Raptors HQ Draft Prospect Preview #2 - Chris Singleton
Continuing with their series of 2011 NBA draft prospect previews, the HQ turns their attention to Florida State's Chris Singleton...
Yesterday we launched into a look at some of the lesser-known players in the upcoming NBA draft, ones that while not slated to go in the top five, still seem to be of interest to the Toronto Raptors.
We kicked things off with Alec Burks, and today, we look at another slightly under-the-radar type, Florida State's Chris Singleton.
Singleton is one of my favourite players in this draft, and believe it or not, someone I think Toronto should take a strong look at, even with the fifth pick.
Why?
Well for starters, he's a perfect fit for this team as he would help address two big needs immediately; perimeter defence and long-range shooting.
Singleton is arguably the best overall defender in this draft class using his tremendous size (6-9, 230 lbs), strength and quickness to cause absolute havoc at that end of the court. I saw it first hand as a Duke fan when he shut down the Blue Devils 3-point shooting this past season, ending in an upset for his club over the then ranked number one Dukies.
We all know how desperately Toronto needs to improve in this regard and there's no question the addition of Singleton would provide an immediate boost.
In addition, besides being a great defensive player, Singleton has been a long-range threat over his NCAA career, shooting 37 per cent from downtown last season for Florida State as one of the team's main offensive focal points. That percentage, despite the increase in distance of the NBA 3-point line, could even improve next season as it's doubtful he'll be counted on to provide much of a team's scoring, getting open looks as defenses collapse on his more offensively gifted teammates.
In a recent interview with Hoopsworld, Singleton declared himself to be a "modern day Scottie Pippen," however he has a long ways to go offensively before that occurs.
He's not a great offensive player by any stretch of the imagination, and to touch more on this and Mr. Singleton's other attributes, we turn to Michael Rogner, the basketball columnist for SB Nation's Florida State Blog, Tomahawk Nation, and author of "Run the Floor," an ACC-focussed basketball blog:
-Background:
Chris was a product of the Atlanta Celtics, one of the premier AAU programs in the south. When he committed to Florida State he was arguably the most important player landed at FSU in the past 15 years, as he caused other players like Mike Snaer, Ian Miller, etc... to view FSU as a potential destination. He was a starter from the time he stepped foot on campus, and following a freshman season where Toney Douglas took the ball and everyone else got out of the way, Singleton became the leader for his sophomore and junior seasons. In his tenure the Noles broke a ten year NCAA Tournament drought, and he leaves with the Seminoles having gone to three straight Tournaments. He's in the Seminole career top-10 for both rebounds and steals, and he has one of the only triple-doubles in NCAA history which involved steals.
-Strengths:
Singleton is the best all around defensive player in college. In 2010-11 the media robbed him of his 2nd straight ACC Defensive Player of the Year award because he missed several games with a broken foot, but the coaches - who obviously know better - voted unanimously in his favor. At 6'9" he's a rare player who could guard any 2, 3 or 4 in the conference, as well as most 5s and some of the 1s. And he did this without having elite lateral speed. He has remarkable foot work, balance, anticipation and perhaps the quickest hands of any college big man. He was often used by Leonard Hamilton to shut down an opposing scorer (see 1st half of Duke game), but just as often he was assigned to a lesser talent so that he could play off that player and use his anticipation and length to menace passing lanes and wreck shop. One-on-one he's intuitive and due to exceptional footwork rarely gets beat on the wrong side - he always knows where his help is and funnels his man toward it. And he plays with consistent, balls-to-the-wall intensity. He bought FSU numerous possessions each game through his rebounding, blocked shots and steals.
-Weaknesses:
While his offensive game was far more nuanced his junior year in comparison to his previous two, he's simply not a polished NBA level offensive player. With his feet set he's an excellent shooter out to the NBA 3-pt line, but off the dribble his mechanics break down. He also has a tendency to drift too much on the perimeter even when he has a mismatch inside, though any NBA coach worth his salt should be able to correct this. Coach Hamilton isn't exactly known for free-flowing, efficient offenses, so with the added practice time that comes with the professional game I'd expect his offensive decision making to improve. His interior passing is forced, and he doesn't have a good understanding of post-entry angles. He also needs to work on his free throw shooting, as a player who's gifted at getting to the line he's just a 60% career shooter (66.7% this season).
Defensively, his only real weakness is that he thinks he can take the ball from anyone at anytime, and in doing so commits a couple silly reach fouls each game.
-Upside:
Singleton falls into the "freak athlete" category, even in comparison to NBA players, and his offensive potential hasn't been tapped. His mechanics are solid, but inconsistent, and just prior to breaking his foot was playing the best basketball of his career - having scored 42 points on just 20 shots in his last 3 games, mostly by using his inside game to open up perimeter shots which he was hitting. He also excels in higher tempo situations, which should translate well to the pro game. And as just about any player who played multiple seasons under Coach Hamilton, he's physical, exerts maximum effort, and never backs down.
-Future as an NBA SF?
At the very least he'll be one of the best defensive small forwards in the league from the moment he signs his contract. But his value as a #1 pick will ultimately come down to his offense. And I doubt he'll blow anyone away his rookie season - though he'll certainly have breakout games. But with his work ethic, intelligence and willingness to be coached, I'm confident that he'll blossom into the type of player that is critical to a championship caliber team's success. He'll never be the offensive face of an organization, but the superstars out there would be negligent if they didn't appreciate the value of a teammate like Singleton. He's a unique commodity in this draft, but his uniqueness also makes his true value difficult to judge.
A big thanks to Michael for an incredibly insightful breakdown, and it's interesting to see just how far Singleton has to go offensively.
This is my biggest concern too, but considering how well he tested at the draft combine (one of the top 15 athletes based on Draftexpress' ranking system), how important having someone of his size and defensive caliber now is in the league, and his ability to stretch the floor, to me this is the safest pick the Raps could make come June.
He doesn't have the upside of a Knight or even some of the foreign players, but right now he's ahead of names like Alec Burks and Kawhi Leonard on our draft board, which will be re-introduced this weekend.
I couldn't find many great compilations from his time as a Seminole but here are some highlights of his career-high 23 points last season versus Georgia Tech:
One final thought that some may have upon reading Singleton's breakdown; does he become a James Johnson clone?
I don't think so.
Sure, we're talking two players with great size for the 3-spot in the league, but the scary thing is that Singleton is even bigger than Johnson.
Johnson's pre-draft measurements had him standing a shade under 6-8, with a 8 foot, 9.5 inch standing reach and a wingspan of just under 7 feet and an inch.
Singleton's measured out slightly taller and longer, in addition to being leaner, quicker, and more athletic.
Really, outside of immediate physical similarities, these are two completely different players in my books. While Johnson has the potential to be a great defender, he was never a lock-down type even at Wake Forest. He's also a lot more skilled in terms of his passing ability and ball-handling than Singleton, more of an offensive force off the bounce and in close, and not as good a long-range shooter. In fact you could argue that these two players would be nice complements to each other on the court, a scary thought for opposing NBA teams.
So would I draft Singleton with the fifth pick of the NBA draft?
At this point that might be a bit high considering his offensive issues, however I can't help but think how much tougher an opponent the Raptors would be if they could at times throw out a 6-9 shooting guard in Singleton to stretch the floor and defend LeBron James' types, and a 6-8 small forward in James Johnson who could punish his opponent on the blocks.
The second coming of Scottie Pippen, Singleton is not, however if drafted, I'm hard pressed to think that he wouldn't provide a great return on investment for a woeful defensive club like the Raps.
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Chris would easily be a lottery pick
if he could shoot and dribble. But his lack of ball handling skills and poor shooting may push him into the late first round. Great defensive guy tho altho I personally was never impressed by his lateral quickness. To me he got beaten by quicker guards/forwards going left or right. Not sure if he is a much better option than James Johnson.
Loved Kyle Weaver ha ha.
He’s still in the OKC system actually.
But I think Singleton will be a much better prospect thanks to his size and athleticism.
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
by Adam Francis on May 27, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
He Signed To Play In Belgium
I was also a big fan of his when he played for the Cougars
He was waived by the Thunder, signed with Bulls and waived by the Bulls. Signed a 10 day contract with the Jazz and then signed to play in Belgium for the remainder of 2010-11
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/weaveky01.html
Kyle Weaver Signs in Belgium
Former Iowa Energy and Austin Toro Kyle Weaver has signed in Belgium, with first-place Spirou Basket, for the remainder of the season.
http://tinyurl.com/3plhmo6
Great job, Michael!
This is very true
Singleton is the best all around defensive player in college. In 2010-11 the media robbed him of his 2nd straight ACC Defensive Player of the Year award because he missed several games with a broken foot, but the coaches – who obviously know better – voted unanimously in his favor. At 6’9" he’s a rare player who could guard any 2, 3 or 4 in the conference, as well as most 5s and some of the 1s. And he did this without having elite lateral speed. He has remarkable foot work, balance, anticipation and perhaps the quickest hands of any college big man. He was often used by Leonard Hamilton to shut down an opposing scorer (see 1st half of Duke game), but just as often he was assigned to a lesser talent so that he could play off that player and use his anticipation and length to menace passing lanes and wreck shop. One-on-one he’s intuitive and due to exceptional footwork rarely gets beat on the wrong side – he always knows where his help is and funnels his man toward it. And he plays with consistent, balls-to-the-wall intensity. He bought FSU numerous possessions each game through his rebounding, blocked shots and steals.
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'10: 7th in offense, 41st in defense. Division Champions. 10-4. (6-3)
'09: 3rd in offense, 107th in defense. 7-6 (4-4)
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It’s hard to teach defense and the work it takes to be a great defender where offense skill are more a work in progress, and taught skills. DD wasn’t the best of ball handlers and still needs work but he is light years ahead of where he was a year ago. If you think that Chris can learn those things he is a great piece for a team. I wonder how 11.3 (Draft Express) translates for Lane agility, possible someone can help.
The lane agility score is the time required for that athlete to complete the agility test, a series of sprints, turns, and moves in succession. The lower the number the better. 11.37 is the average score for a SF. 11.29 is the average score for a SG, so his 11.33 is pretty good. As a reference, Dwyane Wade scored a 10.56, while Melo scored an 11.40, and Bosh scored an 11.80. For a 6’9 guy, he is certainly above average in terms of agility.
Also, his 3.09 sprint is insanely good for a player his size. Dwyane Wade scored a 3.08. Derrick Rose scored a 3.05. The average for a SF is 3.26, while the average for a PG is 3.2. So, yeah – he’s ridiculously fast.
I’m starting to like this kid.
by dhackett1565 on May 27, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, thanks for that dhackett, didn’t get time to go into those details for this post but wanted to touch on them in tomorrow morning’s mock draft breakdown.
The sprint AND bench (he pressed 15 times, one of the best in this year’s class) really stand out.
Of course you do have to take some of this with a grain of salt.
Remember, Joey Graham benched TWENTY SIX freakin reps, and had a lane agility of 10.26…
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by Adam Francis on May 27, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Joey was an amazing athlete – physically he was one of the top specimens of that draft. It was always his BBall IQ that was going to limit him – and limit him it did indeed.
Agreed though – these measurements are just one piece of the puzzle – workouts and of course college scouting help fill in the rest, so hopefully you guys will get a chance to see him in some workouts against good competition in the next few weeks.
by dhackett1565 on May 27, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Singleton
Defense, BBall IQ and 3-point shooting as strengths with his offense a work in progress. He sounds like a Posey/Bowen type of guy.
I only saw one FSU game this season, so I can’t say much about Singleton based on personal observation. Theoretically, he sounds like a great fit for the Raptors, both in terms of his skills and his mentality.
It seems like the best bet for the Raptors if Singleton is the guy would be to trade down a few places to grab him and hopefully pick up extra pick(s) or prospect(s) in the deal.
Or even if, say, Bargnani is being moved to another lottery team, perhaps include a swap of draft picks to grease the deal.
by dhackett1565 on May 27, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn't it be great...
… If we could trade Bargnani to the Euroleague! For example, we could trade him to the team Jonas V. plays for in exchange for them waiving his current contract obligations if we draft him.
I have been high on Singleton for months - without any recourse to dhacketts potent 'math'
Kind of makes me wonder what it would be like for us to play Julian Wright at the PF, and have Singleton at the SF… for once we could defend the perimeter effectively…
I understand the that JW qualifying salary is huge – but I like the guy… he plays D and can pass and is stop-gap PG…lol
Speaking of other players (from previous drafts),
Avery Bradley PG is languishing in Boston…..
Stanley Robinson SF was cut loose by Orlando becuase of their clusterf**k roster…
Jarvis Varnado is doing who knows what, while Miami is looking for their championship…
'....as a child, I dreamt of being a baseball.'
who would you prefer at our 2nd PG spot?
Avery Bradley or Brandon Knight or Kemba Walker?
Bradley was known for his stellar D wasn’t he? Might be a nice fit next to Singleton
It’s just a question….
'....as a child, I dreamt of being a baseball.'
I think I would have to go with Brandon Knight based strictly on potential. The problem is we already know that Avery Bradley has had trouble getting time in this league, while Knight is still a wild card…
considering the logjam at PG or 'backcourt in general'... Avery Bradley has seen almost zero floor time
'....as a child, I dreamt of being a baseball.'
Different draft – this year I bet Avery goes top 10, or at the very least late lottery.
Mind you, I don’t want Avery.
by dhackett1565 on May 27, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya was thinking that (strength of the two drafts) when I wrote that...
… but still, if Avery goes top 10 and Knight seems to be a top 5 on most draft boards…
Pure Speculation
Knowing what people now know about Bradley and how he performed like crap this rookie season he would be lucky to go in the top 20 this season and maybe not even the first round.
Bradley had an incredible WS/48 of minus .142.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bradlav01.html
That is the eighth worst all-time WS/48 in a single season of all players all-time that have played at least 150 minutes in a season.
In Fact Bradley Had The 2nd Worst
WS/48 all-time of all players who were first round picks and played at least 150 minutes in a season.
Only Tom Stitch who was selected 2nd overall in 1961 was worse.
Of course in defense of Stith his tuberculosis was already pretty well advanced by his rookie season.
Tom Stith played one season with the New York Knicks before his NBA career was cut short by tuberculosis
I remember seeing the Stith bothers play for the Bonnies when Stith played in college. That was one heck of a team as I recall in Tom’s senior season. I think that at one point they were as high as second in the nation.
As I recall both Stith brothers (Tom and Sam) got TB along with one or two other starters. Turns out that they already had TB in their senior seasons. I don’t recall how the information was kept secret until after the NBA draft that season.
well if Bradley played with Cholera - that would explain some of those stats...
I was never a Bradley fan…but all those scouts were very high on his defence… and he seems like another player where the languishing seems to be hurting them…
Rondo, Nate, Daniels, Von Wafer etc etc… all getting in line beore you would be alot different to what the Raptors could offer him in terms of an opportunity…
lasy year I wouldn’t have touched James Johnson and was pretty down on anyone from that Wake Forest team…
'....as a child, I dreamt of being a baseball.'
Of course it’s pure speculation – however, to say that his performance in the NBA would affect his draft position is absolutely ridiculous – by definition, when being drafted a player cannot have been in the NBA, and we didn’t know he would do so badly when he was drafted, so what’s your point?
My suggestion was that the talent level the last few years in the late lottery is similar to the talent level this year in the mid-lottery range.
by dhackett1565 on May 27, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be the concise way to put it.
by dhackett1565 on May 27, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Slam Online: Mock: Bismack Biyombo, No. 5
His work ethic is apparently off the charts, he competes to the point of physical exhaustion, and he possess the size, length and quickness to lock down the paint. Pairing a developed Biyombo alongside Andrea Bargnani would allow both players to play to their strengths, letting their unique individual talents compensate for the others weaknesses. The killer B’s.
complete article here
I Thought Amir Was Going To Have Ankle Surgery
in June.
This could be a mistake as I haven’t seen a confirmation of this.
15 Orthopedic and Spine Surgeons Treat Professional Athletes
Written by Laura Miller | May 26, 2011 OrthoCarolina’s Robert Anderson, MD, performed ankle surgery on Toronto Raptors forward Amir Johnson.
Evidently It Is A Done Deal as the Report Was Confirmed Here
May 18 Amir Johnson to Undergo Ankle Surgery. Raptors center Amir Johnson will have surgery next week to take care of a "ligament issue," president and general manager Bryan Colangelo said. Johnson, who missed the last week of the regular season with an ankle issue, will have the surgery within the next week in North Carolina and it will be conducted by the same doctor who performed foot surgery on Reggie Evans. Johnson will be ready for the start of training camp, Colangelo added
Good news
The sooner the better – reduces the risk of him rushing back or being rushed back before he is ready.
by dhackett1565 on May 27, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah really good news. Hopefully they can get him back in workouts etc (provided there’s no lockout) by August.
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
by Adam Francis on May 27, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
What Is Interesting About It Is That I Haven't Seen Him Tweet Anything About It
at all.
Nothing about the fact that he was gong to have the surgery or did have the surgery
However, he did not tweet anything from May 17 to May 22nd. It is very unusual for him to go that long without a tweet of some kind, even when he is on vacation.
https://twitter.com/#!/IamAmirJohnson
Lovin' the write-ups
RHQ, thanks for these prospect write-ups. I am really enjoying getting more details on guys that I haven’t followed particularly closely through their college careers.
Keep up the great work!!
Agreed
As a guy who watched all of 2 college games and 0 euro games last season, these posts have been pretty helpful.
Thanks folks, love doing them – favourite time of the year!
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
by Adam Francis on May 27, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Right now Singleton is a lottery pick on the mock drafts that I trust, and is viewed as being considered as high as 5 by the Raps, and then from 7by Sacramento, on down to 14.
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
by Adam Francis on May 27, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Just Curious Which Sites Show Him 5th and 7th?
Friday, May 27th, 2011 at 12:34 pm | no responses
Chris Singleton’s Draft Diary
Follow the FSU big man as he gets ready for the show
After bringing his Florida State Seminoles to the Sweet Sixteen, junior forward Chris Singleton announced that he would enter the 2011 NBA Draft. Singleton led the Seminoles to three consecutive NCAA Tournaments, ending a decade absence from the Tourney. Along the way Singleton earned the ACC Defensive Player of the Year Award and a reputation as a versatile, lock down defender.
This season, Chris averaged 13.1 points and grabbed 6.8 boards a game. Sidelined in early February with a fractured foot, he returned in time for a post-season push the Seminoles hadn’t seen since Sam Cassell was in maroon and gold.
NBA scouts have taken note. With a 6-9, 225-pound frame, Chris’s defensive intensity and ability to guard the 1, 2, 3 and 4 positions have Mock Drafts projecting him to go anywhere from the 12th to the 25th pick on June 23rd. Chris is going to keep us updated on what he’s doing leading up to that big day in NYC, and here’s Chris with his first update.
As told to Dan Shapiro
No sites – from Chad Ford’s blog posts over the past while.
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
by Adam Francis on May 27, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks
In his latest Mock Draft v3.0 Ford has Singleton going 12th
At No. 12, Ford has the Jazz going with Chris Singleton. Now, I know Singleton would be an excellent addition defensively, but he’s not enough of an offensive threat to go this high. I’d see them go with Burks or Jimmer Fredette before Singleton.
HoopsWorld Mock #4 and The Raptors Draft
There was a tie between Kanter and Knight with two votes each and Vesely getting one vote.
Interestingly enough four of the five on the panel had Valanciunas going before pick #5
this is getting ridiculous....
Interestingly enough four of the five on the panel had Valanciunas going before pick #5
as far as I am concerned that’s great news…as long we as don’t draft him…. or Vesely…
let someone else draft them, pay them, deal with the remorse…etc
'....as a child, I dreamt of being a baseball.'
You Seem Pretty Confident That Valanciunas
play will cause the team that drafts him to have remorse.
I am not sure where you get the information to back that up.
In any case I would prefer Kanter for the Raptors because he reminds me of Blake LOL
I Assume That You R Referring to Enes
If so that will work 4sure. LOL
Gut feelings, reading stuff here, ..tarot cards
I am not sure where you get the information to back that up.
I just don’t see anything in Valanciunas’s game that makes me want to draft him…
yes he can catch and flush…. but really what else? Amir and Ed + Valanciunas doesnt add up for me.
Kanter yes! Biyombo yes! Vesely…mmm… why not trade for chase budinger instead?
'....as a child, I dreamt of being a baseball.'
and the remorse, well that would be mine.... by passing on Valanciunas someone else can grieve for me instead... or experience the 'joy'... just do it elsewhere! lol
'....as a child, I dreamt of being a baseball.'
You Probably Never Even Saw Him Play
But is basing your analysis onl
1. He is a Euro
2. He needs to add more muscle at age 18.
i'm not anti-euro - in fact I was more 'enamoured' with Artsiom Parakhouski who went undrafted....
nor is it about Valanciunas lack of muscle …. and maybe I’m just a lousy judge of character/talent.
I guess it will all come down to workouts before I jump to camp Valanciunas…
'....as a child, I dreamt of being a baseball.'
Johnrw
Please Please no Jimmy wishes….MLE won’t be able to afford the new roof the fans will blow off if the Raptors draft this kid. We have enough issues with defense as it stands.
Great breakdown!
As a Warriors fan, Singleton is the guy I’m pushing for at #11. In fact, that’s who we chose in our SB Nation mock (over Donatas and Marcus Morris).
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"It’s not all about stats…you’ve probably never played basketball in your life. There are things called intangibles. He is what you call a winner. Led his team to a national title. We need people who know how to win. He obviously has to be doing something right." (dhod)
"When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind; it may be the beginning of knowledge, but you have scarcely in your thoughts advanced to the state of science." (Lord Kelvin)
Warriors are working him out tomorrow
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"It’s not all about stats…you’ve probably never played basketball in your life. There are things called intangibles. He is what you call a winner. Led his team to a national title. We need people who know how to win. He obviously has to be doing something right." (dhod)
"When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind; it may be the beginning of knowledge, but you have scarcely in your thoughts advanced to the state of science." (Lord Kelvin)

























