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Tip-In: Raptors Turn Over Win to Lakers, 108 to 103

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In a season like the one Raptors fans may be facing, you gotta take solace in the small victories.

While the Raptors dropped a 108 to 103 decision to the LA Lakers last night, those that stayed up late saw the team's most complete effort of the season to date, and against the best team in the league to boot.

Yes, a small victory.

In fact, this could easily have been a big victory had it not been for a few key issues last night, starting with the turnover situation.

On the night, the Dinos coughed it up an ungodly 21 times.

Half of these came in the first quarter too, which led to a huge LA advantage early on, and before Q2 was underway, it looked like this was going to be an easy Lakers win.

The toughest thing to swallow about the turnovers too was that Toronto crushed LA on the glass, 49 to 31, but that advantage was negated by the number of times the Raps gave the ball away.

As Dave Berri likes to point out in Wages of Wins, when you retain or create extra possessions, this leads to victories.

Toronto did one, but not the other, and that's one of the reasons this game pretty much came down to the wire.

How so?

How about Toronto's second unit.

This group put the Raps on their collective backs, and got the ship straightened, even managing to snatch the lead from the Lake Show as the game hit half.

Jose Calderon was the leader of this group and while his four TO's weren't his usual MO, it was a joy to see a 14 point, 8 assist and 2 rebound performance that harkened back to his days backing up TJ Ford.  Hopefully this wasn't simply a product of facing Derek Fisher and Steve Blake as opposed to Deron Williams or Beno Udrih, but if Toronto can get this type of performance going forward, I can't overstate what a difference it will make.  Jose traditionally has been one of the most efficient players on the team and for the club to be successful, they need him back at his 2008 level of play.

But this wasn't all about Jose.

Amir Johnson, as one of our readers put it last night in the chat, realized the season started, and turned in his best effort of the season by far.  He finished with 12 points and 15 rebounds in under 25 minutes and...only had two fouls. His effort and energy was the catalyst that kept both got TO back in the match, and kept things close through the second half.  Much like Jose, performances like this are essential if this team wants to start putting some W's up on the board.

Factor in some good minutes from Leandro Barbosa, who also turned in a team-high 17 points, Reggie Evans' usual dominant self (14 rebounds and 3 assists in 21 minutes), some great minutes from Julian Wright thanks to a Sonny Weems' tendinitis flare-up, and another aggressive performance by DeMar DeRozan, and there was a lot to like.

I even enjoyed Andrea Bargnani's game.

Without having to be the go-to scorer, he had only 14 on the night, I thought the offense flowed a lot more freely.  I'd actually prefer games where he put in 13 to 16 points with less shots, thus allowing guys like DeRozan and Barbosa to do their thing.

Now, his 5 of 13 numbers weren't exactly efficient, and 3 rebounds is back to the usual Bargnani trend on the glass, but I liked a lot of what I saw, even a forced shot that missed, but that he took right at Kobe as if trying to make a statement.

However Kobe is Kobe, and his squad is stocked with something Toronto desperately lacks; finishers, the second big issue which for me contributed to the Raptors' loss.

We saw this against Sacto when Tyreke Evans took the game over, and last night if it wasn't Kobe making a big play, it was Gasol or Fisher.  LA knows how to win, and have the players who can say "alright, we've toyed with the opposition for long enough, let's end this."

Gasol in particular killed Toronto all night finishing with 30 points on 12 of 22 shooting and the Dinos had no answer no matter who they threw at him.

You could see it coming as the game progressed but again, the superior talent simply won out.

However as noted, if you're a Raptors' fan or even Jay Triano, you can live with that if you see this type of all-over team effort for 48 minutes every night going forward.  That was one of Howland's "3 keys" today and you can see just how much more effective this club is when it gets that type of play.  (Granted, both Jarrett Jack and Linas Kleiza could easily be singled out last night for less than "complete" performances.)

As Jay Triano noted post-game though in his chat with the media, he shouldn't have to be happy about that type of effort, it should be there each and every night regardless of the opponent.

Words to take into tonight's match-up against another tough Western Conference foe, the Portland Trailblazers...

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Speaking of Kleiza

Jay needs to find a way to get this guy more involved. I think Kleiza is a very good player who seems to struggling to fit into the offense right now. They should study the tapes and figure it out cause this guy is not comfortable for some reason. It may be an adjustment thing for him because last year he was the go to guy in Europe.
Anyway, hope he breaks out soon

by raptball on Nov 6, 2010 8:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Kleiza reminds me a bit of Delfino. He’s talented and can do a lot of things, but is a bit too individualistic at times, and doesn’t take good care of the ball. Not sure how Jay can work him in seamlessly, but you’re right, it needs to be addressed.

by benjibopper on Nov 6, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

From what I saw last night -

Kleiza had plenty of opportunities and was integrated well in the offense, but he was just God awful. Not sure exactly why, maybe just didn’t have it last night. But on the same note, I think we to temper our overall expectations for Kleiza… I think benjibopper’s Delfino comparison is interesting…

by MAS11 on Nov 6, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Delfino is a good comparison. Kleiza is a player that’s good at a number of things, but great at none. On a better team, he’d be coming off the bench and would have an easier time getting his game off. Here, he’s arguably our 3rd best player on offense.

I expected him to play better last night because Artest wouldn’t kill him with quickness, but instead would bang with him; which is right up his alley. I was disappointed by his performance.

I said it in the chat last night, but I’ll say it here too. Kleiza, to me, is a prime candidate for a trade. I believe that Wright’s skillset is a much better fit with the first unit and you still have Weems coming off the bench. Kleiza would have value around the league and his contract isn’t prohibitive. He’d be a good fit for a contender looking to add depth coming off the bench. I could see getting a late first round pick for him.

by Mistafitz on Nov 6, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree with Mas11 – he had his chances last night but wow, he just sucked. I mean, two of his first quarter shots were complete airballs! I expect him to be better this evening.

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by Adam Francis on Nov 6, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d trade him for a first rounder in a heartbeat.

by RaptorsAddict on Nov 6, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better news from the game:

JC is getting his legs back
DD seems to be on his way to become a factor.

by renato on Nov 6, 2010 10:32 AM EDT reply actions  

gut feeling from watching the Raps

Are we doing better so far on the boards, compared to previou seasons?

by renato on Nov 6, 2010 10:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Absolutely if last night’s trending continues – Evans is a monster, Kleiza is better than Hedo, and while Andrea’s dropped off from last season, he should level off as the games go on.

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by Adam Francis on Nov 6, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

thing 1 and thing 2

2 other things I noticed: 1) DD’s defense is much improved – I was quite impressed with how he did against Kobe. 2) I like Barbosa, but he seems to be trying to do too much at times. Pass the ball, dude.

by benjibopper on Nov 6, 2010 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

I commented last night in the chat that Barbosa sure has a bit of Mike James in him so totally agree. He tries to do a bit too much and that’s fine if you’re Kobe but not so much if you’re Barbs.

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by Adam Francis on Nov 6, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another positive about increased aggression, reffing is way better – they only blow the whistles so often, so if you’re aggressive and have a reputation for being aggressive, you’re going to get away with more, examples: every top team.

It’s too bad kleiza isn’t putting it together a little better, some of the things he does are great… taking it down the middle from the 3 point line to the tin in traffic a couple times. He’s not exactly doing it with creativity, but we haven’t had a guy like that in toronto in a long time.

Derozan is also blowing my mind offensively, as Jack said last night, he’s a long way off but finishing some of those attempts in traffic is amazing to see.

Just the effort you want to see against the champs, and really do we want the W? Just hurts our draft position.

by axl t on Nov 6, 2010 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

We should aim to lose every game this season by 1 point.

by RaptorsAddict on Nov 6, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly what I was thinking

by axl t on Nov 6, 2010 7:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Finally something to be encouraged by as a Raptors fan.

After countless months of doom and gloom, last nights game – although a loss – provided a sliver of hope. This team played the kind of “leave evrything on the floor” basketball games last night that warmed my heart. It made me think back to one of Jai Triano’s quotes from preseason. He said something to the effect of (paraphrasing) “No one respects us, but we have to play oponents so tough, fight so hard that they will respect us by the end of the game”. If the young players on this team adopt this mentality, even if it doesn’t lead to wins this season, its so valuable. It’s hard to put a value on thins like the “Reggie Evans trickle down effect” but if his ruthlessness on the court is espoused by DD, Johnson etc. it will pay dividends in future seasons.

Demar DeRozan:
I"m now convinced we have something here… The evolution of his game from last year to now is extrememly encouraging. He’s still FAR away, but I am much more bullish on his chances of being special than I was at the end of last season. His game has improved in every discipline (rebounding, shooting, passing and especially aggressiveness). He already has a DEADLY spin move which is just fun to watch.

by MAS11 on Nov 6, 2010 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Absolutely agree

I thought there were signs last year. Sure he looked overwhelmed alot and couldn’t dribble or shoot, but he was aggressive, and I thought he did some things off the ball on offense that showed a high basketball IQ (cutting, etc.). He’s certainly shown that he’s willing to put the work in and the athleticism’s there, so I see no reason he cannot be an all-star in a couple of years. He’s a consistent jumper away from being a 20+ point per game scorer and his defense is already better by leaps and bounds. His knowledge of the other 2 guards in the league will grow with time, and should help in this regard.

He’s been the most encouraging part of the early season to me.

by Mistafitz on Nov 6, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Totally agree on DeMar – didn’t expect this kind of leap. I said this in the chat but to me he’s gone from about a 3 last season to a 6 this year – huge jump and while he’s got a long way to go, he definitely looks to be on the right path.

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by Adam Francis on Nov 6, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

View from the nosebleeds

I didn’t have my usual courtside seats (ha!), so y’all probably had a better view than I did. I can report that Demar looked very very impressive at both ends. He did about as good a job on Kobe as you can do, and I think this will give him a lot of confidence going forward. What we’re seeing from him is exactly what I predicted this year . . . for Sonny. It looks more and more like the two of them are redundant parts, and I hope Sonny can score enough on the second unit to get a nice payday next year—he seems to be a very nice and hardworking young man. But back to Demar, he took a few ill advised long 2s, but it really looked like he could get to the rim whenever he wanted.

Watched the game back on the Laker broadcast, and the announcers were very very complimentary about the Raptors’ dominance in the paint — and they were also killing the Lakers for their effort on the defensive end re keeping the Raptors out of the paint. They compared Reggie to Rodman a few times, though they laughed a few times at some of the shots he passed up (and some of the close ones he missed).

I felt that we got a few bad breaks and the Lakers got some generous calls. There was one first half “block” by Shannon Brown that was the biggest uncalled goaltend I’ve ever seen. The announcers were laughing about it, saying, “that’s why you can’t complain about the refs when a call goes against you” (because you get bad calls in your favor as well). The play where Amir got 3 or 4 offensive rebounds and still couldn’t put it home was frustrating — we missed a few chances like that that might have made the difference.

Like you all, very happy with the effort last night, and the talent disparity wasn’t as great as I thought (though at times we had no answer for Pau, and they were missing Bynum who killed us last year).

by Aaron Craig on Nov 6, 2010 12:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I too thought DeMar did a pretty solid job on Kobe defensively, especially not letting him get to a lot of his favourite spots.

Kobe is Kobe though, and man, he made a bunch of shots fading one way with a hand in his face. Nothing you can do about those.

Aaron – did it seem a bit to you though like the Lakers were just toying with the Raps, waiting to close it out at the end? That’s my one fear, whereas a team like Portland later tonight won’t try and kick it into high gear at the end, they’ll play that way all match.

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by Adam Francis on Nov 6, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

And he’s only 21 years old..think bout that for a second only 21..his attack at the rim is already improving once he gets that jump shot watch out.

by sherwin316 on Nov 6, 2010 12:50 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

If that jump shots starts falling it changes everything.

Last night when he was pressed closely by Kobe or Artest he had a tough time because he’s still not a great ball handler, so having that shot will really open things up for him.

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by Adam Francis on Nov 6, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey its that suns fan again, Im SO happy for amir

Give Jason MAX Richardson an extension, he deserves it.

by Bkj on Nov 6, 2010 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

But seriously, I'll be honest and say that I disliked the raptors because of bosh, and I never really liked bargs game, but now that bosh has left and andrea has been left

to operate the battlefield as cheif LT. I have a level of consumate respect for this raptors team; Good lucks guys

Give Jason MAX Richardson an extension, he deserves it.

by Bkj on Nov 6, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting sideline for the Portland game:

Bargnani Vs. Aldridge

Both picked in the same class and some pundits at the time (and some Raps fans as well) thought he should have been the #1 pick. Well he’s truly rounded into form and has looked great so far this season.

Like Bargs, he’s not a fantastic rebounder, but he gets “effort boards”, Andrea simply doesn’t.

by MAS11 on Nov 6, 2010 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

MLSE better hope they give the effort they gave last night. If they can do that 4 out of 5 nights, this team will be fun to watch. I could feel the game slipping away at the begginning of the fourth, and you knew LA would turn it up, but it was very entertaining.
Good effort.

by PNUTZ on Nov 6, 2010 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Kobe on the Raps

"They’re a very unorthodox team," Bryant said. "You’ve got rebounders coming in from all over the place. You’ve got the floor spread, and very athletic guys that are crashing and jumping, so it’s just their style of play."

by Scores on Nov 6, 2010 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

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