3 in the Key - Raptors' Game-Day Preview vs the Suns
It seemed like the day was never going to come but here it is, the Toronto Raptors play their first game of the new season tonight against the Phoenix Suns, and the HQ breaks it down...
On a scale of 1 to 10, how excited are you about the return of Raptors' basketball?
I'm at a 14, possibly 14.2.
Sure, it's only pre-season, but considering this team has a lot of questions in terms of rotations and line-ups for the coming season, pre-season in my opinion should be a little more interesting this year than in year's past.
And after sitting at Jack Astor's last night with one of my co-writers, Ray Bala, essentially entranced by the new-look Miami Heat, well, the fact that NBA basketball is back period is a breath of fresh air.
Tonight of course, the Dinos kick off their season in Vancouver, against home-town hero Steve Nash and his Phoenix Suns. The match features some interesting subplots considering it marks Hedo Turkoglu's first game against his former team (Leandro Barbosa's as well), the Suns first game without the services of Amar'e Stoudemire, and of course, Toronto's first game without Chris Bosh.
With that in mind, instead of our regular season "3 Keys," our pre-season previews will be more akin to "3 Things the HQ will be watching for tonight."
Let's kick it off with rotations...
1. Rotations: The pre-season is a chance for coaches to do a lot of things; evaluate player development, examine match-ups, start to establish team chemistry on the court, etc, etc. It's also a good chance to see just who works well with whom in terms of line-up combinations.
I'm expecting to see a starting five of Jack, DeRozan, Kleiza, Bargnani and Johnson tonight but beyond that, I'd say most everyone gets minutes. And I wouldn't be surprised to see guys like DeRozan and Kleiza play major minutes, even though it seems most have them penciled in for key roles with this team come regular season. These players just haven't played much together as of yet so unlike a team such as the Magic or Hawks who have had essentially the same core for the past few seasons, Toronto once again is starting fresh to a certain extent.
2. Offensive execution: Who's this Chris Bosh guy everyone's talking about? Oh, you mean the guy who had 20 points and 6 rebounds in just over 25 minutes of action for the Miami Heat last night?
Yep, that guy.
We've talked about the impact of his absence ad nauseam this summer but tonight we'll get a first taste of what it is to be Bosh-less.
On this note then, I'm extremely curious to see just who is featured in Triano's new-look O. The popular guess is the ball goes to Bargs first, but will Kleiza get more opportunities to score? How about DeRozan and Weems, just what roles will they play in terms of scoring the ball? Will we indeed see more emphasis on ball movement without Bosh holding things up in the post?
I expect of course this to be a bit of a work in progress, but tonight should be our first taste of what to expect offensively from the Dinos this year.
3. Defensive Improvement: I realize it's pre-season and the team is trying to incorporate a ton of new faces, but much like the offensive execution, tonight should give fans a first peek at what Triano and his new coaching staff is trying to do on D this year.
There's been lots of talk about defensive focus in the papers so far through training camp, but is there any different schemas that Toronto is looking to incorporate? Or is this simply a matter of accountability primarily. I argued this off-season that Toronto should look to the zone much more often on D and we'll see this pre-season if Triano has inclinations of doing such a thing too.
Most importantly for me though, is against a team like Phoenix that likes to get up and down the court, how will Toronto's transition D look. Will the Raps look to create their own offense off stops in transition, or will we see the same problems that manifested themselves defensively all last season.
My guess is there won't be much in terms of apparent change as of now, but I'll be looking for subtle hints that improvements are on the way.
As well, the argument has been that removing Bosh from this side of the equation won't hurt the team much and I'm curious to see how this plays out this season, starting with tonight's match.
The game is being shown on TSN at 10 PM EST and we'll be kicking off our live-blogging schedule for the year tonight at that time.
Drop by and chat Raps as the team puts an end to an arduous off-season and begins their 2010-11 schedule!
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Can't wait
I already had enough of doom and gloom based upon vaporware…
let’s have a tough discussion based upon something…. anything real.
Yup. Time to put up.
I’m going to give this team a lot of rope… I just hope I don’t get hung by it.
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Oct 6, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Pumped
Hoping to see this team fly up and down the court tonight against Phoenix.
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
I'll let you enjoy it
It is still FAR too early for me to warrant weaking up at 4am.
NEver the less… keep me posted :)
I’ll handle the Atlantic Division preview this evening… sitting 3rd row, centre court for the Celtics-76ers in Manchester, New Hampshire :)
Hopefully I can find a spot to watch the Raps as well. Phoenix might have the edge talent-wise with Nash, J Rich, etc. But I think the Raps should be favoured in a preseason tilt where the two squads are going to go deep into the benches.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Oct 6, 2010 10:49 AM EDT reply actions
I was about to faint!!!!
you being even slightly positive….. Tx for specifying they would be favourites JUST for the preseason (wink)
Not to be picky
But the Suns played last night without Amar’e, so this is essentially their second game without him.
Love it
I can always count on the readers to be on top of things when I’m not – sorry about that.
So yes, second game minus Amar’e…
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
by Adam Francis on Oct 6, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Hedo
Didn’t put a fourth “key” in but the other thing I’m looking forward to is a Vancouver crowd’s response to Hedo. It’s not Toronto, so will the Ottoman be met with boos or general indifference?
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
I’d boo him just for his pitiful performance the other night. That or laugh.
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious
by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Oct 6, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
off topic
Did u guys watch the heat-pistons game last night and that’s the reason why they may not win it this year..they looked great yes but wade already going down with a hamstring. Beat you the fans are holding their breathes hoping its nothing serious but with his injury history and bosh being injury prone himself I just don’t see the heat winning it.
by sherwin316 on Oct 6, 2010 11:33 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
If healthy
Heat will be a very, very, very tough team to beat.
Hear’s hoping all three go down and team tanks. We go their # 1 pick.
You can bank on Bosh missing his share, Wade as well
We get our own pick lol
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious
by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Oct 6, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Rap v. Suns
Should be interesting to watch
by Jeffrey Thompson on Oct 6, 2010 12:21 PM EDT reply actions
Hedos Stats from Last Night
Glad hes no longer with his – the guys a douche
STARTERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A OREB DREB REB AST STL BLK TO PF +/- PTS
Hedo Turkoglu, SF 16 0-5 0-2 2-2 0 1 1 3 0 1 3 1 -3 2
Stupid Apartment Building
The day is finally here, and my stupid apartment building schedules a power blackout from 9PM to 1AM tonight. No TV, no internet, can’t even stream the game…
Some good news re. Sportsnet One and Bell subscribers
Looks like an agreement has been reached with Bell. According to digitalhome, an agreement has been reached and service will begin in a few days. No word on any impact to pricing.
http://www.digitalhome.ca/2010/10/sportsnet-one-rumoured-to-be-coming-to-bell-tv/
Barbosa/Weems need to get some loving, too!!
A couple of prognosticators have Kleiza & DeRozan starting, but I can make a case for Weems starting ahead of DeRozan, and for Barbosa starting ahead of Weems. Just saying …
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I’d love to see a starting 5 of…
Jack, Weems, Wright, Kleiza and Johnson…
But that’s just me.
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
Weems & Barbosa
Is it just me? But I think those two on the wings might be super-deadly?
If they do work well together perhaps we can ditch this ‘Young Gunz’ thing for a ‘Pirate’ based theme….
aaarrghh me maties….. does Boshy want another cracker?…..
if you are looking NY Minnesota....
That is Pekovitch, the guy that Andrea ate alive during the summer….. (he had 34 points)
Also - interesting quote on Jose and Jack from Triano
This is from a piece in the National Post yesterday:
“Offensively, late in games, our production [with both Calderon and Jack playing] was extremely good because they can both shoot the ball and handle the ball,” Triano said. “But we couldn’t stop teams. One of them is playing out of position and guarding a guy he shouldn’t be.”
Interesting that Triano admitted to the defensive woes, but thought offensively it worked…hmmm…does this mean we’re going to see a SUPER triangle of death with Calderon, Jack and Barbosa this year ha ha?
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
Why does he think it worked? I think it was a decent offensive lineup. But one of the worst defensively. And one of our most-used:
Calderon-Jack-Turkoglu-Bargnani-Bosh – was third most in minutes played, with a decent offensive rating (115 – a little higher than the overall team rating – 111), and a brutal defensive rating (127 vs 113 overall).
Factor in a pace of 93 poss/48 minutes and that lineup costs you 11 points per full game played, or about 3 points every quarter.
But… you know what the freaky part is? Over the whole season, even with all the statistical evidence (possession wise) pointing to the lineup being a colossal failure, the lineup’s plus minus was…. +1. (?!)
Great analysis! As for an answer to your question… Your guess is as good as mine. The Triangle of death is a black stain on Triangelo’s record that just can’t be explained… You can’t put a terrible defensive line up on the court at the end of the game and expect to close it out.
But the scary part is that, in the long run, that lineup broke even. So it really wasn’t the travesty I thought, anyway.
Clearly that is a result of them playing more offensive possessions than defensive ones, but that I would attribute to good coaching (sub patterns) which is more of a good mark on Triano’s record.
He's freaking dense
Triano will kill any minute chance of sucess for this season.
Hypothetically ...
… we’ve squeeked into the playoffs this season … Whom do I start? My answer: Bargnani, Johnson, Kleiza, Barbosa & Calderon. Why? Efficiency & experience. Besides, I also want Alabi, Davis, DeRozan, Weems & Jack to play together as much as possible as soon as possible, as the 2nd unit in this case! Their day will come …
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u know what ustation
I’ve been thinking bout this for awhile now..I’ve been saying this team needs a young point guard to grow with this team..but everyone on here and other sites seen to love this Harrison kid..so imma make a prediction right now on what is gonna happen..it might be far-fetch but I would do this..we miss the playoffs, get a high pick..we draft barnes, than with the TPE we still have we buy a pick from another team (in the top 5) and we draft Kyle Irving our future PG. Maybe crazy but in a perfect world that is what is gonna happen and remember u heard it here first.
by sherwin316 on Oct 6, 2010 4:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would say I’d prefer a grow’d up PG. Aside from Rondo, name me a championship team that had a “growing” PG? Most of them are vet PGs who’ve bounced around at least from one team if not more.
good point
True…but look at rondo like u said, westbrook is becoming one of the elite pg’s in the league..deron Williams, Chris Paul (who some sites compare irvings gand too) theses guys are all young as well. Just a dream but getting Barnes and some how getting a young pg to grow with this team would be exciting to watch for years to come.
by sherwin316 on Oct 6, 2010 5:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Bottom Line
We have a $14.5 million TPE that we have to use by July-something of next summer. We also will have $16 million of cap space created when we let Reggie, Marcus, Julian, David & Joey go to free agency. Some of that will be used to sign Sonny, of course. Finally, we’ll be able to trade away Bargnani, Barbosa & Calderon (probably) to make room for Marc Gasol, Kyrie Irving & a SF/G TBD.
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You think BC is getting fired?
Because that’s the ONLY way Bargnani gets traded…
Actually, although their salaries add up to 15.7 million, the Raps are over the cap right now, so they will only open up about 12.4 million in cap space. Add in 3-5 million for Sonny for the first year and you are looking at 8-9 million in actual space. Oh, and since you mention the TPE, most (or all) of that space won’t exist if BC uses the TPE to absorb a contract.
Oopps ...
I forgot that we have 2 1st-round draft picks (1 hi, 1 lo).
Ustation, the peak of the current Raptor team is going to be in 3 or 4 seasons, when the ‘Young Guys’ (deliberately altered) are ’grow’d up’.
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