Raptors HQ Draft Prospect Preview #4 - Kawhi Leonard
Continuing their look at possible draft options for the Toronto Raptors, the HQ turn their attention to San Diego State product, Kawhi Leonard...
Looking at the latest update of NBADraft.net's mock draft, the Toronto Raptors are slated to be picking a new name.
Not Kemba Walker.
Not Jonas Valanciunas.
Not Enes Kanter.
And no, not Brandon Knight.
The name is none other than San Diego State forward Kawhi Leonard, one of this draft's highest risers on many teams' draft boards. Leonard was barely a name thrown around in draft talk a year ago, and now it would be stunning if he wasn't chosen in the top 10 of this upcoming draft.
How did this happen?
Well averaging a shade under 16 points and 11 rebounds in your final college season doesn't hurt in terms of getting attention.
Nor does helping to carry your squad into the Sweet 16, losing to the eventual NCAA Champs by only seven points.
Above both however, it's Leonard's interesting skill-set and honestly, his physical attributes, that have really distinguished him. At 6-7 with a ridiculous 7-3 wingspan, excellent hops and only about five per cent body fat, Leonard easily passes the NBA small forward "look test."
But can he actually play at an NBA level?
And even if so, what position does he play?
Those have been two of the biggest questions about Leonard and for some answers and further insight on the former Aztec, we turn to Edward Lewis, who covered Kawhi first-hand as the sports editor of the "Daily Aztec," San Diego State's Student Newspaper.
Here was his take on Mr. Leonard:
At San Diego State, his teammates nicknamed Kawhi, "The Human Avatar." He's a physical freak. His hands are double the size of mine - and while I don't exactly have Shaq's grip, I don't have tiny hands either. And his arm length / wingspan is wildly long - I heard it was actually the longest at the combine.
With those two attributes, he dominates the boards. Where most guys get fingertips on loose balls, he gets palms on them, because his hands are so big. Coach Steve Fisher said they were the biggest hands he's seen since Chris Webber. He also has such an instinct for rebounding. Most athletic guys, which is why most casual fans hate the NBA, see a shot go up and they just stand there and wait to see if it goes in or not. Kawhi always crashes the boards, whether the shot looks good or not, and he's always fighting for a rebound. Fisher said Kenneth Faried was probably the only rebounder better than Leonard in NCAA basketball.
The problem with Kawhi, though, is he's not a scorer. He got his points because he was in the Mountain West Conference. He rarely, and probably never, had a guy more athletic than him guarding him. So he could just go up at will over the guy. And even with that said, he never did it enough on a consistent basis. The Aztecs needed him to be that guy, and sometimes he tried, but he doesn't have that killer Kobe or Jordan instinct - and I doubt he ever will.
And finally, his biggest weakness is he has absolutely no J. I heard a bunch of propaganda that his new NBA shooting coach taught him a new motion and now he can't miss, but I've sat in Viejas Arena after practice and watched him take hundreds of jumpers against air and never miss. But in games, the shots just never fell. I'm assuming coaches will overlook that, thinking they can be the ones to teach him how to shoot, but he was really bad from 3-point land, which is a normal jumper in the NBA.
With all that said, though, this is a terrible draft class. He plays good defense, he's long and is the new prototypical 3 (think Shawn Marion or Gerald Wallace), so despite his shooting, he'll have a niche in the NBA.
Some terrific insight here and a big thanks to Edward, whose work can also be found at his site, "A Sports Writer's Website."
First of all, I think this is the most honest and realistic take on Leonard around; he's got solid potential, but you're not drafting the next Carmelo Anthony.
Not that anyone is comparing the two, but to Edward's point, this is not someone who's going to come in and light up the league offensively.
That being said, he's got a ton of very positive intangibles that the Raptors could use in bunches; his motor, size, length, rebounding skills, all would be a welcome addition to the Raps.
Now some may question if he's really as good of an athlete as was claimed to be the case as his pre-draft combine athletic tests were, well...disappointing to say the least. His max vertical was only 32 inches (hardly high-flyer material), he only bench pressed the 185 pound standard 3 times, and his agility score was worse than big men like Enes Kanter and Jeremy Tyler, and supposedly "unathletic" types like Kyle Singler.
However there's a big caveat to these scores in my opinion, and others as well, and that's that Leonard didn't participate in the earlier drills that day, and thus had next to no warm-up time prior to the tests.
He was also sitting in a freezing cold gym.
Beyond both though, a big part of me also simply says "who cares."
If you watched Leonard play the past two seasons you know that these test results don't do his game-play justice, and as per Edward's quotes from San Diego State coach, Steve Fisher, above, he's a terrific prospect.
You can see some of the reasons why in this Fox Sports compilation:
Is he the next Gerald Wallace, as some have speculated?
Maybe not right away, but if you look at Wallace's career, it took years for him to truly grow into his niche as "Crash," mostly during his latter years with Charlotte. At the very least Leonard I believe would be an impact player off the bench in his rookie season, providing hustle, energy and timely rebounding. I'm not expecting him to score much, in fact I could care less if he did, but on defense and rebounding ability alone, it's not out the question that by season's end, he's challenging James Johnson for minutes at the 3 (and maybe Linas Kleiza depending on Kleiza's recovery.)
And speaking of Johnson, and similar to Chris Singleton, would Leonard be a duplication at the 3?
I don't think so, mostly because of what Leonard provides on the glass and in terms of energy, but there are more similarities between these two than Singleton and Johnson. Johnson did measure out about an inch taller, and 30 pounds heavier than Leonard in his own pre-draft measurements, but Kawhi had an extra two inches on his wingspan and a better standing reach.
Both however posted similar scores in many areas, and neither put up great shooting numbers from long-range in college. (Kawhi shot under 30 per cent from the NCAA arc last season.)
But I'd take Leonard's upside over that of Johnson's any day.
To me, Leonard is the type of wing you need in today's NBA to field a winning team. He's probably your fourth or even fifth option offensively, but one of top two or three most valuable players because of the other things he brings to the table, and I'd be thrilled to see him in a Raptors' uniform next fall.
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all true... however - we need an offensive stud
You still need 3-pt shooting in today’s NBA.
PG – Calderon doesn’t shoot enough 3’s, and Bayless doesn’t shoot a great %
SG – Derozan can’t shoot 3’s.
SF (Leonard or James Johnson) can’t shoot 3’s.
PF (Amir / Ed Davis) can’t shoot 3’s.
and then you have Bargs, who no one really wants shooting 3’s.
So, even though your defense and rebounding would be improved, you will be missing 5-10 extra points each game because you can’t hit a 3.
I’d rather gamble on someone with the potential to be a scorer, and then we can get the Bargnani “my Center is my top shooter/scorer” experiment over with.
The bottom line is DeRozan needs to develop a three-point shot, the point guards need to have the ability to make threes, and there needs to be 1 or 2 guys on the bench who can nail the three at a high percentage in order to stretch the defence.
Getting three-point shooting from your centre or power forward is not ideal on a winning ball club. Even Dirk has cut down his three-point attempts.
Geoff Rahal
Author, RaptorsHQ.com
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jun 1, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I would rather have a SF who crashes the boards and plays good d then a scorer.
BTW…. the fact he is not Carmelo Anthony is a good thing. Anthony is a prime example of people looking at the stat line and stopping at PPG instead of looking at the big picture. Denver looked better after he was shipped out and NY looked worse. Coincidence?
Disagree a bit.
I think it’s a lot easier to get scoring via free agency than someone who can defend multiple positions and be a game-changer with his energy and intensity. I agree that the team does need to have at least one starter who can consistently stretch the floor (to your point, Jose doesn’t do it enough), but if I’m BC, I’m not drafting someone like Jimmer just because he can gun it.
Ideally, and as D Stance notes below, DeMar DeRozan needs to be that perimeter threat. He’s improved his 2 point shooting a great deal, so I’m holding out hope that this will extend to the 3-point arc and beyond next year.
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
How Do You Know Amir Can't Shoot Three's?
I am not saying that he can or that he should but he has never shot enough of them in game situations to know that he can’t shoot and make at a decent percentage spot up threes from the corner or anywhere else beyond the three point arc.
He is a career 41% shooter from 16 – 23 feet with a lot of those makes coming with his back foot maybe a foot or two away from the three point line. Last season he took 1.5 FGA from 16 – 23 feet and made 42% of them.
http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Amir%20Johnson
I know he has been shooting three’s in practice for years. When he was with the Pistons he used to play H.O.R.S.E with Sheed shooting three points shots.
I doubt that he will become the high volume three point shooter that the Raptors need but it wouldn’t surprise me to see him at some point in the future shooting more than one three point shot a game on the average and making close to 40% of them.
Yes. Amir Johnson is the answer to our 3-point shooting troubles.
elephant shell
never question our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - yardly
No He Is Not
You have a hole in your screen door.
I was responding to the statement that he can’t shoot and make threes at a decent percentage. That was all.
Get a life.
I suspect he was insinuating that your point was irrelevant, since the OP stated that Amir/Ed Davis can’t shoot 3s in the context of who could provide primary perimeter scoring on the team. Which of course is correct.
Whether or not Amir has a hidden ability to shoot the 3 is fairly irrelevant to the conversation.
this is correct
who cares if amir johnson shot 3’s in practise against sheed
his career shooting percentage from 3 is 18%. Sure, it gets much better once you move in to 16-20 feet, but range is extremely relevant when it comes to muscle memory
elephant shell
never question our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory - yardly
No kidding?
I never noticed this about Amir. Personally, I don’t want to see him taking too many threes since he is a good offensive rebounder. One a game would be ok, just to confuse the heck out of his defender.
I Think That Eventually He Will Shoot One to Two a Game
which is not a lot.
Like I said he averaged 1.5 FGA a game last season from 16 – 23 feet. The attempts per game were a career high so it wouldn’t surprise me to see him increase it to 2 or so a game next season and maybe sneak in a few threes along the way to test the waters.
If he ever does start shooting more than one three point shot a game I wouldn’t expect to see that for a few more seasons anyway.
+1
Would solve a myriad of issues and even though I’m not sold on Williams being a star in the league, he’d be an upgrade over Johnson and Kleiza for sure.
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
Yep. Three-point shooting from the 2 and 3 spots with a quality PG who can nail the open look and a shooter off the bench would address a lot of the perimeter shooting weakness that plagued the club.
Geoff Rahal
Author, RaptorsHQ.com
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jun 1, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Bayless Can Make The Three Point Shot
and is getting better at it.
Last season with the Raptors he made almost 35% of his 2.2 attempts per game.
The 35% was a career high.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bayleje01.html
I expect him to increase his 3FG% in the future seasons.
Hey, as long as he doesn’t decline like DeRozan did from year one to year two.
Geoff Rahal
Author, RaptorsHQ.com
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jun 1, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
You owe me a book raptorshq
I won a contest months back but still haven’t recieved my wages of wins book, whats the deal?
Lovin these articles though
Aaaah! Was it the “Wages of Wins” book?
I KNEW there was another winner that we didn’t send a book too…it’s actually sitting right beside me here at work. Can you fire me an email to raptorshq@gmail.com with your address? I’ll ship it off on Friday!
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
Raptors HQ
you owe me a box at the ACC for the next decade… I still haven’t recieved it, whats the deal?
(crosses fingers)
by Not so Friendly Stranger on Jun 1, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Typo
“Well averaging a shade under 16 points and 11 assists in your final college season doesn’t hurt in terms of getting attention.”
That should be rebounds not assists. He average 2.5 APG this season which is pretty decent for a college SF.
Nice catch DW19…pretty sure Leonard would be the top pick if he averaged those numbers!!!
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
i noticed that too, but I’m too thick to comment on it. I just think “Oh, wow, he can certainly pass well, seems like a good pick to me” and skip off into the sunset.
this guy does look good, and has really came out of no where,
i still feel like he is more of a number 7-8-9 pick catagorie.
which is 'this years' 5-6-7 pick category...
SF who rebounds and plays defence! we have two choices…. it could be worse….
'....as a child, I dreamt of being a baseball.'
Yes, in any other draft... But sadly this is DRAFTPOCALYPSE!
I got to say, the overall feeling I’m getting from reading these prospect previews is: “Really?? That guy could go in the top 5???”
Well to me the top 5 are Irving, Williams, Knight, Kanter and Walker.
But this is my opinion, but yea now that i think of it, This guy could definitly move up to five,
This is a draft where I’m certain in two years we’ll look back and see the top 10 littered with mediocre players or even busts, whereas some of the best players will come from later on in the first round.
So to me this is a “throw the mocks out the window” year, and simply take the player you think will be the best player possible for your team.
If that’s someone like Kanter, so be it.
If that’s Jon Diebler, grab him now.
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
Yea, I made that point earlier that...
Other than the top 3 bright spots being gone after the top 4 picks, everybody else is so opaque that from 5 down you really ought to draft to try and solve a specific team deficiency…
That’s why even though 5 is “too high” to pick Singleton, I’d do it in a heartbeat because he is a defensive beast and has 3-point range…
"the Truth"
Ya but its now reached the point of high comedy...
I read in Raptorsrepublic’s draft board 2.0 that there is “significant chatter” out there that basically EVERY draft pick is on the trading block. You may be right that there are some hidden gems out there, but not of the All-Star caliber, maybe more of the role player calibiber.
This draft could be the best draft class ever for Indide the NBA’s “WHO HE PLAY FO” game show! LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1dzdK8NC4w
I can see it now in 2013: “Jan Vesely… WHO HE PLAY FO???”
I wonder what the prices are on the top ten or even late first round picks? Maybe this year is when we’ll finally see some straight-up sales of 1st rounders?
Pheonix has sold multiple 1st rounders in the past I believe. So it wouldn't be the first time.
Question is – who’s buying? Is it even worth the money to buy picks in DRAFTPOCALYPSE?
I would buy – a rebuilding team could certainly use a few late lottery or late 1st round picks – take a few chances, maybe strike gold.
Whatever happened to...the 2011 NBA Draft Class?
Bismark Biyombo teams up with Saer Sene to use freakish wingspan to rescue cats stuck in trees.
Kanter scraping out a living as a Blake Griffin impersonator (folding chair not included).
Jonas V pulls a Fran Vazquez, and snubs the NBA so he can live it up in the Spanish League.
Kenneth Faried actually makes it to the NBA. However, he’s hired by Bargnani as “Special Assistant in charge of Defence and Rebounding”
Let’s NBA!
Good Article, but...
I would still like to see the Raps draft Walker if he is on the board at their pick. Simply because this is a poor draft class and Walker has proven to be a clutch performer. Yes undersized blah-blah-blah… but I still remember when Rondo was drafted and how he fell. Not that I think they are remotely the same player, nor will they be, but I think the best bet is to take a chance on someone who has proven to be gritty and an offensive spark plug over someone who hasn’t proven anything really other than being an Avatar freak. Of course if Walker is off the board, then hey why not take a chance on this guy.
Should add...
If they draft Kanter I am going to puke in a bucket and move out of Toronto… I do not care if he becomes a superstar, this team needs players with character, grit, and intense emotion. This team is desperate for a true leader. I don’t know if there is anyone in this draft who could become one… but from outside it looks like Irving and Walker may be the best bets to be ones down the road. Just from observing how they talk in interviews and from what little I have seen of their games.
yep just read that jay is out..gonna find a new coach now..surprizing move I would think.
by sherwin316 on Jun 1, 2011 5:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yea but
He will be retained as a consultant and a special assistant to president and general manager Bryan Colangelo.
If that doesn’t just prove how much of Colangelo’s puppet he was, I don’t know what more you need…
"the Truth"
In case they need to consult with someone on how to construct an NBA-worst defence…
Geoff Rahal
Author, RaptorsHQ.com
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jun 1, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that confirmed that Triano is out or some analyst saying ‘sources’ tell him the coach wiil be out?
New Coach!!!!
Given the weakness of the draft, this is the most exciting news we’ve had in some time.
So now, we need to find a young up and coming coach or go with an established vet. We have been here before and we know what the risks are, so who should we choose?
If we go with a vet, as much as I like Adelman and Sloan, they may be a little old for the role we need the coach to play. I would suggest we offer the position to Lawrence Frank or someone of that type. An experienced, young coach with some fire in his belly and who can inspire the players to play hard. Maybe Shaw as well would be a good fit, but the person MUST want to be here. I would guess Frank is the best one available who would want to be in Toronto but I really don’t know if Shaw would be interested.
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