Raptors Roll Over Rockets in Vegas 100 to 91
The Raptors start 2-0 in Vegas with a 100 to 91 win over the Houston Rockets' Summer League entry. The HQ breaks things down...
There's nothing like Vegas Summer League.
Really, there isn't.
Where else can you see vets like Gerald Green, who squandered earlier NBA opportunities, giving it one more shot?
Where else can you see random former NCAA studs like Alando Tucker battle it out with newly drafted NCAA stars like Landry Fields?
And where can you see former NBA cast-offs like Shavlik Randolph, desperately trying to make teams who need to fill out their roster on the cheap (the Heat?)
It really is a bit of a surreal environment, and that's not even getting into random sightings or other incidents.
For example, I picked up my media pass yesterday at the same time as Rick Adelman, and last night at the Palms, a blackjack dealer stopped Shareef Abdur-Rahim and told him he was the most underrated player in NBA history. As well, a girl playing roulette with me told me matter-of-factly that she was here this week to "get with an NBA player."
You just can't make this stuff up.
It's especially an enjoyable environment for me because 90% of the participants are players I watched closely over the past few years in college. So even a game between a Curry-less Golden State and a Heat team that may end up being 3/5ths of their roster is great viewing from my perspective.
It helps of course if the team you're here to cover is winning, and that's exactly what the Toronto Raptors' Vegas entry is doing.
With a 100 to 91 victory over the Houston Rockets yesterday afternoon, Toronto moves to 2 and 0 in Summer League play, and continues to look dominant amongst the league's other squads.
DeMar DeRozan led the way for Toronto with 23 points on a very efficient 10 of 15 shooting. His Young Gunz running mate Sonny Weems didn't shoot as well, but was nearly as impactful showcasing his O and D en route to 13 points and 5 boards.
Toronto's bigs were also difference makers as Joey Dorsey had a double-double (13 points, 12 rebounds) and even though Ed Davis struggled on the afternoon, Solomon Alabi stepped up in his place finishing with 10 points and 6 boards.
In a game that the Dinos controlled from nearly the tip, the Rockets managed to close towards the end of the match before DeRozan and point guard Bobby Brown put it away. Brown is an interesting player out of Cal-State Fullerton who just very well may make Toronto's training camp roster if Jose or Marcus Banks are shown the door. He's not quite a pass-first point-guard, and is limited somewhat in height, but he's shown good instincts running the team, can score in bunches (he finished with 20 yesterday) and has been lauded by teammates DeRozan and Weems for his play. If I were to pick one player from this Summer League squad that might make the club next year outside of the likes of Weems and Dorsey etc, it would be Brown.
In fact, I wouldn't be shocked to see Brown lead this club to a 5-0 record in Vegas. The team has a nice mix of experience, dominant big men, skilled wings, and overall talent to do some serious damage.
It's a bit of a double-edged sword however as a lot of the time, the best Summer League teams are the best because they make up the majority of their NBA team's key players. Therefore in my experience, great Summer League teams mean bad NBA teams since the NBA team is relying heavily on these same inexperienced players.
Unfortunately, I feel that Toronto is a prime example of the latter right now disregarding any possible future moves. There's a lot of nice young talent but we've yet to see if that equates to anything when the games truly matter.
However there's a lot here to be encouraged by.
DeRozan's shot looks a lot smoother and more confident and he's looking to attack on offense at every opportunity.
Sonny Weems does look to have extended his range, but not at the expense of getting to the cup.
There are some great defensive flashes shown by Ed Davis and Solomon Alabi
And Joey Dorsey is simply a monster in the paint, a take-no-prisoners big man that also has a nice soft touch around the rim.
So what does this all mean?
Well, not much right now aside from Toronto having some solid young prospects who continue to build on their skills.
And right now, isn't that really all you can ask for as a Raptors' fan?
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Franchise is married, he can’t answer that ;)
by Assistant GM on Jul 14, 2010 8:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Franchise...
is the furthest thing from married…
Dave "Howland" Randell
Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com
by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jul 14, 2010 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Touche
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Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com
by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jul 14, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Laugh it up…but it’s true – RHQ and I tied the knot five years ago ad have been inseparable since…
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Jul 14, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I"m a divorce lawyer
So if you need any help ditching the other bums for, say, ESPN, you know where to find me!
by RaptorsAddict on Jul 14, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Ouch
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jul 14, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't mean it!
I only called you guys bums for dramatic effect – I got nothin’ but love for the entire HQ Crew (particularly an OG such as yourself Howland). How would I get my daily Raps fix without the HQ?
by RaptorsAddict on Jul 14, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Here’s the funny thing – she wasn’t at all…
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Jul 14, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
And yet she’ll still probably hook up with an NBA player (or at least somebody on a summer league roster).
Is Shawn Kemp making a comeback at this year LVSL? If so, she’ll not only have the honor of sleeping with a real, honest-to-goodness NBA All-Star, she’ll also get to pop out Little Kemp #19.
by RaptorsAddict on Jul 14, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
You’ve got all these rail thin kids.. then this wide body like Dorsey.
I wonder if Bobby Brown would play better if we find him a Whitney to slap around? Too soon?
Having a Mike James style PG on the time isn’t that bad of an idea. We need someone who can come in and score to offset our other PGs. If Banks or Calderon go then using as a third stringer might be a nice balance.
Yes a guy who dribbles around and then takes low percentage shots while everyone stands around and watches.
Have you ever played bball with a guy like that? You run around setting picks and trying to get open, then you have a dofus pg doing his own thing.. In your mind, it’s like, why do I even bother? Then you stop running.. then you stop setting picks… then you just hang around mid court and watch.
I agree a complete ball hog is not something this team needs but I do not think this kid is the exact same player as James was. When I was talking about a James type PG I meant the offensive minded (scoring) type guard instead of just another facilitator. Sometimes you need a guy who thinks to score first you just don’t want them as your starter.
All I know is, if Barb’s shooting percentage drops below 40% or his 3point % gets closer to 30, this town is going to be on his case faster than you can say “Bol”.
I should hope so! 40 FG% and 30 3FG% are turrible.
by dhackett1565 on Jul 14, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
You take that back.
Mike James was an absolute beast when he was here.
Not sure how you disrespect a PG scoring 20 ppg with a .538 efg%, but you manage to. Apparently he was taking such low percentage shots and not using his screens to the extent that he had an extremely strong shooting percentage for a guard.
He actually was one of the best backup PGs you could hope for in the seasons before we got him – a ballhandler who can score efficiently and effectively while playing tough defense in limited minutes. And then was even better in his contract year with us.
Long story short, there aren’t many guys who can replicate what Mike James did that year for us, and if they actually had any track record, wouldn’t come cheap.
Yup and that’s why (big breath here)
Miami, Boston, Houston, Milwaukee, Minnesota, New Orleans, Houston (again), Washington all thought he was so wonderful.
If he isn’t the worst raptor to ever get over 70 starts, I’m not sure who is. It was the best 27-55 season ever! Ever notice he destroys ever team he’s ever been to? The amount of Toronto MJ (and no not than MJ) fans are incredible. Makes me sad.
I think part of the reason he gets so much love is that he was one of the few glimmers of excitement in an otherwise extremely dreary season. He had his warts, obviously, but no one can argue that he wasn’t one of the few enjoyable Raps to watch that year (stats and actual contributions to winning basketball be damned).
by RaptorsAddict on Jul 14, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah.. watching everyone stand around watching him dribbling around aimlessly taking shots was fun…
At the time I predicted he’d never get 30 more starts the rest of his career, and I was close. The guy can’t even last a full season in any town. Anyways, I remember everyone ripping me at the time when I said he didn’t even deserve a career, no matter how many shots he was making.
The James (Mendoza) line is my test for a decent scout. Those that think he’s good have never played a minute of bball in their lives and obviously know nothing about basketball. Yes he was scoring, and was even fairly efficient, but his “style” of play was killing the team.
I bench kids playing for me who think they’re Mike James, and they learn quick too. They look at me and wonder why they’re benched even though they’re scoring. They all know the answer by the end of the season for sure.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m neither defending nor endorsing the “Mike James, Bitch” style of play, I’m just saying there are reasons why he is so beloved.
by RaptorsAddict on Jul 14, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
You are overexaggerating. The bottom line is that when James was here, he was a very good player.
He was our leading scorer in total points (20.3 ppg), here are the rest in order:
Bosh (PPG leader – 22.5), Peterson, Villanueva, Bonner, Rose, Graham – not exactly a glittering cast.
Who else was supposed to score (playing his ass off this year, Bosh managed only 24.0 ppg). On a better team, James surely doesn’t get that much opportunity, but you can’t talk poorly about his contribution here. He absolutely shot the lights out which is atypical for guards who dribble and score alot but hurt more than help due to low FG% like Iverson/Francis/Marbury.
To say that he is the worst Raptor to ever start 70 games is quite a ridiculous statement considering how well he played. There are plenty of Raptors who did far less with a starting role, like Turkoglu (69g), Moon (75g), Parker (73g), Nesterovic (73g), Alston (78g), A. Williams, Peterson, etc…
Not too soon…or to say that if we found him some drugs to sell…
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Jul 14, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Alabi
I thought Alabi would be heading straight to the D-League, but maybe he will be able to play enough minutes for the Raptors(10-15 per game) to make it worth keeping him with the big club.
Forgot the question
I meant to add: What do you guys think? Will Alabi be a contributor of any kind this season?
With the Roster the way it is right now...
Without Tyson Chandler and Diaw coming in, I don’t think the Raptors have the luxury of assigning Mr. Alabi to the D League… Right now they need him on the Roster as Bargani is the ONLY centre (if you consider Bargani a true centre) under contract. We’ll have to wait and see what transpires over the summer and how BC fills out this Roster.
....Amir?
I’m pretty sure Mr. Johnson would be the starting center as the roster is currently configured, with Bargs moving over to be PF. I also think Reggie Evans will get the call in the middle before Bargs does again.
Hey if you guys are in Vegas, make sure you go to Ellis Island Casino for their Chicken and Rib Combo. For like around $10 you get enough meat to last 3 years.
i wish i was there now, getting food in the states is so cheap. if you ever goto birch run in michigan for shopping make sure you go to tony’s! blt with 1lb of bacon and i am not joking!
Where is this Tony's?
I wish to try this BLT.
I ate so much junky US food yesterday that I’m going to try and get something healthy in my body today. True Hoop’s Kevin Arnovitz was saying the same thing to me at the games – he had sushi with him courtside and some organic grapes!!
Tony’s on Thursday maybe before I leave?
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Jul 14, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Hit the cheesecake factory at Ceasars, then do the brunch at Billagio! You can’t make friends with Salad.
Cheesecake Factory...
greatest eating establishment in Vegas.
Dave "Howland" Randell
Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com
by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jul 14, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully heading there tonight!
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Jul 14, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Star Trek Experience...
…it may not be in Vegas anymore, but if it is you can walk the bridge of the Entnerprise where I got married…
;-)
Sonny
is anyone else ever dissapointed when they see those commercials of the Raptors practices on raptorsTV.
i believe its jose antoine and rasho and all three are basically just running around. i dont know if its supposed to be a type of zone defense, but regardless, it was horrible. hope training camp can be used more productively in the future
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I think its 3 guys guarding 4 guys on the perimeter.
The thinking being to get them used to moving to help.
by dhackett1565 on Jul 14, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Are we, as commentators on this blog, as crazy as the folks in Charlotte?
Seriously, ever since the Calderon thing fell through I’ve been checking out the Charlotte Bobcats blog for some perspective and they are filling up threads with CRAZY trade speculation. Comment counts in the hundreds about some big deal that’s about to be pulled off that made the Calderon pull out necessary, led by two contributors who claim to have sources inside the Bobcats organization. The conspiracy theorist that I am, I suspect they’re plants from the organization just trying to keep the fanbase engaged.
Kind of funny…they’ve started to call it rosterbation. Maybe we were like this after our surprise playoff run in 06/07
Here’s the link
Yeah I am not sure I got that trade at all (Bobcats/Dallas). I understand why Dallas did it to some extent as Chandler is a wash contract wise with Dampier and they got to unload to terrible contracts in Najera and Carroll. How did this trade help Charlotte at all, especially since they are keeping Dampier for now? Neither Carroll or Najera are starters and both have contracts that run at least 2 more years (Carroll has a player option for year 3) while both Chandler and Ajinca (team option next season) can come off the books after this year. This is a great deal for Dallas.


















