Tip-In: Toronto Raptors' Post-Game Report - Coming Unglued
With 116 to 92 loss to the Houston Rockets last night, the Toronto Raptors have suddenly dropped four straight and are in danger of sinking from fifth in the East, all the way out of playoff contention. Franchise talks about the importance of Chris Bosh's return, especially in terms of the mental boost it could provide.
It's probably not a good thing when Marcus Banks is your best player on the court.
That was the case last night during a solid thrashing at the hands of the Houston Rockets, as the previously hot Dinos suddenly now find themselves with only two wins in their last seven games, and a mere half game up on the Chicago Bulls for fifth in the conference.
Oh, and did I mention now that Milwaukee is only a game back of Toronto themselves? Or that Miami is a game and a half back? How about Charlotte, currently out of the playoff picture, is technically a game and a half back as well while holding the tie-breaker over Toronto?
Suddenly the expression "don't count your chickens before they hatch" seems quite fitting in relation to the Raps and their playoff chances.
However I'm not too surprised here.
About a month ago I prognosticated that Toronto had to win 8 out of a stretch of 10 fairly easy games on paper, starting January 27th with the Miami Heat. My reasoning was that if there was ever a time to put some distance between themselves and the rest of their playoff competition, that was it considering games towards the end of February and into early March got much tougher. The Raps did exactly that, losing to only Memphis in OT and to the Indiana Pacers in a letdown game, crusing along through Feb.
Now it's a different story.
Toronto as mentioned has lost their last four straight and embark on a mini Western road swing next week before facing back-to-back Raptor-killers, the Hawks and Thunder the following weak.
To put it plainly, the Dinos' next two against the Knicks and 76ers later this week, are must-win games. With Chris Bosh still out, and Jose Calderon and now Hedo Turkoglu (ankle as well) banged up, the question is, can they win these next two?
Let's rewind a bit.
After Toronto's loss to Portland last week, I wrote an extensive piece on the Raptors minus Bosh, and that the team fans saw lose to a decent, but certainly not unstoppable, Blazers club, could be very close to what they'd see the following season should Bosh take his services elsewhere.
This touched off a firestorm of discussion of course with a number of great points being made.
Toronto promptly then took the Cavs to overtime in their next match, and while I didn't see it or the following match against OKC thanks to work travels to the UK, I wondered if perhaps I had been a bit too quick to jump the gun regarding my "Boshless Raptors" theory.
However after last night's loss to Houston, I'm feeling pretty good about my initial diagnosis.
There's not much point in extensively breaking down such a moribound performance but suffice to say, Toronto was never in this one. Yes, Jose was out and Hedo injured himself while the game was still reasonably close, but this one just had the feel of a blowout even quite early. Toronto's offensive sets were out-of-whack again, turnovers were rampant, and let's not even get into the defence.
Jay Triano post-game pointed out that without three of his four best players, this was a bit of a "what did you expect" situation. I agree, this one wasn't solely about a lack of Bosh (although who's the fourth best player Triano is referring to? Jack? Bargs?), but it's hard not to look at the big picture here and and say that with a 2 and 4 record minus CB4, this team just isn't very good.
Yes, they've had some tough opponents and maybe the team would be sitting with the same record had Bosh been healthy. But the fact remains that we don't know that for sure, and yet what we do know, is that in Bosh's absence, only Hedo Turkoglu and Jarrett Jack have really stepped their games up when needed. Players like Marco Belinelli and Sonny Weems just aren't and shouldn't be, top options on a club, and DeMar DeRozan is still a rookie in this league, regardless of the hype.
And I won't dig into Andrea too much here but 14 points and 6 rebounds ain't gonna work folks.
Those were his numbers from last night and essentially what he's been averaging while CB4 has been out; let's just say he's not exactly helping to build a case for his emergence if Bosh is gone next season. And for those who argue about him not being enough of a focal point on offence, he took 17 shots last night, almost twice as many as the rest of the team outside of Antoine Wright.
The danger here then is with another loss or two to finish this week, the Raptors suddenly find themselves in a very precarious position going forward. This now is about keeping a team from completely coming unglued and Bosh's return, emotionally more than statistically I'd argue, would go a long ways towards accomplishing this. It's tricky though because the club needs to solidify a playoff spot, both for the team this season and going forward in terms of retaining Chris Bosh. However it needs Bosh to help do it.
I believe Ricky from the Trailer Park Boys would refer to this as a catch 23 situation.
We don't know if Chris will be back for Friday's match, but I'm hoping he returns Sunday at the latest. The team is hanging on for its playoff life suddenly and while I won't go far as saying Bosh's return would be a lifesaver, it certainly could be that galvanizing force that this team looks to need so badly right now.
0 recs |
25 comments
|
Comments
Two things are needed to turn this around
The first is obviously the return of Bosh.
The second is moving DD to the second unit. I’m not suggesting the last few losses are just DD’s fault…they’ve been a real team effort. However, you cannot continue to give up double-digit leads early and expect to win.
I’ve paid close attention the last few games to how the opposition defends us. DD’s man plays so far off him its ridiculous. As I said earlier, his man is playing like a free safety making life difficult for everyone else.
There are several reasons for making the change:
1. Weems or Wright are better defenders. Let them play against the Kobe’s of the league and let DD play against the opposition backup.
2. The second unit runs more. This fits DD’s game better.
3. Lets not worry about what the change will do to his confidence. He has already lost it. He looks panicked if he has the ball towards the end of the shot clock. Let him regain the confidence with the 2nd unit. Besides, only a small handful of first rounders have started regularly (Evans, Flynn, Curry, Jennings, Casspi) with all of the others either hurt, Europe, D-League of coming off the bench.
I am just not sold on either Wright or Weems starting in DD’s place. The 2 spot is a massive black hole on this team and I for one would like to see the team try and address this issue somehow(not sure what they can do but there has to be something).
Agree about the team going forward. I am cringing right now waiting for the other boot to drop. This could be a double whammy as if the Raptors make the playoffs and get bounced in the 1st round again and Bosh bolts we will have no PF and no pick in the first round to address it. Considering the lack of success this franchise has had in drafting 2nd round picks, I don’t see much happening there either. Once again last season has come back to haunt us. BC’s decision to trade TJ Ford for Oneal may (in retrospect) have been one of the worst decisions he has made. The long term ramifications are staggering.
1. Toronto included their 1st round pick (Roy Hibbert) which would have been a nice player to slide into the starting lineup next year next to Bargs.
2. Toronto had to trade their 1st round pick from this season (lottery protected) in order to dump his salary.
3. Toronto missed the playoffs last year and even if they make it this year, will probably get bounced quickly which will only add to CB4s aggravation levels increasing his chances of leaving.
I feel so sad right now.
The Andrea Bargnani Fanboy Fantasy
So I guess we can end the talk of Andrea Bargnani emerging as the go-to option on this squad if Chris Bosh departs at the end of the season?
It’s funny how Andray Blatche has somehow managed to step up for Washington in the absence of guys like Haywood and Jamison. Yet Bargnani can’t elevate his numbers in the slightest with Bosh out.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Mar 2, 2010 9:59 AM EST reply actions
sigh:(
Yes, lets make judgement’s after one game. I’m sure Bosh never struggled when he was learning how to be a 1st option.
Unfortunately, it’s not based on one game. He’s actually regressed with Bosh out.
And remember: Bargnani is a 4th year player. We’re not talking about a rookie or sophmore here.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Mar 2, 2010 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
Really?
Please point to other games where he was established as a go-to option? Hey I admit that it wasn’t pretty last night but to write him off is premature. There were plenty of times that CB looked just as lost when he was establishing himself as a #1 option. I have no doubt that Andrea will learn from this experience and become better because of it.
I think you’re comparing Bosh from his rookie or soph year to Bargnani in year four. As McGateway mentions below, check the stats.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Mar 2, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
No
No, what i am doing is reminding everyone that Bosh had the luxury of being given every opportunity to learn what works and doesn’t work on the basketball court. To expect Andrea to achieve the same level of success as CB without the same amount of trial and error is unrealistic.
Trial and error… and talent. I’m pretty much willing to bet my house that Bargnani never approaches the statistical levels of CB4.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Mar 2, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Bargs
.
RapHQ
Andrea’s salary extension will see him make 10 million per season, as opposed to CB’s probable 21 million per season (6 years no less). This year, Bargs’ 6.5 million is roughly 41 % of Bosh’s salary. My point: CB’s probable salary, demands that he produce much more than Bargnani.
.
Will AB be as good as CB? Unlikely.
Is it possible? Maybe.
But aside from the occasional homer bias, no one is saying Andrea will be as good.
.
Last night`s match against Portland saw AB disappear after the 1st Quarter. But so did everyone else for that matter – the exception being Bankie and Wrightwinger. This game was crap. As it ended, I thought … if only this was an episode of Sliders. With a little luck, I could jump onto an alternate universe, and never know this nightmare existed. As Bargnani went cold, so did the game. Funny how we dismiss about building a team around Andrea, and yet it seems … that as AB goes, so goes the Raps. Of course I’m not saying we should build around him.
.
It`s games like Portland, that seem to bring up this … “wtf is with Bargnani`s game?” Does the reason for his lethargic play have anything to do with the Confidence Boogeyman arriving. In the 2nd quarter Andrea had 5 straight misses. After that – 2 shots – 2 misses.
.
Is the absence of Bosh the reason. Not sure on that one. After the 1st, Andrea seemed to pass up a good shot, dribble, then take a bad shot. By the 3rd quarter, his mojo was completely gone. Why? Maybe Jay needs to work on that one.
.
Then again, maybe AB really misses Bosh. Not so much for his production, but more as part of the puzzle that has managed to make us one of the top dogs in the League, for the past 2 & ½ months – the last 4 games notwithstanding.
.
On another note, I`m curious about a certain stat. Not sure if these Statistical sites track this, but I get the feeling that Bargs is better at the opening jump, then Bosh. Just a feeling from these past few games.
.
Have to say one thing about Banks – he impressed me again. 15 pts, 4 steals, 4 assists, and 3 rebounds. It can`t be easy to jump into a game, when you got splinters in your ass.
.
by RapthoseLeafs on Mar 2, 2010 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
In order for Bargnani to be successful he needs to play next to a player who will assume the duties of a typical NBA center, i.e. rebounds well and does a lot of their scoring from in close. It is just the way his game is designed, he likes to play away from the basket and only post up occasionally. Bosh has shouldered some of that role at times but Bosh also likes to play away from the basket so it took awhile for them to get used to each other. I do not think it is pure chance that Bargnani looked competent playing next to Jermain Oneal last year as Oneal filled the role of the center while Bargnani played the PF. If Bosh leaves and Toronto is looking for a fix, that would probably be the way to go.
As DS mentioned
It’s not exactly 1 game now
Since Bosh has been out, Bargnani has scored 20+ once (a 24 so it’s not even high 20s) and has not gotten more than 6 rebounds.
Another pattern has emerged. Bargnani is good for scoring in one half only. He tends to do this with Bosh in as well but it’s really noticeable without Bosh playing.
Sure Bosh struggled through his first 2 years but by year 3 he was pretty much established. He has improved since then but it has been incremental as opposed to by leaps and bounds. Bargnani seems to have peeked and it is a bit of a concern as if he is who you are building your team around you might be in trouble.
One of these things is not like the other
To compare Andrea and Bosh’s first 3 1/2 years in the NBA as equal is intellectually dishonest. Chris was given loads of opportunities to find himself on the basketball court and it has paid off. Andrea has not been given that luxury and rightly so because of the teams position in the standings.
How many more opportunities do you want him to get? He was given an a chance to start every year so far. Just because the Raptors sucked during Bosh’s first few years doesn’t change the fact that Bargnani has been given ample chances. To say that Bargnani is in the same class of talent as Bosh is intellectually dishonest. Bargnani is what he is, an 18 point 6.5 rebound center. He might improve here and there but he hasn’t shown that he can take over games even remotely.
The injury bug???
I am very tired of the Raptors this year having minor injury problems. You look at other teams in the league and you have ironman-type players that play through injuries. For example, this season, look at Brandon Roy and Chris Paul who played through their respective injuries. They have to literally be hobbling to be taken off the court.
I realize that it is a risk to play your top players, but could you not manage their minutes until they return to close to 100%? The Raptors are a deep team, but they cannot lose any member of their starting lineup and expect to win. I would leave it up to the players discretion whether they should play or not… you can’t treat them like they’re made of glass.
I agree that babying players creates a softness within the team. Having said that, people were critical of the team for letting Jose play through his injury last year and playing like a pilon on defense. Considering that this team absolutely relies on Bosh to make any sort push, you cannot risk aggravating the injury and caution makes sense. To me, you leave up to the doctors who are the most objective.
Injuries are an excuse. Portland has had a lot of players miss games and they are still competitive. True GS has had even more and have sucked but they would have sucked even if everyone was healthy. The simple truth is that the team we have assembled is unable to get it done when it matters and injuries are only exposing that truth not interfering with the teams ability to win.
Andrea
The thing about Andrea is that he has not yet developped the skill set to be a number one option. He has three consistent offensive weapons:
1. Jump Shot.
2. One bounce, jump shot.
3. Open lane, drive and dunk.
All good skills, but not number one option skills. He can’t create (yet) and has not shown the ability to create points (aka get to the line). Until he further develops his game he can’t be considered a number one option.
If Bosh is gone next season I think this team is going to have to rely on Hedo being the number one option. Draw your own conclusions.
Dave "Howland" Randell
Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com
by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Mar 2, 2010 12:17 PM EST reply actions
And to add another point, Bargnani is also terrible at passing out of the post. Which begs the question: Why would you run your offence through someone who is incapable of kicking it back out for an open look?
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Mar 2, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
lets be realistic.
This team is not a contender this year barely a pretender even with all the players healthy this is not the year and lets not get our hopes up.
what i want to see if players who aren’t cofident in thwir roles to get used to it and make the best out of it.
the only players who have taken the advantage of that is Amir and Weems sometimes, but DD has been given the opportunity to make something but is intead losing confidence in his spot. he is just not doing what he was doing earlier in the season.
Bargs
he is a very good shooter but it seems like he has hit a plateau in his career, since last season he has average around the same PPG and he is just not finding ways to improve.

















