5 Key Questions for the Raptors' List of 7 Draft Options
With tomorrow being the big day for the Toronto Raptors, the HQ asks five key questions about the probable 7 players targeted by Toronto, at that 13th spot...
Sometimes in life you gotta play the hand you're dealt.
For me, this suddenly means not being able to head to New York again this year for the NBA Draft thanks to some developments with my real 9 to 5 job.
Am I disappointed?
Of course.
End of the world?
Nope. Both Howland and I will be in Vegas for Summer League again, and sticking around Toronto means we'll still have access to whichever player(s) Toronto ends up drafting.
As well, my compatriot in the scrums, the Score and NBA.com's Holly MacKenzie, will be firing us any Raptors-related updates she hears about from NYC.
Continuing on with the "playing the hand you're dealt" analogy, the Toronto Raptors may be echoing these sentiments tomorrow evening.
As the National Post's Eric Koreen noted last night, the Raptors are essentially "buying a coffee table before a house" regarding this draft as there are still so many questions around this team, questions involving personnel that likely won't be resolved before July 1st. With the 13th pick and several players on their "wish list," the Dinos to a certain extent are going to be victims of circumstance tomorrow evening, hoping that teams above them don't grab all of the players they covet.
Who are those players?
Well, as we've been speculating for a while, the top five would seem to include:
-Avery Bradley
-Cole Aldrich
-Patrick Patterson
-Ekpe Udoh
-Paul George
...in some order. As well, players like Eric Bledsoe and Xavier Henry would seem to be in the mix too depending on what happens with their top five options.
To this extent, I thought this morning we'd look at these final options and discuss one key question about each.
Let's start with our main man King George...
1) Is Paul George too similar to DeMar DeRozan?
Last night one of our readers made a really good point about Paul George. Many of the attributes that we're drooling over, are the same ones fans were drooling over last year in regards to DeMar DeRozan, a player that now, many are trashing as a prospect after one lone season. Indeed, what gives?
Admittedly, I've found myself thinking about this issue.
Yes, George is much more of a 3 than DeRozan thanks to his length, but neither are great ball-handlers or slashers (George had the fourth worst turnover rate per 40 of this year's small forward crop), and both have similar athletic abilities.
I'll argue though that that's where the similarities end.
Unlike DeMar, who shot only 65% from the free-throw line in college, George shot 91% last season, and was an excellent long-range gunner in his first year. He cooled off a bit from 3-point land last season, but he's simply a much better shooter already at this point in time.
As well, in a diminished role with the Raptors, I'm a lot less worried about his turnovers, as opposed to Fresno State, where he was essentially their only option on offence.
My issue with drafting DeMar last season was that statistically, there was nothing he did really well, even with the Trojans. George on the other hand was a major defensive presence, averaging 2 steals a game last season, shot the ball quite well, and was a better per-minute rebounder than DeMar too, all traits that should transfer immediately to the league.
I know some have compared George to Danny Granger, but I think Rudy Gay's earlier years at UCONN are more appropriate. George is more athletic than Granger, and while a similar mismatch due to his size, spent almost no time in the post for Fresno State, unlike Granger in college. Like Gay, George made his living on the perimeter and mid-range, as well as using his athleticism to glide to the rim and for easy put-backs.
2) Is Patrick Patterson the next David West or Corliss Williamson?
Patterson is one of the toughest players to grade in my books. Statistically he's decent in almost every regard, but doesn't jump out at you in any one area. He was one of the best players in college during his career, yet doesn't have the proverbial "upside" of some of his peers.
Are we talking about a player then like Corliss (or even better, Kris Humphries) who despite a dominant NCAA career had to be a niche player on a good team to be effective? Or are we talking about a player like David West, who everyone is overlooking because they've been able to tear apart his game for longer than most of the other top prospects in this draft?
I was leaning towards the former until recently, with the caveat that Patterson isn't the rebounder that Corliss was. However seeing him dominate his work-out here in Toronto reminded me of all the footage I'd seen of Patterson over his years at Kentucky. He's got a nice back-to-the basket game (unlike Hump), can face-up, rebounds the ball well thanks to his length, and is a tough customer down low. Is he the next Elton Brand or David West?
I think that's a bit of a reach but could he not be a Carl Landry type?
I certainly don't see why not.
Most mock drafts have him slotted as Toronto's pick at 13 right now, and if that were to happen tomorrow night, I'd be fine with it. My one concern with drafting him of course is fit, because while he'd be at least an option to help replace Bosh, he's still not the match next to Andrea that I would prefer. Not to mention it would mean keeping Andrea at the 5 when both are on the court together.
3) Are Avery Bradley and Eric Bledsoe in the lineage of Russell Westbrook or Kyle Lowry?
I'm going with Lowry on this one.
I know some folks love these two, especially Bradley, but to me they've got "buyer beware" written all over them.
For starters, neither are true point guards, and yet are undersized as shooting guards. Compounding this, both are hardly great shooters.
Avery in particular worries me. Yes, he's athletic, long, etc, etc. However can he run a team? Can he bring some tangible skill immediately to a club? I'm not sure.
Unlike Rajon Rondo, a player of similar ilk coming out of college in many ways, Avery is not a good rebounder statistically (only 3.5 per 40 minutes, one of the worst ratings in this year's class), was not much of a thief despite his length and athletic ability (1.6 steals per 40) and only his low turnover rate saved his "pure point rating." He averaged only 2.6 assists per 40 minutes.
Yes, stats don't tell the whole story, but look at his team. Texas was hands down one of the top 5 most talented teams on paper, yet crumbled under his leadership late in the season. That's not to say I'm screaming bust, but we're talking two major projects in my opinion. I could see them finding roles akin to Lowry (both are bulldogs devensively) or perhaps Keyon Dooling in the league, but if I'm Toronto, I'm looking elsewhere Thursday night.
4) Cole Aldrich - The next in the line of "Big, White Busts?"
I'm going to say no on this one.
Sure his shot looks like a World Cup throw-in attempt, but this is a player I'm confident can make an impact from Day 1 with a team. He's one of the best rebounders in the draft (the most transferable skill from college to the NBA), blocks shots, and is fairly efficient offensively despite the wonky looking mechanics.
I'm not saying a star is born here, but similar to Joel Przybilla, we're talking about a long and fairly athletic big man who works hard and understands the game.
At 13, you could do a lot worse.
5) Are Udoh and Henry overrated?
I can see why a lot of people are asking this question.
Starting with Udoh, we're talking about a player who really didn't have much of an impact until last season, when he was surrounded at Baylor by superior talent.
As for Henry, he was a good player on a stocked Kansas club, but someone who could be viewed as fairly one-dimensional.
So what's the deal?
I see these two at opposite ends; Udoh being overvalued and Henry being overlooked to a certain extent. People forget that Ray Allen was hardly a great one-on-one player out of UCONN, neither was RIP Hamilton. Yet like Henry, both were solid defensively, could shoot the lights out, and knew how to play the game. I think Henry can come in and make a big impact right away, especially on certain clubs (look out if he falls to the Bucks for instance) and has a long NBA career ahead of him.
I think Udoh can come in and have an impact right away as well, but I don't think he's worth a lottery pick. He's simply too raw offensively. Despite his size and athletic ability (which I believe has been overhyped a bit as well), he isn't a great isolation player, something I think you crave from a power forward taken this high.
Yes, he projects to be a solid shot-blocker and rebounder, but I can't help but watch him and see Pops Mensah-Bonsu with a jump shot. (He's actually one of the better jump shooters for his position in this draft.)
And not that that's a terrible thing...but I don't want that if I'm Toronto at 13.
On a final and unrelated note, I can't explain how frustrating it was last night to see that Chris Douglas-Roberts was dealt to the Milwaukee for a second-round pick in 2053...or 12, whatever.
Are you telling me that Toronto couldn't have given up a future second-rounder for him?
Yes I'm biased towards CDR, but with reason. We're not talking D-Wade here, but when he got minutes last year Douglas-Roberts was one of the most efficient players in the league offensively, and an excellent rebounder. He also gets to the free-throw line at an incredible clip and to me he's Corey Maggette light...albeit a better defender, longer, and with a much better contract.
Why would you not try and snatch him up?
We're talking about a second-round pick here as the price tag, the likes of which usually end up in the D-League or plying their trades in Europe a few years after the fact.
This team needs help at the 3, especially if Hedo is out, needs players who can create off the bounce, needs rebounding and most of all, with Bosh gone, needs someone who can get to the line. I mean, Andrea was the next most proficient free-throw attempt player last year essentially and wasn't even close to Bosh in this regard.
That's not good.
Who knows, maybe Colangelo did make an attempt (something I intend to ask on Friday if possible) but right now, this looks like a big win for the Bucks even though the transaction itself was relatively small.
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As the National Post’s Eric Koreen noted last night, the Raptors are essentially “buying a coffee table before a house” regarding this draft as there are still so many questions around this team, questions involving personnel that likely won’t be resolved before July 1st.
And they splurged on an ottoman already as well…
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jun 23, 2010 12:40 PM EDT reply actions
Touche
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
by Adam Francis on Jun 23, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
“We’re talking about a second-round pick here as the price tag, the likes of which usually end up in the D-League or plying their trades in Europe a few years after the fact.”
Come on. The Raps could not have offered what Milwaukee could – a cap dump (small – but still).
The Raps would have to send someone back – and we all know they could have gotten someone back if they wanted – and since they didn’t, it’s pretty clear that they didn’t want anyone back. So… we could not have done this trade.
Disagree
I don’t believe Dorsey’s contract is guaranteed so why couldn’t they have matched salaries and offered a second-round pick to Jersey?
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
by Adam Francis on Jun 23, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
CDR
Maybe they had to reserve the roster spot and extra dollars for more significant moves than CDR. We can’t look at these moves in isolation, as much as we want activity, there were a bunch of moves made last year and…well…
This time around, I’m not going to get overly bothered by one piece added here or there. Seeing how well all of the pieces compliment each other come November is of more concern to me.
I can’t help but think that Milwaukee over achieved last year and we as Raptors fans should know better than to confuse volume with value. They’ve added meh players to a team that surprised under a coach with a short shelf life. Nothing to get too worked up over.
By "They" I mean the Raptors, but in addition
CDR was drafted in the second round, traded for a second round pick by a team that almost lost the most games in NBA history. You would think the Nets would hold onto whatever talent they perceived themselves as having, especially with a billionaire owner for whom resources are seemingly not an issue. Something has to be said about other teams passing him up on multiple occasions, including via trade, not just the Raptors. We need a little more than CDR occupying roster space if we intend to be serious about a rebuild.
It would make sense that the Raptors priority at the moment is acquiring as much projected star potential talent as possible via trades and the draft, worrying about the filler a little later. What if the 850K made the difference between getting a Kirilenko or not getting him, from the perspective of a GM who intends to go over the luxury tax to make a push and so knows that every surplus dollar will really mean two dollars?
by HQ Interloper on Jun 23, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m all about value.. but the fact that CDR is even being blogged about here is probably more than can be said in Milwaukee I bet. :)
I still think you can do more with DVD-Rs. You get more space.
Love it
I’d move a mid-first-rounder for a DVD-R for sure ha ha ha.
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
by Adam Francis on Jun 23, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
At the same time, there are COUNTLESS examples of teams ditching talented players so they can get as far under the cap as possible, and that coming back to haunt them down the road. Considering the mess that Jersey was last year, not sure you can properly assess anyone on that club.
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
by Adam Francis on Jun 23, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
i think the raptors should draft avery bradly and keep in mind that we are drafting hi, to play defense our perimeter defense sucks so much that we need bradly badly i’m willing to over look all his ball handling and what ever if he can play solid d and i heard he has a great work ethic so he will probably be a good player
by raptors_run_the_show on Jun 23, 2010 2:13 PM EDT reply actions
PS ON CDR
Chad Ford, ESPN Insider: Not true on CDR. The Nets held a team option. They could’ve let him go for nothing.
So sounds like this wasn’t simply a move to clear cap space, the Nets valued CDR to at least the point of trying to get something in return.
Therefore the Dorsey idea would have worked as both have “team options.”
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
I couldn’t agree more about the draft, although I’m puzzled about George’s comparisons to DeRozan. George took nearly half of his shots from behind the 3 point line. Last time I checked, that wasn’t really in DeRozan’s wheelhouse.
I don’t really understand the desire for Chris Douglas-Roberts. It’s not that I don’t think he’s got talent, but do the Raptors really need ANOTHER young shooting guard? Is he really going to be that much better than DeRozan, Weems or Belinelli?
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