Raptors HQ Talks to Raptors' Assistant Coach Eric Hughes - Part II
Part two of the HQ's chat with Raps' Assistant Coach, Eric Hughes...
Today we bring you part two of said chat, where we continue the discussion and touch on topics ranging from the year Sonny Weems had, to the future of Julian Wright in the league...
8. RHQ: Another player we touched on last time we talked, was a player who at that time, seemed to be following a similar trajectory as DeMar, and that's Sonny Weems. Now DeMar had one type of season and Sonny had another, give us your take on Sonny's year.
CH: Well, we're talking about DeMar's growth, and unfortunately it happens this way at times in sports, but DeMar's growth probably happened a little bit because of Sonny's injury. I mean they split minutes a lot early in the season and basically DeMar started and Sonny was the back-up to him. And when Sonny got hurt, DeMar's minutes increased, and Sonny's injury helped DeMar's maturation. But at the same time, you know, I don't think Sonny ever really recovered from that back injury. I think it took a lot out of him, he had a lot of confidence early, and I think that back injury hurt him. But you know, same thing with Sonny as DeMar, he's got to have the ability to knock down 3-point shots, but in addition, his free-throw attempts need to be increased, he's gotta stop settling for jump shots and being a jump shooter, he's gotta get himself to the basket, and he's gotta do the same as DeMar and change his body a little bit to get a little physically stronger and not just rely on his athleticism. This would allow him to get in there and create contact and get to the foul line.
9. RHQ: Moving from one youngster to another, we've touched on Ed, DeMar and Sonny, what about some of the guys who became part of the team later in the year, Jerryd Bayless and James Johnson?
CH: Well I think Jerryd Bayless showed what kind of scorer he can be. Now, I think again, the question again is, "is he a point guard or an off-guard," because he definitely was a very effective scorer for us but at times struggled running the team. I think he's got to develop the ability to be a bit more of a play-maker but I think it's obvious Jerryd can score the ball any time he wants. He had some huge games for us and was a great asset to our team when Jose was out and got some great confidence towards the end of the season. And Jerryd is a tremendous worker, I think that was a great pick-up for us. He struggled a bit at the beginning, coming in in the middle, trying to learn the system, new teammates and trying to learn on the fly, but as the season went on, I think you saw what he could do. He's a very good defender, and again, his ability to score and get going, he can score in bunches. Jerryd's a hard worker, I don't worry about him with no Summer League and trying to get him motivated. He's a self-motivator and he'll have a great off-season.
The other guy we got, James Johnson, again, it's tough when you come in that late, and we got him basically at the trade deadline, so he probably only played 25-30 games with us. But he showed signs of why we got him. He's a true 3 man, he's big, he's strong, we think he has the ability to be a lock-down defender because of his athleticism and size, he gave us the option of posting him up a bunch of times and Jay did that. We ran a bunch of isos for him because of his ability to get by guys with his athleticism but again, it's a another case where he's got to develop a more consistent jump shot, not even a 3-point shot, but the ability to knock down that 15 to 17 footer, that gives you a kind of bread-and-butter shot like DeMar has now. DeMar's developed that shot and James has to too. And once you do that, I think it opens up so many other options.
So James, again, was a pleasant surprise for us and what Bryan said all along, James is a true 3-man for us. Sonny's not a 3-man, Sonny's a 2-man although we played him a bunch at 3 but James gives us the ability to post up and have that small forward that most teams want to have so I think he's a great piece for us.
10. RHQ: Looking at the other 3-man that was there for the bulk of the season, Julian Wright, contrast those two, because a lot of the skill-sets they bring are similar, especially when you talk about length and athleticism and jump shot issues. Do you see a place for Wright with Johnson going forward?
CH: Julian's contract is expiring so it's always first about whether guys like that will be back with the team next season. His jump shot probably needs the most development. I think Julian falls into that category of always being so much bigger, stronger and more athletic than everyone else going through high school and college and he never felt the need to develop that part of his game. But he's got a long ways to go. Until he's able to knock down that jump shot consistently, he's going to have to find other ways to help the team. And we tried to do that at times, he's a great defender, a great passer, I think he's got a great feel for the game, but I think at times we struggled putting him on the floor because we had to find a way to have that position score and he struggled in that manner.
Julian though did a lot of great things for us. He's a great practice player, he always kept everyone on their toes in practice because he's only got one speed, that's 100 miles per hour. But Julian's a great piece. Jay threw him in at times when we were struggling and he had some pretty good games for us.
11. RHQ: It's funny because I talked to Julian at the end of the season and he mentioned to me that he was going to break his shot down and start from scratch because he had been using essentially the same shot since junior high and felt that that was what was holding him back in the NBA...
CH: ...yeah, I think a lot of those kids who are so athletic, and so much bigger and stronger than everyone coming up through high school and college, you know you don't develop the ability to shoot a jump shot consistently because you don't need to. That's not what you do, you run past everybody, you jump over everybody, DeMar fell into that same category. If you watch highlights of DeMar in college you almost never saw him making jump shots. It was post-ups, it was free-throws, it was dunks and lay-ups, it was breakaways and you saw the explosiveness. But kids like that, they never develop a jump shot because they just never need to. And so for Julian to go back and just, you know, break things down like you were talking about, like Tiger Woods did with his golf swing, I think it's a great idea because he's got a great body, a great motor and a great feel for the game. But until he develops that jump shot consistently, in my opinion he's never going to take his career to another level. And he knows that. Julian knows that he's gotta knock that jump shot down consistently to contribute in this league for sure.
12. RHQ: The last youngster that I wanted to touch on was Solomon Alabi. Obviously he played a lot less than the other young guys but talk about how you thought his year went?
CH: I think originally when we drafted Solo, we drafted him as a quote-unquote, project, or someone, just like in college in the US when they "red-shirt" guys, and I think Solo was looked at as kind of an NBA red-shirt. We sent him down to the D League, we called him back up, there weren't a lot of opportunities to play him, he basically got his playing time in practice and in workouts before and after practice. Solo has an opportunity to be a good player in this league because of his size, his ability to block shots, and the one thing he can do is make free throws, and he can knock down a 15, 17 foot jump shot when he's facing up, I think he showed that last year in Summer League.
Obviously Solo, physically has to change his body, his reaction time needs to be better, he's gotta be able to change his mobility a little bit, and our strength and conditioning staff, I mean Johnny Lee has done a great job with him, working on his balance, working on his flexibility, working on his lateral movement. So Solo's a great kid, he might be a year or two away, and maybe, needs more bouts in the D League, but again, he needs practice and he needs the opportunity to play. No Summer League REALLY hurts a guy like Solo because he needs to play in games. D League was good for him but the D League is more of a guard-oriented league and he didn't maybe play as many minutes as he would have liked, as we would have liked, but you can't control that. He goes down there and the team he's with decides how many minutes he plays, or doesn't play, but Solo has a great feel, we just have to change his body and give him more opportunities to play.
RHQ: I think that's such a huge point that you touch on, you see so often in the NBA how big a factor confidence is and just getting those reps and that experience...
CH: ...yeah, you can practice as much as you want but it's not the same as a game. I mean in practice, other than when we scrimmage from time to time, the majority of it is half court stuff. We might go up and down in the half-court down and back, or something like that but it's not the same as game scenarios where you go up and down five times in a row before the whistle blows. Plus you don't know who's going to practice that day, guys are banged up later in the season and we don't practice as long, so it's hard for a guy like Solo to get great reps. He needs game time and again, while the D League is designed for that, I'm not sure it's designed for 7 foot guys to develop those habits. It's more of a guard-oriented league and if you look at the players who get called up, the majority of them if you look at them from a percentage standpoint would be guards.
13. RHQ: To wrap up then, the upcoming draft; the Raptors have a pretty good shot at a top overall pick, without getting too much into it, can you talk about where you think the strength of the draft is and team needs in terms of approaching it?
CH: You know that's not really my area. I know the team has their draft board and they're looking at certain guys but that's not really my strength or area. It could be a situation though based on which pick we get and the way the ping pong fall, we're going to have the opportunity to get a great player and I think once we find out what pick that is, and kind of decide, there's really all kinds of areas that could be addressed. Do you want to go with a big man, do you want to go with a point guard, and ultimately that's Bryan and Jay's and management's call on that kind of stuff and whoever they pick, I'm looking forward to working with that guy in the off-season to get them ready to play for the Raptors next year. You don't want to have a bad season but one of the silver linings of having a bad season is you know you've got a chance to get a great player in the draft and the top part of this draft looks like it will provide a great piece.
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I liked this quote a lot:
“same thing with Sonny as DeMar, he’s got to have the ability to knock down 3-point shots, but in addition, his free-throw attempts need to be increased, he’s gotta stop settling for jump shots and being a jump shooter, he’s gotta get himself to the basket,”
3-point shooting accuracy and shot selection. That is what these guys and especially Sonny need to work on offensively. I would have liked to see more emphasis on Weems improving his focus on defense, but maybe Alvin will talk more about that when you get in touch with him.
15-17 foot jumper
So if I am understanding Hughes, that is a minimum requirement to get time on the court for the Raptors. I guess that would explain why Kleiza (who is perceived to have that shot in his arsenal) was favoured so heavily over Wright in terms of playing time this season.
I would like to see the Raptors take a slightly more balanced view and add things like fighting through screens or boxing out your defensive assignment to their minimum standard of performance in order to see playing time.
It’s interesting you note the “15 to 17 foot” piece DW19 – I didn’t realize until I was transcribing the interview over the weekend, just how many times he alluded to it for various players.
Either that means
a) The Raps value the ability to knock down shots over many other qualities or
b) The team can’t shoot.
I’d say it’s a bit of both but leaning more heavily on the latter…
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by Adam Francis on May 10, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
regarding b)
I agree this is certainly an issue. I would also say that the Raptors lack of 3-point shooting exacerbated things. They were not able to space the floor due to having few credible 3-point threats. That made it was easier for the defense to cover and switch on the Raptors shooters inside the arc. Tighter defensive coverage led the Raptors already questionable shooting to be that much worse and it also clogged up the lanes for guys to drive to the basket (for presumably higher percentage shots).
Another thing I’ve noticed a lot in these playoffs is just how important the ability to stretch the floor is. We’re seeing a lot of teams play a “small ball” style and take advantage of the inside/outside ability of their “bigs” in said smaller line-ups. The Raps don’t have any of this as even their “mismatch” guys like James Johnson aren’t good enough shooters. I’m guessing BC will attempt to address this in the off-season provided there’s no lock-out.
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by Adam Francis on May 10, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Have to disagree to a point.
I think you could make the case for the exact opposite. With the success of teams like Memphis your seeing that having big people that hustle, rebound and defend the interior can lead to your team exceeding expectations. Atlanta and to a lesser extent Chicago are also examples of this.
Right – but Zach Randolph is hardly a traditional 4. He has a huge ability to spread the floor with his shooting.
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by Adam Francis on May 10, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Add in Gasol’s ability to hit that 17 foot jump shot (that again?), and they’ve got a lot of shooters on that team.
by dhackett1565 on May 10, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Randolf and Gasol’s ability to control the paint, rebound and defend had a MUCH larger impact – especially in their ability to close out San Antonio – than 17 foot jump shots…
And furthermore, Randold is about as "traditional" a four as you can get
Get’s the bulk of his offense through post-ups and put-backs. In fact, he is one of the leagues premeir offensive rebounders (I think he may be the best – have to look it up).
Gasol, also uses his size about as well as any other centre in the league to box out and control the paint/clog the middle. The jump shooting is just gravy on the main course…
Oh and dhackett...
… regarding this comment " they’ve got a lot of shooters on that team…" Memphis was 27th in the league in 3pt shooting this season and is not known as a good shooting team. Actually, its the oposite… They are a good team because they rely on toughness, rebounding, defense and attacking the rim and shy away from jump shooting.
They Have Continued To Play Well
after their one good jump shooter, Max Man Rudy went out for the remainder of the season.
Changing bodies
Interesting to see how often Hughes emphasized the need for the Raptors youngsters to develop their bodies to suit their positions. That is a fact of NBA life now that guys are being drafted as 19 year-olds rather than 22-year-olds, as they used to be “back in the day”.
As far as Alabi is concerned, I will be interested to see if they can get him to where he needs to be physically. It is tough improving things like mobility and balance because some guys just naturally have a big advantage in that department. I guess if Alabi improves his footwork, core strength and general understanding of the game then his otherwise good physical tools should give him a shot at being a defensive presence in the Chandler-Ratliff-Camby mold (ie. long shot blocker who can rebound).
Bayless
It sounds like the Raptors coaches are still not convinced about his play-making skills. Some posters around here probably agree with that assessment(RapthoseLeafs?)
What I like about Bayless is his work ethic, which Hughes also mentioned. His game reminds me a bit of Jarrett Jack, but he has a bit more athleticism(in my opinion).
When You Compare Him To Jose What Do You Expect
There is no doubt that when Raptors management and fans look at Bayless play making skills they either consciously or unconsciously compare him to Jose.
Jose is one of the best play makers in the league. For example least season he averaged 10.4 assists per 36 minutes which was third best in the league behind only Nash and Rondo.
Bayless averaged 6.4 assists per 36 minutes which was only 28th best in the league. However, as a starter he upped it to 6.8 assists per 36 minutes which was 21st best in the league and actually better than Mike Conley and Jrue Holiday.
It seems to me that the Raptors have to make a decision. Do they want a pass first PG like Jose, though not necessarily Jose or do they want a PG that can and will also score.
Optimally they would like a 20 – 10 PG but unless they draft Irving or trade for CP3 which probably will never happen, I doubt that they will find a 20 – 10 PG. Every team would love to have one of those. LOL
D. Rose averaged only 7.4 assists per 36 minutes this last season about a half more assist per 36 minutes than Bayless averaged as a starter. They both had about the same assist to turnover ratio.
That's true
The long-term best case scenario for Bayless would be to become a Billups-style PG. He would run the offense, but not necessarily create shots for others (ie give up the ball to others at the right time and look to shoot/score at the right time). On defense, Bayless already has the intensity and athleticism, but he could use more refinement.
Going to write a bit about this later in the week but essentially besides forcing Bargs to play the 5, another big issue I think that really hasn’t been addressed, is whether they stick with Jose as the 1 going forward, or look to find a true stud at that position.
Is it Bayless?
I don’t think so, but this platoon system I don’t think helps anyone.
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by Adam Francis on May 10, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Its Always Good To Look To Add A Stud
As we know it is a lot easier said then done.
If Conley and Jrue Holiday can lead their respective teams into the playoffs and Bayless is just as good a dime man as they are then there is in my opinion no reason to think that Bayless couldn’t start for a playoff team in the NBA.
I think Bayless’ problem is one of how he is perceived. Since he can score a lot in bunches people have always tended to look at him as a shoot first PG and not a real good dime man.
There are better dimers out there as I have posted but I think that one has to look at his overall game.
Lets not forget one important thing with respect to Bayless racking up the dimes. When he is on the court the Raptors run a lot. They were in fact either the top or in the top five for sure teams this season in transition points per game. I don’t know how this would have impacted his dime per 36 minute count but I would think it would have an impact and possibly negative.
Bottom line is can Bayless start for a playoff team? I say if Conley and Holiday can then he can. That works for me.
Lockout plans?
I am splitting up my comments here and kind of spamming the comment board, but this is my last point for now.
It seemed like Hughes alluded a little to the Raptors take on the lockout in the interview yesterday. He talked about how with no summer league the coaches are going to see the players earlier than they would usually. I assume a background motivation for this is also that if the league imposes a lockout then the coaches will be forbidden from interacting officially with the players starting in early July. With Hughes and Alvin getting out there now they can monitor the players progress and agree on a plan for them to follow through the summer so lockout or not they will be developing in the way that the team wants them to. Seems like a smart way for the Raps coaching staff to hedge their bets.
Thanks again for the interview. I am looking forward to the one with Alvin.
Bang on here – really this is the smart play by the Raps coaches in case the lock-out comes and they can’t interact with the players.
On that note, we’ve discussed the concept of “bad luck” recently and wouldn’t this be an extension of it? The Raptors because of their youth would HAVE to be one of the top five teams impacted by a lock-out in terms of the potential inability of the coaching staff to thoroughly monitor their players’ off-season on-goings.
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by Adam Francis on May 10, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Bang On?
LOL
Has anyone else noticed that Devlin doesn’t use the phrase when he does a NBA playoff game?
Also, didn’t he stop using the word “Punjabi”. I actually liked the way he used it. I thought it was rather funny. It would have sounded even better if he learned the Punjabi dialect.. LOL
Did the PC Police tell him to stop using it?
Why Don't They Send Solo Overseas Next Season?
Playing a year or two in Europe will give him good experience and the Raptors will know more about his potential.
D-League, Raptors bench or Europe. – I vote for Europe.
Weems is I believe a free agent. If Barbosa returns next season even if the Raptors extend his contract over the summer there will be no need for Weems. My guess is that Weems spot on the roster will be replaced by either a draft pick or someone already in the NBA.
No mention made of Ajinca? His game is a lot better than Solos and Ajinca is only six weeks older than Solo.
I guess Hughes only talked about the young players he is responsible for. We know that English handles Amir and English probably also coaches Ajinca
Is that possible?
I thought European teams own the contracts of their players. Would the Raptors lose Solo’s contract rights if he went to Europe? Could the Raptors loan him to a Euroleague squad? Does anyone know the regulations on this? I would guess that if it was permitted it would happen more often.
Yeah not sure if that’s even possible. It is in the inverse (player gets drafted while still being under contract with a Euro-league team), but can’t think of a single example of a player who was sent to Europe to develop.
Josh Childress took an NBA break but his contract was up with the Hawks. Yes, he was still technically property of Atlanta in terms of first dibs when he returned to the league, but under contract with his squad overseas, he was under their rules etc.
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by Adam Francis on May 10, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Possible To Do With Draft Picks and Restricted Free Agents Under Current CBA
A number of drafts ago the Pistons got two second round picks from Seattle in exchange for the PIstons first round pick. I don’t recall the year but I know that it was D.J. White that the Pistons drafted and then traded to Seattle for the players below.
The Pistons sent Deron, also no props needed, Washington to play in Israel. Washington later came back and played some games for the Pistons They then traded or cut him, I can’t recall which..
They also sent Trent. Plaistaid (sic?) to play in Europe where he played about 2.5 games before he got injured and was out for the remainder of the season. He then showed up in the next season’s Summer League playing for the Pistons. I don’t recall what happened to him after that.
When J. Childress played for the Haws and became a RFA he signed to play in Greece? as I recall. He signed a two year deal.
When he came back to the NBA the Hawks still had the rights to him as a RFA. They then traded him to the Suns.
I don’t recall every hearing anything about the Hawks arranging for his contract in Europe with the idea that he would play there two seasons and then return to the Hawks a better player. However, it could be done as a gentleman’s agreement between the team and the player’s agent.
As far as non rookies and non RFAs now that you mentioned it may not be possible you could very well be correct. In fact I don’t recall this being done by team with a non rookie or non free agent.
I think if you want to teach your Big people to dance around the three point arc like fairies and shoot jumpers while actively trying NOT to rebound or defend, you send them to Europe to develop… ; )
Why Don’t They Send Solo Overseas Next Season? Playing a year or two in Europe will give him good experience and the Raptors will know more about his potential.
D-League, Raptors bench or Europe. – I vote for Europe.
In Soccer you can ‘loan’ players out as rentals… If this was feasible (say by stretching out the next CBA rules or what-have-you..) then this would be a great way of:
a) maturing your talent elsewhere,
b) dealing with salary and cap issues somehow (once the league decides the rules);
c) a great way to ‘ditch’ an underperforming asset (also see ‘maturing your talent elsewhere’).
For instance Bargnani and Kleiza would be ideal ‘loan’ type players for next season…
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nice read
My question is is weems in the teams future plans. When you mentioned julian just by reading the comments it doesn’t seem to me he’ll be back but as for sonny I wonder. I for one hope he comes back I said it a lot of times during the season when demar and sonny play together on the court they play well. Keeping a young core group together is important and I would love to see sonny back for the raps next season.
by sherwin316 on May 10, 2011 11:45 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Throughout the interview I got the vibe that the team wasn’t ready to let go of Weems just yet. Julian, yes, but Weems might have played himself into another cheap contract with the Raps thanks to his miserable season.
Also, there’s probably some merit in keeping Weems around, not just for his potential to rebound from last year, but also his ties to DeMar.
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by Adam Francis on May 10, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Could Be Some Merit To That
because of DeMar the Raptors may want Weems to hang around.
All that needs to be said is here:
“Until he’s (Wright) able to knock down that jump shot consistently, he’s going to have to find other ways to help the team. And we tried to do that at times, he’s a great defender, a great passer, I think he’s got a great feel for the game, but I think at times we struggled putting him on the floor because we had to find a way to have that position score and he struggled in that manner.”
“he needs to find other ways to help the team”…. and then proceeds to say he’s a great defender, great passer and has a great feel for the game? Those aren’t other ways to help a team? Oh yeah never mind… he doesn’t have a jumpshot, and that really the only thing that helps a team…….
This just goes to show the mindset of this current system… offense, jump shot, offense, jump shot. Guy can defend? How could that possibly help the worst defensive team in the league….
I agree with Sherwin316… as soon as I started reading that part on Wright you can tell the chances of him returning are slim.
by Not so Friendly Stranger on May 10, 2011 2:46 PM EDT reply actions
+ 1
Totally agree. Again, another example of the myopic, narrow-minded view that is pervasive throughout the Raptors’ organization. That being, that jump shooting and offense are the only real skills/attribute that hold any value in the game of basketball. It’s a flawed philosophy and it starts at the top (ahem… BC).
He said ‘and we tried to do that at times’ – implying that they saw what else he was doing to help the team, and that they found that his offense was hurting the team more than his defense was helping it. He specifically outlines the reasons why he didn’t stay on the floor – he can’t score.
He didn’t say he couldn’t help the team with his defense – he said they thought he could, tried it, and they felt it wasn’t working.
by dhackett1565 on May 10, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I find it funny that folks around here are always knocking Bargs (and rightfully so) for being an offensive minded player who can’t defend, but fall in love with a player like Julian Wright, a solid defender who can’t score. I sense a double standard here.
couple things:
-usage
-payroll
-time on court
-worst defensive team in the league
If Wright was being paid 10 mil for the next 4 years, played 36 min a game, got the most usage and the team was the worst offensive team in the league. I guarantee the “haters” would be making just as big of a fuss.
He however makes a portion of that salary, barely sees the floor, and this teams problem is defensve not offense.
Don’t want to be harsh here, but one thing people need to remember is that the “haters” issue with Bargs come from how much ‘influence’ he has on the team. If he was in Julian Wrights shoes, and this teams problems were he opposite they were now, I guarantee there wouldn’t be more than a whimper made about Bargnani.
by Not so Friendly Stranger on May 11, 2011 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough
I agree with what you are saying. I just think it is funny that people are acting like JW was done some sort of diservice while he was here and that it will be some great tragedy when he leaves. He was glued to the bench for much of the second half of the season because we had better all-around players ahead of him in James Johnson and Sonny Weems. I think too much is being made of his defensive “prowess”. He isn’t exactly a defensive stopper. Both johnson and Weems are also capable defenders and have more polished offensive games. As well, his little fit during our game against Golden State tells me his attitude isn’t the greatest either.
I can honestly say that while James Johnson has been a better player, weems was terrible after the first month or so.
I also though Wright played quite well when given the opportunity, but was never rewarded for it.
Wright isn’t going to be a star/all-star type player. Likely not a regular starter on a team. But he deserved minutes… at the very least until Johnson got here. Considering how poorly this team did, it couldn’t have hurt.
by Not so Friendly Stranger on May 11, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
but sorry
more to the point… it was that while Wright does have his limitations (that I’m not questioning) its just how the organization more or less viewed things.
Offense (and not even efficient offense at that) was/is priority everything else was unnecessary. And I think his quote (Eric Hughes) more or less summed that up.
by Not so Friendly Stranger on May 11, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Everything else is unnecessary, based on his quote? Seriously?
He stated that they needed SOME offense from specifically the position he played. He could not provide that, and they felt that what he did provide (defense, rebounding, passing) was helpful but not enough so that the scoring deficiency at the 3 was overcome. This is how he put it. You may disagree with how much the coaching staff thought Wright was helping/hurting the team, but in no way did Hughes express that offense was the only priority.
You are tainting his comments with your own point of view, rather than using his comments as proof of reality.
by dhackett1565 on May 11, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
again:
“Until he’s (Wright) able to knock down that jump shot consistently, he’s going to have to find other ways to help the team. And we tried to do that at times, he’s a great defender, a great passer, I think he’s got a great feel for the game, but I think at times we struggled putting him on the floor because we had to find a way to have that position score and he struggled in that manner."
great defender – great passer- great feel for the game….. BUT struggled putting him on the floor because the Raps had to find a way to have that position (sf) score… yet there are 2 priority scorers ahead of him (Bargs and Derozan) +Barbossa, +Bayless, +Kleiza, +Weems, +Jose, +Amir. Why can’t this team have a guy who’s priority it is to defend? Why does a back up SF have to be a scorer?
He may not EXPLICITLY be saying it… but its pretty clear whats going on. If you can’t score well or shoot a jumper well… you have little use to us.
Again THE WORST defensive team in the league 2 years running… one of the better offensive teams in the league 2 years running… is saying a “great defender” was a problem, because he didn’t jumpshoot well enough. Great passer. Great feel for the game. But wasn’t a good jump shooter. When have you ever heard them say the opposite? “Oh this guy is a good jumpshooter, but he can’t play D or pass the ball…..”?
Kleiza, Weems, Derozan…. sure sounds like the other wings on this team.
Anywyas don’t believe me… but the last 2 years should speak for themselves.
by Not so Friendly Stranger on May 11, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know why you jump to this conclusion being the mindset of the coaches.
Could it not simply be that they felt his offense hurt more than his defense helped? Perhaps they felt that his overall impact (because of his offensive problems) was simply not as good as those wings ahead of him? Perhaps you disagree with how they determine overall impact, but I think it’s hardly fair to say “Oh, he can’t shoot, so he never had a chance” when clearly, based on this interview, they gave him a chance and he didn’t do good enough for them.
How about this: let’s say playing DeRozan for development reasons was a priority – based on this, the wing next to him needs to be able to knock down open jumpers and preferably threes, because they want DeRozan to work on his drive game. Having Wright on the floor allows other teams to collapse and force DeRozan to be a jump-shooter. Sometimes it’s not as simple as “Offense = good, yay!” Is this not a more reasonable possibility? Isn’t this one of many more reasonable possibilities than your suggestion?
by dhackett1565 on May 11, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
"I don’t know why you jump to this conclusion being the mindset of the coaches"
Worst defense in the league 2 years running.
Top 6 jumpshooting team in the league (as mentioned by Jay earlier)
“knock down that jump shot consistently, he’s going to have to find other ways to help the team. And we tried to do that at times, he’s a great defender, a great passer, I think he’s got a great feel for the game, but…”
what exactly am I jumping to there? reality?
I’m not saying every single coach believes this or that… but this organization has done this for years now. Hughes just managed to unintentionally wrap it all up in a paragraph about Wright.
by Not so Friendly Stranger on May 11, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
When Wright Was With the Hornets
one of the writers that covered them did an advanced stat analysis of Wright playing at PF vs SF. The result of the stat showed that Wright played a lot better at PF than SF.
Just saying.
Like Hakim Warrick, for example. Maybe Wright needs to go to a small ball team like the Warriors or Suns to be effective.
its going to kill me when JWright blooms on another team...
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