Tipping Point - Could DeRozan's Dunk Contest Performance Keep Bosh in TO?
Maybe DeMar DeRozan hasn't had the best rookie campaign statistically, but Franchise argues that his performance in the dunk contest(s) this weekend could be more important to the franchise than anything he does on the court this season...
Late last night, as I was channel surfing, I caught a piece the Score did recently on the Toronto Raptors, and in particular, a chat they had with coach Jay Triano. The interview was set up more as a montage of the Raps' season to date, with clips and pieces of their interview with Jay interwoven between various high (and low) lights of the season.
Most of the focus was on that early December game against the Washington Wizards, the one preceeded by a closed-door meeting that at this point, does indeed look like the "TSN Turning Point" of the season. However there was one other piece that really stood out to me, and that was when Triano got into why Bosh would want to stay in Toronto.
In the interview, Triano stated that the idea of playing with Andrea Bargnani, Jarrett Jack, DeMar DeRozan, Hedo Turkoglu and Jose Calderon, those five as a core, is hopefully enticement enough for him to stick around considering it's a very young and exciting group.
I'm not sure about young considering Hedo, but with the Raptors' recent play, it's hard to argue that there isn't a good deal of upside in that group plus Bosh.
However it was DeMar DeRozan's name that stood out to me the most.
From Triano's inclusion of DeRozan in the key six, it left little doubt in my mind that when Bryan Colangelo drafted the kid from Compton, he, and his braintrust, fully expected DeRozan to emerge as one of the top wings in this league at some point. DeRozan is a great kid who works very hard to improve, and with his highlight reel dunks, it's not hard to see the tremendous upside and possibilites for the Bosh and the Raptors down the road at guard.
Right now though, that's all they are, possibilities.
DeRozan has been solid on average as a starter, a big feat considering he's a rookie with very little collegiate experience, but statistically it's been shown over and over that at present, Toronto is a better team with someone like Marco Belinelli or Sonny Weems manning the 2 spot.
But as many of our readers have argued, that's not what this starting experiment is all about; this is about getting meaningful minutes for the rook and as a bonus right now, doing so on a winning club that's challenging for a top playoff spot.
Whether DeRozan should be starting or not is an argument for another day.
It's something Howland mentioned in his piece on DeMar and the dunk contest last Saturday that I want to expand on:
If DeRozan does win the contest it could really put the Raps back on the NBA map. With the team seemingly on the right track and creating some buzz around town, a win in the "big event" might finally cast this team back into the lime-light...Perhaps more importantly it also gives CB4 one less reason to leave. If the Raps can suddenly become a fixture for nationally televised games in the US then exposure is something Bosh doesn't need to worry about.
As Raptors' fans, we all know the impact Vince's performance in the Slam dunk contest had on both the Raptors and the city of Toronto. Not only did he put Toronto on the map officially, he also reinvigorated interest in the contest, which, prior to Carter, had recently showcased such terrible dunks as these:
Suddenly, with Vince and T-Mac both flying around on the highlight reels, Toronto didn't look like such a Siberia to play in and for the first time in franchise history, Raptors' management was able to retain and attract key free agents.
This brings us to Mr. Bosh.
Yesterday, when speaking to the media in Dallas pre-All-Star weekend, Bosh noted that he's not going to simply be content to play second-fiddle to another star next year, and that maybe Toronto is where he needs to be after all.
Encouraging words for Raptors' fans for sure, and more than anything, if you read the piece, I think the bottom line is that CB4 hasn't made up his mind concerning his fate with the Dinos and won't until this season is all over.
It's hard though not to think that a riveting performance by DeRozan this weekend wouldn't go a long ways in determining that fate.
We all remember the electricity that ran through Toronto after Vince's monumental performance (arguably the greatest slam dunk performance ever outside of the classic Jordan-Nique face-offs), now imagine that combined with a team that is already making waves thanks to their recent play! The impact of DeMar's showing could be even bigger than post Vince's win! Remember, Carter WAS the marquee player Toronto was trying to hold onto from then on. In this case, it's Bosh, and so a big night from DeRozan could be a major tipping point in terms of keeping CB4 around.
Already Toronto has done almost everything they can to put Bosh in a situation he wants to remain with.
The team is winning, he's the franchise figure, players like Bargnani are developping around him, management has shown a willingness to do whatever they can to get him help, and oh...right...they can pay him a lot more than any other club.
So wouldn't a big performance by DeMar just add another piece to the defense's case?
Perhaps the one thing, although Raptors' fans would never admit it, that Toronto doesn't have going for itself right now (outside of the lame tax and weather topics that are always brought up), is a "cool" image. The Heat, the Lakers, the Suns, the Mavs, the Magic...all of these clubs would rank highly I'm sure if you asked the casual NBA fan about teams they view as "must see." This is further supported by the fact that these clubs dominate TNT and ESPN's schedules each season.
But there was a time when Toronto started to make some head-way into this space as well, and it was thanks to Vince Carter. As much as Bosh is one of the top players in the league, he doesn't play the style of game that draws in the average sports' fan.
DeMar does.
There's no question in my mind that a big weekend from DD would go a long ways towards re-injecting some of that "cool" into the Raptors, and it's hard to discount that factor when it comes to this summer's impending negotiations.
Suddenly instead of "why would you want to stay in Toronto?" it could easily become "why would you want to leave Toronto?, you guys have DeRozan!" I don't want to go off on a tangent too much here, but the impact could be similar to what's happening in hip-hop right now thanks to the resurgence of Kardinal and the explosion of Drake; suddenly it's cool to namedrop TO.
And let's step beyond Bosh and the city for a second, what about DeRozan himself? Perhaps DD's performance gives him that extra boost of confidence that suddenly has the rook taking his game to the next level in the final third of the season, further propelling the Raptors up the Eastern Conference standings.
I'm getting ahead of myself I know but I think this is a topic that really has been under-discussed by the media; this All-Star game could very well be one fans look back on 10 years from now as a very pivotal moment in franchise history.
It was 10 years ago tomorrow essentially that Vince put Toronto and the Raptors on the NBA Map.
I'm hoping for a repeat perfomance starting tonight.
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I think you are getting a bit carried away here. While yes, Demar winning or at least putting on an unreal dunking performance will bring some short term exposure to Toronto, this kid is no Carter in terms of hops. I remember going to a pre-season game in Carter’s rookie season and he took the ball one on one against his defender, blew by him on the baseline and went vertical way over the basket delivering a jam to a thundrous ovation by the crowd. You could see right away we were dealing with someone unique who could bring fans out of their seats. DeMar does not have that physical ability in him, and this is taking nothing away from him, as Vince was unique in his athleticism. Can he develop that since he is truly in his sophomore year in College by age? Time will tell, but it would have already been apparent by now. The fact that we all seem to agree that Weems could put on as good or a better display kind of proves the point.
Also, Bosh is far more mature than his age, and what DeMar and the US media does while not inconsequential to him, I can’t see it as having a major effect. The only thing he cares about at this point of his career is that Toronto can compete for a championship and that TO is a desireable destination point for players. Yes, there is a correlation if DeMar wows everyone, but I don’t see this happeing. At the same time, I hope to be proved wrong. As long as we can lock up BC longterm in the off-season, MLSE commits to going over the luxury tax, and not by just a bit, in order to compete for a championship, I see Bosh re-upping with us.
by briangerstein.com on Feb 12, 2010 9:57 AM EST reply actions
Locking up BC is another blog topic for sure – the Raptors CAN’T mess around with that situation. And in no way am I comparing DeRozan the player to VC; I still have my doubts as to DeRozan’s ability to even be a good player in this league let alone a star. However I do think his performance on a big stage like this could be instrumental from a PR standpoint and I don’t think that can be discounted in terms of another chip in terms of keeping Bosh.
by Adam Francis on Feb 12, 2010 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
Couldn't agree more with Brian..
I have no doubts in my mind that winning this competition will give Toronto a bit more notoriety, but in no way do I think this will contribute to Chris Bosh’s free agency decision. If Chris Bosh made a checklist of reasons to stay, it’s not going to have “Demar DeRozan wins Slam Dunk content” on it, no matter how long that list goes.
What I can picture a Slam Dunk contest win gets is it makes Toronto (maybe even Canada) get a bit more excited about our only home team — but things like that aren’t sustainable.
And not to be a downer either, but DeMar DeRozan doesn’t have the beef to light it up. Fact is, I don’t think any of the competition has the creative prowess to. Shannon Brown has insane hops, but he’s exhibited no creativity. Gerald Wallace is a freak of nature athlete, but he’s not athletic in the sense of his agility (a trait important to have in a Slam Dunk competition) — he has power, but we’ve seen him in the competition before and know what to expect. DeMar can dunk, but he’s inferior to Gerald Green, Jason Richardson, and other past winners.
I hope Chris Bosh stays, but nothing out of this All-Star weekend will give any headway into convincing Chris Bosh to stay. We all know he loves this city, we all know he isn’t an attention whore. The most important thing is just for MLSE and Bryan Colangelo to give Toronto a breathing chance to be successful. There’s nothing else to it — but we all know that already.
Best wishes goes to DeMar. I dream of the day he shows signs of Vince’s athleticism, but guys like that are few and far between.
That video...
is AWESOME. The Darrell Armstrong lay-up is the GREATEST!
Dave "Howland" Randell
Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com
by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Feb 12, 2010 10:57 AM EST reply actions
RaptorsTV is running all the dunk contests now and they just showed that Armstrong layup. Total jokes… And it’s actually pretty shocking to see how bad some of the older dunks were — just lame in comparison to what guys like VC were able to do.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Feb 12, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
And Kenny Smith’s narration makes it even funnier…I crack up every time…
by Adam Francis on Feb 12, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Ugh!!!
Kenny Smith’s narration doesn’t make anything better (or funnier). I actually think having to listen to him over hype $#!T @$$ dunks has been the worst part of the last few All-Star Saturday nights.
That seems to be the pattern of the dunk contest. You get one year where someone comes up with something new and then followed by a few years of worse and worse dunking. Wash rinse repeat.
To me, having multiple chances at a dunk is terrible. I say it should be two attempts max. I think they’ve fixed that now but I could be wrong.
What’s terrible is the larger props. I mean, I LOVED Gerald Green blowing out the candle on the cupcake and then dunking it. That puts a smile on my face every time I see it. Simple and creative.
But Dwight Howard’s phone booth last year made me cringe. I felt it really crossed the line and took away from the dunks themselves. And to top it all off, he THREW THE BALL THROUGH THE HOOP and people are tyring to call that a great dunk. I just shake my head.
And like you said, the multiple chances are weak as well. I’m looking at you ‘Birdman’.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Feb 12, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know if it’s possible but I’d love to see someone double dunk. That is, they dunk it, catch the ball (perhaps while hanging on the rim) and then redunk it. I think that would be contest closer.
Multiple dunks
I think they should take one point off the maximum score for each attempt after the first(or maybe second to be generous). So, for example, if someone takes four tries to do their dunk then their maximum score is 8/10.
Birdman?!?
How about Rudy Fernandez last year? His “assisted” dunk was sick, when he finally pulled it off but it took him like thirteen tries. The props are just ridiculous. I’m hoping that we see a return to some old fashion dunking. Throw out the props.
America's plan 4 CB4
I’m not sure how much everyone follows NBA games on American media networks. But, I’m assuming that you like myself cannot avoid hearing less-informed reports of the Raptors. I am honestly getting tired of their lack of knowledge about the Raptors or Canada in particular. For instance, I sometimes check out the recap of Raptor games on NBA TV and 80% of their comments are about Bosh’s ultimate departure. The Raptors are one of the hottest teams going into the All-star break and they still don’t get any acknowledgement from any American media sources. Case in point, when was the last time you saw a Raptors game on NBA TV, Espn, or ABC? I realize that it is a ratings battle when it comes down to it; however, shouldn’t a fifth seed warrent national coverage? I mean look at Miami Heat or for that matter the New York Knicks getting more games than they deserve.
I have a theory that you may or may not agree with, here it goes: I have noticed that any time a team outside the US borders is successful, the US media becomes patriotic biguts. An example of this is the Blue Jays in their championship years (of which I have fond memories). They were blowing out the competition and taking the league by storm. Eventually, the US had to resort to making it into a US vs. Canada battle. The following seasons after the Blue Jays won, the Expos were going on a serious run of their own. It just so happens that a mysterious strike halts their playoff run. I’m not a fortune teller, but I have noticed that it is not in the best interest of Americans to see any sports teams other than US teams win.
This brings me back to the Raptors. I feel that the American media is just trying to poison the waters in Toronto. Mike Ganter of Sun Media was on point when he said that the US media are just sharing the same redundant story of Bosh leaving Toronto. I want to ask you all, if think that players that play for teams outside of the US become honorary citizens of the country? It sure looks that way in Toronto.
Case in point, when was the last time you saw a Raptors game on NBA TV, Espn, or ABC? I realize that it is a ratings battle when it comes down to it; however, shouldn’t a fifth seed warrent national coverage?
There’s a very good reason that the US networks don’t show the Raptors very often and it’s to do with economics. When they show two US teams against each other, you get fans from both cities tuning in. When the Raptors are playing, you only get the fans from one city tuning in because the Canadian ratings are irrelevant to them.
the New York Knicks getting more games than they deserve.
Proves my point. The Knicks get additional airtime because they draw bigger ratings.
Not to mention that the Raptors don’t even out-draw curling here in Canada apparently…
by Adam Francis on Feb 12, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, one could be cruel and point out that the Canadian ratings for the NBA are irrelevant to Canadian stations as well.
I sort of get the feeling that TSN never really wanted the Raptors but also didn’t want to get locked out just in case the team catches fire with the general Toronto sports fan (TSN really standing for Toronto Sports Network ;-)).
Sometimes I see those ratings and I just don’t buy it. Curling? Really? Is their sample size made up of people from Northern Ontario and parts of Saskatchewan? I’m sure if you looked at ratings focused on the GTA or major urban areas, the Raptor ratings would be a lot more favourable. And it’s probably more of the demographic advertisers would be going for anyway.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Feb 12, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
The following seasons after the Blue Jays won, the Expos were going on a serious run of their own. It just so happens that a mysterious strike halts their playoff run.
The strike was hardly mysterious. The contract between the owners and players had ended and both sides felt the need to dig in and not concede anything to the other. There was no conspiracy to rob the Expos of their last chance at a championship. The Expos were purely a victim of circumstance.
True
I hate the goddamn Americans, Bosh is leaving, He wants out of T.O. These guys are so full of shit. I can’t wait till he re-signs, aint nobody including Kobe,LeBron, U or me leaving 30 million on the table. Go Raps in the 2nd half. SHOOK UP THE WORLD.
I understand the mid season report was aired yestarday
does anybody have a link?
on the spot
way to put the kid on the spot Franchise….talk about pressure. I total understand your point…Its not that DD is a VC but winning the SlamDunk contest will definately open the eyes of a lot of US fans and Media alike. I mean even the Bulls and the Knicks gets more US TV time than the Raptors, actually every team does. So winning the contest locking down or moving up in the standings for the playoffs will definately open some eyes. The Raps are one of the most exciting teams to watch in the nba, the game against Philly was like a slam dunk contest, this team is fun and highlights go a long ways with the US media so DD taking the title or doing something special if he makes it to the contest will definatey help. But I doubt if that will be a major chip in Bosh’s decision to stay…But don’t worry Franchise Bosh is not going anywhere.
eric gordan
lol if u ask me eric gordan had a pretty lame performance last night he showed why he should not be in the contest
by raptors_run_the_show on Feb 13, 2010 9:35 AM EST reply actions

















