Tip-In: Raptors Finish Preseason 0 - 2
It's only two preseason games, but the HQ's Scott Campsall notes that the Dinos have some major work to do at both ends of the floor before they're ready to fully compete this season.
Your Toronto Raptors officially went 0-2 in the preseason after dropping their second consecutive game to the Boston Celtics 81-73. The game was not as close as the score indicated, and was over by the half when the Raptors trailed 47-31; the second half simply provided the Raptors some practice against a Celtics lineup that was largely composed of bench players and rookies.
The game itself was more of what Raptors fans have become accustomed to in the last couple of years; Andrea Bargnani scored an inefficient 20 points and grabbed only 4 rebounds, the Raptors gave up 52% percent shooting in the first half, before the Celtics decided to rest their starters, not much defence was played, etc, etc. In other words, the Raptors followed the same script of seasons past, only this time they also struggled from the floor, shooting a combined 32%.
The Celtics top five on the night got off to a great start, including an 8-0 run right out of the gate. This was due in to in large part to Jerryd Bayless's unwillingness to guard Rondo from 20 feet out, a trend which continued throughout the game.
Another issue for the Raptors defense was their inability to handle the Celtics bigs out on the perimeter. Kevin Garnett, Brandon Bass and even Greg Stiemsma-The hero for the Celtics on Sunday-took advantage of the porous Raptors defense, knocking down open jumpers as well as taking the ball to the basket off of the dribble.
There were moments in the game, particularly towards the end of the first half, where the Dinos showed some flashes on the defensive end of the floor. Unfortunately, the effort and success just wasn't there for the majority of the game.
Point guard play was another problem on this night. Jose Calderon and Jerryd Bayless combined for 5 assists, 5 turnovers and shot a combined 6-22. Neither player looked particularly sharp, nor played with the competitiveness that you would expect out of a couple of players vying for a starting point guard spot in the NBA. With the way both of these guards are playing, we may see Anthony Carter starting at the 1 come opening day.
What was most noticeable for the Dinos offensively was their lack of shooting prowess which really stagnated their offensive flow. As noted, the Raps shot 32 % from the floor and were a whopping 6% on 1-17 shooting from behind the arc. The glaring lack of shooting will continue to be a problem for the team this year, and is a reason we may end up seeing Gary Forbes take the starting role over James Johnson.
Speaking of James Johnson, he is slowly becoming one of the most polarizing players on this team. Defensively Johnson played extremely well, tallying 5 steals and 2 blocks as well as providing some solid on the ball defense. He also grabbed eight rebounds and did a good job acting as a point forward, pushing the break on a number of occasions. However, offensively he set the team back with his inability to make a jumpshot (0-7) and erratic play attacking the baskets which lead to his 4 turnovers.
As we have argued in this space before, Johnson is going to have to make jumpshots in order to stay in this lineup, but he is arguably their best defensive player, which is a focal point being preached by this organization to anybody who will listen. The way in which Johnson's season shakes down will be an interesting subplot to this campaign, and certainly something to watch as this team continues to pile up the losses.
As far as the offense is concerned, the Raps have some work to do because shooting 32% simply isn't going to cut it. Casey has stated that the focus is practice thus far has been on defense, and rightfully so, but he might want to consider putting in a couple offense sets after what we witnessed from the Raptors last night.
In the end, holding the Celtics to 80 points and 39% shooting will look good on paper, but this team has a lot of work to do if they hope to put up those numbers against teams in the regular season.
The veiled optimism, with which the first game was met by most, is slowly dissipating after the way the Toronto played last night against the Boston starters. This season is going to be a tough one, with a number of ups and downs and last night was certainly a down, yet it will be important to remember that this is a young team and things won't turn around in one day. As the saying goes, "Rome wasn't built in a day."
Colangelo has said this is a "building" season for the Raptors, yet seeing the way the Raptors performed last night against the Celtics, Toronto may be doing a little less "building" and a little more rebuilding this season still.
SCOTT CAMPSALL
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it is the offense
I could not see the game as it still is ot available broadband…but I was reading the play by play live.
The missed shots were screaming out from the computer.
Were the Celtics laughing after awhile?
I would be!
And Gray given 2 fouls in 2 minute!
Please…tell me…you saw the game.
Were Grays 2 fouls in 2 minutes really refs trying to play with the game again?
I watched Howard play last night and his fouls were totally ignored by the refs!
Ican’t look forward to watching this team with shooting percentages this low!
They weren’t defending that well…we just sucked?
And what is with our power foward shooting such ahorrid percentage and still no rebounds in the first half?
WHERE were the rebounds last night?
The Celtics starters absolutely locked down the rim.
It was ridiculous, even when they looked beat, they got fingertip blocks from behind.
Outside of Bargnani and Davis with a few dunks, the Raps were completely reliant on shotmaking.
With no barbosa either, I can’t think of anyone getting to the rim.
It’s interesting but for all of DeMar’s athleticism, his ball handling still makes it tough for him to be a legit option off the bounce. James Johnson isn’t that guy either so that leaves Bayless and Barbosa almost exclusively.
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by Adam Francis on Dec 22, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
you can lock down the inside IF
the outside is safe from shots!
If you can’t it anything from outside, they will laways give it to you and just clog the inside.
Last year we all knew at New Orleans without a hot SG…NOBODY could get open inside.
You simply need somebody at shooting guard that strikes fear in the hearts of defenders.
All of a sudden your centers look great…but ONLY because of the outside threat.
PRAY for the guards to start hitting, or it will be a horrid season under the basket.
I find it interesting
that Toronto gets credit (and not necessarily in this post but in the general media) for playing such good defense in their two preseason games. Its easy to look at Boston’s fg% and say “he they held them to under 40% shooting”.
At the same time Toronto’s offense gets torn apart, because they shot less than 40%. But shouldn’t Boston get credit for such good defense?
Or if Toronto’s problems on offense aren’t directly related to Boston’s D, could Boston’s poor offense also not be related to Toronto’s D?
Ofcourse then you factor in Toronto is already playing their ‘sure starters’ 30+ minutes and half the game is against Boston’s “who won’t be here this season” bench…..
Could this season end up being worse then was even imagined? A putrid offense backed up by a ‘hard working’ but incapable defense? All while playing at a slow pace….
Exciting times for the next 4 months
by Not so Friendly Stranger on Dec 22, 2011 8:34 AM EST reply actions
That’s what sucks about a two-game one-team preseason – all the variables are constant for both teams, rather than just for your own team. If you faced 6 to 8 different teams like most preseasons, the only constant is yourself, and you can draw conclusions from that. This time around, we know nothing except how we match up against the Celtics.
by dhackett1565 on Dec 22, 2011 9:17 AM EST up reply actions
When you miss open shots
you cannot blame the opponent. This problem was so obvious and so wide spread that I wondered whether those guys just had a weight lifting session. Then, once your opponent knows you cannot make a shot to save your life, all needs to be done is to collapse into the paint and stay put. So they did.
and Boston
didn’t miss open shots? Was Toronto ‘good’ D because they were always in Boston’s face, keeping them out of the paint, forcing contested shots?
Toronto isn’t exactly stocked with shooters. There is no doubt about that. But is Boston’s bench, and deep bench, a bunch of shooters who were stopped by the Raps D?
by Not so Friendly Stranger on Dec 22, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
Having watched the game in an hour, there was a bit of both. The Raps did miss a lot of open looks however Boston’s D at the start, did have a big hand in it. The worrisome part for me was when Doc put his second and third units in, and the Raps still struggled even with less defensive intensity present.
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by Adam Francis on Dec 22, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
offense a little complicated
and new, according to the coach.
Remember, the Celtics have had their coach and their plays and their players around for some time.
The Raptors not so.
I am hoping, and really confident, this team will gel.
It will learn the plays with new teammates and caches.
It will begin to trust.
I STILL say we cannot see this team as anything close to ready until the second or third week of the season.
Everybody knows cetain teams with a set bench have it over all others THIS season due to the lockout.
Beath deep.
Relax…and pray for shooting!
You will NEVER get inside shots until they think you can hit the outside shot.
This is as old as a truth basketball itsel.f
forgive my spelling...
recovering from a stroke a few years back and the typing thing is really not getting there…yet!
Well, it looks like our next draft pick might be fairly high
This season sure looks bleak. I can’t see us winning more than 15 games and looking around the league that might put us last. Which gives us a chance to have two young future stars coming in next year in JV and (?) whoever we pick.
If those two new draft picks become stars in the NBA and Ed Davis joins them, then we have a core group of three players who are all under 22 years old and can be impact players in this league. And out of all our other assets, hopefully we can add two more players through trades, salvage two (Demar and Amir? or Bayless) and then add one or two through free agency. That is the best blueprint for the future. But make no mistake, the future is not now. But make no mistake, the future hopefully arrives next year.
One of our two picks needs to be a all star player. JV or the next pick or Ed, one of those three guys needs to raise the bar. Bosh was great, one of those three or all of those three can be better than Bosh. One of them needs to be better for us to get a ring. Fingers crossed.
We are taking our medicine and it sucks, but it should work. We need to draft a top player next year. When you hear names like Paul, Kobe, Howard, Dirk, Griffin and so on you think top tier players. Toronto needs some of it’s own. Vince is not my favourite person, but when he was here and playing well he helped make us relevant. People wanted to see the Raptors play and we need to first get back to be relevant and then rise up and get a ring.
Draft order not yet determined
imo there are five or six other teams that are gonna struggle as well. And injuries, ping pong balls
We have what appears to be an ace in the hole(or in Europe) coming over next season and cap flexibility. That alone is something to look forward to.
I’m hoping top 10 pick in 2012, just so I won’t be disappointed. Any higher(er.. lower) is gravy.
Just gotta say I hear a lotta negativity hear, but we need to forget about the past. There is a new plan and we all seem to agree it is the right way to proceed. Why after two meaningless games against a tougher, deeper team do we seem to be forgetting it? Read the manifesto – we are proceeding as planned.


























