Tip-In: Toronto Raptors' Post Game Report - Now or Never
Another atrocious third quarter, another bad loss. Toronto's recent losing slide continued last night as the team dropped a 124 to 112 decision to the Golden State Warriors, and Franchise looks at three areas that are in dire need of repair if this club hopes to get back on track...
It's one thing to lose to a Sacramento Kings team on the second night of a back-to-back, after a heart-breaking loss to the LA Lakers.
It's yet another to give up nearly 100 points through three quarters to a Golden State Warriors team that features recent D Leaguers Anthony Tolliver, Chris Hunter and Reggie Williams, after your club has been resting for three days.
Last night Raptors' fans again saw a return of the November 2009 Toronto team; the one that routinely gave up 120 points a night, the one that got blown out starting in the third quarter of games, the one that played zero perimeter defence and who got torched in transition, the one that struggled to rebound the ball, and the one that looked much more like a lottery team than a playoff contender.
And...with their fourth straight loss, and eighth in the past nine games, the lottery could very well be where this team is headed.
As DeMar DeRozan tweeted late last night:
"Damn man. We need to figure this out quick....."
And that's the crux of it.
These type of performances, Bosh or no Bosh, should have ceased months ago. There are no chemistry excuses here, no "getting to know new players" issues, no "working on new offensive or defensive sets that the coaches have implemented" situations. This team should be hitting its stride, or at least playing .500 ball now that the schedule has toughened up a bit.
Instead, fans have been left with what can only be described as pathetic performance after pathetic performance. I mean, Golden State essentially played six guys last night when you look at how their minutes were doled out! They were missing seven guys due to injury! This should have been a W no matter how hot Steph Curry and Monta Ellis got!
The problem is, unlike earlier in the season where you could easily point to one or two underperforming targets, right now, this is an entire team that's struggling.
Yes Chris Bosh had 24 points and 11 rebounds, but he also had a ridiculous six turnovers, and looked like his head was somewhere else. There was zero leadership shown on the court, and considering he pulverized his match-up almost every time he got down in the blocks, you have to wonder why he was settling for 15 foot fade-away jumpers so often.
Hedo was his usual terrible self, a solid 2 of 6 from the field for 4 points. "Oooh but he had 6 rebounds, 8 assists and 2 blocks" some might say.
To that I say shut it.
This isn't fantasy basketball, this guy is being paid $53 Million to make sure losses like this don't happen. If he needs to take 20 shots and score 30 points for it to happen, so be it. At least that way I could stomach his half-hearted rebounding attempts.
And speaking of rebounding, that brings me to Andrea Bargnani. Again, for those who think I've been too harsh on him the past few months I'd love to hear a defence of his performance last night, when he was outrebounded 11 to 4 by a player a good 3 to 4 inches shorter than him who wasn't even drafted. I'm sorry but you just can't win games like that. The Warriors are one of the worst rebounding clubs in the league and yet they won the battle of the glass last night, despite the fact that their average height is probably 6-6.
I could keep going around the circle too here; DeRozan and Calderon for their defense (although Jose's offensive game was the best it's been in weeks), Weems for his shot selection, and Belinelli for...um...not playing enough. I'm not sure what happened to Triano's whole "I'm going to give Marco some major run tonight" thing, but it never came close to occuring.
The entire team was horrific, and I'm not sure they could have beaten Kansas, Kentucky, Duke, Ohio State or West Virginia last night , five of the college teams competing for the four top seeds for the upcoming NCAA Tourney, let alone a club like the New Jersey Nets. And the problem is, Toronto's next three games are against very good opponents, two of which post tomorrow's match with the Blazers, are absolute Raptor-killers.
I guess what I'm saying is that we might not have even hit rock bottom yet, as bad as this last stretch has been.
So instead of simply three keys to beating the Portland Trailblazers later tonight, let's look at three keys to try and get this thing turned around before it's too late.
1) That thing called Defence.
No secret here. We all know how good Toronto's offence can be, so it really comes down to getting stops, particularly on the perimeter. It seemed like Triano and co. had things under control for a while, but lately there's been a complete regression in this capacity. I mean, it's gotten so bad that Marcus Banks, a player once seen as the bane of Raptors' fans existence, is now being touted amongst Raptornation as a possible solution to TO's perimeter woes! Even Jack Armstrong was openly lobbying for this on last night's broadcast! Does anyone else realize how crazy this is?
And yet it's not that crazy from a tactical standpoint. Banks is a solid perimeter defender and could probably help. It just slightly blows my mind that in the off-season I got killed for writing this piece, and yet, a good chunk of it now could come to fruition! If Banks does get the call and can come in as a defensive ace, it's not impossible that he helps to right the ship, therefore becoming a key in Toronto's late-season push. Yes folks, this is how bad things have gotten.
However it goes beyond personnel.
As John Hollinger stated in his harsh yet astute critique of the Raptors' defense, "The Raptors don't have good defensive players, and the coaching staff isn't getting much out of the players it has."
Steph Curry echoed those sentiments last night when post-game, he told Jack Armstrong that his team noticed that the Raptors were switching everything, thus giving the Warriors great advantages for their uber-quick guards thanks to mismatches.
I'm no NBA coach but it's easy to see that the current system with the current players isn't working. Therefore unless Triano starts playing Banks, or gives more minutes to solid defenders like Weems and Wright, then it's the system that needs an overhaul. Agreed, it's a bit late in the season to put something else in place but what about some more zone at least? That might be a good look in particular tonight against a Blazers' team that struggles shooting from long-range.
2) Rotations, rotations, rotations.
Last night Triano played 10 different players. I thought at one point Reggie Evans was going to make an appearance, so that would have made 11.
At this point in the season teams should be looking to trim their benches, not expand upon them, and yet to me, it looks like Jay's still trying to find rotations that consistently work. I'd argue that this too is having a negative impact on Toronto's D, so the sooner these first two points are addressed, the better for the Raps.
3) Will the REAL Chris Bosh please stand up?
When Bosh was injured I argued that without him, the Raps are simply not a very good club.
Now he's returned, and they look even worse.
However I think we can all agree that there is a BIG difference between this current version of Bosh, and the one that was destroying opponents prior to the All-Star break. Currently his stats just feel empty, even on double-double nights like yesterday evening, and this team desperately needs him to regain his form, starting tonight against Portland.
There are only 18 games left on the schedule and Toronto is hanging onto a playoff spot for dear life. Yes, the Bulls are banged up and have a tougher stretch to finish the season, but given this club's fragile mental disposition, it's not impossible that a loss tonight sends the Raps into a giant tailspin that sees them completely collapsing and missing the playoffs altogether.
That would be an unmitigated disaster for this franchise on many levels, and while I'm all for lottery picks, the simple fact is that talent-wise, there's no way this team should be in the precarious position it currently finds itself in.
I've presented three key issues that must be addressed, now it's up to the players and coaches to get this ship turned around.
One only hopes that any changes that are made aren't of the "too little, too late" variety.
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It is pretty sad that this team continues to show mental weakness at critical times. I know everyone will jump on Triano but at the end of the day, the players need to execute the defense regardless of what defense it is. This team continues to fall flat on its face, especially on the wings. The whole idea of signing Turk in the offseason was to improve the play at the wings. Instead, I actually miss Jamario Moon because at least he could rebound when he wanted to. I know BC wants doesn’t want to destroy the chemistry on the team but maybe he needs to swallow his pride and encourage Triano to start someone other than DD at the 2. At this stage, I don’t care who it is. Start Banks. Start Weems. Start Wright. Just start someone who can play some D. My vote is for Weems. Maybe his shot selection isn’t always the greatest but he has the most potential at the position right now and if you are going to give minutes to someone based on their potential, Weems is the man.
Just listened to Bosh’s post-game speech…wow, not good. Interestingly, he didn’t lay any of this on the coaching staff. In fact, he said that “if he was the coaching staff, he didn’t know what he would do.” He really called the team’s character into question and you gotta agree. Although it would have been nice for the media to ask about his play specifically last night too.
by Adam Francis on Mar 14, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
PS> The picture is priceless on so many levels. Not only does Hedo look like he asking Nelson to trade for him but Steph looks like he just smoked a big spliff.
Sorry
That should be "Maybe Bosh has hit the veteran’s wall.
max players don’t have veteran walls
by raptors_run_the_show on Mar 14, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
woooooow you cant put bargs on the same level as hedo
by raptors_run_the_show on Mar 14, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
i here by declare that bosh is not a max player because if im gonna pay someone max money i want them to preform each and every night and especially preform when there team needs it , bosh needs to step up plain and simple raptors cant win if bosh doesn’t play well
by raptors_run_the_show on Mar 14, 2010 1:32 PM EDT reply actions
I missed last night's game.....
Only got a chance to see a bit of the 4th quarter, but I can’t say I’m surprised at the result. Every team that plays an uptempo style of play beats the raptors. They get lulled into playing the opponents pace, and then their lack lustre conditioning comes back to bite them in the ass.
I’ll be watching tonight, but here’s a fearless prediction…..they’re gonna lose……and big!
From the looks of the box score, it’s hard to knock Jose’s performance last night, but despite what he brings on offense, I would prefer Banks’ defense. Our best play all season was when Jose was hurt. Please note that I am talking about how we played, not necessarily the results (I am aware that we won 8 of 10 with Jose before the all-star break). Our perimeter D was significantly better with Banks than it is with Jose.
Jay won’t do it though. The most he will do is sub Wright for DeMar, which I suspect won’t help much.
We switch all the time because our perimeter players can’t stay in front of anybody. Unfortunately, switching removes personal accountability, so guys don’t have to try as hard on the defensive end. That is the fundamental flaw with this defensive “system”. It caters to laziness, which our players have in spades.
I think the accountability point is huge
Switching is a cop-out and when Toronto was playing its best, individuals were locked in on their assignments. However without the personnel, some switching is definitely necessary, it’s just that it seems things have gotten a bit out of control.
by Adam Francis on Mar 14, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Overmatched
Jay Triano walks into the season with an idea for a defensive system that proves to be garbage. His players are perpetually embarrassed by the outcomes. Hedo complains about how he’s used and has subsequently resigned himself to not being used properly by this coach. Last three games he has been engaged in the first half enough to help the team build a lead and then disappears in the second half. Days off and practice time never seeming to translate to good performances = bad coaching.
The last three games have been a microcosm for the season as a whole, a solid first half that shows some promise, followed up by an embarrassing second half that kills all optimism.
Jay Triano has never been a favourite of mine and I’m basing it on the team’s performances going back to last year. Over the course of his tenure, his percentage of losses by double figures must be approaching the highest in the history of the league.
His strategy of letting players figure it out, to the point of not calling time outs in response to sizeable opponent runs has not only led to the lopsided losses, it also speaks to his complete lacking as an instructor because obviously the tools the players have been armed with are insufficient to allow them to figure anything out. Micromanage the damn game if you have to. Perhaps he lacks confidence in himself on the NBA stage, which causes him to concede authority in such a way that he is afraid to
really challenge players and hold them accountable.
Turkoglu, a veteran who has played for some of the more highly regarded coaches in the league recognizes this and in an act of passive aggression against a coach who doesn’t put him in position to succeed looks to be taking advantage of this at every opportunity to underwhelming effects.
Chris Bosh is a max player, if lip service were counted amongst key reasons for a contract.
As mentioned previously there are chemistry problems on this team and they exist between Calderon and Bargnani
I would like to publicly apologize to Sam Mitchel for criticizing his coaching acumen.
Bring back Butch Carter.
Why the GSW loss
Although transition and perimeter defense was not good, it was not the overriding reason for losing by 12 points.
Giving up 18 offensive rebounds, with GS taking 95 to 76 shots, and 24 points off 18 turnovers, and Raps only 14 off 11, had as much or more to do with the loss, giving fuel and confidence to the hot shooting GSW.
In the 3rd qtr the starters led by a useless Jack started, giving GS a 27-8 scoring run before JT took them out after 6 mins and brought in the 2nd unit. Jack was a minus 19 in 17 minutes for the game and warmed the bench for the balance after being minus 16 vs SAC.
Lack of Defense Has Little To Do With Poor Coaching
You can’t get blood out of a turnip.
You can’t get NBA defense from a team where four of the top rotation players are either Europeans or rookies.
There has never been and probably never will be a NBA team that has as many key European players as Toronto does and be able to play solid defense. I don’t care who coaches them.
it isn't the Euro in them, it is the crappy in them
Tony Parker
Manu Ginobili (not Euro, but South American)
Rasho Nesterovic
Tim Duncan (well, not Euro, but not American either)
not to mention that Scott Skiles has his Milwaukee team playing some great D, anchored by an Australian. Delfino playing some quality minutes, and Ilyasova playing some good man D.
Well said
This isn’t about nationality or origin – this is about sucking.
by Adam Francis on Mar 14, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Enlighten me
I guess I have to ask you readers about the issue of “poor defence”. Everytime the Raps have lost this year, pretty well everybody has been quick to point to “poor defence”
What I see on defence are Raptor players who sag off to help from the weak side and the opposing team either punches in and kicks out or they simply skip pass it from the strong side to the weak side for an open jumper. The Raptors will sag in away from shooters like Ray Allen (or the like) even when they are shooting the lights out.
Question: why?
Why will Wright, or Derozen or who ever leave a hot shooter to go help? Why does the help not come from a player guarding a poor scorer?
Triano
Some interesting stuff here.
First off, I don’t think Triano is the main problem here. I’ve said it a million times but at the NBA level, I just don’t think coaching makes or breaks teams on a nightly basis.
Look at the Celtics under Doc Rivers.
They sucked and everyone was calling for his head.
Then the team got KG, Allen etc, and the club took off. Suddenly Doc was being praised for his handling of all the egos and the whole umbatu thing.
Now his team is beat up again, and he’s being thrown under the bus for certain decisions by the local media.
Point here is – yes, Triano deserves some blame, but BC deserves more for thinking guys like Hedo were the solution.
My point exactly. Maybe Triano doesn’t yell enough at them but the history of coaches that coach that way is not exactly good from a longevity stand point as players tend to tune them out after awhile. The players need to give a rats **s about winning before a coach can do anything. Until then its all just butter.













