Raptors' Rapid Recap - Boston Celtics 76 - Toronto Raptors 75
-The NBA 2011-12 season kicked off this afternoon at the Air Canada Center for the Toronto Raptors, as they took on the Boston Celtics in preseason action. Unfortunately the team started off this season, the way they ended the last, with a loss, as Boston squeaked out a 76 to 75 victory.
-However it wasn't for lack of effort. A missed jumper and an Andrea Bargnani put-back that wouldn't fall was the difference in this one between a Raptors' win and loss. And considering the Raptors' showed some very positive signs regarding a new defensive identity, holding the C's to under 40 per cent from the field, this was a pretty solid first match for the Dinos. The emphasis on D was apparent throughout and even Andrea Bargnani got in on the action.
-Speaking of Bargnani, his 4 of 14 shooting performance on the afternoon was all too familiar however the rest of his game, was not. He got to the line seven times, (Toronto as a whole only had 13 foul shots on the afternoon), hauled down 8 rebounds, and looked much better defensively on rotations and getting out on his man. It's one game, but I think Raptors' boosters would be pretty happy if they could get a performance like this from Bargs on a regular basis
-And Andrea wasn't the only one chucking up bricks for the Raps. The team as a whole hit only 38 per cent from the field, and Jerryd Bayless, Ed Davis and DeMar DeRozan were the only other players who scored in double figures. Davis and Amir Johnson though stood out at both ends and it will be interesting to see how Dwane Casey uses then this season. Bayless and Jose Calderon nearly split minutes in this one (24 and 21 respectively) and both had some nice plays in addition to questionable decisions, especially in regard to passing. The Raps in fact had 21 turnovers however with this being the first game of the season technically, we probably shouldn't be surprised.
-Boston was led by usual suspects such as Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett but Marquis Daniels also chipped in some big baskets in Paul Pierce's absence. And Doc Rivers made sure his youngsters got lots of run, leaving players like E'Twaun Moore and Greg Stiesma in to finish this one off.
-Toronto now has a few days to brush up on their offensive execution, something that definitely needs a boost based on the game's final play. The Raptors' last shot-attempt while down one with seconds left, failed to result in much of a good look, even though DeMar DeRozan did get in a desperation heave, and as mentioned, Andrea Bargnani had a put-back attempt as well.
-When the buzzer sounded it marked an 0 and 1 preseason record for Toronto, but it was a refreshing effort on D, and hey...it was good to finally get to see some Raptors' basketball wasn't it?
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agreed
I would add, Forbes looked very promising and DD looked better as well both on D and O. He seems to have worked on his 3 pt shooting and he was more aware and aggressive on D.
JJ and Forbes could be a solid and complimentary pairing at the 3. I know it is early, but sometimes you just wanna believe and right now, I believe he could be a solid starting 3 in the NBA and JJ could be a defensive stopper who backs him up.
Ed, Amir, Jonas and AB could be a solid frontcourt.
Jose, Bayless, DD and #1 draft pick could be a solid guard situation
Good game and good summary.
well....what's with the outside shooting??
I having NOT been a Raptors viewers until this year am surprised to see the horrid outside shooting.
Well, I didn’t see it since I had no view…but listened live and watched the box score.
Was this normal?
Were the players intimidated by the Cs?
I don’t care WHO you have in the middle…IF your players are 4 for 14, 2 for 8, 0 for 4…whatever…it ain’t gonna happen inside!
AND LOTS OF THE MADE SHOTS CAME AT GARBAGE TIME, AS DID MANY OF THE BETTER STATS.
The Celtics played their 2nd and 3rd string when our run began!
I was struck silly by the praises during our comeback during the live blogs! It was against their bench!!!
I hope we gel soon this week!
Dude, you are the voice of reason. Let me “officially” welcome you here in the comments.
Because yeah, our starters mounted a comeback against the 3rd stringers of a team that’s being maligned for its lack of depth. Ummmm, excuse me if I don’t view today’s result as a sign that things are changing anytime before 2012-13.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Dec 18, 2011 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
Change
Yes we lost, and we were not as good as Boston even without Pierce.
We only came back against their backups, agreed. We are not a good team. Agreed. We will lose a lot of games this year and hopefully get a high draft pick, agreed.
But we played D and our offence sucked. That is a change. AB tried harder on D. That is a change. DD was 2 for 2 from 3.
We will not even start to be a winning team in the NBA until next year at the earliest. And we should be waiting to really start winning until next year so we get a top 5 pick again this year.
What type of team are JV and 2012 Draft pick joining next fall? I hope it is one with huge Defensive intensity and youth and not at all like the Triano era.
People are just happy that Casey’s changes are apparent immediately. We are not good but we are different. And after last year, different sounds pretty good.
Maybe the excitement can be put in simple terms; “The Jay Triano era is dead in Toronto, bring on Mr. Casey.” But it’s too early to know anything, we just saw hints of change and when you suck, change is usually good and it doesn’t happen overnight.
by defensive rap on Dec 18, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
+1
Definitely saw some good things today. I don’t know if things will continue to change for the better, but there’s a clearly difference between Casey’s team and Triano’s. When’s the last time you saw Bargnani crash the boards? James Johnson played like he cared. Long losing streaks will change all that, but I hope the culture of the team is toughening up.
by the way...where is the live banter????
where is the best live stream discussion for the games?
I love bantering and cannot find the Raptor’s sights…
Please advise asap!
from thibs game
I take home that I hope never to have to watch a game from an unofficial feed. It is shameful the official nba feed does not cover pre season
really!
and I pay for broadband nba and can’t get preseason games?!
it was on cable tv
Fav fighters - Machida, Faber, Koch, Hominick, Pettis, Hardy, Stout, Cerrone and killer Cain
"I'm so fast that, last night, I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark." - Ali
not
if you are in Europe, that is why we pay NBA broadband
my bad lol
Fav fighters - Machida, Faber, Koch, Hominick, Pettis, Hardy, Stout, Cerrone and killer Cain
"I'm so fast that, last night, I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark." - Ali
ed davis looked awsome
Fav fighters - Machida, Faber, Koch, Hominick, Pettis, Hardy, Stout, Cerrone and killer Cain
"I'm so fast that, last night, I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark." - Ali
did that 3d baseline paint trip anyone else out all game?
Fav fighters - Machida, Faber, Koch, Hominick, Pettis, Hardy, Stout, Cerrone and killer Cain
"I'm so fast that, last night, I turned off the light switch in my hotel room and was in bed before the room was dark." - Ali
Raptors talked about chaning the culture and last season (including preseason), they held a team to 76 points once. If they consistently give the effort they will be better defensively.
This line was interesting, “A missed jumper and an Andrea Bargnani put-back that wouldn’t fall was the difference in this one between a Raptors’ win and loss.” Not a DD missed jumper and Bargnani put back that wouldn’t fall. Two people missed chances but only one is singled out and while everyone complains about 4-14, he had 9 rebounds (check the box score), a block and got to the line 7 times, and played better defence. Isn’t that what people wanted?
Anyways, is it just me or is the Raptors wing position a complete disaster. After DD we have Butler, Forbes, Johnson, Barbosa (combo guard) and Kleiza.
Biggest argument against AB, Ed Davis looks like he could be a star. Long and athletic, alot stronger, lefty and a great motor on him. Really looks like he could replace Chris Bosh and already better on the D end than AB, him n JV could really be the frontcourt of the future. Really hope his improved fitness translates into more games on the court.
Gray and Magloire seemed to be big bodies but not too much else.
Jose and Bayless came as advertised. Bayless seems best suited for a Crawford role of 6th man, and to get a green light when he comes in the game.
Waiting on Amir cause of the ankle but I don’t know how the Raps lineup will work if Davis keeps developing (and that is a focus for the team). They seem to be committed to AB, JV and Davis, where does that leave Amir?
AB had a solid game, for him anyway but lets not start sucking each others popsicles just yet. Lets see him put that kind of effort out every night as there were a few times last night where he looked like he was losing interest on D.
Anyone who thought adding Magloire and Gray was going to solidify the center position missed the point which was that neither of them are a danger to become sudden stars at the position. They are caretakers and cheap, nothing more.
As for the comments on the teams defense, I am a little leery about doling out praise consider it is the first pre-season game after a longer than average absence. I would love to give them praise for the effort but it is hard to tell if they were “on” or Boston was just way “off”.
You need four big men
I think four big men can work. Even Gray as a fifth guy and used sparingly could work. The issue becomes if we like all four and keep them all, does that mean we can’t draft a big next year? Or do we pick one up and then move one of the 5? Could we really be discussing that we have too many big men?
is that happening
because we will let Valanciunas play pg?
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We’re back in business!!!! 1st game in way too many months…..The shooting was bad, and the coordination was kinda terrible…but i kinda expected that. Actually the team shot decent from 3 point range (7-19 for 36.8%). Compared to last season that is solid. With the exception of AB not much from the line today.
Defence looked great——→ in random spurts throughout the game. After awhile it just looked like they were over matched. Suddenly they go from putting pressure in the passing lanes and Blocking shots to Garnett getting open looks at the top of the key and Marquis Daniels slipping behind everyone to get the easy lay in.
I really can’t complain though, I was generally quite happy with the effort that the entire squad put in. I be happy to see if we can continue this trend, while also picking up our offense. Love to see the Raptors back on the floor…..gonna take a while for me to get used to seeing Forbes lol…I see that beard and im like why is Amir camped out in the corner??? haha I hope for another fun season, lets make it happen my fellow HQ members :P
ps. Got tickets to the home opener!!! So Excited!! :)
I didn't see the entire game
but I agree with the above for the most part. The ‘good defense’ was definetely in spurts. It started out intense and lost alot along the way. By the end it was the Raptors starters vs the Boston Celtics ‘who do we cut to make space’ team. Ofcourse its a no ‘win’ situation there…you can’t do anything that looks ‘positive’ and only look ‘negative’.
Ofcourse it being the first preseason game after a week of practice (for both teams) makes so much of those 48 minutes mean so little
by Not so Friendly Stranger on Dec 18, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
A Nice start
And that’s all it should be.
- If I was handing out awards, I’d give Davis the “mini” MVP – on account it was the best 20 minutes out there. I don’t know if Ed will become an All-Star, but if he could put up 14 – 9/10 most nights, it will help Raptors become post-season bound – and beyond.
- Andrea played how one would hope a Casey inspired effort comes to fruition. A “first” … an enjoyable first – although one has to be reminded it’s just that. For the most part, it’s a glass that’s half full, that we hope Casey can haul out the mojo – and make things happen.
- Demar seemed off to me – although his two – 3 Pointers caught my attention. They were nice clean shots. We need that – considering our stat there. – 11 needs to be better.
- Still haven’t changed my mind about the Jose/Jarryd debate. If anything it reinforced my perspective, although again – it was only one game.
- Some people sighed that the 4th quarter featured opponent Scrubs – forgetting that both Derozan & Bargnani played 32 minutes, while the very fresh Scrubs barely outlasted a 10 point collapse. Reality is, the Raptors played the whole game with Scrubs. lol
- While I’m on the Scrub thought ……. These guys can run circles around me. They make a million or more. Can’t figure out why they’re called scrubs. What does that make me?
- Amir is really f#@king big – and yet can still move. If he can stay healthy he’ll do well. Every time he fell though, I cringed. That aside – and with these crazy Centre salaries – we may find AJ’s contract an absolute bargain. With the shortage of quality defenders in the NBA, BC might find himself being approached on a regular basis. Especially as the trade deadline counts down. .
- Forbes – I like this guy. I liked him since I saw that first interview. Could be a piece going forward.
- Barbosa. The Blur suits him – he’s still fast. Trouble is, his shooting sights can be a blur as well.
- Johnson – good hustle … still somewhat out-of-control. Is that a symptom of a first game, or have we just lowered our aim.
- Scoring- I’m a bit nervous on this one. Hate to see us drop opponent scoring by 5 – 8 points, and see offense lose most of that. I do believe DD & AB’s efg% will rise – it’s the scoring elsewhere (Davis excepted), that could be a concern.
- Grey – Magloire – Butler ….. meh …. next game.
- Casey – considering it was only a week, it’s the first game, and this IS the Toronto Raptors – I have to give the game ball to the Dwayner.
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It’s only one preseason game, but about the only player I’d give a positive mark to would be Davis. Bargnani certainly had the effort, and his defense was improved, but it was still far from good. DeRozan’s defense was about at the same level. Amir played pretty well, but needs to get in shape after his surgery in the offseason, Bayless looked like he most definitely is not going to be part of the Raptors future and the fact the team couldn’t beat the Celtics DEEP bench in crunch time tells me a top 5 pick is almost a sure thing.
Again, it’s only one preseason game, so I take all that with a grain of salt.
Still, it was damn nice to be seeing some Raptors basketball again.
Tim W.
The Picket Fence
not only it is a preseason game
it comes just after a week of training camp. Even pretending this was a game they plaid to win you need to use your pinch of salt and focusing on the lone week of training which has impacted more the raps than the celts who have had a system (and the same core personnel) in place since 2007




























