RaptorsHQ Live-blogs from Vegas - Raptors vs. Knicks

by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 6:00 PM EDT

We're all set for game number three of Summer League here in Vegas for the Toronto Raptors.

Today's opponent, the New York Knicks in a game that will be televised on RaptorsTV. For those that aren't able to watch via RapsTV, try this link and scroll down to click on the Raps-Knicks feed. (Although based on yesterday's action, it could be a bit sketchy.)

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Raps looking to go 3-0

Knicks have some pretty solid players on their squad so this should be interesting…

…not to mention they have Andy Rautins…

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 6:04 PM EDT reply actions

I LOVE YOU ANDY

no homo

by HDave on Jul 14, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions

Foul on Rautins...

…who’s trying to guard DeMar to start…

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 6:13 PM EDT reply actions

Bobby Brown

He’s been shooting the ball really well through the first 3 games. His long-range shot looks dead on as soon as he sets his feet. Sleeper 3rd guard option for the fall.

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 6:15 PM EDT reply actions

Sonnnnnny for 3

Weems’ long-range shot looks pretty solid, and DeMar continues to be aggressive on O.

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 6:18 PM EDT reply actions

Raps up 13 to 9

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 6:18 PM EDT reply actions

Sonny and Demar getting after it.

Both are simply terrors for the Knicks defenders.

And Sonny’s hitting on his pull-up J’s as well.

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 6:24 PM EDT reply actions

Knicks take lead

With about two minutes left, New York’s up by 3, 27 to 24, thanks to some aggressive drives to the hoop. Raptors missed the DeRozan/Weems combo and Dorsey down low.

DeRozan back in now but Sonny’s on the bench.

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 6:31 PM EDT reply actions

End of first quarter

Raptors down 34 to 31 although you get the feeling that this match would be a lot different if guys like Cheik Samb and Curtis Stinson weren’t getting burn.

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 6:39 PM EDT reply actions

And on that note

Starters back in.

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions

Raptors up 49 to 41 thanks to starters

DeMar, Sonny and the 3-man rotation of bigs doing a number on Knicks.

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 6:51 PM EDT reply actions

Demar

really uped his game.

by claws on Jul 14, 2010 6:52 PM EDT reply actions

He’s looking great out there, really hoping he proves me wrong this season. More aggressive, more confident, shot more smooth – nice complement to Sonny who’s a better ball-handler off the bounce.

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions

I love these young Raptors

I’m also really impressed with Solomon Alabi, great looking big man.

by pshah on Jul 14, 2010 6:57 PM EDT reply actions

Was sitting beside ESPN.com’s Coach Thorpe for most of the first half – he’s training Alabi. I’ll give you the breakdown tomorrow on him, interesting stuff but obviously he feels Alabi can be a player next year, maybe moreso than Davis.

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions

DeMar looking better and more aggressive on O

His lateral quickness on D still looks abt slow tho. Weems and DD both look improved, confident and aggressive. Hope it continues during the real season. Dorsey could easily replace Evans as a situational/rebounding guy. Bobby Brown’s got game, but he’s too small and weak imo to last int he NBA.

by Member29 on Jul 14, 2010 6:57 PM EDT reply actions

Joey Dorsey

Is he going to be on the roster next year or is he going to D League?

by pshah on Jul 14, 2010 6:57 PM EDT reply actions

He’s not D League eligible any more unless the Raptors cut him somehow. And he’s playing too well to let go – can’t see why he wouldn’t be able to give the team what Reggie Evans did last year…at a much cheaper price tag.

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions

man he’s a wide pant load.

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions

yeah Dorsey is a horse down low. Doesn’t have the greatest size but he’s rebounding like a monster.

by pshah on Jul 14, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Dorsey’s footwork is looking pretty bad.. he uses his width to his advantage, but everyone he’s playing against is like rail thin.

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Gets great positioning, really long, and quite athletic. He’s not simply a big guy, very lean but with ridiculous Dwight Howard type shoulders.

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions

Can you get a picture of that Tina chick from NBA tv?

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions

He looked really good in the rocket game last night. How does his speed and stamina look? He looked a bit gassed at points.

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Think Alabi is already better than Hasheem Thabeet?

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 6:59 PM EDT reply actions

Don’t you think it is a little early to compare any of the summer league roster to guys already in the NBA? Its not like a lot of these guys will be on rosters when the season starts.

by McGateway on Jul 14, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m comparing him to Hasheem who’s playing in the Summer League.

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions

He has already played one year in the NBA though and I am just saying right now both of them are playing against a lot of guys who will not be in the NBA next season.

by McGateway on Jul 14, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions

and what I’M saying is, Alabi is doing a lot of things in the Summer league better than Hasheem. I could give a rats ass if Hasheem’s played 10 years in the league.

Hasheem looks lost in the office of side. He stands under the bucket not knowing how to create space, and so far Alabi looks like he’s using his shoulders and elbows effectively (in the two games I’ve seen) to clear out space.

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions

offensive side.. that is.

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions

See McG.. it doesn’t matter what league you’re in.. if you don’t have proper footwork, or clearance moves you’re in trouble. You have to at least show that you’re capable of executing.

If you don’t have a drop step off the weak hand.. then. you don’t have a drop step in the NBA or the playground.

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions

YES

That’s a yes with authority. Talked to some of the media that follow Hasheem yesterday, wanted to see how he was progressing here.

He’s got similar physical skills to Alabi but the major issue that puts Alabi ahead is basketball IQ…Thabeet looks slow and mechanical because he’s about 2 seconds slow to react to things, and understand how a play might develop. Alabi already ahead in that realm.

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions

I saw Thabeet’s game yesterday with OJ Mayo playing point guard, and they looked awful!! Thabeet is probably the 2009 bust of the year.

The first time I saw Alabi, the first person I thought of was a less refined Thabeet. And now I think Alabi may be ahead.

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Well, I haven’t seen Thabeet play so far so I cannot comment on him. I just prefer not to get too excited by summer league performances or too down on anyone. The main thing for me is everyone remains healthy and work on their game.

by McGateway on Jul 14, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions

dude.. this has nothing to do with summer league.. this is about seeing if he developed compared to watching him in the NCAAs. You know what?? Nevermind…

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions

why are you even commenting on something you haven’t seen?

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions

I wasn’t commenting and saying that Haslem is better, just saying I would like to see them play against each other before I start rolling out the All-Star ballots for Alabi.

by McGateway on Jul 14, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions

who the F$%&$ is rolling out an all-star ballot? You my friend, are a ninny.

Did you even seen my question? Let me repeat it. Do you think Alabi is better than Thabeet? Read it over a few times before you respond.

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Q: Is Alabi better than Thabeet.

McG: Uhh I dunno, I haven’t seen Thabeet, but this is the summer league and I don’t want no Allstar talk around here.

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Listen, I already answered your question but I guess it is difficult for you to read English so let me reiterate for you. I DO NOT WANT TO COMPARE PLAYERS AGAINST EACH OTHER UNTIL I SEE THEM PLAY AGAINST EACH OTHER. peace out

by McGateway on Jul 14, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions

So what you’re saying is, you can only compare them when they play side by side. See that could be fair.. dumb, but fair.

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Didn’t you quit the blog?

by McGateway on Jul 14, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Nope came back just to bug you.

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions

Good times.

by McGateway on Jul 14, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions

it’s all fun dude.. :)

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Sorry.. I retract that statement.. I wouldn’t want any Allstar talk about championships and stuff duh.. uhh.

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions

This was an epic battle LOL!

by MAS11 on Jul 14, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions

This site really needs a sarcastic font because I was exaggerating when I said All-Star talk. You know as well as I do that people in here get overly excited about Raptor players tying their shoeless right so maybe I over reacted to your statement.

by McGateway on Jul 14, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m sorry McG.. but “I don’t want no All-Star” talk is my new “Bol” from now on. LoL.

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions

Ninny this!

by McGateway on Jul 14, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions

LoL.. Fail.

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions

I haven’t stopped laughing since about the 3rd reply… thanks guys.

by K-Dawg976 on Jul 15, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions

Dorsey

No reason why Dorsey can’t replace Evans. He’s looking good out there. I don’t think you can disregard summer league play all together. If a guys looks good he looks good, it may not translate to stardom on the NBA level but the guy looks like he can get it done on the glass.

by Member29 on Jul 14, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions

Roll?

Who is this kids, got a nice clean shot. Can he make the team?

by Member29 on Jul 14, 2010 7:01 PM EDT reply actions

Doubt it – he doesn’t really do much else but hey, if Toronto needs a gunner as a 15th player…

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Doesn’t Walker look a little like a young Antonio Davis.

by McGateway on Jul 14, 2010 7:04 PM EDT reply actions

Davis

has been a bit disappointing. Seems to have low energy and not enough size. Hope he has a better 2nd half. needs to be more aggressive.

by Member29 on Jul 14, 2010 7:06 PM EDT reply actions

one thing that troubles me

DD’s FTs. hes 3-8 at the half and yesterday he was lik 5-10. whats going on DD?!

by claws on Jul 14, 2010 7:11 PM EDT reply actions

Just saw on TSN that Hedo to the suns is a "done deal"

I'm on a horse.

by craig in calgary on Jul 14, 2010 7:16 PM EDT reply actions

Yep – sorry, we never put up a link but it’s done. Talked about it this afternoon on Twitter.

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions

ha

I just thought there would be more of a party around here.

I'm on a horse.

by craig in calgary on Jul 14, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh there will be!

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions

What do you think abd Calderon for Hibbert + +

I can see why we’d so it but do u think Indiana would?

by Member29 on Jul 14, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions

Awkward

DeMar dunked on Andy Rautins there and Rautins almost crashed into me behind the basket while hurting his ankle…

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 7:20 PM EDT reply actions

way to take down Leo’s kid. He’ll be upset and he’ll find out where you live man.

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions

Bobby Brown

Any chance he’ll get on the roster? He might be a little careless with the ball but he seems great in transition and has a nice shot/drive combo.

by pshah on Jul 14, 2010 7:20 PM EDT reply actions

I think so

Not that this is a lock by any means, but if Toronto needs a third PG, I could totally see him getting the call.

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions

So I guess that means Barbosa will most definitely be playing as a SG and not at point… I just really want Derozan and Weems to get as many minutes as possible.

by pshah on Jul 14, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions

oh gawd I hope not. Our town has enough coke heads.

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions

He’s developing chemistry with Weems and Derozan… get him on the team

by pshah on Jul 14, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Alabi

Alabi needs to work on his conditioning a bit more

by claws on Jul 14, 2010 7:21 PM EDT reply actions

RANDOM

So…as pointed out by one of the other bloggers here, Rob Babcock, Glen Grunwald and Bryan Colangelo are all sitting in the same area here…

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 7:23 PM EDT reply actions

do you see Zeke?? This could be a conspiracy.

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions

That would make me leave ha ha

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions

LOL

Where’s David Kahn…

by MAS11 on Jul 14, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions

Trading for more PGs and/or SFs

by pshah on Jul 14, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions

zing!

by MAS11 on Jul 14, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions

Any Comments on...

… the rumour that ADAM FREAKING MORRISON is working out for the Raptors!?!?! This can’t be true… I will renounce my fandom if Morrison is on the Raptor’s roster October 31st.

by MAS11 on Jul 14, 2010 7:26 PM EDT reply actions

I’ll check post-game…haven’t heard anything here yet.

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Morrison?

Oh Gosh

by Member29 on Jul 14, 2010 7:28 PM EDT reply actions

Curtis Stinson

He racked up the stats in D League, got 24-11 as a PG

by pshah on Jul 14, 2010 7:28 PM EDT reply actions

I like Curtis but like Brown more…

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions

Raptors blowing it open

Knicks can’t compete with the speed and athleticism of the Raptors’ squad, and their size and depth in the middle.

Toronto up 83 to 64.

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 7:32 PM EDT reply actions

Weems is just too good for these guys lol

by pshah on Jul 14, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions

It’s Dupree and Me.

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:32 PM EDT reply actions

It’s Dupree and me for Threeeeeeee…

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions

Boateng

Who’s this guy from the Knicks? Is he related to the Ghanian Kevin Prince Boateng or that other Boateng from Germany?

by pshah on Jul 14, 2010 7:34 PM EDT reply actions

Eric Boateng

Was a decent NCAA player who never reached potential.

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions

Thanks. No relation it turns out.

by pshah on Jul 14, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Boateng is a common name in Ghana.

by benjibopper on Jul 14, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Um...

Colangelo and BC chatting now in the stands…so want to snap a photo of this…

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 7:35 PM EDT reply actions

TOO MUCH GOING ON

BC and RB I meant – Babcock.

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions

David Kahn and Rob Babcock

This has to be by far the worst team of GM and assistant GM in the NBA. No wonder there are so many confusing moves.

by pshah on Jul 14, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions

BC and BC?? That would be a shot!

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:36 PM EDT reply actions

Hmmm, Brown is holding onto the ball too long. Maybe he is little more Mike James than I thought.

by McGateway on Jul 14, 2010 7:37 PM EDT reply actions

He’s an Allstar! LoL :)

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Brown’s not out there right now – that’s Stinson.

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions

poor dee brown as well.. I thought he had a chance to be a bench regular.

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions

Can’t see the names and I am cooking so I am walking back. My bad.

by McGateway on Jul 14, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions

back and forth.

by McGateway on Jul 14, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions

Think we can continue the 3 point streak this year? I predict it ends within the first 3 weeks.

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:40 PM EDT reply actions

Does Dorsey remind you a bit of Oliver Miller too? LoL.

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:42 PM EDT reply actions

Not even close – I’m telling you, Dorsey is cut – no worrying about the buffet with him.

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Not necessarily waist line wise. But he uses his girth to bump people around to get the rebound. He kinda hip checks a guy a bit and leans over.

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Patrick Ewing is still ugly. Good to know that some things never change.

by McGateway on Jul 14, 2010 7:44 PM EDT reply actions

Landry looking pretty good (you know for summer league).

by McGateway on Jul 14, 2010 7:45 PM EDT reply actions

Fan of Landry

He might find a spot somewhere.

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Is Jack still an Assistant Coach on the bench?

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:51 PM EDT reply actions

Haven’t seen him here over the past few days.

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions

This one's pretty much over

3 minutes left but Raptors have been cruising since mid-way through third quarter.

Up 98 to 81 now.

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 7:51 PM EDT reply actions

Franch.. you guys also need to hit up Tao nightclub at the Venetian. Best party in Vegas.

by Ustation on Jul 14, 2010 7:52 PM EDT reply actions

Don’t think I will this trip – will for sure in the fall when I’m not watching 80 hours of Summer League ha ha. Been to Pure but not Tao so want to go.

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by Adam Francis on Jul 14, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions