Tip-In: Toronto Raptors' Post-Game Report - Benefit to Missing Bosh?

You forgot another added benefit. We won’t be getting our own pick back in a sign-and-trade for Bosh. Can you imagine how humiliating it would be if BC had to take back our 1st round pick from Miami if Bosh signed there. Imagine if he couldn’t even get that?
Forget how Hedo has played this season. My biggest problem with him is things like last night. Just bizarre that he would suffer a similar injury as Bosh the night after the team loses Bosh for the season. Sigh. I do not think it is as serious as Bosh’s injury but if I recall, didn’t he get hit in the face earlier this season which prompted him to wear a mask or something. Maybe I just dreamed that part.
I am edging towards jumping on the “Bargsbust” bandwagon. I realise that Bargnani will probably have a long career in the NBA (assuming he can stay healthy, blah, blah blah) but if you are building your team around him you have a serious problem. I just do not think he cares enough to be an elite player. Maybe he will mature into that role but as of right now, URRRRRGGGGHHHHH.
I won’t talk about what will happen next year as I am sure yall will make a post at some point about that and I will comment then.

Why is Triano not playing Marco, he was brought in as a scorer not to keep score from the bench. we desperately need scoring with Bosh down yet JT can’t seem to find a spot in the rotation for Belinelli. How is he supposed to come out of his slump if he doesn’t play. I could not believe some of the line ups that Triano had out there last night at the end of the game. Its time he really think about Bargnani’s minutes, he seems lost out on the perimeter, he is aiming his shots instead of just shooting it. He was terrible last night again. Turk down and you have your only other 3 point shooter on the bench. BC has to really evaluate JT contract at the end of the year and buy him out and get us an NBA coach that has been through the grind…..

I truly agree with your point about us beating Detriot or New York, the way we look right now, I really don’t think the team has any confidence to beat anyone. But with help we will make the post season…..If the Bulls beat us on Sunday then we don’t deserve to….raps4life

So, if they crap out and lose every game sans Bosh, then he leaves the team, then what? Another complete rebuild? That’s the silver lining?

first time here and, unfortunately with huge reason. but not Raptors players reason, no, the reason is " fans". I follow HQ for couple of years, and mostly am satisfy with the level of quality in your observation of Raptors ( team, games, players ), but last couple of weeks you are behiving like you are not Raptors’ fans but Raptors’ bloody executors. What is your problem, so called fans? Are you frustrated with your own miserable lifes and you found a way to forget your own problems by shitting the whole organization, not only the players?
If the answer is “yes” then you are not fans, no?
This team has a problem ( more correct is " problems " ), but now when is so tough and when cold heads are needed the most, we fans need to give ful support to our team. Players will come and go, but the team stays and we with the team.
Most of you are so biased toward the players that is embarrasing to read how Jack is brilliant and Jose is “garbage”. Shame on you, so called fans! Couple of months ago, you all sing a song of victory and lifted the same players to the Heaven, dreamed of 4thplays in playoff and now? My question is: " are you mad at yourself for high hopes and disapointments for flying so high two months ago OR at players?
Bottom line is, the team needs fully support, the players need OUR support ( put yourself in their possition, they are human beings like you and I, and if we are down, do we need support or dagger in the back ). The whole league wants Raptors to go down, maybe there is hidden agenda behing that, I don’t know, but I know NBA doesn’t want Raptors to win, American TV houses doesn’t want to broadcast canadian team, other club’s fans laugh on OUR team, and what we do??? JOIN to them instead to give full support to our team, our players – OUR SUPPORT AND RESPECT TO OUR PLAYERS.
I needed to say this, sorry for mistakes, english is and always will be my second language, bug my love for Raptors is and will always be my FIRST CHOICE.

Yes we are fans, but not idiots. I don’t really want to read sugarcoated articles, I hear enough of that from Matt Devlin. Jose has been playing like crap, same with Hedo and we can say whatever we want. You sound like you would make a fine leafs fan :). People still show up to watch the games, I’m not sure what other support you are looking for. Fact is we just witnessed a team drop from 5th and possibly 4th to 8th or possibly 9th for no aparent reason other than lack of focus and determination. Let’s not forget who the millionaires are, and who the fans are. The players should demand our support and respect, not the other way around.

Funny how it is said over and over again that this is how the team will look next year without Bosh. Last year, it was said that no one would want our pieces and the team would pretty much look the same as it did. And yet for Roko Ukic and Carlos Delfino’s contract the team got two pretty solid pieces, included a player lauded by those behind this site.

Conclusion:

We don’t really know how this team will look next year but know that it (and many of the teams around it) will look very different. I’m not going to speculate about next year until next year.

The issue is this, and this has been the one area the team has failed more often than not in its existence — coaching. I harp on it because it’s true. There are those who will coaching doesn’t matter that much because it’s not football or even college ball and there are few occasions where micromanagement is necessary, but I think those who would make that point aren’t looking at it properly.

The coaching that often matters is the type we do not see. One thing that has struck me as really disappointing about this team in particular is how ill prepared it has been to handle adversity in games (even how ill prepared it has been to handle tip offs sometimes)

The blow-outs are a sign not of a major talent disparity, because in a league dictated by how well teams match up, talent differences aren’t THAT great, instead they are a sign of ill pre-game and in-game preparedness. The gameplan devised is faulty, instead of strengths being capitalized on, weaknesses are continuously exposed. Funny how the two of the more disappointing teams in the conference this year, Bulls and Raptors, have two coaches who often look out of their element.

If they could find that good coach first, I wouldn’t mind sitting through a 3 or 4 year re-build because I know there will ultimately be a payoff. With Triano, who might be a good company man, I don’t see that payoff on the horizon.

Hire Butch Carter.
 

Did you really expect Raps to beat Cleveland at home without Bosh, when they have lost 4 games all year, or Boston without Bosh and Turkoglu? The equivelant would be take KG and Pierece (39pts in game) off of Boston and then you can maybe compare them to Rap’s.

Nothing wrong with the effort vs Celtics, Rap’s down 2 at 73-75 with 2mins left in 3rd when Jack replaced Jose. Ray Allen, and Finley then went off for 24 pts, and game out of reach, as defense fell apart in their coverages.By the way Bellinelli got 3 mins with zero results at that time. Who did you expect was going to make up the 35pts/16 rebounds that CB and Turk average?

 Raps problem is not offense avg 105.6 last 3 losses, its still lack of focus on defense avg 113.6 against last 3 gms. not going to beat anyone like that.

Nothing wrong with efforts of AB (17pts, 5rbs, 4blks) except his shots not falling (1/7 3pt)
and Calderon 9asts, 4pts, and his shot (2/6) not falling the last 3 games) but he had the Rap’s behind by 2pts when he turned the game over to the 4th quarter hero Jack, who despite his heroics has managed 3 4th quarter losses.

Bargnani is not ready ,or able to take over Bosh’s role as Franchise player, leader, and go to player when the offense struggles, he may some day, or may never be able to grow into that role.

The way the nba is all the good teams have been together for a few years with both players and coaches. We will never be able to build like OKC because they do it through the draft and the one year we had a chance to get a good player from the draft the scouts drop the ball and convince BC to take Bargs when Brandon Roy was available. So I see some positive signs on the Raps with the young players, Weems will be a very good player in the league, just is 2nd year, DD will be a good player, rookie, Amir is only getting better, he is still young with a ton of nba experience, resign Bosh, Keep Jack and Banks, Bargs as a back up Centre, try and move Hedo and Jose, a lot of teams would love to have Jose as their pg or back up and BC should be able to get something back for him and then there is Bosh who the team have to do whatever it takes to keep him, if he leaves, then try a sign and trade and get something in return…….So about 3 new pieces not a blow em up and rebuilt from scratch….r4L

This organization had so many agendas going into this season that is it really a surprise, looking back, that things went sour?

1. Mandating that we get a rookie minutes against other teams starting units even though he was clearly overmatched.

2. Making sure Hedo was happy and rested by allowing him to miss training camp and ease into the season.

3. Not correcting or disciplining Bargnani for lack-lustre defensive play because his GM has staked his reputation on him.

4. Leaving all of the above to a rookie coach who is only there because the GM or Ownership want him there as good P.R.

With all of this going on, AND the distraction of having Bosh in his contract year, is it really that hard to believe how things have gone?

Hate to be down on the Raptors. Let’s face it Toronto is not a basketball town. McGrady, Carter and Marion are big names that won stick around. We got Euro players but not the right tough ones. Bargnani, Calderon, Turkoglu, Bellini,….. are inconsistent players who perform one day and disappear in the next game. They simply do not like to play the inside game. Forwards that cannot draw fouls, defenders that cannot stop penetration and get rebounds. We need to revamp the line-up, get players with some toughness, that can penetrate, shoot and rebound well and not one-dimensional players. Just check the poor assists figure, foul shots, and turnovers.