RaptorsHQ Goes Live from Bryan Colangelo Press Conference
by Adam Francis on Apr 19, 2010 8:00 AM EDT
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PrintAnd now, the moment we've all been waiting for...
...maybe.
At noon today, Raptors GM and President, Bryan Colangelo, will be speaking to the media and in essence, trying to explain just what went wrong this season...
Do I expect candid answers on why this was perhaps the biggest bust season in Dino-history?
Not exactly.
However today's press conference featuring the former Mr. Legomaster should be very interesting.
As I've discussed in the past, the Toronto Media has traditionally been pretty tepid in terms of their queries towards Bryan Colangelo. However tomorrow I'm expecting things to get a lot more heated if last Thursday's exit interviews were any indication. The media finally got after Jay Triano, asking him some tough questions, and considering the general tone of some of the mainstream publications of late in regards to BC, I expect the knives to come out.
Or at least the spoons.
We'll be there to help urge things on and of course, would love some feedback from HQ Nation. Fire us any questions you'd like us to ask Colangelo and we'll do our best to get them in during the given time slot. We'll the inane "is Chris Bosh/Jay Triano coming back" type questions to the Doug Smith's of the world but tops on my mind are queries like:
-How can this team look to improve now that it's so financially boxed in?
-Did you jump the gun on the Andrea Bargnani and Marco Belinelli extensions?
-Why did it take so long for Jay Triano to make the necessary adjustments to the starting line-up? Was any of that your decision?
-Many basketball statisticians accurately predicted Hedo's issues, the defensive woes of the original starting unit, etc, etc...Is their a lack of statistical insight within management?
-In a year when you needed to show Chris Bosh that you were serious about winning games now, why draft such a project in DeMar DeRozan over various other experienced college players like DeJuan Blair, Ty Lawson, Darren Collison...all of whom had much better rookie seasons than DeMar.
You could go on and on.
What I want to hear though, is Bryan Colangelo tell it like it is. He screwed up this offseason from front to back; signing Hedo, extending Marco and Andrea prematurely, and maybe even drafting DeMar DeRozan. Even the Amir Johnson trade was no steal considering that Carlos Delfino was great for Milwaukee...
...not to mention that BC almost waived Sonny Weems.
Now, fans are left with possibly a Bosh-less franchise, and not much room to bring in help.
Someone needs to be held accountable for this mess and today marks the first opportunity to hear the man in charge try and explain just what went wrong.
So fire us some questions, and follow along with the presser via Raptors.com (I believe they'll be streaming it live on their site) and us via twitter. (www.twitter.com/raptorshq.) We'll be providing running commentary and analysis and of course will collect our thoughts for a full analysis tomorrow morning.
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Other question you won't hear (not from this blog)
Why didn’t you call out Nr 4 attitude when, coming back from the ASG, he stopped playing?
How can you expect (were you expecting) Nr 7 to become a go to guy when he has been asked to be a system player in a system where feeding the superstar is option1,2,3?
Or even better,,,,
how to you let all the Bargnani fans down easy and tell them he will never be more than Mehmet Ukur (pre-achillies)?
Dave "Howland" Randell
Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com
by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Apr 19, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Thank you...
High time these type of comments got called out on this site!
Opinion are like ice cream flavoours
the more the better, but it is also abou time you can’t say anything about Nr 4 without falling on your knees and raising your arms towards heaven?
About you Mas11, what do you plan to do next to brings tose who have a different opinion than yours, tell your mum?
Franchise: before (implicitally) accusing me of being loveblind on Andrea, could you do some self analysis on Chris?
Some Bosh questions have to be asked but I’m guessing the Star etc will go on those. If not, I’ll ask a few as well. I would like to know though where he views Andrea if Bosh leaves – aka, is this the new face of the franchise?
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
by Adam Francis on Apr 19, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Let’s expand on that thought…
Okur Wins Produced
05-06 / 0.157 WP48 / 9.6 Wins Produced / 19.08 PER / 26 years old
06-07 / 0.088 WP48 / 4.4 Wins Produced / 18.19 PER / 27 yeas old
07-08 / 0.097 WP48 / 4.8 Wins Produced / 15.15 PER / 28 years old
08-09 / 0.082 WP48 / 2.4 Wins Produced / 17.59 PER / 29 years old
09-10 -0.003 WP48 / -0.1 Wins Produced (after 53 games) / 15.65 PER / 30 years old
Bargnani Wins Produced
06-07 / -0.103 WP48 / -4 Wins Produced / 12.85 PER / 21 years old
07-08 / -0.146 WP48 / -5.7 Wins Produced / 10.96 PER / 22 years old
08-09 / -0.026 WP48 / -1.5 Wins Produced / 14.66 PER / 23 years old
09-10 / -0.7 WP48 / -0.012 Wins Produced (after 78 games) / 15.6 PER / 24 years old
So basically, Bargnani needs to take a massive leap in the next year or two to even be considered above average / on Okur’s level.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Apr 19, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Produced wins...
Would the wins produced have anything to do with who he is playing with?
My fellow DS
you keep missing my point. I never argued on who is better, I have always been arguing about one side calling f from some (you included).
Those seem like inconsequential questions....
If he wasn’t going to call out Hedo for attitude issues (locked in 4 more years), why would he call out the guy they are trying to secure. I also think CB4’s attitude about playing was the least of this teams worries. He was still a beast.
Why are we still trying make excuses for Bargnani, he didn’t seem to play any better when he was option 1 (Bosh injury) except for a few games against bad teams.
More importantly he should have been asked why he tends to sign individuals that have a lack of focus and self motivation.
And that's not a good thing...
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
by Adam Francis on Apr 19, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I have to say, BC does have a track record of being relatively transparent when it comes to addressing the media/fans. Take the question period he took with the fans a few weeks ago, where he basically stated that he would be trading one of the point guards in the off season! Not saying this excuses the decisions he’s made, just saying it should be an interesting press conference.
Questions I’d love to have you focus on:
- The Bargani, Bellinelli extensions are a must. Especially the Bargani signing in the context of the timing of the signing. For example, compare it to the deal David Lee got last summer and the fact that Bargs would have had to compete with all the other free agents in "The Greatest Free Agent Market of All Time" this summer, in an era when teams are budget conscious, if BC would have waited.
- Would love to hear his position on the Turk signing. I can kind of understand how he talked himself into it last summer – need to prove to CB4 we would get him a 2nd bannana, just came off a deep play off run bla bla bla… But I would like to know his views on Turk now, and what (if anything) he intends to do,
- Finally, would love some clarification on his "one PG will be traded" comments from last month on the FAN 590…
Will you be hiring a big man coach for Bargs & Amir ?
How much rest will Hedo require this time around after the worlds :) ?
Will you be helping Triano look for his BALLS !!! ?
Whatever happened to the 3 million dollars,where did that go ? towards Sam ?
Feel free to use any of the above questions?
More goodies – nice. I think some of these the mainstream guys will ask re: Triano and Hedo but I’ll chime in when possible.
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
by Adam Francis on Apr 19, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Just stand up and say “Check it, you know how i be, next year the raptors are going to suck without CB.” than say “BC- tell me how my ass tastes???”
Seriously though, i would ask about what kind of player he plans on drafting? Would he go with a big like Lawal or Aldrich to address the lack of post-presence on this team.
Great question regarding the draft. I’m guessing he’ll answer that “it depends on the Bosh situation and which way he thinks he’s leaning” but I’ll fire that one out for sure if no one else does.
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
by Adam Francis on Apr 19, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Questions
I’d like you to ask him if the failures of recent seasons have caused him to re-evaluate his team-building philosophy (more of a defensive emphasis).
Also, Toronto fans seem to gravitate to a certain type of player (hustler/grinder types). Is that something that he is/should be aware of when making roster decisions?
I’d also love to hear what happened to that $3 million earmarked for buying a draft pick.
This is a big one in my mind…I expect Grange or Arthur to ask it early on but yes, has the team-building philosophy been incorrect from day one?
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
by Adam Francis on Apr 19, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Love these questions...
Any indications/answers provided at the presser HQ crew?
Hedo Rumour....
ESPN insider ….I dont have :“he Insider” what are they saying …
re: Hedo Rumour
basically quotes a newpaper article from national post
and then goes on to add that maybe that can s&T bosh with hedo in a trade
Writes Eric Koreen of the paper: “Turkoglu’s first year with his new team went horribly, and four more years loom on a contract that is quickly becoming an albatross … There is the possibility Turkoglu will never have another training camp as a Raptor. His contract, with $44 million remaining, seems as if it would be hard to unload, although other teams might want to rid themselves of similar millstones.”
And that’s the thing here: If those around the league now view Hedo as a malcontent, it may hinder Toronto’s ability to unload his contract for anything worthwhile.
If the Raptors do try to trade him, it’s possible Hedo could be packaged in a sign-and-trade with Chris Bosh this summer.
As ESPN’s John Hollinger wrote this week, Turkoglu’s contact with the Raptors came, in part, due to his playoff performance a year ago.
Hedo’s not going anywhere. I’ll discuss tomorrow morning but from the sounds of it, both Triano and Hedo will be in camp to start next season.
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
by Adam Francis on Apr 19, 2010 2:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not really a rumour...
Just referring to this National Post article that wonders if he’ll be back next year:
But lets get the wheels turning:
Dalembert for Turk and Marco (Least likely… Dalembert has too few years left and Turk is too similar to AI… 3 team deal?):
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y82a28w
Turk for Bierdrins (Nelson loves his point forwards… could even do Maggette… also the Warriors are crazy enough to do it):
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y3ak4ur
Turk for Okafor (and possibly… Collison… maybe? Sweeteners required… but NO has soured on Okafor… not a good fit for Paul… but does NO really want a ball dominator next to Paul?)
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y6guwwa
Not unrealistic… but I’ll concede some homer bias… but it’s not over blown.
by lessthanzero on Apr 19, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
If you wanted to target someone who Philly would love to dump you could go for Brand. If I recall, one of the writers on this site pointed out that he would be a much better fit for Toronto considering the offense is already geared to the PF and Turk would address a number of issues Philly has with ball handlers.
The other trades are okay but the Okafor trade is not something I would want to do. He has as many years and is actually more money and more of a bust than Hedo is. If you are going to take on a worse contract than Hedos then it should be either shorter in length but more money or the player better at least be serviceable and I am not convinced Okafor is even serviceable at this stage.
I'll take anything at this point....
Beggars can’t be choosers to a certain extent.
But there’s hope… BC let it slip… he said IF Turkoglu is back next year! IF! That’s all I wanted to hear from the press conference… that little slip tells me everything I want to hear… or rather it’s the first of many things after Bosh… but to me it all starts with addressing the mess that is Turk.
by lessthanzero on Apr 19, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Some of these scenarios are quite plausible although hardly home-runs. But yes, beggars can’t be choosers and BC may have to take whatever he can get back. However based on his talk with the media today, doesn’t sound like Hedo’s going anywhere.
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
by Adam Francis on Apr 19, 2010 2:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wow
I would be over the moon with any of those moves
Walker McKenna
by Robert Archibald on Apr 19, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd love for this to go down
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y3j3m2d
Raptors Get:
- Gilbert Arenas
- JaVale McGee (expiring contract, team option i believe)
- Al Thornton (expiring contract)
Wizards Get:
- Andrea Bargnani
- Jose Calderon
- Marcus Banks (expiring contract)
Arenas is done as a star player
You’re taking on an even WORSE contract for someone that may never average 20ppg again.
Press Conference Recap
Got the whole thing on tape and will be transcribing it tonight for a full analysis. I got in most of the questions I wanted but it was hardly a satisfying experience. BC dodged all blame alluding to chemistry and injury issues as the reason for a season that went awry.
There were a lot of PR and foggy answers thrown around as well…not exactly surprising but not exactly what the fanbase needed to hear either…
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
by Adam Francis on Apr 19, 2010 2:50 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
B.C. mentioned that we lost a key guy to injury
Did the Bucks not lose a key guy ?
re key guy
Yes Bucks lost a key guy, but not the mainstay of their offence who every day averaged a min 24pts and 11 rbs min per game, and who every play is dependent on him being there,
for 38/40 mpg, and being out for 13 of the last 30 games or 45% plus getting back in to game shape..
BC also said that was a major factor but not the only one for the 11-19 finish.
Actually Milwaukee lost their 2 best players and still made the playoffs. Everyone forgets about Redd.
Yeah but...
Losing Redd is almost the same as losing McGrady. Both guys are detriments to your team because they’re both ball hogs.
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious
by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Apr 20, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm as frustrated as anyone else BUT
Did anyone really expect plans to be laid out in public….that will really help our bargaining position. No we did not get much clarity today…nor should we have. Look, I’m not defending BC’s moves. This year has been a disaster. But to come today and lay out to the fanbase what management is going to try and do may have made us fans feel better but would have made any moves that much more difficult.
Don't be frustated BC
He said the most important things very simply. He is just as disapointed and frustrated with this years results himself.
His objective is to have a winning franchise, with an objective of a min of 50 wins next year, and ongoing, and has MLSE commitment to spend what he needs (over the tax limit) to achieve his & MLSE’s objectives.
What more do you need or expect from him???
re foggy answers
What’s foggy about creating a 50 wins team ongoing , and having MLSE opening the purse strings to let him create and go into the TAX limit to do it ?? What more do you expect from him?? He is here, going nowhere, and that’s his job. No options but to let him do it. Criticizing him now for this year’s 40 wins, is a waste of time and effort, much better to speculate on FA’s, trades, and the draft.
The job of a GM
it’s the only job where you HAVE to say you did a good job if you want to try and fix mistakes.
Are you going to say Hedo isn’t worth his contract? That it was a mistake? that would kill all trade value
Same goes with Bargnani.
I’m surprised so many of you were calling for BCs accountability. If he had done that we would be in a much worse negotiation position with our assets.
BC News Review and Q&A
His objective for 2010/2011 is to move the team from 40 wins to at least 50 wins per seasons thru FA signings and or trades. Has MLSE ok to go into Tax level to do it as he sees fit.
Wants CB back as a Max player. Triano, Bargnani, Turkoglu, DeRozan, Weems, all back and improved. Johnson wants to come back and BC wnts to sign him.
Everyone else open to review, and or replacement. Needs to emphasize DEFENSE !!!
If Bosh does not come back it’s a whole new ball game, subject to what the get on a sign and trade.
Head over to www.raptors.com
they have the full video
Watching the replay of the press conference right now...
… and I can’t believe the garbage coming out of Colangelo’s mouth about Bargnani. It’s one thing if he’s simply trying to elevate Bargs’ value for the benefit of delusional GMs. If he TRULY believes this crap, then this franchise doesn’t have a chance until Colangelo is fired.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Apr 19, 2010 6:23 PM EDT reply actions
Just to expand on this thought
He’s talking about Bargs stepping up offensively if Bosh leaves. Meanwhile, in Reality World, Bargs has failed to step up (and has actually played statistically WORSE) with Bosh out of the lineup.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Apr 19, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to mention him defending the Bargani contract eventhough no one asked about it… His argument ’It’s a great contract" with absolutely no facts or arguments to back it up.
There’s no doubt the Raptors are better off in the Colangelo era, if you want to simply bring up average wins over a period of time. Fair enough.
But he has failed to build a foundation for continued success like Sam Presti in OKC – there’s a team that’s going to win 50+ games for over a decade (and possibly multiple NBA titles) based on patience, shrewd moves, and an eye for the budget.
Meanwhile, BC is entertaining serious thoughts about paying the luxury tax to marginally improve a 40-win team.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Apr 19, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
He compared it to the Aldridge contract. If you ask me, Bargnani is far more versatile offensively and his contract is a bargain compared to Aldridge’s. I thought this was a fair point.
Unfortunately, basketball is played at both ends of the floor. Lots of talk about offence. Colangelo’s lone piece of evidence about Bargs’ defence was quoting a box score stat that he blocks 1.5 shots per game. Further evidence that this organization is paying no attention to any kind of advanced statistical measures.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Apr 19, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not trying to argue that Colangelo was masking things today. He was, but that’s expected. I was happy that he genuinely tried to answer every question as honestly as he could. If a GM in this league screws up, I can almost bet that they wouldn’t start beating themselves up over it. I take Bargnani over Aldridge any day of the weak. I think Bargnani is a good man to man defender and BC was open about the fact that his weakside defence needs work. Look we can beat him up over the past as much as you want. At some point, it gets tiring to hear skepticism about every move someone in the organization makes. If you WANT to find bad things to say, you’ll most certainly find a way to do so. Listening to the presser today, I came out feling optimistic knowing this GM was committed to the team and he’s willing to do what it takes to rectify his errors and improve the situation at hand. I felt like he knows he screwed up and was humbled by the season. It’s not even me being optimistic, it’s be being unbiased and impartial. I respect the work and the effort you put in on a daily basis, I hope you can find positives from today’s presser.
No offense but Aldridge is better in every category other than blks, 3 pointers and free throw percentage (5% difference).
I realize that, but at their respective salaries, Bargnani’s a bargain. His ability to shoot 3s gives him an added dimension too.
Kumbaya
Hey DS and VD,
Sorry if I was a little over the top in my comments yesterday. We are all passionate Raps fans here, half full or half empty. We can disagree but I shouldn’t get personal.
And on that note, both those last comments are over the top. I think there is a chance Bargs improves next year if Bosh walks and having a 2 time Exec of the year walk wil not help. I have MUCH less faith in MLSE finding a capable replacement than I have in BC. Call me insane, but most of BC’s moves looked good to me and seemed to make sense at the time (aside from Hedo and Kapono, but no one is perfect).
Mushy stuff over.
Walker McKenna
by Robert Archibald on Apr 19, 2010 6:37 PM EDT reply actions
No need for apologies whatsoever. I can always agree to disagree.
The problem with Bargs is he’s 24 years old and has been in the league four years. Typically, you won’t see a big leap after the fourth year. If it happens with Bargs, he’ll be the exception, not the rule.
BC is great at smaller trades (think Delfino and Ukic for Johnson and Weems). And he’s usually good at recognizing and fixing mistakes (Fred Jones and Jermaine O’Neal leap to mind).
But my problem with BC – on the heels of listening to him today – is that he is absolutely blinded and delusional when it comes to Bargnani and to a lesser extent Turkoglu. Sitting down to address the media and claiming that a 31-year-old Hedo is going to IMPROVE next season is just insulting.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Apr 19, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
No worries
Like I responded in the other thread, don’t worry. I’m probably more negative on this situation right now because I was defending Colangelo quite a bit to the other HQ staffers. I know it may seem like I’m being very Feschuckian about all of this, but I think that there is no easy building process from here.
As for today’s conference, I’m not too shocked by anything Colangelo has said. I’m not going to ask him to be accountable for much because I know he has to maintain an image throughout it all. What I want to see is action that proves something. That’s all that has ever mattered to me. What these guys say will always have an element of a smoke screen and that’s understandable.
I will say this… I’ll probably have no reason to wear my Calderon jersey after the summer is over. That makes me kinda sad.
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious
by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Apr 19, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
i might not have any reason to wear my bosh jersey after this season
by raptors_run_the_show on Apr 19, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
lol. I think there’s a higher chance that I won’t be wearing my Calderon jersey than you not wearing your Bosh one
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious
by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Apr 19, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Raptors-Wizards Trade
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y3j3m2d
Raptors Get:
- Gilbert Arenas
- JaVale McGee (expiring contract, team option i believe)
- Al Thornton (expiring contract)
Wizards Get:
- Andrea Bargnani
- Jose Calderon
- Marcus Banks (expiring contract)
this has to be BC's last chance
BC has failed alot of times and im getting frustrated with him at the helm i think we as fans need to demand his firing next season if he doesnt make good moves
by raptors_run_the_show on Apr 19, 2010 6:52 PM EDT reply actions
Defending BC and AB
I think the Raptors are in much better shape now than they were before BC arrived. I also think Bargnani will be an all-star in two years, and I thought aspects of his defense were decent-above average.
Just finished watching the Presser on Raptors TV
One prevailing theme that irked me was BC’s multiple referances to the “minority” and the media drumbing up “angst” that was unreasonable. Well I totally disagree. The angst is not coming from the media but from fans. To go out there and say that the team is not as bad as it seems after they shit the bed this season is one thing, I expect the PR spin. However, to try and argue that there is a conspiracy of sorts against you is either disingenuous or a sign of borderline megalomania or paronoia.
Oh crap...
I’m starting to sound like Feschuk… Guess he got the same sense from the press conference as I did. From his post conference article:
“But he also maintained that the team "isn’t as bad as the picture’s been painted" and called his perceived detractors "The Frenzied Movement." That’s a good name for a crappy rock band, not to mention a possible symptom of paranoia.”
let's not get too worked up here folks
the guy is saying what he has to shake and bake this summer. of course it’s going to sound completely ridiculous to us, but it has to be done. I think we can all agree that this man is passionate about bball and if ANYONE was tearing strips off anyone in the exit interviews, you gotta think it was him.
and let’s not forget the stuff he pulled off last summer – though it hasn’t worked out – was pretty f*cking wizard-like with a capital big long pointy hat.
let’s give him this summer.
and not much more this summer is his last summer before fans start asking for his resignition i think someone even asked him about his own future in the press conference
by raptors_run_the_show on Apr 19, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
BC Replacement?
I really wonder.. who they’d get to replace him though. Any realistic suggestions available out there?
Don't want to talk about it much yet
Cause as much as I want to gripe about him, it’ll be at least a year before he’s replaced.
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious
by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Apr 19, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
One thing I forgot
I think there’s a real chance we’ll see a different set of assistant coaches at the end of summer. Something there is going to shake out for sure from Colangelo’s comments
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious
by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Apr 19, 2010 10:18 PM EDT reply actions
Please no more
Last summer, the same bunch who are criticizing Colanglelo today were impressed then with his trades in light of the tax cap situation. Now with 20/20 hind sight, he’s no good.
I just want a change from more years of a Bosh centered team. It hasn’t worked for years now with many different players brough in and yet many of you can’t seem to get enough of the same old thing.
Actually
Once again, not being revisionist, there were a lot of concerns about last year’s “impressive” trades. Considering the fact Colangelo was going to sign Hedo come hell or high water, the fact that they basically engineered a sign and trade out of thin air afterwards was quite impressive, but also spoke largely of the wrecklessness that was about to occur last summer. There were a lot of vocal people here in our own message board who were extremely glad that the trade happened the way it did not because of Hedo, but because of what pieces he got afterwards. No one is criticizing him for all his secondary players that he brought in as a result of that trade, because those guys were fine.
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious
by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Apr 20, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions
BTW – I wish I had seen this article before the press conference. I would have requested you ask BC the following.
“In order to keep your steak, would you trade your rent money for a slice of pizza and a can of sprite and then hand money over to a Teamster in case you need to move and he kind of looked good moving your coffee table from your living room to your family room, only it should be obvious that while you are doing this your steak will have been eaten by the dog?
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