David Andersen's Signing Signals Same Old Problems for Raptors

you can buy Solomon Alabi (or insert 2nd round pick here) for less than $3 million

David Anderson’s expiring contract.

Which means BC turned a D- asset in to a D. You can do more with an expiring contract than you can a TPE.

As far as those better options go… why aren’t they signed already? Also… maybe because no one leaked it to twitter… but it is quite possible BC went after those players. There’s a lot no one knows.

What we do know is the 2.6 mil TPE turned in to a back-up center and an expiring contract which, thought a D in terms of value, is still of more use than a TPE. Do you really think if Alabi kills in it training camp that he’ll lose to to Anderson?

This coming from someone who just called David Andersen an asset, the same player Houston paid to leave. I said it is a waste of time because not only is it not good, but it could actually hurt the team when this guy starts shooting bricks and not rebounding.

That was funny. Especially how you mentioned “Dream Shake” when discussing this uniform warmer… As Charles Barkley would say: Hakeem Olajuwan is rolling over in his grave.

The Raptors had one of the top offenses in the league. Yes Jose didn’t deserve to breifly get his starting spot back, Hedo should have been benched early on, we saw the results of him not being benched. I have no problem with Demar playing, but in a season that was supposed to be dedicated to competing and trying to keep Bosh, Jay should have been playing players that were working hard and running the correct schemes. Most people could see early on that Wright or even Weems should have been starting over Demar and by mid season Hedo. If I am incorrect, why was Demar taken out of the starting line at the end of the season when the Raps were trying to get in the playoffs? Shouldn’t the whole season have been dedicated to getting into the playoffs?

1. An established all-star, I give you that, but not like having an all star at one of the wing positions or at centre
2. Number 1 pick in a draft that proved to be very low on impact talent, and, in retrospect the team was lucky to get one of the few reasonable, durable contributors from that draft and still have him locked in at a relatively good rate. I’m thinking this year will be for Bargnani as last year was for Bogut
3. Cap space — if memory serves me they had maybe 9 to 12 Mil to work with (with multiple holes to fill that number wasn’t going to land a star) but they did get some good pieces for the money they spent.

This time around, you have to also be mindful of a new CBA coming which is likely to skew many things in favour of a team in the Raps position beyond this year (only one bad contract, nothing over 10M/year, plus expirings and a TPE equal to the value of those expirings, basically 2 for 1 special).

It’s also a young team, which is always good because (a) that potential could be realized sooner than later making the value for money ratio favourable and (b) you can always sell another GM on the potential of a young player and move him for a more useful piece.

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I think circumstances are different from 4 years ago.

1. BC was a “rookie” in my eyes. Yes, he was in charge at Phoenix (or was he), but Daddy was there as well – if I’m not mistaken.
2. Colangelo came from a Phoenix team that had Nash. Ask a Star player where they’d go – Nash & Phoenix, or Bosh & Raptors, and wait for the 10 second response – if it takes that long.
3. Colangelo didn’t quite understand the factors that Toronto experiences in the NBA.
   ESPN: The NBA Needs to Ask Itself If It Wants To Be In Toronto
   BC wasn’t ready for the tax issues, the downside of being a Canadian location & all the other junk, that goes with “why I don’t want to play in Toronto”.
4. BC was put in a position, where his star player (Bosh), opinionated himself as a Max guy. Many Rap fans didn’t feel that way – more so in hindsight, I realize. Raps needed a Leader, and even though CB is a great player, he’s definitely no Leader. I think he excels where his true status is acknowledged (ie. Olympic Dream team). In the end, Colangelo had to ride that one out, because in all likelihood, he wasn’t getting a player better than Bosh (and where CB would be the No. 2 guy). Drafting one was even more of a longshot – unless we really tanked + got lucky. Ask the Nets how that feels.

In the matter of Cap Room – I’ve tended to focus more on the accounting aspect, then the talent side to things. Being under the cap (like Miami) is good if the issues (see #3) are not affecting you, but being over seems to have its’ own advantages (ie. MLE).
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From Larry Coon http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q71
 The Traded Player exception is the primary means used by teams over the cap for completing trades. It allows teams to make trades that leave them over the cap, but it places several restrictions on those trades. Trades using the Traded Player exception are classified into two categories: simultaneous and non-simultaneous. As its name suggests, a simultaneous trade takes place all at once. Teams can acquire up to 125% plus $100,000 of the salaries they are trading in a simultaneous trade. For example, a team trading a $5 million player in a simultaneous trade can receive one or more players whose salary is no more than 125% of $5 million, plus $100,000, or $6.35 million in return.

A non-simultaneous trade may take up to a year to complete, but the team can only trade away one player, and can receive no more than $100,000 more than the salary they trade away. Non-simultaneous trades are described in question number 72.

In short:

    * A simultaneous trade gives the team more money but less time
    * A non-simultaneous trade gives the team more time but less money.

It is important to view a trade from each team’s perspective separately, rather than as a single, unified transaction. This is because the same trade may be organized differently according to each team’s needs. For example, a trade might be classified as a simultaneous trade from one team’s perspective, but from the other team’s perspective it’s actually broken into two trades, one simultaneous and the other non-simultaneous (completing a trade they made months earlier).

There are several restrictions on trades (either simultaneous or non-simultaneous) which are described in other questions in this FAQ. These include Base Year Compensation (question numbers 76, 77 and 78), sign-and-trade (question numbers 79, 80, 81 and 82), including cash in trades (question number 83), trading draft picks (question number 74), trade bonuses (question numbers 86 and 87), and no-trade provisions (question number 88). In addition, performance incentives can complicate trades (question number 64).

Also be aware that while the term “Traded Player exception” refers to the entire exception which allows teams to make trades above the salary cap (including simultaneous trades, non-simultaneous trades, and base year compensation), it is also commonly used to refer to the one-year monetary credit teams receive while a non-simultaneous trade is pending completion. Be aware of this potential ambiguity, which was made worse by the current CBA (earlier CBAs used the term “Assigned Player exception” to refer to the entire exception).
72. What is a non-simultaneous trade?

In some cases, teams have up to one year to acquire the replacement player(s) to complete a trade. These trades are considered non-simultaneous trades. In a non-simultaneous trade, a team can only acquire up to 100% plus $100,000 of the salary it gives up (as opposed to 125% plus $100,000 in a simultaneous trade). A trade in which more than one player is traded away can only be simultaneous; non-simultaneous trades are allowed only when a single player is traded away (although teams can sometimes find ways to configure multi-player trades as multiple single-player trades which are non-simultaneous).

Here is an example of a non-simultaneous trade: a team trades away a $2 million player for a $1 million player. Sometime in the next year, they trade a draft pick (with zero trade value itself) for a $1.1 million player to complete the earlier trade. They ended up acquiring $2.1 million in salary for their $2 million player — they just didn’t do it all at once, or even necessarily with the same trading partner.

In the above example, after the initial trade of the $2 million player for the $1 million player, it was like the team had a “credit” for one year, with which they could acquire up to $1.1 million in salaries without having to send out salaries to match. This credit is often referred to as a Traded Player exception or a trade exception, but be aware that the CBA uses the name “Traded Player exception” to refer to the entire exception which allows teams to make trades above the salary cap (including simultaneous trades, non-simultaneous trades, and base year compensation).

There are some common misconceptions about non-simultaneous trades. For one, teams cannot use a Traded Player exception to sign free agents; it can be used only to acquire existing contracts from other teams. For another, teams cannot combine a Traded Player exception with other exceptions (such as the Mid-Level exception or the 125% plus $100,000 margin from another trade) in order to trade for a more expensive player. For example, a team with a $1 million Traded Player exception cannot combine it with their $2 million player to trade for a $3 million player (see question number 75 for more information on combining exceptions).

Here is a more complicated example of a legal non-simultaneous trade: a team has a $4 million Traded Player exception from an earlier trade, and a $10 million player it currently wants to trade. Another team has three players making $4 million, $5 million and $7 million, and the teams want to do a three-for-one trade with these players. This is legal — the $5 million and $7 million players together make less than the 125% plus $100,000 allowed for the $10 million player ($12,600,000), and the $4 million player exactly fits within the $4 million Traded Player exception. So the $4 million player actually completes the previous trade, leaving the two teams trading a $10 million player for a $5 million and a $7 million player. From the other team’s perspective it’s all just one big simultaneous trade: their $4 million, $5 million and $7 million players for the $10 million player.

Again, non-simultaneous trades are not available when a team trades away multiple players (aggregates). Let’s say a team has a $4 million player and a $5 million player, and uses the Traded Player exception to trade for an $8 million player. Even though they trade away more salary ($9 million) than they receive ($8 million), the fact that they aggregated the two players means they do not gain a Traded Player exception. However, it is sometimes possible to reorganize these trades so that players technically are not aggregated. A good example of this occurred in 2004 when Houston traded Steve Francis, Cuttino Mobley and Kelvin Cato to Orlando for Tracy McGrady, Juwan Howard, Tyronn Lue and Reece Gaines. As a single trade, it could only be simultaneous since multiple players were moving each way. However, Houston was able to reorganize the trade into three separate trades. In one trade, they acquired McGrady and Gaines for Mobley and Cato. In another trade, they acquired Howard and Lue using an existing Traded Player exception from their earlier Glen Rice trade. That left them trading Francis essentially by himself for nothing, which generated a new Traded Player exception in the amount of Francis’ base year value. From Orlando’s perspective, it was a single, simultaneous three-for-four trade.

Teams can consume only part of a Traded Player exception, in which case they can still use the remainder in a future trade. For example, if a team trades a $4 million player for a $2 million player, they gain a $2.1 million Traded Player exception. If they later trade a draft pick for a $1 million player, they still have $1.1 million remaining to acquire more players and complete the trade (until one year from the date of the original trade)."

So using your own source shows that TPE’s can be used with single player trades i.e. one player going out and one coming in.