess we got to wait till next year with another euro talent who will probably be great as well! I hope we get chandler too, trade few players for him… offer him a lot…. hes young and has promise so why not…hes better then most of our team! then we can have a good nucleus, with a couple draft pics next year it will look good.

Time to move the pieces that can be moved. Raptors should move Calderon to Indiana before they realise that D.Will might be available lol. Seriously though, moving Calderon and Barbosa for picks/players is probably the right move going forward but I doubt Calderon gets moved this year.

Anyone notice Calderon is not that effective running team without andrea? its amazing what one player can do I wonder how many games we would have won last year without andrea lol even though he was not playing as good this year…. other teams did guard him last year and he was just getting use to it. maybe we would have won 5 games lol

Don’t rub Bargnani in their faces just let it go

when you look at Amir’s stat line for the season Bargnani seems to have little impact on his production.

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3982/gamelog;_ylt=AsDSD1RaSaOvaXINCcN8DWr9RgU6

The first three games sans-bargs were Amir for the season like. Sometime after the first Atlanta game things changed. The two games Bargnani returned Amir dropped 6 – 1 and 4 – 2 respectively.

His minutes ofcourse have changed significantly. Now why have his minutes come down? Can’t play C? Lack of effort? Injuries? Trying to avoid fouls and its killing his flow? I’m don’t know.

But I’m not sure there is a direct Bargnani impact on Amir (or Derozan as others have said) anymore than we have expected Amir to step up in Bargnani’s abscences and he, well, hasn’t.

I’m very bitter and confused about how this season’s going. The Raptors should not have 4-5 teams behind them in the standings. This team is absolutely horrendous. The worst part is that it’s so hard to be optimistic when two players who are supposed to be KEY players going forward (Demar and Ed) have shown no progress at all. Yet, Casey’s somehow managed to scrape together a few wins. How is this a good thing? The bottom line is, name any team in the league save for the Bobcats and there’s at least one untouchable player there. On the Raptors? Every damn player is expendable. They’ll win a game here and there on the backs of players who mean nothing to the team’s future (Barbosa, for example). There’s not one person on the team who makes me say, “Damn, in 3 years, with this guy and some other pieces around him, we can make some noise.” Trade Barbosa, trade Calderon, commit to sucking properly.

If this team ends up with another middling talent with a pick in the late lottery, damn I’m gonna be pissed.

if we don’t get a top 3 pick then we have to rely on luck to draft a fanchise guy. It’s possible tho, hopefully anyway

Yes to everything.
Just nothin we can do as fans…except pitch bitches here.

Having Gray as your hope is, well…sad. I know he loves the opportunity, but as a team…that is not good.

My only complaint is everybody saying Amir can be a stud with Bargs.
OK…so what?
Most could be. Even Gray would suddenly become a threat in the post if you had such a threat outside.
And I get upset when I hear about inguries and funks becuase YOU GET PAID.
You get paid big money to play a game!
So show up every damn night and kiss the floor you are allowed to play on instead of working a dead end job like the rest of us.
I want to smack any professional player when I hear about mental funks!

What really bothers me is the poor shooting. With or without Bargs, this horrid shooting is like listening to your mother in law when you have the flu…

Or that PEG solution for my colonoscopy!!!!…OMG just hurtful.

Is it mental?
Dunno…don’t know much about these guys, professiona careers or college.
But I am seeing them stink up the floor.
I don’t care how hard you play defense…IF the team is going to run down the court after playing good defense and only see clunkers hitting off the backboard or rim,,,time after time after time after time…you check out on defense.

PLEASE stop these jump shots from outside!
Please!

As there isn’t too much to say on last nights game, figured I would break down the rumored deal and salary implications.

If we sign Chandler I am hoping that it is for something reasonable around 6.5mill-7.5mill/per year. He is obviously not a franchise caliber player and when we get into that 10million dollar per year range we are talking about players like Monta Ellis and Andrea Bargnani, which I don’t think he is at that level yet. On top of that competition for him will be at a minimum because most teams are over the cap and don’t need a small forward.

If we sign Chandler for 7million/4yrs and traded Jose that would actually bring out salary down 3.5million for next year. Meaning we would have 35.5 million commited to our players, on top of that you have to figure Jonas will get 3million and another high draft pick for 3.5million, bringing our total up to 42 million.

Here’s were a little guess work begins, with signing Chandler, I don’t understand why we would keep Kleiza. We would have Chandler and Johnson at the 3 and with Kleiza being paid 4.6million over the next two seasons. If we did amnesty Kleiza that would bring our pay role down to abotu 37million in salary and give us alot of wiggle room.

Another key to this deal, in my mind is Colangelo is banking on not getting a top 3 pick. With how everything is looking the Raptors could be in line for that 5-8 range. We are looking at MGK, Jeremy Lamb and Austin Rivers. All of who seem to have the ability to play the 2 or 3.

That would leave the Raptors with a line up of….

Pg: Bayless
Sg: Draft pick/DD
Sf: Chandler
Pf: Andrea
C: Jonas

On the bench we would Amir, Ed, Gray (assume he resigns), DD(draft pick) and Johnson, yet still have 15million dollar in cap space. To hopefully fill that Pg with a player like Andrea Miller, and some depth.

While I don’t know if it is striking fear in the Miami Heat, it definitely isn’t a game that teams would take as a guaranteed win.