Tip-In: Raptors Roll, Run Wizards out of Building in 127 - 108 Win
The Raps got some revenge last night at the ACC by crushing the Washington Wizards...
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We had the bulk of our intern submissions last this week, and here's our sixth and final entry, courtesy of Robby Frankel...
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There are good nights and there are bad nights for every team in the NBA. Tonight was a good night for the Raps.
The Raps stomped the Washington Wizards out of the ACC last night, putting up their highest point total of the season in an assertive 127-108 win. And amazingly, fortunately and surprisingly, most of the credit should go to Bargnani.
Bargs put up 18 points and 18 boards with 3 assists on 8-13 shooting. He pulled the Raps away in the second quarter when the game was still in reach. For a big man who is constantly criticized for not being able to rebound, putting up 8 boards and leading the team in the category (along with my main man Joey Dorsey) is a decent sign, and he'll need to continue this effort on the glass, especially with Reggie Evans out for a while. But it has become clear over the past few games; this is our number one guy.
Of course the other big story from last night was the debut of Ed. (Despite only having played one game in a Raptors uniform, he's already achieved one-name status). The kid looked nice, scoring 11 points and grabbing 6 boards in 24 minutes. Ed seemed comfortable in the offense, defensively adequate, and had good energy, and most importantly, good chemistry with the other young guns. DeRozan hit him for a sick, wicked and nasty behind-the-back pass for a speakin-bad-gramma slamma jamma in the second. It was nothing short of delightful.
DeMar himself had a good night with a team-high 20 points. But he was scoring when the score was already out of reach, as the Raptors won in dominant fashion.
The night was good, but things must be kept in perspective. We were playing the Wizards. This juggernaut of a franchise is one of two teams in the NBA yet to win a game on the road (along with the Clippers) and the Wiz have won 5 games total this season.
In other words, this 19-point win against Washington doesn't mean 1/32 as much (Ed's number) as the one-point win against Boston just over a week ago.
Washington, for whatever reason, just did not come to play. It must have been encouraging for Wiz fans to see their beloved first overall pick John Wall drop 19 and 8 after a three-game absence with a knee injury and manage nearly 32 minutes of gametime, but other than that, the team fell flatter than Gilbert Arenas gun jokes. And his 1-10 shooting.
Agent Zero (I love the newborn power of that nickname after the weapons charges) put up only 7 pts in nearly 30 minutes of action, Andray Blatche finished with 17 and Javale McGee put up a game-high 21 points.
Random observation of the night - Sonny Weems is playing good basketball. This guy is growing, playing like he wants to win, and looks like he's having fun playing for the dinosaurs. He put up 18 points and shot 7-12, and most importantly, he plays a fast-paced and exciting brand of ball that gets fans into the game. Don't act like you're not impressed.
The Raps are used to blowouts, just not being on this side of them. Andrea needs to be a dependable scorer for the team to have any chance to win, because his size/arsenal combination makes him the one Raptors player who is at many times unguardable, and with OKC coming in on friday, the big man will be our only hope to have any type of advantage on the Thunder. Call me a skeptic, but do you think the defensively- challenged Calderon is going to have any fun watching his next assignment, Russell Westbrook, in the film room these next couple days? In the words of Michelle Tanner, "No way, Jose."
It was only the Wizards. But before that it was the Celtics. And before that it was the Magic. Maybe the Raps are on the rise. Maybe the eighth seed in the East isn't a delusion. Maybe Ed Davis will be a star. They're all just maybes, but believing in the maybes is what being a fan is all about.
-Robby Frankel
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Robby
You’ve got balls for your opening comments regarding Bargs, and I respect you for that. There is a good chance you will be ridiculed for pimping Andrea. I thought your Michelle Tanner reference was funny if not a little ridiculous. I’m no english major, so I may be off base, but I found a few of the phrases a little awkward to read. Not the best write up so far, but a decent effort.
I actually thought
this write-up stood out over the rest. No disrespect to anyone else, but Robby, YOU JUST GET ME. Ok I’ll stop.
Too bad he won’t get the job for backing Bargnani…
good article but...
Bargs didn’t pull down 18 boards lol
by sherwin316 on Dec 2, 2010 11:27 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Nice write up… for a moment there I forgot I wasn’t reading Franchise’s always potent copy… tied with Sasha for No.1 in my books… take em both
Maybe he'll be a contender :)
Robby, love your enthusiasm. Reading this write-up does make me want to watch the next Raptors game. If this RHQ gig doesn’t work out, I think the MLSE promo department might be a good option for you ;)
The Ed Davis Bandwagon
I’ve been a fan of ED ever since his solid performance and down-to-earth quotes during summer league. After last night, I am very thankful to see that he can actually play some decent NBA ball, too(at least for one night). I am looking forward to riding the Ed Davis bandwagon through thick and thin. Good luck kid!
Davis hasn't met Mr. Bi-Polar ..... Yet
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Give it time though. As teams re-assess this new Prodigy of ours, Ed will have to adapt – and he may struggle to find his way out. At that point he’ll face the Wrath of Khan Raptor fans – tough crowd.
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Personally, I think the kid was a steal. He has good hops, and I think he’ll make a perfect complement to Bargnani. Sort of what we had hoped Amir would be, but in Johnson’s case, I feel he’s better suited as the 1st Big off the Bench. We do need a strong Bench.
What Ed Davis illustrates to every Raptor fan (in a round-about way), is that tanking and getting a top 5 pick may seem like a plan – it really means we sucked badly – it also means that late picks can offer nice surprises. When it comes to the Draft, there is no guarantee that the “Star” player you think you’ve picked, will be:
- a game breaker
- healthy
- mesh well
- stay in Toronto
As I debated with Tim W, I believe a successful year will have Raptors in the play-offs. A win tonight by Miami, and it means a play-off opportunity returns to Toronto. Then it’s completely up to the players to keep that opportunity alive.
Should the Raps struggle, and miss the play-offs, they’ll most likely snag a 10-12th pick. Make the play-offs & that pick is most likely 15th. And if that’s the case, the Raps can go safe with this pick (at 15th), and then go high-risk on the Miami pick – nothing to lose there. All in all, not a bad situation for Toronto. Definitely be a young team. And hopefully, a hungry team.
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by RapthoseLeafs on Dec 2, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Re: ... "nothing to lose there."
Nothing to lose except missing out on the next Blake Griffen, John Wall, Durant, Tyreke Evans, Derrick Rose, etc. etc. etc. I think some Toronto fans are just weary of using the Draft to rebuild because we have had such underwhelming experiences with getting the #1 pick ; )
I presume some would prefer to watch Bargnani as the “Franchise player”, putting up 19 and 4 from the Centre position for sub .500 teams for the next 5 years. Count me out…
However, imagine this team with a Derrick Rose like player at PG (hello Kyrie Irving!!). Now you’re talking, now you’ve got something to be hopeful about.
MAS... same question
So, given one Fantasy trade (in the sense that it works technically but probably wouldn’t be accepted), and that our current roster stays healthy (Reggie healthy as well) what lineup (limit it to a 10 man rotation) would you like to see starting next season? (therefore including a draft pick)…
yessir join the bandwagon with me & francise
We too would also love to get kyrie Irving..just imagine a point guard with his skills with the group we have now. The hell with barnes…KYRIE IRVING people join the bandwagon.
by sherwin316 on Dec 2, 2010 4:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And then how do we best fill in the blank?
Kyrie Irving / Jerryd Bayless
Demar Derozan / Leandro Barbosa
Sonny Weems / Linus Kleiza
Ed Davis / Amir Johnson
____________ / Andrea Bargnani
I like this direction, trade-able commodities include: Calderon, Wright, Dorsey, Evans…
How much faith do you have in Demar and Sonny really anchoring a permanent spot in a winning future? I have high hopes, I just have a nagging feeling that we’ll be let down…
i like that rotation
Maybe add alabi in the center spot to back up bargs if he can develope quick enough. A lot of experts say he was a steal where he was drafted so there should be high hopes for him. As for DD & weems? I think they can anchor the wing position going foward, their both still young, and both has had pretty good season so far (lil blimps here and there but that’s to be expected) if they can play like they did last night (granted against the wiz but still) the skys the limit. That’s why I don’t think we need Harrison barnes, Irving to me is just as explosive and is what this team needs more, a young exciting PG.
by sherwin316 on Dec 2, 2010 5:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think with the trade combination options using Calderon, Wright, Evans and Dorsey, and with the TPE and with the money from Peja’s expiring we should be able to land a star to play ahead of Bargs and have leftover decent talent for garbage minutes…
We have an awesome bench, it just currently extends right into our starting lineup…
And yea I hope Alabi becomes something valuable too…
LMAO!!
“We have an awesome bench, it just currently extends right into our starting lineup…”
That’s fantastic!!
The Raptors really need to use that in their marketing efforts.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Dec 2, 2010 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
In order for the Raptors to be anything but a mediocre team, they need high level talent a lot more than they need playoff experience, especially since that playoff experience will most likely result in an absolute thrashing. It’s A LOT harder to find high level talent at 15 than in the top 10. And without adding more high level talent, the Raptors will continue to be a mediocre team that continues to battle for a playoff spot year after year.
And I think your floor if the Raptors struggle is a little high. They’re 2 games out of the bottom 5 in the league. The ONLY reason they are so close to being in the 8th spot in the East is because there’s so little difference between 8-14 in the East. If Toronto had lost the game against Washington, they’d be tied with the Wizards, who after last night are 2nd last in the East.
Like it or not, the Raptors are a four game losing streak away from dropping down to the 13th or 14th spot in the East and in the bottom 5 in the league.
Tim W.
The Picket Fence
My ideal scenario for the Raptors this year would be a high pick without having to be one of the absolute worst teams. I don’t think there is much chance of the team making the playoffs, but I wouldn’t mind if they finished around 5-10th worst in the league and then lucked into a top 3 pick in the lottery. The other ideal scenario would be for the majority of teams to float towards .500 with exception of maybe one or two that are absolutely abysmal. Then the Raps might be able to win say low 30s in games, but still be maybe 4th worst in the league.
However, I do agree to a certain extent with RapthoseLeafs in that I want to see the youngsters on this team develop and become as good as they possibly can.
"the Raptors are a four game losing streak away from dropping down to the 13th or 14th spot in the East and in the bottom 5 in the league."
by Not so Friendly Stranger on Dec 2, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
I'll finish here
they are also a 4 game winning streak away from running away from the pack. I said this early in the offseason. The 8-15 spot in the east are up for grabs. Anyone of the ‘bad’ teams could make the playoffs.
this Raps team is easily not the worst team in the east, and that may be enough to make the playoffs (not saying they will). This is a season just to play out, see who starts to make progress and who doesn’t…. and hopefully to bring in a talented player around the trade deadline. If they make the playoffs great, something to watch and a little kick on Bosh ass I would think. If not, so be it… atleast they are playing hard.
While its not out of the realm of possiblity, don’t except this team to have a top 5 pick this year
by Not so Friendly Stranger on Dec 2, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
this time last year
the raps were 7-11 at this time last year with our so called franchise player in chris bosh! anyways, we missed playoffs by one game last year mostly because bosh was out…. if we continue to play well we should make it into the playoffs, which is what im hopin. I know some other fans out there wanna see a shitty team on the court just so we can have a good pick (roll eyes)
by untouchable_21 on Dec 2, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
Most of those other teams the Raptors are battling with at the moment have a fair bit of more talent than the Raptors. While I love seeing them play hard, I don’t think there are going to be very many 4 game winning streaks this season, and I’d bet at least a couple of 4 game losing streaks.
I expect Cleveland, Milwaukee and Charlotte to be better than the Toronto, and possibly New Jersey, as well.
As for a top 5 pick, it’s usually not the bottom 3 teams that get the top three picks, so as long as the Raptors finish in the bottom 10, they’ve got a good chance to move up.
Tim W.
The Picket Fence
is a hard statement
can you back it up with some evidence?
“Most of those other teams the Raptors are battling with at the moment have a fair bit of more talent than the Raptors. "
they used to say: you are what your record shows….
I can honestly say
I don’t think cleveland or charlotte have more talent that the raps… Milwakee won’t be the same team if Bogut isn’t the same player. NJ is still young with a lot of inconsistent players and an injury prone PG.
Doesn’t mean they won’t finish ahead of the Raps, but I think all these records are going to be so close that the team that either:
1) tries the hardest
2) gets the most breaks (or least bad breaks)
takes that last playoff spot.
The one potential advantage the Raps has, is if Bargs actually decides to play hard at the defensive end every night I’d give that spot to the Raps hands down… but I don’t see that happening
by Not so Friendly Stranger on Dec 3, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
2 Cents
Last night’s game was great for all the offense. Not a huge fan of the defense. As the game wore on, you could feel that Triano wasn’t liking the effort either as the Raptors got sloppy. Against the Wizards, this might be fine, but against the better teams, and when the team isn’t shooting as well? They’re going to need more.
Overall though, a great offensive display. Nice way to start your career, Ed!
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious
by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Dec 2, 2010 12:59 PM EST reply actions
Agreed
The defense hasn’t looked that good lately, even through the win streak, not as bad as last year, but outside of the Boston games, not like it needs to be.
101 points boston
When the raps beat boston, the celts had 101 points…. not even sure if they played good D that game…but their offence is clickin perfectly.
by untouchable_21 on Dec 2, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
Gotta say this - You got b@lls
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And to back that up:
The game began to unravel for the Wizards in the second period, when Bargnani and Barbosa combined to go on a 13-4 run.
This quote is courtesy of the Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/01/AR2010120107388.html
For me, when Bargs & Barbosa went all postal, that was the TSN turning point of the game. But for good measure, another quote:
In what was easily the worst performance of the season, the Washington Wizards were blown out in Toronto, losing to the Raptors 127-108. As usual, the score wasn’t as close as that, as the entire second half was essentially garbage time.
This one courtesy of http://dc.sbnation.com/washington-wizards/2010/12/1/1849510/wizards-vs-raptors-john-wall-injury-game-time-decision-preview-score
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Ed seemed comfortable in the offense, defensively adequate…
Defensively “adequate”? Maybe we watched different games, but Davis was a lot more than defensively adequate from what I saw. He showed he knows what to do and where to be on team defense and was an intimidating defensive presence whenever a Washington player came inside. When he and Amir teamed up, the Raptors had the best defensive frontcourt I’ve seen from them in a long, long time.
Tim W.
The Picket Fence
Agreed...
Davis / Bargnani and Dorsey / Johnson seem to be very effective pairings…
One is more offensively geared, one is more defensively geared…
I really think you need to play guys in lines like hockey…
Your backcourt rotations: Jose / Demar always together … Bayless / Barbosa always together
You then run the frontcourt in sets… Weems / Davis / Bargnani (Balanced while providing scoring) get more minutes “on the ice” and then Kleiza / Dorsey / Johnson as an enforcer line to put the other team back in line…
Too bad fouls make an impact on individuals within the line changes…




























