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A Nash-onal Observation

With the last few days having been a strange mix of Nash bashing and lamenting for not playing for Team Canada at the FIBA Americas Championship, Can Ball Ray puts his two cents in on the whole debate.  Find out what he thought right here ...

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If you’ve been keeping up with the basketball world that is Canadian, or if you’ve been reading the recent Canadian Content entries the last few days, you should already be aware that there seems to be some dust kicking with regards to Steve Nash.  

The media in this country have been on what can only be described as a witch hunt and with the degrees varying from mildly annoyed at Nash’s decision not to participate in the National Program this summer to downright Spanish Inquisition-esque verbal assaults for deciding against it.  I haven’t really seen a big deal made about something like this for basketball in this country since, well, ever and it seems to have got people divided on some very rigid lines. 

Is Nash a sellout and traitor for not playing on this summer’s edition of the Senior Men’s National Team?  Or is he greedy and selfish bastard for thinking of himself, his family and the remaining years of his career first?  Or is he a saint who has devoted over a decade of service to a National Program that he has retired from after propelling it to new heights with his involvement? 

The many questions that have lingered in the air for the last few days have been very direct and all fingers have been pointing in one direction or another but they have all inevitably pointed to the same person:  Mr. Nash. 

I know that Steve is THE elite level basketball player in Canada at this point in time.  And I also know that he plays a position that would have greatly benefitted from his appearance.  But in spite of all of this, can we fault a man for deciding not to play for the National Team?  Can we really decide that this man is the reason for the lack of success that the National Program had this summer?

In my opinion, I don’t think he can be.  I mean really, how can he?  It doesn’t make sense and it’s not fair. 

People seem to forget that Nash is only human despite the superhuman effort he puts into his game that most people only get to see on TV.  Yes he’s done some things that would exceed what would seem humanly possible but it doesn’t mean that he is anymore of a person than you or I.  To put the blame on a single person for this summer’s performance of the Senior Men’s team is ridiculous. 

Now, I’ve always maintained a few particular things whenever anyone brought up Steve Nash to me in conversations about the National Team:  First that he has explicitly said he was not going to participate and two, whether he has the ability to or not to lift the team from three wins to more, he has the right to refuse to play.  These two things should be abundantly clear to everyone involved in any discussion regarding this. 

Does it suck that Nash didn’t play, of course.  It also sucks that Tristan Thompson, Matt Bonner, Myck Kabongo, Kris Joseph, Rob Sacre, Andrew Nicholson and a whole slew of other players didn’t either.  But it seems convenient that these aforementioned players have excusable excuses for those who’ve been on Nash’s case.  It’s excusable Kabongo, Joseph, Sacre, Nicholson and the other "elite" players are in school and have school commitments.  It is excusable that Thompson decided to go back to school and work on his degree rather than play for the SMNT.  It’s even excusable that Bonner is fighting government red tape to get his Canadian citizenship.  For the most part, these are all reasonable explanations and very good ones at that so these particular players are left out of the blame game here.  All would have strengthened the SMNT across the board undoubtedly.  But after these players have accounted for who do we have left:  Mr. Nash.

I understand the hurt that many basketball fans, like me, had when we had all found out that London in 2012 was not calling.  That loss to Panama was a tough one to take especially since the SMNT looked really good to make that fifth place spot and punch a ticket to the Olympic Qualifying Tournament next summer.  All those strides that Canada Basketball had made in the last few years seemed to have been for naught and it was another wasted attempt to get back into the upper echelon of the global basketball scene.  Many players on the team were playing hurt and eventually the grind of the tournament took its toll.  Injuries mounted and effectiveness took a hit.  Yet, the blame seems to be squarely placed on Nash regardless. 

People think that I’ve been giving Nash a free pass due to his past years playing for the National Program and if they do than so be it.  I’m not going to apologize for it because he’s put time in and really doesn’t owe me, the program or anyone else any further commitment to play, period.  I’m of the ilk that believes that your word is your bond and in this case, he said he wasn’t going to play.  I’m fine with that.  I’m fine that the Senior Men, those who did play, gave a valiant effort with against a stacked deck of hardwood cards and hung close with some of the better teams in the Americas with what some observers (some of whom may have written or voiced these angry pieces or statements) was nothing more than a team of role players.  I’m okay with the fact that people seem to be missing more important issues with the team, the National Program, the non-participation of players and another stacked deck against the sport I'm passionate about in a country that only seems to have media conveniently cover things when they are really good or really bad.  I may not like it but I can accept all of it.

What I refuse to accept is a ridiculous amount of Nash bashing for his decision to not play. 

Just because a female is pregnant doesn’t mean that she has to keep her baby.  She has options to relieve herself of that child such as adoption or abortion (sorry pro lifers).    This may seem like an extreme analogy but is it really?  You would think that Nash not playing for Canada was akin to him having aborted any chance of the team going to the Olympics, which is ludicrous.   

Steve made his choice and stuck by it.  He had cited his reasons.  He may have done other things in time that could have been with the National Team but that was his choice.  All of you who have been riding him for it need to get off the haterade and leave it alone. 

All this energy should be focused on the next move to get this National Program back on track over the next year instead of lamenting why a 37 year old point guard decided it was more important to spend time with his young children, do charity work, enjoy a little of his soccer investment and grow his business and recover and rest his body for his employment time whenever that may be over this last summer.  People want to be left alone when the are entitled to some time off, why should Nash be treated any differently Steve Nash.   

Poll
Is Canada's not qualifying as a top five finisher at the FIBA Americas Championship a direct result of Steve Nash's non participation?
Yes - he should have played
63 votes
No - even with Nash, the same result was likely
43 votes
Not sure - can't really tell with so many factors involved
55 votes

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When will this energy get directed into something useful?

When are all those people who have been hyperventilating about Nash’s non-participation going to do something themselves to better the state of basketball in this country?

When is Steve Buffery, for example, going to start writing about youth development, improving Basketball Canada’s organization, covering Canada’s overseas pros, giving props to guys like Ray Rana who are training the next generation or otherwise promoting and helping the cause of Basketball in this country? The guy has a big megaphone, why not do something useful with it?

If there is a guy who works harder in Canada than you do Ray to promote the activities of grassroots ballers, the national team and Canadian pros, well I don’t know who it is. Keep up the great work, but lay off the abortion metaphors (unless you are describing one of Tony Gallagher’s columns).

by DW19 on Sep 13, 2011 10:05 AM EDT reply actions  

thanks

I know but the metaphor was appropriate here. The angry mob contingent are saying Nash did as much to the Olympic dream this summer.

Ray Bala
CANadian BasketBALL Report
on www.raptorhq.com

by rbala on Sep 13, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good on you for all your hard work covering Candian basketball Ray. However: Worst. Analogy. Ever. I don’t even know where to begin on how ridiculous that was…

by MAS11 on Sep 13, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously this is awful

I don’t know where to begin….

You really are just an apologist for the guy and frankly making me disrespect Nash even more.

by Mojo J on Sep 14, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you have a point or are you just being an ass for the sake of it?

by McGateway on Sep 19, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Nash may be a lightening rod for the overall apathy for Canada Basketball from some of our best talent. There’s a fundamental problem with getting our top players to make long-term commitments to the program. Which is a shame, as we would probably be right up there with the top teir in the Americas if they all played. I don’t necessarily fault Nash as he has already paid his dues. However, its hard not to lament the fact that he could be a great leader for this program and great for recruiting others to play if he played…. It’s too bad I guess…

by MAS11 on Sep 13, 2011 10:38 AM EDT reply actions  

I can see that ...

but the question has to beg “why is he trying to involve himself?” That should be one of the many backend questions about Nash’s involvement with the program. He would have been an excellent recruiter but in the end would that have been enough to get over the hump?

Ray Bala
CANadian BasketBALL Report
on www.raptorhq.com
Twitter: @CanBallRay

by rbala on Sep 13, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think adding Nash alone to the team that was in Argentina would have at the very least gotten them into next year’s Olympic Qualifying tournament. The team’s problem was a labourious offense, which Nahs pretty much solves by himself, especially considering the level of competition.

Did you meant “why is he NOT trying to involve himself”? I’ve often wondered this. I beleive I remember hearing about a rift between Nash and Canada basketball going back to the Triano termination. Can you shed any light on this Ray? Is this simply a case of bad blood?

by MAS11 on Sep 13, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

That is right ...

My bad on that. There are always rumours and the like floating around and the more persistent one is that, as you may know already, is that Triano’s release is the cause of the bad blood. I’m sure that there are personnel in the organization that have helped as well since the turnover in the program is not very high. It will always come down to that incident and it’s (mis)handling that seems to be the straw that broke the Nash’s back. Other than that, we can only speculate on the true why. Coincidentally, CB’s success rate had been a little rocky and true elite talent has also been a little suspect about participating in the national program since, or at least that’s how it looks right.

Ray Bala
CANadian BasketBALL Report
on www.raptorhq.com
Twitter: @CanBallRay

by rbala on Sep 13, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

How long ago was that? 7, 8 years...

The kid needs to let bygones be bygones and get over it.

He really has had a free pass for way too long. It is about time he his getting the flake he should have gotten in the past.

by Mojo J on Sep 14, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hard to let bygones be bygones when the same dufuses who fired Triano to cover their own asses are still running Canada Basketball.

by DW19 on Sep 15, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

No use crying over spilt milk

At some point when the shoulda, woulda, couldas surrounding the current Olympic qualifying cycle have died down Basketball Canada will be faced with pretty much a blank slate. Nash might have played in this tournament, but at 39 (World Champs quals) and 41 (next Olympic quals) we can pretty conclusively rule him out of any future participation as a player. There is currently no coach and the best players are youngsters. This is the perfect situation for a rebuild of the program.

What is Basketball Canada’s plan going forward?
 
Who is going to coach the team?

What is the organization going to do to keep prospects and developing players involved? How is the fundraising going?

Who is running the show? I can’t find anywhere on their website where it actually talks about who is in charge. Has a successor to Wayne Fleming been found?

What’s the deal with all the provincial bodies? Provincial bodies are one of the main impediments to Soccer Canada getting their act together. Is Basketball Canada suffering from similar organizational issues?

Maurizio G. has helped Canada organize some friendlies and done a little to help get Canadian pros hooked up with team in Europe. Is he still involved?

Is Basketball Canada going to do anything in co-operation with NBLC?

There are a lot of questions that need to be answered that are a lot more important than why Nash did or didn’t play in the FIBA Americas tourney. Ray, I am sure you will be keeping us informed on this kind of stuff. I wish you weren’t such a lone voice in the wilderness on this. (Buffery? Gallagher?)

by DW19 on Sep 13, 2011 11:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Good questions ...

There will have to be a serious “looking in the mirror” so to speak for the organization after the women finish their qualifiers later this month. There are some so fundamental disjuncts between what the CB can do, should do and is able to do with regards to some (in my opinion) glaring concerns moving forward. That fact that there are too many hands in the pot with regards to the game across the country with differing agendas is a big factor for sure. I would love to delve deeper into that some point but likely after the women take their shot in South America.

And as always, thanks for the kind words. It’s good to know that I’m not the only passionate fan of the game in Canada with some common sense and an active brainwave. I apprecaite the banter everyone.

Ray Bala
CANadian BasketBALL Report
on www.raptorhq.com
Twitter: @CanBallRay

by rbala on Sep 13, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Don't By TT's Excuse

I don’t know about the other players who went to school but for him at his age to use going to college in the summer, which it sounds like he did, is IMO a case of cross wired in his brains.

1. He only has a limited time in his life to make money playing basketball. He should have taken advantage of the opportunity to play for Canada this summer. It would only have improved his game.

2. He should IMO put “country ahead of class”. Does he not stand appropriately when he is in the presence of the Canadian National Anthem being played?. It is a great honor to represent your country in international competition in any sport. IMO he dissed Canada by not availing himself of the opportunity.

3. Classes can always wait. If he reaches his ceiling in the NBA he will make well over $50 million dollars in his career. Does he expect to spend it all during his career? Maybe getting into Canada’s Senior Men’s basketball program could lead to post playing opportunities in basketball. What does he think he is going to do with a diploma at this age?

If TT’s excuse for not participating in this summer’s games was because of taking classes IMO he was misguided or just made a bad decision.

Re: Nash – He has paid his dues and needs to save his body for his professional playing career at his age. He does have a contractual responsibility to the Suns and by association to the city of Phoenix to be in the best possible physical condition when the NBA begins training.

Look what happened to Kleiza. He was overplayed and his body was tired and weakened by all the games he played in without a serious resting period. This most likely lead to his injury. Should he not have played last summer for LTU?

Lets put it this way. If people think that Nash is getting crucified for not playing for Canada this summer when basketball is not even the major sport in Canada one can only imagine what would have happened to Kleiza, arguably LTU best basketball player at this time if he hadn’t played for the national team last summer in a country where basketball is considered one of the three main religions.

by Buddahfan on Sep 13, 2011 11:53 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm with you on TT ...

… but there is always something more to it of course. The rumour is that he was advised not to play for the team this time around but that is just a rumour. There is also a rumour that some of the people in his circle have been at odds with the national program at some level. Bottom line is, his excuse sounds weak, most of us know it and to be honest Thompson could have used the reported $18,000 he would have got this summer playing for the team since he’s still unemployed until the lockout ends.

And I agree with you on the overextension point with injuries. At Nash’s age, regardless of how well he takes care of himself, has to be weary of wear and tear moreso now. He makes his money playing the game and he needs to get that rest. People who don’t have anything at stake can come down on Nash pretty easily since it’s not their body or livlihood at risk and don’t realize that his body needs this break from the regular motions of basketball. Soccer, even though very physically demanding, doesn’t require the exact same motions and can really be just a cardio workout for him. Any real continuation of playing basketball without rest would be a liability at this point.

Ray Bala
CANadian BasketBALL Report
on www.raptorhq.com
Twitter: @CanBallRay

by rbala on Sep 13, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ray can you shed some light on the “rumour”? I heard something similar on the Fan 590. That some players have been “turned off” by Canada basketball officials for some reason or another. Further, it goes deeper than one or two players, apparently there’s something fundamentally wrong at CB…

by MAS11 on Sep 13, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

There just seems to be this lingering issue between CB and some players going back to Rick Fox, Jamal Maglore and continuing today with TT…

by MAS11 on Sep 13, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

All I can say is ...

that there are are some people who have been turned off by members of CB in some form. Certain things have been said or done that have caused this it seems but you can never substantiate these claims. The only thing that I can gather myself from my dealings with people who have been in contact with CB is that things have been handled wrong in different situations.

Ray Bala
CANadian BasketBALL Report
on www.raptorhq.com
Twitter: @CanBallReport

by rbala on Sep 14, 2011 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I give TT more of a pass this time than Nash.

TT has $80M in front of him, Nash has $80M behind him.

by Mojo J on Sep 14, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Old Meme

Don’t play unless you get paid the big bucks.

So I guess according to your thinking basketball players shouldn’t work out away from team facilities including lifting weights, running etc.

You can can hurt just as badly working out not to say anything of these exhibition games.

So maybe you should tweet DeMar and Ed and tell them to lay off playing in summer exhibition games.

Just saying.

by Buddahfan on Sep 15, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Love It!

It’s great to finally see some passion by Canadians for their basketball team. This debate has put our national team under the spotlight. Its creating more awareness and a larger fan base.

I hope more than anything that this bashing places extra pressure on our current and future stars, to be more active with the SMNT or face the wroth of a host of rabid Canadian basketball fans!

by raptor rabid on Sep 13, 2011 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

agree

I do like that regular people are being forced to see the game now with the Nash Bash in effect. I’m hoping that our elite players see that there is more to the game than making the dollars in the US and that every player counts at this level – but I’ll never execute a guy for deciding not to play.

Ray Bala
CANadian BasketBALL Report
on www.raptorhq.com
Twitter: @CanBallRay

by rbala on Sep 13, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am sure it behooves you and what you are trying to build here to play nice and not rip a guy like Nash even when he deserves it. Now, me the anonymous troll, can call a spade a spade and tell the world that Nash is dead to me.

Bring on Wiggy!!!!

by Mojo J on Sep 14, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I were Wiggins I would look at the treatment Nash is getting from a vocal minority of the public and ask myself “why bother?” Btw, Wiggins has dual citizenship, so Canada and Canadian fans might want to think about courting him to play for us because he could equally try his luck with the States and if he doesn’t make their team then he can spend his summers drinking margaritas.

by DW19 on Sep 15, 2011 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wiggins has already played for a Canadian team albeit as a minor.

Is he allowed to switch once he has played for a country or does it only count if he has played for a country’s senior or under 21 team?

by raptor rabid on Sep 15, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hear that Canada Basketball has to sign a waiver of some type to allow him to play for another country. I seriously don’t see that happening at all but with CB having it’s problems of late, I don’t think we’ll see Wiggins in uniform anyway.

Ray Bala
CANadian BasketBALL Report
on www.raptorhq.com
Twitter: @CanBallReport

by rbala on Sep 15, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did Steve Nash steal your Girlfriend or something? Seriously, can you provide a reason for this vitriol?

by McGateway on Sep 19, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

My blame...
  1. Basketball Canada for decades of mismanagement. Find one “Sport” Canada that is not woefully mismanaged though.
  2. Hockey obsessive Canada – for not giving a rat’s ass about any other sport beside one the the rest of the world cares nothing about. We are awesome at hockey! Yeah!! Most of the wolrd has to put “ice” in front of the word to know what we are talking about.
  3. Nash – for being even more important than our Dirk, Ginobli, Parker and not showing up when it matters most
  4. Leo – for being a crappy coach
  5. Mark Cuban – for always being the biggest b!tch about NBA players playing in these tournies
  6. Rick “Hollywood” Fox – for starting this all and just for being so handsome
  7. George Bush – just because

Rant ended…

by Mojo J on Sep 14, 2011 11:25 PM EDT reply actions  

well ...

I can agree with everything there, maybe the Bush thing not so much ( I blame him for the current state of the world’s economics). Leo being a bad coach I don’t think he can say it’s entirely his fault. CB should have known his resume going in. He’s learned a thing or two in the last five years but he’s not the best coach at this level.

If CB can be run more like a corporation and less like a charity (which it is actually). If there was a more stern set of leaders who run the organization with a look of turning a “profit” so to speak then I think this mess could be avoided going forward.

Ray Bala
CANadian BasketBALL Report
on www.raptorhq.com
Twitter: @CanBallReport

by rbala on Sep 14, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

1. Own the Podium delivered good results at the Vancouver Olympics. When Canada has put resources behind sports (ie. hockey, winter olympics) the results can be good.

2. So the solution would be to become bad at hockey? I guess you mean we should broaden our horizons. If so, then I agree with you.

3. Agree to disagree on this.

4. Agree up to a point, but you have to blame the guys that hired him.

5-7. Funny stuff!

by DW19 on Sep 15, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I blame Rick Fox for ruining Eliza Dusko for me.

Ray Bala
CANadian BasketBALL Report
on www.raptorhq.com
Twitter: @CanBallReport

by rbala on Sep 15, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mark Cuban – for always being the biggest b!tch about NBA players playing in these tournies

You can also tweet Cuban and tell him what you think of him.

by Buddahfan on Sep 15, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

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