Tip-In: Raptors Crush Under-Manned Cavs 101 to 81
The Raptors evened their regular season record at 1 and 1 with a dominant victory last night over an under-manned Cavs squad...
After a few nights of NBA basketball watching one thing has become painfully obvious to me.
There are some really bad teams in the East.
Toronto and New York hardly looked like playoff clubs in their opening match, the Wizards looked like a D League club Thursday night in their match against Orlando on Thursday night, and the Cavs last night minus Mo Williams and Anderson Varejao looked like they'd have a tough time with some of the top NCAA clubs.
So is the way of the Eastern Conference.
For Raptors' fans though it means there are lots of opportunities to get wins if they play as a complete unit, and that's what occurred last night.
Point-wise, Andrea Bargnani and Linas Kleiza led the charge with 20 and 19 points respectively, but Toronto had five players in double figures and another monster night from Reggie Evans on the glass. Reggie grabbed 14 boards, 5 on the offensive glass, and again did a great job keeping the ball moving on O.
The Cavs?
Well minus two of their biggest guns they just couldn't get it going.
Cleveland shot 37% from the field, was destroyed on the glass by Toronto, and just didn't have the horses to compete in this one. The biggest indicator of this I thought was at the free-throw line, where the Cavs took only TEN shots all night!
The Raps grabbed this one from the very tip and never looked back.
And considering the upcoming road trip, and the slew of games after that, it's important that the Dinos did.
The Kings, the Jazz, the Lakers, the Blazers, and the Warriors await the Raptors, and then games against the Bobcats, Heat and Magic loom soon after.
If Toronto wants to ensure a solid start to the season, getting a confidence building win before these upcoming games was a must.
From a player perspective, this one was a confidence builder too.
Bargnani had a much more efficient game offensively last night, Kleiza was very aggressive demanding the ball in the post and the two did some nice work looking for each other and re-post situations.
Off the bench guys like Weems, Barbosa and Andersen put in solid minutes and Amir Johnson finally got involved, doing a bit of everything.
It's this total team effort that's going to be essential during the season and if Toronto can get a few W's using it early on, it certainly bodes well for the rest of the season.
Especially considering some of their "Leastern Conference" competition.
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Hard to say anything about the East with certainty
Boston, is a high turnover team that lets opponents back into games. They haven’t seemed as dominant. Orlando was pasted by Miami last night. Even on a back to back, a 26 point loss didn’t look good.
Even out West – what’s up with Utah after two games where they didn’t look like playoff locks. How will the Carmelo situation impact Denver’s consistency?
I think this is one of those seasons where people are actually going to have to watch a good stretch of games to figure out what’s what. People spouted words like “guarantee” for squads like Milwaukee and well…who knows for sure.
I just like the way people are saying the Raps are playing with respect to effort. I like that they seem resilient and that they are not giving up lopsided points in quarters. These aspects can turn into habits. If this is the new “Raptor way,” we might finally see an identity forming after so many years of listlessness. This bodes well for the future because it better informs their draft decisions – getting players that fit their approach to (eventual) winning as opposed to just drafting willy nilly.
The games are played for a reason and this is one of those seasons that will prove how meaningful that phrase is, league wide.
Happiness is that which gets lost in the details of its pursuit.
Totally agree. Still really early but you get the feeling at this point that anything can happen on any given night.
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
by Adam Francis on Oct 30, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
If I could only make a living predicting the months of October, I’d be a very rich man. I’m on a 7 year streak. The unfortunately part is I’m predicting a 5 win month for November. Here’s hoping we’re wrong.
I’ve got 6…but not far off. It’s going to be tough no doubt.
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
by Adam Francis on Oct 30, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
What I really wonder is, what would this team have been like if we had Kleiza coming off the bench last year?
Kleiza going into this year wasn't the same Kleiza going into last year
Think of Kleiza as someone who benefited in a way similar to how Anthony Parker benefited playing in Europe before making a return to the NBA. He basically found his game. If he had been signed last year the impact might not have been as great as it could be in the years going forward.
Happiness is that which gets lost in the details of its pursuit.
by HQ Interloper on Oct 30, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Ya couldn't help thinking this as well...
What if Hedo was never signed and Kleiza was signed in his place (Raptors did have an interest)and Reggie Evans was never injured… Things that make you go hmm….
Unfortunately I don’t think Triano would have used him enough or at the right times for him to be effective.
Remember how they actually ran post-ups for Evans last year???
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
by Adam Francis on Oct 30, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Another timeline
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Had things gone better last year, we might still have Bosh. And it would be more of the same, just less money to spend on others.
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To me, that’s a timeline best left for an episode of Sliders.
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by RapthoseLeafs on Oct 30, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Bargnani --> 1 rebound in 30 minutes! (same as Marcus Banks in 3 minutes)
I can’t see this team winning a whole lot of games when its leading scorer is a one-dimensional jumpshooter.
Didn’t it seem like he had a couple more though? I was surprised to see the stat because it seemed like he was boxing out and tipping it out…. maybe it was just my imagination.
re Andrea's 1 rebound
Looked like he was in position for some, but had to fight Reggie for them, so just left them for him, and tried to get in the way of the Cavs, and concentrate on offense where he was excellent with 7/13 and 5/5 FT’s and 2 ast’s.
Raps avg’d 45 rbs with Reggie vs only 40 last year, hope he can keep it up.
B.C. -- why so angry?
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We out-rebounded the Cavs by 13. Go ask Byron Scott what he thought about that number. Reggie got 14 rebounds against the Cavs. And in the previous game, Evans + Bargnani, accounted for 22 rebounds. Wtf more do you want. We lost that one by the way.
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If you really want Bosh back, and his 1 man does everything, but nothing type, go cheer for Miami. Now that I think of this, I’m getting a weird feeling that by season’s end, Andrea will have a better ppg average than Bosh. 3rd banana eh? Go figure.
ESPN will be scrambling to get interviews with CB …. “uh … Chris. How do you feel about your numbers tracking significantly lower. Won’t that hurt your YouTube ratings? Oh well, a championship care of Batman & Robin should ease the pain.”
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by RapthoseLeafs on Oct 30, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
And in the previous game, Evans + Bargnani, accounted for 22 rebounds
Love it — we’re now combining Evans and Bargnani’s rebounding numbers to cover up Bargs’ poor work on the glass. Jokes.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Oct 30, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not like basketball is a team game, or anything
I've been looking at the sky
by Back In Black on Oct 30, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bargs can get zero...
boards for all I care if he’s got a body on a man or two clearing the way for any Raptor to collect the rebound…
Jose could grab 15 boards for all I care as long as Bargs is pinning a man…
Yea
I really don’t think it’s easy to grab boards with a beast like Reggie on the court with you. He fights his own team for boards, for pete’s sake. Anyway, Bargnani does need to be more aggressive on the glass.
Reggie & Barney
He fights his own team for boards, for pete’s sake.
Which is okay. As Back in Black said most eloquently, it’s a team sport. Reggie can “steal” all the rebounds he wants. The result is more important than the means.
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by RapthoseLeafs on Oct 31, 2010 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions
agree
1 rebound isn’t good we can agree with that but its not like he wasn’t in there boxing out and battling. Its just Evans is a god damn monster under there..at this rate Evans will be the leading rebounder in the league for god sakes lol
by sherwin316 on Oct 30, 2010 12:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Finally had time to catch up with some things..
Just saw that Raptors Special about the training camp. I know it was a bit ago, but I got some nice warm and fuzzy feelings… Really feels like Triano has the right message when he came into camp and beyond. For the Raptors themselves, last night seemed to be a culmination of a few things including some of their preseason work against the Suns. It’s turning out to be really exciting with this kind of aggressive D this year.
I think these Raptors will definitely earn the respect of teams out there. I’d love it if we were known as the hardest working team in the league.
Oh, and while I don’t care about the Pizza ever, I love how Triano talked about it after the game. I love how he basically said it’s all even for previous years in Cleveland. I love how finally someone defended the fans no matter how obnoxious that Pizza Pizza promotion is. It’s about time someone stood up for the paying and supporting public.
Respect just grew by leaps and bounds.
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious
by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Oct 30, 2010 2:50 PM EDT reply actions
Totally agree – loving Jay’s fire so far. I watched that special, and besides the Colangelo PR-fest that made me want to jump through the TV and drop kick him, the rest was really good. Just great team chemistry which will be tested obviously in this first stretch of West games and through November.
Adam Francis - Publisher - RaptorsHQ.com
by Adam Francis on Oct 30, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Best line was how he doesn’t care if they all hate him as long as he’s uniting the team. Just great :)
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious
by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Oct 30, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Jay seems to have taken it too another level this year. He seems confident, determined and undistracted. He really has taken the leadership role for this team. Very impressive.
I was also impressed by his game plan yesterday. No Mo so pressure the lead guard full court. Raptors defensive pressure never let Cavs establish themselves offensively. Nice.
by raptor rabid on Oct 30, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
What kind of drop kick
Ricky the Dragon Steamboat or Jimmy Superfly Snuka Style?
Colangelo simply aims to convey optimism about the team, so he embellishes at times. Stop taking it as “whole truth and nothing but the truth” and you’ll be fine.
Happiness is that which gets lost in the details of its pursuit.
by HQ Interloper on Oct 30, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Or maybe...
Shawn Michaels had a pretty mean drop kick as well, and Randy Orton is keeping it alive today in that train wreck currently known as the WWE.
Viscious thinking
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Are you into the special Kool-Aid again? :-0
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by RapthoseLeafs on Oct 30, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah. Just Triano’s. And these guys, for all their weaknesses, do play hard. I can at least watch this team.
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious
by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Oct 31, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
No way!!!
All of you, get off!!! There is no room on the Triano band wagon. It’s mine and mine alone!!! ; )
Ok, that was kinda creepy
/*steps away from the wagon, slowly
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious
by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Nov 1, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
The Cleveland Game
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Have to say I’m also impressed by how Jay handled the pizza thing. Hopefully when Miami shows up, Jay can sneak a little sauce into LJ’s chalk dust.
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A few things the Raps need to work on
- Andrea has to work harder on his rebounding (for the tougher teams) – that way B.C. doesn’t burst any blood vessels.
- Jose needs to work on his shot. We know he can be dynamite, so whatever is ailing him, that needs to be fixed.
- Jack has to work on his “Court vision”. About 2 minutes into the game, he dribbled around the FT line for several seconds, tried to draw a foul, and lost the ball to Hollins, while Bargs sat at the perimeter with nobody on him. Perfect 3 point attempt just waiting.
- Amir has to regain his focus (better this game), so that he can be a presence off the Bench.
- Reggie …. Don`t change. Keep doing the same. And don`t shoot – unless the runway is cleared for you.
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How about that
Just turned 25 and this Bargnani kid is really coming on strong. Averaged 21 in the first two games. Also blockin shots and taking charges. I do agree, he needs to take some of those rebounds away from Reggie but hey what next , drivin the bus?
The thing with Bargs is that he always takes one or two steps forward quickly followed by one or two steps back. He always has a stretch where I go wow and then he disappears or reverts back to an over-hyped slacker.
e.g. Yesterday he did a great block from behind, drove the ball up-court and then gets called for a walk. So frustrating!!!
by raptor rabid on Oct 30, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Your right there
The bugger isn’t perfect , frustrating
Andrea doesnt need to rebound
Let Evans do it and let A.B. do what he does best.. shoot it.
Sarcastic but Never Rude. Rude but Never Drunk.
Does anyone think about what happens when Reggie’s contract is up?
Remember, Bosh was Andrea’s rebound crutch last year.
No matter how many points he scores I will always think that a centre who can’t rebound is useless (I guess it’s just the semi knowledgeable basketball fan in me)
Can anyone name any good or great centre’s in the history of the game that had Bargs like rebounding numbers? (I’m not trying to be condescending, I am really curious if there are)
Championship Teams
You are right, championship teams traditionally have a defensive rebounding center.
Bargnani is not that. He is a hybrid 3-4 who is being played out of his element. He also is not a franchise player but many of you seem to be stuck on this idea that he should be because he was drafted 1.
I am a Bargnani supporter because he is young, playing out of his natural position and being pissed on daily by those who are supposed to be Raptor fans. Despite this uncomfortable position he is in, he does very well.




























