3 in the Key - Raptors' Game-Day Preview vs. Blazers
A 4 and 11 start to the season is pretty bad, but should Raptors' fans have expected anything else? The HQ takes a look at the Dinos after 15 games, breaking down exactly what's going on at both sides of the court as they head into tonight's match versus the Blazers.
The Toronto Raptors have lost six straight games.
Fact.
But as fans, we all are quite aware of said fact, and considering the team's schedule, recent offensive woes, and injury issues, this is perhaps not very surprising.
So here's a question. Is this team falling short of expectations?
In other words, was anyone expecting more than a 4 and 11 record after 15 games?
I know personally my expectations were higher. But not by much. I had guessed a 7 and 15 record for the Dinos by the end of January, and with only seven games left, and a mere four wins, it's admittedly tough to see the club hitting that mark. This is especially true considering that after tonight's match against the Portland Trailblazers, the Raps head back out on the road to face the Clippers, Suns, Jazz, Nuggets and Nets before finishing off the month at home against the Hawks.
Sound like a lot of wins coming in that stretch?
Not so much, with only the Suns and Nets looking like even remote possibilities as W's.
Really, I think expectations soared prematurely after Toronto's solid start, a start that I warned was likely due to schedule more than a club that was ready to make a playoff run.
Don't get me wrong, the D has improved.
The team is allowing only 92.1 points per game, ninth best in the league, and while again, a good chunk of this is due to pace, the 19th best defensive efficiency rating, Toronto's current mark, is still miles ahead of their ranking from the last few seasons.
The problem of course is on offense where the club has the league's third-worst offensive efficiency rating. The Raps sport one of the worst effective field goal and true shooting percentages in the league, and considering their utter reluctance to attack the rim, it's no wonder. Toronto is getting to the free-throw line 19.5 times per game, among the lowest in the league. And considering they're allowing opponents to get there nearly 30 times per match, that huge differential has the Dinos in the hole each and every night. They're essentially spotting their opposition 10 points and hoping to make it up via long-range jumpers.
And as mentioned, looking at their shooting numbers, you can see why this isn't working, and why the losses are piling up.
Essentially, 15 games into the season, the Toronto Raptors are a decent defensive team, but play a defensive style that's predicated on a high foul rate, one their opponents are taking advantage of thanks to Toronto's inability to attack the rim. Therefore the club is forced to try and make up the difference on the scoreboard via jump shots, and with a team of mediocre shooters, this proves impossible on most nights.
The answer then is not to simply "knock down more Jimmies," as Jack Armstrong might say.
The answer, starting tonight, is to attack the rim, the first of our three keys for the Raps this evening, as they take on the Portland Trailblazers:
1) Get to the foul line. Simple math. If you allow opponents 30 foul shots a game, you should probably take about the same amount to give your team a chance to keep the score close. Sure, the opposing team might not hit said shots, but if you keep giving them up, there's a higher probability that you're going to have some catching up to do. Toronto has to start getting more opportunities in this fashion if it's going to keep fouling at such a high rate. Without Andrea Bargnani, only DeMar DeRozan is getting to the line more than three times a game, and that's got to change. THREE? For someone with his athletic gifts that's just not going to cut it. That doesn't mean the club should be taking bad shots, but tonight I'll be looking to see more attacking going on inside the painted area period. The Dinos are attempting only nine shots a game from the "3 to 9 foot" range, the worst mark in the league outside of the Charlotte Bobcats.
2) Dictate Pace: The Raptors play at the fourth slowest pace in the league. The Blazers play at the fifth fastest pace. Something's gotta give. If the Blazers are allowed to play at the speed they want to, this one could be over in a flash. Toronto's defense is predicated on slowing things down to a plod so if Portland is allowed to get out and score easy baskets in transition, I'm not sure how Toronto keeps up. Sure, the argument could be made that minus Bargnani, the team is better built to play this style, but that's on offence. So even if in an up-and-down game the Raps put up more points on the board, they'll likely be offset by giving up more on the other side. No, for the Raptors to get this W, in my books they need to get Portland to play their style and grind out a W.
3) Step Up: I'm not sure who I'm going to aim this last key at, but someone on this team needs to take control minus Bargs. Normally that should be DeRozan, but his play of late has me thinking that perhaps another player like Jose Calderon, or even Gary Forbes, is a better option. In their preview of tonight's game, Blazers' Edge notes that Andrea Bargnani was responsible for a quarter of his team's points and with Bargs likely on the shelf again this evening, someone else has got to get the job done.
Could that someone by Jerryd Bayless? He practiced somewhat gingerly yesterday and is a game-time decision, but perhaps he comes back guns blazing against his former club.
Let's hope so, because we're otherwise looking at another potential 70-some point outing for the Raps, and so far in games where the club fails to score over 85 points, there's not a win to be found.
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Nicolas Batum...
…would look very good as the Raptors starting SF next season. Apparently, he was offended by Portland’s recent offer to extend him. Raps should make a play to sign him this off-season as he’s a restricted FA. Depending how the draft plays out (i.e. don’t draft MKG or Barnes).
Also apparently, he would never sign for the Raps because of something that happened at his draft.
https://twitter.com/#!/WolstatSun
by dhackett1565 on Jan 20, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Raptors balked at him pre-draft citing concerns over a heart condition...
Nothing ever came about, his draft stock fell, and his dad has a real heart condition so it rubbed him the wrong way…
To this day he’s never had an issue…
"the Truth"
And that’s not official, but guessing Ryan and crew will talk to him at the game tonight about it.
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
by Adam Francis on Jan 20, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
French swingman Nicolas Batum, projected to be a late first-round NBA draft pick, stopped participating in a workout with the Toronto Raptors earlier this week after a stress echo test — a treadmill test that measures the health of the heart — came back in the “borderline” area.
There is an issue with Batum, and nothing is clear," his agent, Bouna Ndiaye, told ESPN.com on Friday afternoon. "The number [the score on his stress echo test] could be a borderline problem if he had a family history of heart problems. But I talked to Nicolas’s mother and she said his father didn’t die of a heart problem. His team in France and the French national team test him regularly and said they’ve never seen any indication that he had a heart issue
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MAS, you made me think of something...
Should BOTH MKG and Barnes NOT be an option, who should the Raptors target in the draft and what moves would you make to facilitate that selection…?
"the Truth"
Good question...
For arguments sake, let’s assume they get a top 8 pick and let’s assume they can’t draft Barnes or MKG. Well, according to DraftExpress that leaves the Raps with 5 PFs and one C if we’re going by DrafExpress’ rankings ( http://www.draftexpress.com/ )
So, that puts the Raps in an awkward position as with Davis, Johnson, Bargnani and Jonas already on board, if they have a strength it’s in the front court.
So that leaves the Raps with the following options IMO:
- Trade the pick for player(s)
- Trade down in the draft (ideally for multiple picks)
- Trade one of their existing front court players
This will be the biggest decision Colangelo has had in his tenure with the Raptors as this decision could determine the Raptors path for the next half decade.
There are SO MANY variables that are unknowns at this point though:
- Have we seen the real Bargnani in his first 11 games or will we see a regression to the mean as his sample size increases?
- Is Ed Davis having a softmore slump, or did he over achieve last season?
- Are Anthony Davis, Sullinger or Andre Drummond for example truly franchise altering talents? Future superstars?
A lot to contemplate. Here’s how I would play it, based on a few assumptions… Let’s say Andrea plays reasonably well with a bit of a drop off through the balance of the season and the Raps land in a position to draft Sullinger or Davis or another PF. Let’s also assume that we’re convinced that the player we pick has the potential to be a perennial All-Star. I would probably lean towards trading Bargnani. This is because you can probably get the most back for him based on his contract, plus I’m just not sold that you can be a legit contender with your PF grabbing 5 or 6 boards a game and being suspect on D.
If you follow this path, the team has a potential perennial All-Star at the PF, the haul from a Bargnani trade, Jonas coming on board and cap space. I’d be down with that…. Again, a lot of interdependencies to consider and a lot we won’t know until the season in done.
Yeah, I pretty much agree with MAS’s assessment of the situation. I think the objective of the coming draft is to get the maximum possible talent infusion. If the best player available to the Raptors is a PF or C then they take that guy and then start trading parts to get the best combination.
As far as players in the upcoming draft, you have to look at guys like MKG or Anthony Davis who would fit really well with the team first defense-oriented philosophy that Casey is preaching. Barnes is of course the most natural fit given the current hole at SF.
With so many unknowns at this point, the main thing the Raptors should be focused on now is doing the best job they can of scouting the draft and working hard to realistically assess the players on the current roster. Do they fit the long term? What are they worth in the trade market? Who do you keep and who do you move? That kind of thing.
by DW19 on Jan 20, 2012 12:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not to mention...
…assuming this organization makes the right decisions (draft-wise and through F.A.), by the time they are ready to compete or contend (if you will) Bargs will be on the tail end of his prime. Might as well trade him sooner than later as I don’t see how he fits comfortably in our rebuild.
Sound reasoning for sure...
Further assumptions I would add :
Barbosa gets traded during season for a pick and ?
DeMar has a short leash with regard to showing himself worthy of the starting SG spot… at this point I am leaning towards he becomes a bench player unfortunately…
One of James Johnson / Kleiza / Butler get packaged in the Barbosa deal, effecting the quality of return, or at least the salary of the return…
"the Truth"
Realistically, my best intuition tells me it will play out similar to this...
Jose stays to mentor Bayless and another new PG…
Barbosa and Ed get packaged for a first rounder and above mentioned PG…
We miss out on Barnes but pick up MKG in the draft…
Butler gets waived…
Magloire is not extended… Gray is…
Forbes and DeMar backup Free Agent SG acquired to be a real starter…
2012-2013 Opening Day Lineup
? / Calderon / Bayless
F.A. / DeRozan / Forbes
Kleiza / MKG / Johnson
Bargnani / Johnson
Valanciunas / Gray
Fill in your ? and F.A. as you wish…
"the Truth"
My gut tells me that James Johnson will improve enough to be opening day starter and eventually lose the spot to MKG...
Kleiza will improve enough to have trade value next year rather than be outright amnestied…
"the Truth"
Interesting
Who would you target as the FA SG? Also, who do you like as the PG? Personally, would love it they somehow got a second first rounder to target Kabongo.
Like the idea...
Ginobli isn’t the long term answer though and there’s no way on God’s green earth the Spurs are taking back Beasly! LOL
Popovich will retire to his vineyard if that happens.
In my original Scenario...
The Barbosa / Davis trade gets us our second first rounder, so if we used that on Kabongo, we would acquire a hot young SG I suppose…
hmmm… now I’m getting twisted around…
"the Truth"
Okay so...
The Barbosa trade goes down straight up for a pick, which we turn into Kabongo…
That keeps Ed Davis…and doesn’t bring back a salary…just a TPE… is that still doable DHackett?
We sign FA SG _________ …
I’ll get back to you after lunch…
"the Truth"
Starting to wonder if he might be a better option than demar when he returns. Raps may not even be first in line the way he’s been playing.
We still have his rights when he returns...
We would have to make him an offer he likes but…
"the Truth"
Depends who you trade to. If you’re trading to a team with 8 million in cap space, we sure can end up with a TPE for Barbosa. Or another team with a TPE bigger than 7.6 million already could absorb him as well. But anyone else, we will have to take back at least 5.1 million in salary to make it work for them.
The Lakers have that convenient 8.9 million TPE from the Odom trade just sitting around collecting dust…
by dhackett1565 on Jan 20, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
All good assumptions...
Barbosa: That’s the dream scenarion (especially if there is no unnecessary salary coming back in return)
DeMar: I hope his recent play is simply a crisis of confidence and he finally develops some handles in the offseason, but if not, sadly I totally agree. What really concerns me is that he hasn’t found the ability to do other things (rebound, be a difference maker on the defensive end and facilitate offense and generate assists). So tough to be bullish right now…
Kleiza: Still think he is an amnesty candidate this off-season.
JJ: A keeper for me. He’s a game changer on defense and the offesnsive issues may just be a matter of reps and experience (i.e. learning to hit a mid-range jumper with consistancy and not making bone-headed mistakes/tunovers).
Butler: My mom said if you can’t say anything nice…………………
Amnestying Kleizas salary is completely pointless right now. This team is not going to be good anytime soon and if the team fails to land a quality SF in the draft they will need him to eat up minutes at least. I would rather save the amnesty for Barney in the off chance he hurt bad before the end of his contract. That would be a much bigger albatross around the Raps neck then Kleiza’s 5 mil for 2 more years of at best, mediocre Raptor ball.
Have to agree. There’s no guy on the current Raptors squad that would make you pass on a franchise-altering talent. And that includes Bargnani.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 20, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
If we can get a franchise player than anyone is available. If the raptors could get someone at the level of Durant they should trade whoever the Thunder want. Bargnani, their pick this year and next year, plus DD and Davis. The thunder would still most liekly reject this trade because of how hard it is to get a player like him, especially for the next 5 years.
Just my thinking though.
Right Now
MKG is projected to go eighth. If he is available when the Raptors pick most likely they will draft him. Of course if he isn’t which could be the case there are always
Terrance Jones – SF/PF
Quincy MIller – SF
Jeremy Lamb – SG
whom at least of them should be available when the Raptors pick. Bradley Beal – SG should also be available
Sure lots of guys will be available...
But will the Raps pass on a better talent simply because he is a front court player? I firmly believe they should target the best player available.
4. Stop making mind-numbingly stupid mistakes
Whether it’s sloppy passing, missing two-foot shots, picking up a charge on 3 on 2 break, or completely forgetting about your man whose only purpose in life is to shoot threes, the raps have to get their heads in the game. I understand we a team lacking talent in order to grab a high pick, and I’m happy with the new d but, this team keeps shooting itself in the foot (usually with the ball in their hands) and it’s getting annoying.
but.....
that’s who we are and it would be better to stay the course than fight tooth and nail to get to 10th in the East. Patience. A few more months of patience. then we can all raise our expectations again and demand more.
by defensive rap on Jan 20, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
Andrea and Jerryd will be game time decisions
Amir still has some Pistons fans.
Detroit vs Memphis
Go Pistons. Time to step up and get yourself a win. I will be cheering for the Pistons today.
They Should Have Kept John Hammond and Dumped Dumars
They should also never have given Billups away for cap space with Joe D as the GM
Brandon Rush... meh...
George Hill, Randy Foye, O.J. Mayo, C.J. Myles…
Those appear to be the list of F.A. SG to woo for next year…
Not terribly awe inspiring… there are a couple interesting guys…
"the Truth"
OJ Mayo is my pick of that lot
Regarding Nick Young, I would actually go with DeMar. At least DeMar still has a puncher’s chance of being good. Nick Young is a chucking SG that shoots 38% from the field and does pretty much nothing else. Oh and he has that Wizards stink on him. No thanks…
tough call there, they are both severely flawed at this point
Demar for me because he’s already here and a part of our system
From nbadraft.net
Toronto’s 2011 5th overall pick played a great game against Baltai in the last round of the Adriatic League; in 25 minutes on the court, Jonas scored 21 points, on 10/13 from the floor and 1/2 from the free throw line, and grabbed 9 rebounds. What is surprising in Jonas’ game is his ability to rebound the ball: his instincts, his ability to box-out the opponent and his long arms make him a double-double machine.
This season, Valanciunas is scoring 16.6 points per game and is grabbing over 7 rebounds in the Adriatic League, while in the Eurocup, the second European competition after Euroleague, he is averaging 8.5 points and 6.2 rebounds.
Old News and I Believe Already Posted
But thanks anyway
He was 8 and 13 in his last game. LR lost in overtime. It was their first game in the Eurocup 16 tournament.
The DeRozan Paradox...
In the event that DeMar isn’t going to blossom, and knowing the thinness of the SG F.A. market in the near future… added to the fact that there aren’t many heralded SG prospects in this draft…
How does one trade a mediocre SG for a viable starter replacement SG unless you’re absorbing an ugly contract or head-case?
Typically a team that is willing to take on your written-off SG isn’t going to be looking to give away an upper level SG unless they come with heavy baggage…
I would say that DeMar’s development is one of the key potential snags in what is an otherwise promising rebuild…
Thoughts?
"the Truth"
I think DeRozan is a keeper regardless of if he blossoms or not
Until we are able to acquire a better SG via draft or trade I think he should stay put. You won’t be able to trade him for a better SG bec that isn’t a logical move for the other GM.
Demar for Mayo is premature tho. We know what Mayo is which is a streaky undersized SG who plays subpar def. Not sure a lateral move is the answer. We shouldn’t be so quick to ship our guys out unless we are getting something clearly better.
Demar should stay put unless we have a replacement who is clearly better lined up. Until then I won’t mind seeing his dunks and occassional good play.
That's my paradox...
I don’t think we can upgrade him, using him… he would need to just move to the bench…
A GM, who likes Ed Davis for example, may give up a good SG in trade…
But you just can’t trade a player for a better player at the same position unless you get another GM over a barrel…
"the Truth"
true, won't happen.
I have no problem drafting Jeremy Lamb and moving Demar to SF or the bench. Not in a hurry to trade him tho cuz he’s still young.
I probably should have specified
Getting Mayo for Demar would be about all we could expect (right now). Two years ago I would have seriously loved seeing him in a Raptors uniform. Now, not so much.
Trouble With Being the #1 Scoring Option On The Starting Unit
His shooting and scoring should improve once Bargnani returns.
The overall problem though is the Raptors have to renew his contract this off-season for more money then he is currently worth. If push comes to shove, I would rather the Raptors went out and signed a one year fix or just played Forbes there until next years draft/off-season rather then commit more bad money in the hope that Demar grows into the contract. Of course, I have no delusions about whether that will actually happen or not. Worst case, I let him sign as a Restricted FA elsewhere and match if it is cheap. Let the market dictate his value.
Trading Barbosa
I’ve been wasting a Friday afternoon at work looking at potential trades for Barbosa and am scared to say that I only see two viable options
1. Lakers – they only have 3 guys that can score and their second unit is terrible. Barbosa would inject some life into that unit. The Lakers have their 1st round pick this year but it looks to be in the low 20’s. They also have Dallas’s pick from the Odom trade, but that’s top 20 protected. Also from the Odom trade is a trade exception large enough to take Barbosa and giving us a year with a trade exception ourselves.
Barbosa for Lakers trade exception plus their first would be a reasonable deal.
2. Utah? – IF Utah can keep up their good start, they may want to take a flyer on some bench help for the playoffs seeing as Barbosa is expiring. They too have a trade exception from the Okur trade and have Golden state’s first round pick (top 7 protected).
Barbosa for Utah trade exception plus the Golden State top 7 protected pick would be ideal. I fear Utah could get more from someone else (Boston) though if they wanted to go for it.
The Laker deal seems like the more likely outcome.
Damn you!!
I was working on this exact same post and a customer interrupted me…
I come back to find you have beaten me to it!
Well played sir, well played…
"the Truth"
Even tho the GSW pick is top 7 protected, I think that's too much for Utah to
give up for an expiring Barbosa especially since that pick could be #8 or 9 or smthng like that. That pick is way more valuable than Barbosa.
Lakers however might accept Barbosa and our second round pick for their TPE and Dallas pick. Not sure that’s good for the raptors because I don’t see the Dallas pick being lower than 20 since they aren’t that good this year. If the lakers are giving up thier own pick then I’d jump at that.
The thing that makes a lot of sense about the Lakers trade...
Is that it gives them the ability to rest Kobe, still score some points, and use a player who plays a similar game as Kobe…
In the sense that he likes to handle the ball a lot and force his shots… (read impose his will)…
"the Truth"
Watching that Miami game last night, the Lakers need some bench depth. Darius Morris played 18 minutes for them last night! Barbosa would be a major upgrade.
Why they didn’t feed Bynum the ball more often is beyond me. Miami has no answer for him. Kobe’s solution after the game? Going back to what they were doing a week ago and getting him (Kobe) the ball in the spots he likes. Figures.
Bynum and Gasol should have shot 20 times each last night. Miami’s bigs are their weakness. Get Bosh and Haslem in foul trouble and they have nothing inside. Instead you get Kobe trying to prove he’s still as good as LeBron. He isn’t and that’s why they lost.
Yeah
the Laker’s bench is embarrassingly thin. Mike Brown moved Metta (groan) to the bench to provide some second unit scoring. Unfortunately it has not panned out.
Why is Marquis Teague ranked so low in mock drafts?
To me he’s the best PG in this draft and generally a safe pick if you’re looking for starting material at that position. Am I over valuing the guy or am I missing something?
next year is above my pay grade.
don’t really watch enough college ball to get into all the possibilities.
So I leave all of the what-ifs and how about this to others.
Me?
I just call what I see.
I see a few problems in the here and now that I can only hope are the result of the lockout and other unplanned issues, such as injuries.
We must be able to produce some fun to watch basketball sooner or later. The team should gel with each other and the team should become whole soon.
I can’t see THIS team as turning off the coach. I just do NOT see that type of personality on this team.
THIS team isn’t made up of the punk player OR the overly gifted, “I’m TO good to be here” player.
I understand we might have players just not skilled…but not the turn off the coach player.
Dense, maybe.
Brat, don’t think so.
I see them in huddles looking at each other and talking to each other. I see this as a good sign.
Let’s hope we see a full bench soon and the coach can sub as planned and the players feel they CAN win.
Right now I feel as if THEY feel like they are treading water…just one bad turn of event after another.
I feel good.





























