Missing Chris Bosh Part I - Who Replaces Bosh's Scoring Next Season?
After digging deep into the defensive end of the court last week, the HQ this week looks at the other side; the offence. One that will be missing a certain number 4 this upcoming season...
On Sunday I posted the question "who is the face of the Raptors next season?", and some 550 plus votes later, it looks like most think Andrea will be the main man, followed closely by the Young Gunz contingent.
Andrea actually gathered a solid 44% of the vote and therefore it would seem that our sample of Raptors' fans expect him to step up in the absence of the one and only Chris Bosh.
Who?
Oh yeah, that guy that averaged 24 points, 11 rebounds, a block, and nearly 2 and a half assists a game last season for the team.
The guy who for his career has shot almost 50% from the field and 80% from the free throw line, and who has had five consecutive All-Star appearances, not to mention an All-NBA Second Team berth and various other individual NBA and international accolades.
No sweat.
So let's get this out of the way first; the Toronto Raptors are going to miss Chris Bosh.
I'm not talking about just on the court either, he was a huge presence in the community and an ardent fan and supporter of the city, regardless of how he "exited stage left."
But for this article, I want to focus on the court stuff, the basketball part of the equation, because that's what most fans will really notice next season. Without number 4, there looks to be some big holes in Toronto's game plan and so my question for today is really, "can the holes left by Bosh be filled by any of the current Raptors?"
This quesiton is going to be answered in three parts; today's piece, where we look at replacing Bosh's offensive output specifically, and then two following pieces this week examing some of the other skills and traits Bosh brought to the table, and some of the metrics behind his absence.
Today though as mentioned, we'll start with the strength that I think jumps out to most fans when you think of Chris; his scoring.
"We've tried over the years to put big guys on him. It doesn't work. We've tried to put small guys on him. It doesn't seem to work either. I don't know if we have somebody to play Bosh, to tell you the truth."
That quote was from Pacer's coach Jim O'Brien regarding CB4, and I thought that was a good way to jump into replacing what's obviously his best trait; his offensive excellence.
Chris Bosh simply was a great scorer at his position, perhaps the best in the league from the 4 spot behind only Dirk Nowitzki. He could face you up, take you off the bounce with his quickness, and in his final few seasons as a Raptor, developped some deadly low-post moves including a step-back fade-away from about 10 feet on either side of the basket. Add in a 3-point shot that he started to hit regularly (36% last year, not bad for a power forward) and the fact that he's a lefty, so always a bit of a tough cover to start with, and you've got one pretty well-rounded offensive threat.
So who steps up and replaces 24 points a game?
The obvious first thought is Andrea, who, at 17 points a game himself last year, seems able to surpass the 20 point per game barrier this year as the go-to option on O.
However it's a big leap I'd argue to say he'll get to 24 points a game. Remember, this is a player who already averaged 35 minutes a game last year. Bosh only averaged 36 minutes so the key for Andrea will be to become a more effecient scorer in his time on the court. Even if Bargs gets up to 38 minutes a game, the number on average that Bosh played the year before last, 24 is still a reach in my books.
As well, we're talking about a player who really strugged with consistency, and minus Bosh, wasn't even the dominant offensive threat at times last year.
Take Toronto's final six games minus Bosh as a an example.
In them, Andrea led the team in scoring outright only once, and in two others tied for the team lead. He did average 20 points over those six contests (19.67 points a game) but that's still about four points a game that's not being filled next year assuming that mark is extrapolated over to this coming season.
And therein lies another issue with Bosh's absence - even if Andrea replaces the bulk of Chris' scoring, who then replaces Andrea's 17 points per game average?
Turk's gone as well, leaving another 11 per game that also needs to be filled.
Essentially, to have a similar offensive output as last season, something I think that will be critical considering how poor this team probably still will be defensively, the team needs to make up approximately 30 points a game each time they step on the court assuming Andrea replaces 20 of Bosh's 24 ppg average.
So where does that come from?
Looking at the new faces in Toronto, I'd say Linas Kleiza is the best bet to pick up some of this scoring slack.
He averaged 16 points per game over a 36 min average in Denver and if you've been watching him at the FIBA World's, he can fill it up. He won't be getting 36 minutes I night next season I don't expect, but I'd pencil him in for 12 a night.
Leandro Barbosa has also had a great FIBA tourney and is another player who should come in and grab some of the scoring, I'd say probably 10 points a game off the bench in a reserve role.
That leaves about 8 points per game to make up, and unfortunately, that's about where it ends for me.
I think DeRozan perhaps eats into a bit of that "8" margin, but he and Sonny Weems are the true wild cards here in this respect. If you needed evidence regarding how much the team needs these two to take their games to the next level this coming season, then look no further than here.
DeRozan averaged about 9 points per game in 21 minutes of action and Weems wasn't far behind, averaging 8 points per game in about 20 minutes. If these two can increase their scoring output with only minimal increases in minutes, then maybe that's where the final 8 or so points comes from. Because I just don't expect players like Julian Wright or Ed Davis to come in and really move the pendelum in this respect.
And what maybe needs to be pointed out the most in this whole discussion, is that for this team to adequately replace Bosh's 24 points per game, someone needs to make up his free-throw attempts.
Last season he averaged 8.4 attempts from the line and the next closest player on Toronto in this respect was Hedo Turkoglu, who averaged a measley 3.1.
He's gone too leaving Jarrett Jack and Andrea Bargnani with 2.9 each.
Yikes.
We'll talk more later this week about the impact this metric might have on the team strategy-wise but this is something that needs to be emphasized; for Toronto to have success on the offensive end of the court, someone needs to be able to consistently get to the line next year.
Maybe that's Weems and/DeRozan, but I'm looking at the "Big Rook" now entering his fifth season as the real top option in this respect. Three trips a game just ain't gonna cut it and if he wants to get to that Dirk Nowitzkish level, he's gotta get to the charity stripe at least 6 or 7 times a match. (Dirk averaged 7.2 trips to the line a game last season.)
Can he do it?
I'm just not confident unfortunately and overall I think we'll see a Toronto team that got to the line 2118 times last season, get there a lot less than that this coming year.
And that's a problem considering that even last season Toronto averaged fewer trips to the stripe than their opponent on average.
To me, the majority of Bosh's 24 points per game might be able to filled, but his ability to get to the free-throw line (and convert) will be sorely missed and we're going to see a very 2005-06ish Raptors squad next season; one that made their free-throws when they got a chance to shoot them, but had very few opportunities at the line each game.
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Great article
Really stepping up your game recently with a lot of great in-depth analysis.
A couple things:
1) One important difference between Bosh and Bargs last year wasn’t their minutes played, but their usage percentage. Ignoring the effect of usage on efficiency (a dangerous thing to do, but we don’t have much to work with here) – an increase in usage should mean an increase in scoring per minute. Bosh had a USG% of 28.7, and Bargs had 22.3%. Projecting up to that percentage gives Bargs 22 points per game. Plus, Bosh had a great second option in Bargs – don’t know if the Raps currently have another player who deserves 22.3% of the possessions while they are on the floor. So Bargs’ usage may be even higher than Bosh’s was. So… a little optimism that he might actually be able to cover the 24 points.
2) I noticed you omitted Amir Johnson… He scored 6.2 PPG in 17.7 minutes last year. If he ups his minutes per game to 30, while keeping the same USG% and efficieny (any increase in USG and decrease in Efficiency should balance, roughly), he would score 10.5 PPG – which makes up for 4 of Bosh’s PPG as well. So DD and Weems would only need to increase by 4 points between the two of them.
3) Unfortunately, the players you listed as us losing isn’t quite the whole story. The Raps lost Marco (66 games), Wright (67 games), and Rasho (42 games) – which amounts to 5.7, 5.3, and 2 PPG – which is 13 PPG to make up. Maybe Wright, Davis, Andersen can make that up?
4) Here’s a biggie. Bosh played 70 games last year. If he had scored 24 PPG in 82 games, his impact on the offense would have been greater than if he only played 70. So he effectively contributed 20.5 PPG over the entire season. This depends on what you want to compare this coming season to: last season as a whole, or last season with Bosh in the lineup.
Great work as usual dhack – comments:
1) I was going to dig into usage tomorrow but you’re right, that’s an important factor here. However when I gave the usage stats a look early this morning, I thought the two were much closer than that, maybe I was looking at the wrong years or something though.
2) I did omit Amir…full disclosure, had to get to work and ran out of time to touch on him so figured we would discuss in the comments. He could be a major factor in my books in two areas here; the first, scoring as you noted, but also I think in the free-throw realm. He’s so athletic and automatic around the rim on lobs and screen-and-rolls, that his increased usage should help with the free-throw issue…but that’s an article for another day.
3) Thought about those other guys, but I do think that the newbies will offset their loss in production.
4) Last point, huge, and something I never thought of. A healthy Bosh who plays out the season probably has a bigger impact on O and you could argue then that this then ups the offensive load that needs to be replaced. It might be interesting to look at the match-ups in the games he missed though because it could be possible to guesstimate how his PPG would have changed had he played. For instance Bosh traditionally doesn’t fare well against KG and the Celtics so maybe he only hits for 15 that night etc.
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Regarding Usage...
Raptors Republic had the numbers as follows:
“…the usage rate of Bargnani and Bosh is similar with Bosh having a slight edge – 25.0% to 22.5%. So Bargnani playing the way he did wasn’t a matter of the Raptors not involving him enough or not giving him enough opportunities to make his mark; it had to do with Bargnani choosing to play the way he did.”
That seems pretty close to me…
My numbers were from basketball-reference.com.
Here: http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/TOR/2010.html
In the advanced section, Bosh is listed as a 28.7% USG and Bargs is listed as 22.3%.
Oh, and even your ‘close’ percentages would mean the difference between 17.1 PPG and 19 PPG. Just FYI.
Oh, and another interesting tidbit on Amir – was ranked dead last on the team last year with a 14.5% usage.
The numbers at Raps Repub were the same ones I saw.
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by Adam Francis on Sep 7, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
1) Both MAS11’s Republic reference and you seem to have seen different numbers for Bosh (but oddly not for Bargs) – what is your source? I’ve been using basketball reference.
2) Well, I will look forward to that other day.
3) Fair.
4) That’ll be a lot of guesswork. Especially with some of the weak teams towards the end of the schedule – does Bosh put up his 17-18 points against those bad teams? Or does he score 35? Seemed like he was capable of either against bottom feeders last year and in years past, so I think it would be too much guesswork for very little return – those 12 games would be unlikely to change his per-games too much.
…however I took all my stats from this article from Basketball Reference…that’s my go-to spot for most articles.
On the fourth point dhack – yep, guesswork, but I think you could do an educated guess of sorts if you went through each game and factored in the context etc. Not perfect, but it would give you a some idea perhaps.
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by Adam Francis on Sep 7, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Team scoring
I suppose you may be discussing this in more detail in subsequent articles, but I wanted to bring up how much our offense is going to change without Bosh down low. Without Bosh drawing double teams to free up our shooters around the arc, there will be fewer open looks on the perimeter. That means fewer looks for Bargnani to light it up from outside.
I agree that much of our team’s success is tied to Weems and DeRozan (more specifically DeRozan). While we added some nice shooters (Barbosa and Kleiza), we need someone to draw the extra defender. If DeRozan can improve on creating offense for himself and use his slashing ability, our offense may not stagnate in the half-court. Also, gearing our offense to run more (Pace factor was 95.4 last year; 13th in league) to take advantage of our athletic ability should aid in generating more offense.
All in all, the point differential to make up is tied not only to making up Bosh’s scoring, but also his ability to create offense for others (both directly and indirectly). I also think you aren’t giving Barbosa very much credit at 10 ppg. He averaged that last year in a down year with injuries. Healthy and with an expanded role (our team sorely needs someone to create offense for himself) should return his scoring to around the low teens (~14 ppg).
I think the team’s success may hinge more on Weems than Derozan. When the team was falling apart last season, the one player to pick up his play was Sonny Weems. His bball IQ has shown to be quite good, but his skills were holding him back. Also factor in that he is in a contract year and seems to have gotten his off-court issues behind him for the most part – leads me to believe that he will be our biggest impact perimeter player.
Also, do not think about Barbosa’s scoring in terms of PPG. His shooting percentages were at or near a career low last year. If he does not remedy that, he will be useless no matter how many PPG he scores. He is the type of player who could very easily have another bad year – what do you do with a shooter/scorer with few other skills that can’t put one in? Also, he flourishes in the open court, he is not a creator in the half-court which is why Dragic has passed him.
Offensively, the two things we need to worry about are efficiency and offensive rebounding. As a general approximation for efficiency, we have TS% (turnovers not included).
NAME TS%
Amir Johnson 63.9
Marcus Banks 63.5
Jarrett Jack 59.9
Chris Bosh 59.2
Jose Calderon 56.9
DeMar DeRozan 55.4
Andrea Bargnani 55.2
Marco Belinelli 54.3
Hedo Turkoglu 54.0
Rasho Nesterovic 53.9
Patrick O’Bryant 53.9
Sonny Weems 53.3
Antoine Wright 50.2
Reggie Evans 49.8
Pops Mensah-Bonsu 46.0
If the idea is to maintain our offense from last year, we lost a high efficiency scorer and high usage player. Replacing him is more than replacing “24 ppg” – noone wants to see Reggie Evans get 24 PPG, because it would take all night and he would probably collapse of exhaustion. The objective is to maintain Bosh’s efficiency as we redistribute his shots, keeping in mind that we only had 3 guys who were near/above Bosh in TS% (one of whom was Marcus Banks).
Really good points here. It’s not only about replacing the points, it’s the efficiency, and Bosh was one of the most efficient offensive players in the league last season (especially when you factor in his usage rate, oportunities and lack of legitimate support to occupy the oponents defence).
While one can argue that others will pick up the slack this season in terms of increased scoring, I can’t see how it can be done at the level of efficiency Bosh did it last season.
I prefer to look at it based on efficiency rather than points because then you’re trying to hit a target and I find it not to be a very worthwhile exercise. Once you have a target in mind you start doing things like adding 4 points here, 2 points there, 8 points over there, etc… And then your projection comes in way over because you didn’t calculate in declines or were unrealistic because your team could not actually shoot enough to reach those targets (the only way to score more points on a fixed # of shots is to be more efficient).
Then there is the matter of pace and the fact that a team scoring 105 ppg is not necessarily better than one that scores 100 ppg. If you simply deal with efficiency, pace is made irrelevant.
More great points
You guys beat me to the punch but on Friday I wanted to talk about efficiency. Because you’re exactly right, it’s one thing to replace 24 points a game, it’s another to have someone who needs 34 shots to do it.
The example I was going to use was Allen Iverson vs. Ray Allen. Ray Allen in his prime would get you your 20 points, but possibly on only 10 or 11 shots. AI, even in his prime, might need 20 do get the job done.
Which guy would you rather have?
And that’s part of the problem with Bargs, he’s not a very efficient player for all the praise that’s heaped upon him…
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by Adam Francis on Sep 7, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Efficiency is the issue – that is why Team USA should never take guys like Iverson (career TS% .518). If he’s shooting, he’s hogging the ball and dragging your team’s efficiency to below-average while contributing little else. But on a team with defenders who can’t score (like the finalist 76ers), he’s a decent option.
The fouling rate has a lot to do with refs
Last year bosh was the man, he got the ball in iso situations, and got his share of respect calls… this year, who will get that from the refs? If they call these players like they did last year, the raps will be the lowest fouled team in history but I have a feeling a lot of the whistles will come regardless. It will be interesting to watch…
As far as replacing Bosh’s offence, I think it will happen… and it might just give us a new/(eventually)better look as the ball moves more. If there was something I doubted with Bosh it was his passing… it’s possible this will play out in our favour.
A couple of counter-points. This is just my recolection, but I often felt that Bosh got the calls he deserved. He generally did what was needed to draw fouls (i.e. driving to the basket, going inside). In fact, I often felt he didn’t get the same “respect calls” as the LeBron’s, Wades and Melo’s of the world.
Regarding Bosh’s passing, you are correct to a degree. No, Bosh was not a “set-up” guy or a great passer, but he did usually make the right pass out of the double team. This didn’t lead to assists because generally the person Bosh passed to was not the shooter. It was the “swing” pass after Bosh’s initial pass that would lead to a scoring option. I think Bosh could have had greater assist numbers if the Raptors’ offense had more cuts and slips baked in off Bosh double teams…
Agreed that Bosh didn’t get as many respect calls as those guys, but he got them. My point is that it seems that the amount of calls the refs make on a particular team is roughly static on average, so if bosh isn’t getting them, somebody will. Hopefully.
My point on passing, if I could refine it, isn’t so much that Bosh can’t run a play and deliver the ball, but that his court vision may not be as good as Bargnani’s can be. We’re going to find out…
I’d say throughout normal game play Bosh got plenty of calls, but when the game was on the line he didn’t get the respect calls to the same degree as Wade or LeBron do. I guess that won’t be an issue for him this year….
For the Raptors, I expect them to get lots of “even-up” fouls when things don’t matter, but in crunch time I expect the other team to get the benefit of the doubt.
Bargnani can probably increase his FTs/game if he gets the ball in the post consistently(maybe to 5 or so a game). I don’t know if he has the combination of personality and skills to become a force down their, but he could at least become an offensive facilitator. Triano should keep it simple for him: If you have a good look take it, if not wait for the double and hit Johnson/Weems/DeRozan on a cut to the basket or one of the guards out by the 3 point line. Does he have it in him? I guess we’ll find out….
Great Article
No question, the loss of Bosh will be difficult to make up. The guy I think you are underestimating is Kleiza. I think we will see more than 12 per game. In his last year with Denver, he averaged 10. With more minutes, and a greater role (he had Melo and Billups to eat up most of the shots with Denver), he should improve. I think a year in Europe will have helped maturity wise particularly being asked to be the go-to guy there. Plus, he will be primarily used as a SF for us whereas because of Melo, he had to primarily play PF for Denver. His stats at the SF position are better than at the PF.
He is absolutely destroying the FIBA competition (another 30 points today). I’’m not expecting 30 a night but I could easily see 15-18.
I could see 15 to 18 for sure and I agree, my estimate is probably a bit on the conservative side.
As well, sadly Kleiza fits the classic fantasy basketball template of “great scorer on a bad team.” (Think Lamond Murray on the Cavs in the 90’s.)
Therefore if he gets the looks and minutes, I agree, he could put up some solid offensive numbers.
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by Adam Francis on Sep 7, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
The Lithuanian Lamond Murray – love it!
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Sep 8, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Offensive execution
I think that the big thing that Bosh takes out the door with him is offensive execution. When Bosh gets the ball he converts. You can look at TS% or various other metrics, but they all tell you that Bosh is money with the ball in his hands. I don’t think you can say that about any player on this year’s team. Bargnani can be good, DeRozan/Weems show potential, Kleiza has his moments, but no one has anything close to Bosh’s consistent delivery of points. Thankfully, Turk is gone as he was the anti-Bosh. You never knew if you could count on him. Was this a 1-10 night or a 8-12 night? Flip a coin.
Based on bigweeze’s post above, using TS%, Jack, Calderon and Johnson were all comparable to Bosh in offensive execution – and Bargs and DeRozan weren’t too far behind. Of course, with more pressure, their numbers may drop. On the other hand, a running game has the tendency to improve percentages (more dunks, open shots) if played correctly.
As for looking at various offensive metrics… they all agree he is good on offense, but not necessarily ‘money’. As for saying that about other members of the team…
Bosh: 4th on team in TS%; 8th on team in eFG%; 1st on team in PER; 3rd on team in ORTG; 1st on team in OWS.
Jose: 5th in TS%; 4th in eFG%; 3rd in PER; 2nd in ORTG; 3rd in OWS.
Jack: 3rd in TS%; 5th in eFG%; 4th in PER; 4th in ORTG; 2nd in OWS.
And especially,
Amir: 1st in TS%; 1st in eFG%; 2nd in PER; 1st in ORTG; 4th in OWS.
The various metrics say that Jose, Jack, and Amir are also ‘money’ with the ball in their hands, and some say that they were in fact better than Bosh in various categories. I don’t put all my belief into these metrics, but they don’t show an overwhelming superiority (except PER, which includes rebounds – Bosh’s greatest strength in my opinion, and OWS – which is basically the ‘franchise player’ measurement).
I worry about Jack (he shot at career best rates) and Amir (mostly second unit). Amir will be in tough to maintain such high shooting percentages with increased offensive responsibilities, though he does work his way into many easy baskets.
As for Jose, his summer action/injury isn’t looking too promising.
I’d say that guys like Johnson and Calderon have good shot selection which is what leads to them having good shooting numbers, sometimes better than Bosh in certain categories. They have refined their techniques in certain specific arts and while playing off a primary scorer they take intelligent shots leading to high eFG, TS, etc… As long as they can get their efficient shots in an offense centred around Bargnani, Kleiza, DeRozan or Weems, then great.
I think Kleiza is going to surprise some people and won’t be the least bit surprised if he leads the team in scoring. He clearly has the scorers mentality and I think the shots are going to go to whoever steps up and takes them. 12 points a night is a really low estimate, I’m thinking he will be closer to 18 a night.
re: Scoring
Following the thread so far you folks have done a good job of presenting the numbers argument for people that aren’t inclined to consult stats.
The points about the loss of Bosh’s scoring efficiency, and his ability to make space for higher percentage shots by supporting players hit home. I would cite how well Kapono did in Miami, with two double team worthy stars, as opposed to Toronto with just one. I’m not comfortable extrapolating stats, especially the ones per 36 minutes, for the players who got such a high efficiency rating because they knew how to play off of the extra attention paid to others.
Bryan Colangelo made a big statement in terms of dollars and years when he resigned Amir Johnson. I think that expectations have shifted, and he’s going to be given the responsibility and minutes to prove that he can do more then just energize a second unit. Whether he’s up to the tasking of facing off against first string bigman is a question that I hope he’s been working towards answering in the gym this summer.
I have a feeling that Kleiza could go either way in terms of his propensity for putting up shots. On the one hand, he may look at the upheaval in the offensive pecking order and think that he’s got as much right to top dog status as anyone else that’s currently here. On the other hand, the security of the long term contract, and assurances of the front office / coaching staff, may have him willing to ease himself into his role, knowing that he will have a major role in the offense without having to look over his shoulder for the next substitution. Kleiza doesn’t have the lateral quickness to defend well, but on this team at this time that isn’t a barrier for entry. I do like the fact he is saying all the right things about working the inside and outside elements of his game. He looks to the outside observer as a player who’s hungry and aggressive. Given his status as a young vet, I don’t think we can have enough of that kind of mentality on this team.
Barbosa seems to have the kind of relevance that Mike James did in his short time on the team. I think we all realize that this year is about looking for the traits and skills that we want to keep on the team as it evolves into a playoff contender, and eventually playoff participant. That is as far as I dare look in the short term. Whether he puts up numbers or not doesn’t make much difference in the grand scheme of things, I doubt he will be around when we’ve matured into a team worthy of putting up a fight in the playoffs. That said someone has got to score the points, so as long as he isn’t damaging the all important development time of the youngsters, then sure roll him out there for however many minutes his play merits.


























