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Raptors' Rapid Recap - Toronto Raptors 111 - OK City Thunder 99


-Even without Kevin Durant this was probably a game most Raptors' fans had marked on their schedules as being a loss.  However as they've done in nearly every game this season, the Dinos fought tooth and nail and in the end, out-executed their Western Conference foe in a definitive 111 to 99 victory.

-Win of the year so far?  Possibly.  This one wasn't a one man show (although Bargs did post 26 and 12) but simply an all out team effort as nine Raptors played and eight of those nine had 6 or more points.  The Raptors gave the Thunder a taste of their own medicine nearly equalling the Thunder in fast-break points, beating them on the glass 42 to 34, and using athleticism and energy to eventually pound Westbrook and co. into submission.

-Westbrook did put up 20 points and 7 assists, but had a rather ho-hum game by his standards, being out-played by Jose Calderon overall.  Calderon had 15 assists, only one turnover, and did a masterful job running the show for TO. He also did a farily good job on D, something that looked to be a major issue considering his match-up with Westbrook.

-Kudos have to go to Jay Triano here too.  Triano did a masterful job moving players in and out depending on game situations, and in the end went small-ball with Calderon and Jerryd Bayless in the back-court when Scott Brooks' Thunder started to cut into Toronto' s lead with a smallish quintet of their own.

-The win itself was a biggie, but even bigger in terms of the big picture.  Toronto now sits in 8th place in the Eastern Conference unbelievably, just back of the New York Knicks, who they play twice in the next 3 games.  Add a match against Indiana in there and suddenly this team could already be talking playoffs in December...

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I like this team more than last years squad. They try harder and they are tougher and younger…all good signs.

Wow, truly a great effort tonight and it is getting hard not to like this bunch of Raptor players. Ed Davis looks like a real NBA player and Amir Johnson is stepping up in Reggie’s absence and providing some toughness. It would be nice to see him get more benefit of the doubt from refs on fouls but you gotta love his effort and his improved shooting from mid range and the line.

Barbosa played great and gives us a legitimate 6th man who can score like Crawford and Terry. All we need now is a star at the 2 or 3 spot (hopefully Demar or Sonny, maybe using the freed up money we have now to sign one) and for Davis to be a solid starter and we can start to be more than just an 8th seed in the east type team. And we would be extremely young.

Love Bayless, love his upside. Love the fact we have upside and we don’t have Hedo. Losing Bosh hurt, but the fact he played better at the beginning of his free agent year and then packed it in when his team (who paid him a lot of money per year) needed him most to make the playoffs was reason for concern and Davis could prove to be a solid replacement.

Last year we whined and got some tough calls and rolled over for teams too many times. This year we are willing to fight and play a more physical brand of basketball and though we may lose, you will remember playing Toronto because they played hard and they played physically. Even without a great draft pick next year, Toronto will be one of the teams to watch and the biggest reason why? THEY TRY HARD! YEAH!

by defensive rap on Dec 3, 2010 11:34 PM EST reply actions  

making a cold blooded analysis

maybe, maybe CB was more a problem than a solution? he had good to great stats but the fact is he was a liability on defense (masked by his rebounding numbers) and on offense, as the way to make him effective, was detriment to all his team mates production, to the point that his own was out weighted by lack of production by the others.

It can be argued this team is better than last years because defense is better, because we lost two liabilities on D (Hedo and Chris) because the point guard production is better, because, despite loosing the top rebounder, this team is way better at rebounding. Moreover a case can be made (although it is debatable to a point) that the focus on Bosh has been a detriment to Andrea’s development and that an equilibrium to a higher plateau, could have been reached by trading Bosh, before having to trade him away for peanuts. Maybe BC will be able to savage the situation using the TPE but, as it has been said in the past, his original sin may have been not to trade #4 before, when he had trade able value as he was not a player to build around. The rant has been always Bosh just did not have supporting cast, well now he has it and, while the jury is still out on this, it may be the (poor) supporting cast made him inflate his numbers more than keeping him down.

To the tankers and doom and gloomers, does it feel like any of the players

by renato on Dec 4, 2010 7:17 AM EST up reply actions  

The consistent display of high energy has been amazing this year. Could cb have somehow been part of the problem?
That doesn’t male sense because he worked so hard… But maybe he let guys relax too much?

One thing I don’t miss is all the laughing and joking on the bench during games… Didn’t realize until last night, but the whole team mood is more serious.

by axl t on Dec 4, 2010 9:32 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

its because this team

is pushing the ball. Bosh never ran the floor over the last couple years. NEVER. And alot of these guys are at their best when the team is doing that. (Sonny, Amir, Demar, even Jose)

I think its a big problem in Miami to. Say what you will about Lebron and Wade, but they are fantastic on the fast break… and they like to push the ball. Yet how often do you ever see Bosh on replays (or in games if you watch) even remotely involved on the fast break?

“Its nice to push the ball, just not all the time” – Chris Bosh

Regardless of what Bosh says about himself, hustle and effort are not a regular in his repertoire. Atleast not when the ball is not in his hands.

by Not so Friendly Stranger on Dec 4, 2010 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

hmm I may have to double check that quote...

it may have been “Its nice to run, just not all the time”, but either way, it goes to my point.

by Not so Friendly Stranger on Dec 4, 2010 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree with everything you said defensive rap.

I love this team. I just hope that they do not play so well that Colangelo decides to go all in this year.

The primary reasons for this team playing so well are heart, enthusiasm, chemistry and unselfishness. I think adding a proven player that is most likely not wanted by his current team could only mess things up.

by JumpShootersRUS on Dec 4, 2010 6:57 AM EST reply actions  

My god

did Bargs just string together 2 games working hard at both ends of the floor? Man what a difference to this team when he does that.

by Not so Friendly Stranger on Dec 4, 2010 8:49 AM EST reply actions  

haha 2 ?

For sure your joking cause when the raps had their 4 game winning streak bargs was the best player for them during that strecth. So he’s has more than 2 games.

by sherwin316 on Dec 4, 2010 8:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I don't think thats true

Bargs shot very well over that 4 game stretch… but his effort on the defensive end, and on the glass, was not there.

The last 2 games he did shoot well, and worked hard at the defensive end and on the glass.

If Bargs put in the same effort he did during the 4 game win streak over the last 2 games, I highly doubt the Raps win (well Washington may have just been a gimme)

by Not so Friendly Stranger on Dec 4, 2010 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I think I can pop my head up now...

I will let it out again that I predicted this team would win more games than we did last year. I was never a big fan of Bosh. I respected him,he seemed classy and came in and put up numbers for his entire Canuck career. He just didn’t help the team. I think the moment I gave up on Chris was after an old, out of shape Shaq called him the RuPaul of big men and there was no response, by Bosh or any of his team mates. Even when CB4 did put in effort, it seemed to be more about getting high fives than getting the rest of his team going. This site had a huge pro Bosh, anti Bargnani slant last year, but compare their stats and things look pretty even. Anyway, don’t want to rip on him too much, there is enough evidence out there and he has been having a tough enough season, sad to see and don’t want to kick a man too much when he is down.

I think Triano also deserves a lot of credit. Although rotations are what most fans will complain about, at least he and BC are singing off the same song sheet. That is part of the reason why he replaced Smitch, and JT certainly gives BC time to evaluate certain players. I’m not saying it is right or wrong, just that it does explain some of his personnel decisions. However, this team plays motivated and hungry, I credit that to Triano. This team is starting to click on D, I credit that to PJ Calisimo (who JT wanted to hire). This team is starting to actually out execute other good teams, that I have rarely seen from ANY Raptor team and I credit that to JT. No coach is perfect, but the Raps could be doing a lot worse than what they have in Triano.

There are a number of intriguing parts that could be traded to improve this team. Contributing vets like Kleiza, Evans and Barbosa could be moved for useful parts, just as Jack and Andersen were. Several contracts are appealing assets, hello Peja and TPE. We also have a lot of developing youth. Among Jerryd, Sonny, DeMar, Wright, Amir, Dorsey, Davis and Alibi, we may not have any all stars, but we have a base of youth that will hopefully give the identity to the type of player a Toronto Raptor is; athletic, plays both ends, attacks on Offence and able to turn D into fast beark points. Maybe one or two of these young parts will have to be offered up in part of a trade for higher tier player, but only if the incoming player still has those qualities and isn’t already over the hill.

We are in a pretty good position right now, even if BC does nothing, we have a lot of salary clearing, players developing, decent picks on the way. We can stand pat and develop from within (as most good teams do). If BC does do something, it will be to address a need, not to unload undesirable contracts (Hedo who?). One trade player I would like to see targeted is Iguadala. There was some talk between Sac and Phi based on Peja and Iggy. If those talks could be reignited in Toronto we might be able to throw in another asset or two without getting robbed, Iguadala fits the new Raptor mode pretty well. He is still young, defensive minded, a strong second option on O and addresses a need at the wing. But I’ll leave those decisions to the lego master.

I’ve been a little bitter at the HQ lately, too negative. In fairness, there has been a lot to be bitter about, last year’s team was soul destroying. But looking with fresh eyes shows a team that is well positioned going forward. You may not like a Bargnani type player at the 5, but when paired with Evans, Amir or Davis, things pretty much level out. Who cares if your PF is a defensive minded thug or the Centre. I think that Davis and Bargnani will compliment each other perfectly for a number of years and are the only two untouchables on the roster. Even the HQ has to be enjoying the turn around and I might stress again to use fresh eyes looking at the Raps. Bargs may not be peaked out, one dimensional player, but may actually continuing to develop into the team leader. Let go of the bitter, enjoy the ride, we are playing well and beating good teams, fresh eyes, ENJOY THE RIDE.

Walker McKenna

by Robert Archibald on Dec 4, 2010 9:06 AM EST reply actions  

I made the same rant in the summer. My point was it wasn’t an accurate representation of what this team was/is. A below average team, but not near the death pool the blogosphere was making it out to be… which is why I took out $1k for the over. Mind you I’m still only 1 or 2 injuries away from tossing those dollars away.

by Ustation on Dec 4, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Preaching to the choir

Seems all the cup half empty types don’t want to get into it the day after an OKC victory. Although I agree they are nowhere near the bottom of the league, I think the raps might even be better than below average-dare I say average to slightly above? Regardless, as with many fans, I don’t care as much about where they are today, as I do about the direction they are going. This team seems to be making itself an identity to grow into. Last year it was impossible to define what type of team we had, not so this year. This is a much more fun team to watch and should be the type of team that fans can get behind and watch grow. I much prefer this team play over the building around one player BS. But I am still waiting for usual rain clouds to show up, maybe I need Renato to get them riled up! Waiting for comment on the idea of acquiring Iggy too.

Walker McKenna

by Robert Archibald on Dec 4, 2010 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I love the chemistry that these players are showing. If they can keep developing this cohesion, two years down the road seems VERY bright!

by Assistant GM on Dec 4, 2010 3:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Random Notes:

Did you know, Raps lead the league in fast break points?

I thought the Raps were only supposed to win 12 games this year? 28 was the over under and I’m pretty sure most took the under. Woot… should I start spending my $1k?

Bargs may never live up to Brandon Roy, but I think of him much less the last week.

Harrison Barnes (NC)? We might still get him.. with the 9th pick! Boy has he struggled, and not impressive. He’s no where near at the McDonalds all american tourney that I saw. New flavour? Perry Jones (Baylor). Early in.. I’m a fan of Maalik Wayns (Vil).

by Ustation on Dec 4, 2010 9:18 AM EST reply actions  

wanted to ask you ustation

You seen Perry Jones play? I’ve been wanting to watch him but never get a chance what you think of his game. When I read his bio he’s like 6’11 wingplayer maybe like a poor mans durant what you think.

by sherwin316 on Dec 4, 2010 9:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

careful

of counting your chickens before they hatch.

I to thought this team would be better than others gave them credit for, but the season is far from being over.

by Not so Friendly Stranger on Dec 4, 2010 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree Not So Friendly, but I think everyone is more excited at the fact that we have a young team that plays hard and has some pretty decent chemistry to boot. There will be games though where they play hard, but lose to inferior teams. I just hope they keep competing!

by Assistant GM on Dec 4, 2010 3:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Great performance

I knew bargs would step up and boy has he stepped up this year . Bargs is probably the most talented offensive big man in the league hands down he deserves to make allstar

by raptors_run_the_show on Dec 4, 2010 9:42 AM EST reply actions  

If you consider assists

You’d have to put Pau ahead of him offensively at the centre spot. Maybe the third best offensively talented big man if you consider Dirk is a big

Happiness is that which gets lost in the details of its pursuit.

by HQ Interloper on Dec 4, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Some questions

1. Was it that Bargnani didn’t know how to rebound properly and not that he couldn’t rebound and, if so, does this mean he could still develop into a good/very good rebounder on a consistent basis?

2. Of the “vets” attractive to other teams – Barbosa/Evans/Calderon/Kleiza/Stoyajovich – which is the team most hesitant to give up and likely to keep. I say Barbosa because he simply has a special kind of game play that not only fits longterm, but there is no ready replacement on the roster who could step into his spot and deliver similar results. His age is not a detriment either being 28yo.

3. Has this become Triano’s team? I’m not familiar with how Triano played the game or what characteristics he utilized in emerging as one of the better players on the National team in his day, but could we be seeing the same approach in these Raptors (i.e. scrappy, never quit types) and (I can’t believe I’m saying this) will this team evolve to embody more of his characteristics and thus become a serious contender sooner than expected?

Happiness is that which gets lost in the details of its pursuit.

by HQ Interloper on Dec 4, 2010 12:01 PM EST reply actions  

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