Tip-In: Toronto Raptors Post Game Report - "Friendly February"
Disappointment doesn't begin to describe the feeling. After Sunday's win against the Pacers where the Raptors allowed the Pacers to keep up with them the entire game, it was not surprising that the Raptors lost yesterday's game. However, the manner in which they did so, was pretty surprising.
I have seen this movie before, except it was way too soon for a repeat.
I was foolish to think that this Raptors team had put it all behind them.
Oh, how I was wrong.
I'll start off by saying that the Pacers did what they had to do, which is to score. Yes, your head coach was away and you were probably playing with lots of emotion. My condolences to the O'Brien family for their loss. And perhaps your lineup change really did make that big of a difference and ensured a Pacers win. Seven players in double figures sure is impressive along with shooting 52 percent from the field and hitting 94 percent of your free throws probably helped out your cause. Earl Watson, Brandon Rush, Roy Hibbert, Danny Granger, and Luther Head, I salute you.
I would give you more kudos but I need to spend more time ripping apart my home team since we have yet another back-to-back game.
So yes, here we go.
Chris Bosh, one would look at your stat line and give you a pass, but the defense that you played at times was down right atrocious. Not even making an effort to challenge shots at the beginning of the game, it dictated that the Pacers could do what they want in the lane. Your partner in the front court really wasn't much help either despite setting a new career high in scoring. But other than that, there was little to complain about.
Andrea Bargnani, you should have done better to push Roy Hibbert to the outside. You've pushed Shaq, Tim Duncan, Yao Ming, and even Dwight Howard. But yet, you didn't muster the strength until the fourth quarter. Oh, and four rebounds? Not even close to being acceptable.
Then of course, Jarrett Jack. You got angry at how out of sorts your team was and you tried to bring the Raptors back, but four points and six assists was not even close to being enough. Even worse, you let Earl Watson completely steam roll you. It just went to show that Jose Calderon was not the only person having issues with fast point guards. Your offense has been pretty good lately, but that just covered up your defensive issues.
Sonny Weems and Marco Belinelli, you both had a tough situation to come into. However, I have been greatly disappointed with you, Weems, since your temporary promotion to the starting lineup. Gone are the cuts to the basket and the aggressiveness that made fans fall in love with you. Marco, you gave us some good minutes and entertainment, but you have to play in more control. That's what's going to make you special.
And as for the bench, you did what you could offensively. But no one could stop the bleeding once in started. Even when Triano made wholesale changes, no one could stay in front of their man, and no one could cover the Pacers straight up. Where the Raptors required the bench to change the tempo of the game, they simply just presented more of the same.
Yesterday's game was exactly the same as those we saw in November. Back then, the excuse was that the team didn't have chemistry and couldn't figure out how to play together. Now, the excuse is going to be that the Raptors were full of injuries. The headlines and critics will say that we're going too far to criticize a team that has lost two starters.
Except none of those injuries are on their top defenders.
And for this Raptors team to stay in the playoff picture and maybe even catch the injury-riddled Boston Celtics, they will need to make sure this is the last game that they allow this to happen at.
Luckily, the Raptors play the Nets tonight.
The Raptors, however, really need to do only one thing to ensure victory at this point. In fact, it's this one point that caused the Raptors so much grief back in November and that's to play some sort of defense. It was a lesson that was learned since the middle of December and one that has been practiced successfully for about a month and a half. It's not rocket science and this team has proved it. By staying in front of their man and contesting 3-point shots when needed, the Raptors have built an impressive record.
The Raptors can discount the Indiana game as being just one that will become forgotten in the larger scheme of things, but in order to take advantage of "Friendly February" as Jarrett Jack calls it, the Raptors must take advantage of every sub .500 team while they can. They've let one slip through the cracks, but it has to stop here.
Otherwise the Raptors and their fans will use another f-word to describe February.
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I am not surprised by the loss as the Raptors have shown just recently that they have a hard time playing against teams like Indiana. Teams lose games sometimes against the weirdest opponents so I wouldn’t worry too much about the results. Yes it was a winnable game but nobody goes through the season undefeated. If they lose tonight however, I would be very concerned about their focus.
I think for most of us, it’s not the losses, but how they lost. Last night, was just a parade to the basket for Indiana.
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious
by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Feb 3, 2010 8:43 AM EST up reply actions
I’m suspicious that any time Bosh gets 15+ rebounds Bargnani will get 5 or less. There just aren’t that many boards to go around.
I've been looking at the sky
I didn't see
Were all nine of them his fault? 9 OR on 40 misses doesn’t actually strike me as a lot.
I've been looking at the sky
by Back In Black on Feb 3, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Going zone?
The Raps flashed a zone look for I think one possession in the third quarter — maybe 2. Rush and Price hit mid-range jumpers, and the Raps went back to man.
Would have liked to see them give it a bit more of a chance. It turned the tide in the Bucks game — maybe it could have helped slow the Pacers a bit.
Some kudos go to Indiana for playing a very strong offensive game. Good ball movement, accurate shooting, taking advantage of FTs, nice aggressiveness. Kind of looked like the Raps on one of their better nights.
Who's next
Lets just call it a mulligan and move on.
Honestly...calm down
Match-ups, match-ups, match-ups. Indiana matches up very well against the Raptors, so even with the talent disparity the games can go either way. It was like in previous years where, despite Charlotte’s record they would win games against a championship caliber Lakers team.
You can look at the schedule and pretty much figure out wins and losses going forward and it has nothing to do with record. The Raptors will hammer the Nets, can’t call Sacramento because i don’t have a feel for their team, and Philly might beat the Raptors, at the very least, barring injury, it should be close. Not records, otherwise all games could be called with 100% certainty, match ups.
I would even wager that as good as Chicago is playing right now, the Raps would beat them handily 9 times out of 10 because the match up is so much in their favour.
I don’t buy that. The Raptors were able to take these guys down on Sunday and were also able to mount pretty substantial leads earlier in the year. A lot of this has to come down to what the Raptors do and don’t do defensively and against the Pacers, there was a huge laundry list.
As a fan, I think we can accept this team losing because that’s going to happen over the course of the season. But allowing another team score 130 points should never be “acceptable”.
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious
by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Feb 3, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
The pattern between the two teams is that both go through stages of lighting the other up. The team won by 15 on Sunday but they were tied at 97 before that final run and Granger didn’t have much of a game. Allow another 10 minutes to the game and you likely have another tie or something close to it.
The point I was trying to make is that you can’t get too worked up over this loss in light of everything else that has happened because the match up dictated it should have been a close game anyway. Unfortunately, the usual suspects that provided the surge off the bench to counter the other team’s momentum (Belli & Weems) were starting. Antoine Wright knew going in he would be playing a bigger role and took some bad shots. Andrea’s injury more likely impacts his defense than it does his offense, so he performed poorly on that end. The injuries are piling up and likely dictated the differential more than anything because the substitution patterns and proper counters just weren’t available.
You can’t allow your pants to get messy when the loss was foreseeable. Losing by one or losing by 15 counts for the same thing in the big picture. If they lose tonight, it’s a different story, but yesterday should be taken more as the anomaly than the rule going forward.
by HQ Interloper on Feb 3, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
That’s fine too for you to take the approach that it was just one game. I accept that too. But it’s our job in a way, to point things out that are unacceptable. Whether that means pooping my pants over such a thing is another story, but the point is that this team gave up 130 points again and decided once again that scoring is simple enough to win games.
Doug Smith and others have talked about the offense stalling and such, but the Raptors scored 115 points. Countering the other team, coming out with the win was a team defensive effort and you can see from the box score breakdown that the Raptors just let Indiana have their way in every quarter.
My biggest problem is that these issues were forseeable and at the same time, they were also largely preventable. Washing it away because the Raptors have been playing fairly well against a variety of opponents lately is ok, but let’s also remember that this is an Indiana team that doesn’t score more than 100 points on average. And yet, they scored 130.
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious
by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Feb 3, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
You are forgetting that the last time we played them at home they stole the game from us. Teams have a tendency in the NBA to play better at home then they do on the road. That is why having a winning road record can be so indicative of how good a team really is. I would expect Indiana to play the Raptors tougher in their building so the loss isn’t that big of a deal in my mind. Yes the Raptors are better than Indiana but we already saw Indiana put the Raptors down in Canseco so it shouldn’t be too shocking. Remember, even the Lakers have been struggling against lesser teams on the road of late.
I agree getting blown out can be worrisome but every team gets blown out at least once in awhile. I think that tonights game will be of more interest as there is no reason that NJ should be even able to hang with Toronto in the ACC. If the Nets make a game of it because of the lack of defensive focus then I will agree that we have to start worrying.
Like I said last night, they could win these games despite the matchup if they learned to dictate the pace, i.e. resist the temptation to run with a fast team and slow it down on offense, be methodical, use the clock. That’s what really good teams do. If they learned to do that, they’d be a top 4 team in the East.
Begs the following questions
1. Is the talent “Top 4 in the East”?
2. Is the coaching “Top 4 in the East”?
3. If yes to 1 and no to 2, won’t the next couple of years be a waste of time anyway?
4. If no to 1 and yes to 2, where and how do we get this additional talent?
5. If yes to 1 and yes to 2, then next year should be special and we shouldn’t worry, right?
6 If no to 1 and no to 2, does it really matter making that much of a fuss over this team?
by HQ Interloper on Feb 3, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
good questions. I think the talent is almost there – DD has to develop and we need a better starting small forward. but we’re deep when healthy.
As for coaching, no, not top 4. But I think it’s possible for coach and players to develop together.
Having said that, and my thoery being that the team needs to develop mentally, there needs to be an injection of intelligence and grit somewhere. Maybe this comes from a savvy veteran signing. Preferably someone with a ring or two, who can play D some, but mostly who is a smart player. I’m recalling Bruce Bowen’s role in San Antonia a few years ago.
The Curse of Hibbert
In the first game of the home-and-home Hibbert was the only plus player for the Pacers. When he was on the floor their shooters got a lot of open looks and the Raptors tended not to drive to the basket. So what do the Pacers do in the rematch? Start Hibbert.. It seems like a pretty logical move and it seems to have worked(he was +13 for the game).
Now, is Hibbert the re-incarnation of Shaq? Certainly not, so what’s the Raptors’ excuse?
The key was freeing up Granger
Hibbert had a better game with 18pts, but the main thing was to free up Granger to play as a SF his reg position and he dominated 23pts and &7boards, when he was a non factor in TO, and Watson ran wild against Jack, with 11ast and 15pts.
4 teams
i think the raptors have trouble iwth 5 teams hawks,bucks,celtics,pacers these teams juts post match up problems for the raps
by raptors_run_the_show on Feb 3, 2010 5:16 PM EST reply actions

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