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Game-Day Thread: Toronto Raptors vs. Washington Wizards

Toronto Raptors at Washington Wizards, Jan 10, 2012 7:00 PM EST





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Toronto Raptors vs Washington Wizards
January 10, 2012
TSN - 7:00 PM EST

We're kicking this game-day thread off early today.

My piece on Bargs this morning was a bit of a one-topic only style version of our usual "Tip-In" post-game report, and I omitted to preview tonight's match.

So this game-day thread will be doubling as both as the Toronto Raptors are in Washington to take on the Wizards tonight. (And for the Wizards' side of the story regarding tonight's match, check out SB Nation's "Bullets Forever".)

The poor Wizards.

An 0 an 8 start to the season, a coach on the hot seat, and now even John Wall is losing his luster.

(And us Raptors' fans think we've got it tough.)

Things are not very pretty in DC, but that doesn't mean tonight's game should be a walk in the park. The team may not have elite talent, but guys like Nick Young have burned the Dinos before, and the Raptors' are coming off an energy-sapping win last night against Minnesota.

So to ensure the W, here are our three keys:

1) More Bargnani: After writing a fairly glowing review of his recent play this morning, I'm hoping Andrea backs me up tonight with another good game. To put it simply, he needs to. DeMar is still struggling, Leandro Barbosa is up and down, Jerryd Bayless is still hurt and...well...we're not even going to mention Rasual Butler or James Johnson. There's not a lot of offence on this team so Bargs needs to take control tonight and find a way to get the job done despite potential fatigue.

2) Attack the boards: Again, the club is likely tired after last night's match but here's hoping that they've got some gas left in the tank tonight. Especially for rebounding reasons. The Wizards are allowing a league-worst 48 rebounds per game from opponents so even if Toronto's legs aren't into their jump shots, they should be able to get some easy second-chance points, provided they can get on the offensive glass.

3) Defence, defence, defence: I'm not expecting a pretty game tonight. Between Toronto's plodding pace (second slowest in the league) and both teams' offensive woes (the Wizards are averaging a shade under 85 points a game, and shooting just under 40 per cent as a team) this one could be a bit of a molasses-encrusted brick-fest. So to get back to .500, the Raps are going to need to dig in again on D and get the win the dirty way.

GO RAPS!

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my old game blogging friends in New Orleans aren't having such a fun year as well.

looking forward to tonight….

MIGHT be a kittle late as I want to get a little hot tub in under the palm tree tonight.

(just a little dig at my northern buddies)

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 5:54 PM EST reply actions  

Hope you caught our post

Gray will be back in about two weeks or so

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

oh ya!

very, very happy guy down here in Florida!

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

DeRozan Factor

I agree on every single point, especially the Bargs point. If Bargs continues his nice performance, he will be the most improved player in our books, not necessarily for the rest of the NBA.

However, if I had to add one more, I would put DeRozan as a huge factor. DD has been in a slump, and he needs to get it going. Hopefully a game in Washington can change that. As a young player, his confidence is probably gone way down, and he needs a game to fix that. If DD can put up over 15 a game with some decent shooting from the floor, then that will help us a LOT in the long term of play. I just hope he doesn’t rely on his 3pt shooting too much and turn into “one of those guys.” I really enjoy his aggressive play, and it helps compliment the team very well.

Go Raps!

by keepit4real on Jan 10, 2012 5:58 PM EST reply actions  

I'm most interested to see how Amir plays on the back of yesterday's game.

Yesterday’s performance was probably the best we have ever seen him play and I would speculate is the best single game performance he has ever had. It will be fascinating to see how he responds and we can draw lots of different conclusions on whether he is a legfit centre in this league or destined to forever be inconsistent sadly like much of our young talent.

Formerly known as timboslice85

by Rebrand_the_Raps on Jan 10, 2012 6:07 PM EST reply actions  

inconsistent?

I think Amir is anything but that. He’s not going to be a big scorer but he will always give you good D and effort.

That said, Amir is also not a legit C. He simply will never have the size or strength to get to that point.

by Not so Friendly Stranger on Jan 10, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Let me second that

Inconsistent? Amir has been one of the most productive players for the Raptors both this season and last.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 10, 2012 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Even though the Johnson/Butler offence has been terrible, I still like what JJ brings to the table every night. When Kleiza comes back I hope that the Johnson/Kleiza combo at the sf will help the offence and that Butler will be picking slivers.

by Al Bundy is my hero on Jan 10, 2012 6:35 PM EST reply actions  

Teams looking to break out of slumps loved the raps last year – hopefully they won’t be helping them out with that tonight

by axl t on Jan 10, 2012 6:38 PM EST reply actions  

But the biggest question tonight, by far:

Does anyone have any ideas for games?

I’ve got one — you’re a guy who looks like a cookie with a bite taken out of it. You’re running around a maze picking up dots being chased by ghosts. What do y’all think?

by Aaron Craig on Jan 10, 2012 6:58 PM EST reply actions  

I'll eat a Big Dot

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

And so, the hunted becomes the hunter

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

You could have some fruit that pops up for bonus points!

by axl t on Jan 10, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

the player on the wiz

who scares me the most is McGee. That guy can be scary good… but inconsistent. If his heads on straight he’s a monster, when its not he can leave alot of easy opportunities for the opposition

by Not so Friendly Stranger on Jan 10, 2012 7:05 PM EST reply actions  

He's killed us in the past

so your worries are justified

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Urg

This already FEELS ugly

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 7:13 PM EST reply actions  

Block Party

DD blocked twice already…

by keepit4real on Jan 10, 2012 7:16 PM EST reply actions  

DeMar's game

is so passive right now. Gift of athleticism, only uses it when nobody’s around…

Reminds me of that singing frog from the old Warner Bros cartoons

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 7:17 PM EST reply actions  

I was optimistic that we’d see a different DeRozan in his third year with the addition of the 3-point range. My optimism is fading…

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 10, 2012 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

On what planet does this make sense?

A. Handing a starting spot and minutes to Rasual Butler, and

B. Continuing to allow him to shoot from anywhere on the floor, including beyond the arc (what is he? 8-36 from 3-point range so far this season?)

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 10, 2012 7:17 PM EST reply actions  

Please don’t reply with anything referencing his “veteran leadership”… unless you feel he’s teaching the young guys how to chuck and miss ;)

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 10, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow

i hadn’t looked at his actual numbers until now. they are brutal

by Scott Campsall on Jan 10, 2012 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

No doubt. I actually didn’t realize his numbers were THAT bad either.

Twenty-four percent from the field? WTF?! And he gets almost 20 mpg!

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 10, 2012 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Not like his career numbers are anything to write about

36% ain’t exactly sharp.

I think he came in out of shape, to be honest.

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably didn’t expect anyone to actually sign him

by Scott Campsall on Jan 10, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

Ain’t that the truth

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s actually shown some nice help side defense, but still, don’t get it either

by axl t on Jan 10, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

McGee is Intimidating

All the Raptors players are so scared of this man lol

by keepit4real on Jan 10, 2012 7:20 PM EST reply actions  

Bargnani covering McGee

and the wiz have all their points in the paint already.

We saw this last year. I feel silly saying it but the Raps need Amir maning the middle.

by Not so Friendly Stranger on Jan 10, 2012 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

i know I shouldn't hate on anybody...BUT

I am glad to see Noah hurting with the Bulls this year.

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 7:23 PM EST reply actions  

I hate to say this...

But man, bargnani really dictates how this team’s pacing will go.

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 7:25 PM EST reply actions  

finally

derozan took it strong

Side note: Nick Young doesn’t like to pass

by Not so Friendly Stranger on Jan 10, 2012 7:25 PM EST reply actions  

He's playing too much from the Vince Carter Book of Plays vol. 2

Need a lot more from vol. 1

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Urg

What’s the big deal about John Wall?

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 7:27 PM EST reply actions  

It's bad all around

Raptors letting them into the paint like the have an embassy there

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate to say it but, I'm interested to see how Kleiza does this year

losing that weight is interesting to me.

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 7:30 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed

can’t possibly make them any worse at small forward

by Scott Campsall on Jan 10, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

IMO...

there might be a good side to Gray’s heart issue…
he has been praticing with the team and will feel a ton more aware of schemes when he does come back…

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 7:31 PM EST reply actions  

Need him bad

Gotta get someone in there for all these goddamn back to backs.

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

well especially when

if he is not available…you never replaced his position so you are playing short.

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Somebody tell the Raptors

To get to the line… And rebound for chrissakes

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 7:33 PM EST reply actions  

SHould be up way more

considering how bad we’re shooting. Easier to get offensive rebounds when you can’t hit the broad side of a barn

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

He's too easy to bait

The Raptors just need to be smarter

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Raptors need someone with high IQ

I miss Antonio Davis and Oak at times like these

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 7:41 PM EST reply actions  

well...

isn’t that supposed to be your point leading???

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Smart People

are hard to come by :p

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

BTW...

that is why I think the Bulls STILL are not a champion team
Rose is as dumb a bag o rocks as you can get.
terrible floor leader

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too

I’m not sold on Rose as a point guard. But I’m in the minority

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re not sold on the league MVP? Really?

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 10, 2012 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

but your right

if not that position, some vet on the floor should be commanding the floor

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Between Barbosa and DeRozan

we have two SGs who can’t make a basket, who drive out of control and don’t get to the line.

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 7:43 PM EST reply actions  

Hmmmm

Bargnani looks like he’s pissed off enough to do something

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 7:46 PM EST reply actions  

No matter what

I still love Jose

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

I was just about to post he’s luck Barbossa is short or it would have hit him in the shins

by Not so Friendly Stranger on Jan 10, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

If this is the Raptors

on the first night of a back to back. Tomorrow is going to be rough

by Scott Campsall on Jan 10, 2012 7:50 PM EST reply actions  

Don't remind me

I’m GOING to that game

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

On the brightside

there is always a chance Demarcus Cousins will do something crazy

by Scott Campsall on Jan 10, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Unless he eats our SF lineup

It won’t be crazy enough

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

and this is why

40+ min for players last night was a mistake.

by Not so Friendly Stranger on Jan 10, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

take from a tennis player...

they should be able to do this and still not dog it.

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

look

don’t care about sport styles…nothing is harder than a 4 hour, 5 set match every other day in a tournamnet over 2 weeks.

nothing.

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not saying

playing Tennis isn’t exhausting or tiring… its just different.

by Not so Friendly Stranger on Jan 10, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Teams are actually undefeated in the 3rd night of the back-to-back-to-backs (oddly enough). It’s the 2nd game that gives everyone trouble.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 10, 2012 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

@#$@#$@# DeRozan

PASS IT

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 7:53 PM EST reply actions  

Goddammit. Am I ACTUALLY pining for Jamario Moon???

I mean I HATED Jamario!!!

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 7:55 PM EST reply actions  

don't hurt yourself

breath.
step outside and take a breath.
And kick the dog on the way in.

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Demar DeRozan = WEAK SAUCE!!

It’s a crime for some one with so much “athleticism”

by MAS11 on Jan 10, 2012 7:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Derozan needs to remember

that he can dunk.

FUCKING DUNK IT ON BLATCHE. ITS BLATCHE!

by Not so Friendly Stranger on Jan 10, 2012 7:55 PM EST reply actions  

hmm demar lol

all I want in the new year is for demar to play like last year lol he does not need to improve! hahahaha

by demarD on Jan 10, 2012 7:56 PM EST reply actions  

just hope derozan

illness doesn’t spread to everybody

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 7:58 PM EST reply actions  

time to force it inside

stop the outside jumpers

get to the line….

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 7:59 PM EST reply actions  

What happened to the Defense?

Just askin’

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:00 PM EST reply actions  

Good job Bargs

That’s what you need to do against the Rookie. Keep going

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:00 PM EST reply actions  

I was just gonna say

I liked how he started, but then turned it into a fade away jumper. Great shot when you hit it, terrible decision when you miss

by Not so Friendly Stranger on Jan 10, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

my GOD!

open lane to the basket!!!???

nobody on the floor????

PLEASE come back gray…JUST so we can get your fouls!

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 8:02 PM EST reply actions  

I think I'm going to have to crack open the Disaronno

if I’m going to continue watching this

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:02 PM EST reply actions  

wow

3 wizards on the fast break…. 0 Raps?

by Not so Friendly Stranger on Jan 10, 2012 8:03 PM EST reply actions  

Does anyone want to argue that what we’ve seen in the first half is not the result of playing guys far too many minutes last night?

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 10, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Better win 1 of 2

than 0 of 2

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

38 of 46 points in the paint

Ladies and gentlemen, the ghost of Jay Triano has accompanied the Raptors on their trip to Washington.

Anyone want to guess which end of the floor Bargnani is conserving energy on after playing far too many minutes last night? (hint: he’s 6-for-11 on offence)

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 10, 2012 8:04 PM EST reply actions  

Break open the alcohol

I’m going to drink until this game goes from a 3 to a 7

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I have nothing but good stuff

Too old to be drinking the cheap stuff. Just cause the Raptors suck doesn’t mean I’m ruining my taste

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

its easier to drink well at lower cost with wine.

very different with scotch, my true love.
I have three favs….all based upon my wallet

TOP Lagavulin.
2nd Cuririositas
3rd Laphoaig 10 yr

All sweet and smokey single malts….

Hope you get a chance someday to enjoy

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow. Sounds great!
Alcohol is much more expensive in Canada. Taxed to hell

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

well the Lagavulin is soooo good

once, my wife stood naked in the bedroom door and kind of was trying to say something…

I just looked at her…then the scotch…
then back at her

then the scotch..
then bach…

great!
She gave up!!!!!

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha

Lucky man. Those are two great things to decide between.

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I think McGee

gets credit for two of those buckets though lol

by Not so Friendly Stranger on Jan 10, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

hmmm

I dont think anyone is playing defense and its not just bargani

by demarD on Jan 10, 2012 8:05 PM EST reply actions  

Just not playing physical tonight

there is NO WAY the drives to the baskety should be hapning!

I would screem for somebody to take out somebody!

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 8:05 PM EST reply actions  

worst part

washington looks real bad. So much one on one ball. Their 2nd unit doesn’t defend. Yet the Raps are getting embarassed.

by Not so Friendly Stranger on Jan 10, 2012 8:06 PM EST reply actions  

Honestly, I have very little problem with the Raptors mailing this one in against the 0-8 Wizards. The thought of this team hovering around .500, possibly making the playoffs, and failing to add another high lottery pick to the current core scares me. Instead of a rebuild, you get stuck on the treadmill of mediocrity for the foreseeable future.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 10, 2012 8:07 PM EST reply actions  

see...not me

not really bright when it comes to all the NBA rules, but I believe teams can build besides the draft.
Really smart trades can net you the same.

I just can’t handle pros not playing to win with every step on the floor…unless they want to take less in pay.

I mean…you just have to work to learn, sharpen your game and try to win…

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

its not a matter of

the players not trying to win. You want that.. you want your guys competing. Its the organization recognizing when those players are good enough to keep a team competetive at the highest levels long term.

So you don’t drive your players for 40+ minutes when its a game that isn’t going to make a difference. You look to play young guys. etc.

If the Raps make or just come close to the playoffs they set themselve back 2 years. UNLESS Jonas ends up becoming a superstar C… which I think is a bit of a longshot.

by Not so Friendly Stranger on Jan 10, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

BUT against THIS team???

No…its mailing it in.
This game is a MUST win on my schedule.
just sayin

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

look...any game is a possible loss

but you need to say when its over we played our best.
when you can’t look at yourselves and say that…you get pissed

and casey is pissed

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not convinced they're mailing it in....

This might just be who they are. Which is fine by me from a draft pick perspective.

by MAS11 on Jan 10, 2012 8:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

True enough. They look like world beaters against the T-Wolves and Cavs, but then roll over and provide no resistance to the winless Wizards.

I’m still of the opinion that this team needs to add 2-3 star players. Valanciunas, a high lottery pick like Kidd-Gilchrist, and a big free agent signing/trade (for the backcourt) needs to happen going into 2012-13.

This team is not going to suddenly morph into the next OKC with the current roster.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 10, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's some purely subjective trivia...

Can you name an NBA starter averaging at least 19 minutes per game who is WORSE than Rasual Butler?

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 10, 2012 8:22 PM EST reply actions  

Is It a trick question

As in there is NO player playing at least 19 mins and shooting worse than Butler?

by MAS11 on Jan 10, 2012 8:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I think you just answered your own question, MAS11.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 10, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm convinced...

… Butler has pictures of Caey in a compromising position.

by MAS11 on Jan 10, 2012 8:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Cheers

Like I said. Drink until the game becomes a “7”

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugly

Didn’t watch the first half, but gathering from the comments that it was as ugly as the first 2:30 of the third quarter. Blech*50.

Casey must feel very strongly that JJ’s development would be hindered by having him start. Only way to explain the presence of that giant vacuum with the #9 on his back.

by Aaron Craig on Jan 10, 2012 8:27 PM EST reply actions  

It's because

they have eyes

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

i know...but me?

i guess i am so simple minded its the only way I really know how to play basketball..
big men inside…feed em
hot shooter outside…

if the big cant get it…pass out to the shooter…keep it simple

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

It works.

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

The Streak

I kind of miss the drama that the Streak provided a few times a season.

by Aaron Craig on Jan 10, 2012 8:29 PM EST reply actions  

Oh god....

Don’t remind me… Well, not surprisingly, the Raptors were just the worst at 3 pointers last year.

Not that you can tell much difference this year :p

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

DeRozan may want to consider coming out early and playing a 24 minutes of basketball by himself before tip off… Looks like he may have finally woken up for the second half.

by MAS11 on Jan 10, 2012 8:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Seems to be a habit with him

I don’t care how hot he becomes. It doesn’t matter if you can’t hit the broadside of a barn for one half

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup

This is like the 4th or 5th game of the season that he’s been a liability in the first half.

by MAS11 on Jan 10, 2012 8:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Ah Jvale

Showing why he’s considered to have the lowest basketball IQ in NBA history.

by Aaron Craig on Jan 10, 2012 8:35 PM EST reply actions  

Hahahahahahaa

Don’t make me spill my alcohol

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Dear DeMar DeRozan

Learn to entry pass it to Bargnani

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:35 PM EST reply actions  

Even when he scores, he f#$*(s it up

Nice take by Rasaul Electrolux, but he really should have given the ball back to Derozan to reward him for the good defensive play.

by Aaron Craig on Jan 10, 2012 8:36 PM EST reply actions  

WTF

Raptors get called for ticky tack fouls on one end. pass it to Amir to SLAM it.

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:38 PM EST reply actions  

The Bavetta effect

He’s such a home crowd ref

by axl t on Jan 10, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahahaha

You know it’s bad when Jack Armstrong calls you out

I’m talking to you, Blatche

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:38 PM EST reply actions  

Jack

does not like Blatche’s game… at all

by Scott Campsall on Jan 10, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Raps are gonna win this game.

This Wiz team is beyond terrible. Of course, a few more DD airballs and I might need to revise that prediction.

by Aaron Craig on Jan 10, 2012 8:39 PM EST reply actions  

jjohnson right

about not getting the foul call under the basket…he was hammered

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 8:39 PM EST reply actions  

Nice to see the Quad City DJs still enjoying some arena airplay. C’mon Ride the Train, y’all!

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 10, 2012 8:39 PM EST reply actions  

How sad is it

That our starters, playing exhausted, are better than our bench?

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:40 PM EST reply actions  

Is Jvale the only player in NBA history who’s mother is a better basketball player?

by Ustation on Jan 10, 2012 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

At least her brother didn’t have to go down as being a worse player than his sister.. though… maybe??

by Ustation on Jan 10, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Solid maybe

Parker might get a pass based on the total body of work overseas and here in Toronto.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 10, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Ouch

Come on, AP was good.
There’s a LOT of NBA players that are worse than Candace…

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Every ONE of the Starters looks Gassed

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:44 PM EST reply actions  

i like that foul!

hard…do NOT let them dunk!!!

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 8:45 PM EST reply actions  

“That’s a ridiculous comment He’s going to stop a 3-on-1 at the end of long stretch of back and forth play without a timeout?”

Amir Johnson and Butler just hustled back.

Foul them when you are stuck

by Not so Friendly Stranger on Jan 10, 2012 8:46 PM EST reply actions  

look thwere is a whole qtr to go

a good time for the bench to show they can play…

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 8:46 PM EST reply actions  

Oh Barbossa

Stop yelling at your teammates. You’re the one who dribbled out of control

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:46 PM EST reply actions  

…nights like this.. I’m glad there’s a hockey game on. ahhhh

by Ustation on Jan 10, 2012 8:47 PM EST reply actions  

I'd love to watch something else

But I’ve gotta recap this turd

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

It'll make it easier, trust me

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s why I stopped writing regular blogs!! :) I’m going to take a few years off. LoL.

by Ustation on Jan 10, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Lucky bastard

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Get your act together

Barbosa, Butler, Johnson, and DeRozan.

by keepit4real on Jan 10, 2012 8:49 PM EST reply actions  

Barbosa

should NOT have an automatic green light

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:51 PM EST reply actions  

I will NOT watch the bench shoot jumpoers!

no.
Helll No!

If that is their plan….I got better things to do….like pick link from the carpet

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 8:52 PM EST reply actions  

Go 4 it

you deserve better bud

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

lick the carpet?? Good on ya bud.

by Ustation on Jan 10, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

pick lint...sorry

my booze is better n your booze

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

however..i have licked the carpet...

spilling good booze makes men do bad things

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

carpet muncher.. She better make a good dinner before I do that. ;)

by Ustation on Jan 10, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

This is awful

I never, in a million years, ever thought I’d long for Kleiza to come back.

by Mistafitz on Jan 10, 2012 8:53 PM EST reply actions  

Time to jump on that bandwagon

That’s 3 tonight.

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Why does Barbosa think he's Kobe Bryant?

When

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:53 PM EST reply actions  

He's the Brazillian Kobe Bryant!

He’s been playing like he’s still pissed the lockout ended and he had to come back up here.

by Mistafitz on Jan 10, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Well

We can ship him back… With a couple boxes of bananas and a tarantula.

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

he needs to be off the floor

player Johnson, Carter, Ed, Forbes +1 other not named Barbossa for the rest of the game

and let Ed, Forbes and Johnsons get all the opportunities. Time to let others play the game

by Not so Friendly Stranger on Jan 10, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

ok.. thats it.. heading over to the Leaf channel. Sorry Kin.. love to keep you company but.. .. This is awful.. even for me…

by Ustation on Jan 10, 2012 8:54 PM EST reply actions  

Go for it bud

Everyone abandon ship.

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

..yeah but Leaf nation are dumber than a bag of rocks..

by Ustation on Jan 10, 2012 8:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Blatche is just terrible.

What a waste of talent. He looks like he would get lost if you left him in the middle of a gym. Pathetic.

by MAS11 on Jan 10, 2012 8:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

he passes about as much as if he was by himself in the middle of the gym.

by Ustation on Jan 10, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I have no idea why Washington hasn’t traded him. He’s toxic for that young team.

by Mistafitz on Jan 10, 2012 8:57 PM EST up reply actions  

same reason he’s staying in Washington…

by Ustation on Jan 10, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

True enough, but I have to think a veteran team like Boston would take a shot at him. I don’t see him pulling the same act with a Kevin Garnett to smack him around.

by Mistafitz on Jan 10, 2012 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

What I Learned So Far...

- Anthony Carter can’t dribble for a PG
- Barbosa thinks he is Kobe
- Butler likes to doing anything but score
- JJ can’t shoot
- DeMar only likes the second half of games
- Jose is predictable at most times, but still reliable and solid
- Bargs is gasping for air trying to keep this team competitive

by keepit4real on Jan 10, 2012 8:57 PM EST reply actions  

well that

and we do not have a floor leader

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

trying to keep this team competitive? At one end of the floor he was.

by Not so Friendly Stranger on Jan 10, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

the two usual suspects.

by Shalax23 on Jan 10, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

hey Shalax23

you gonna mention Bargnani’s rebounding post game?

by Not so Friendly Stranger on Jan 10, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Anthony Carter

2 blocks??? Wow

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 10, 2012 8:57 PM EST reply actions  

don't do a recap....

just put on a scene from dumber and dumber

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 8:57 PM EST reply actions  

These losses really hurt.

The Raps will be all over ESPN Sports Centre as the winless Wiz get their first win. Further cementing the perception south of the boarder that the Raps are a joke.

by MAS11 on Jan 10, 2012 9:02 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

nah

his body is so thin it looks big. Like reverse Dwight Howard syndrome

by Not so Friendly Stranger on Jan 10, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

"it's like an orange on a toothpick"

Who can name the movie that line is from?

by MAS11 on Jan 10, 2012 9:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

did casey lose the team tonight?

I mean, we all know what we saw and what was wrong.
Surely he did and spoke to them at time outs.
So…then what happened?
They didn’t listen?

by ppellico on Jan 10, 2012 9:04 PM EST reply actions  

If Casey lost the team

The team needs to go and not the other way arround…

by MAS11 on Jan 10, 2012 9:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

the Raps

need to give Ed some touchs. 1 FGA so far this game. Let him post up

by Not so Friendly Stranger on Jan 10, 2012 9:07 PM EST reply actions  

good luck getting the ball out of Barbosa’s hands

by Mistafitz on Jan 10, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

awesome

he got his 2nd shot with 6 sec left in the game

by Not so Friendly Stranger on Jan 10, 2012 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

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