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3 in the Key - Game-Day Preview vs The Knicks


The Toronto Raptors look to even their pre-season record tonight with a game against the Knicks in good ol' Montreal.  The HQ breaks it down...

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Reggie!

Reggie!

Reggie!

Remember that chant from last year's Evans return?

Well we may be hearing fans making that same call as the season progresses if Mr. Evans continues to put in performances like he did in Toronto's last two pre-season games.

Earlier in the week I compared Evans to Dennis Rodman, and while I noted the differences between the two players, if Evans continues to rebound at his current rate (about 12 boards a game over his last three matches), he won't be too far off in many ways.

But it's not just his rebounding that's impressed me.

Over that three game span he's also averaged about two assists and only taken about 3 shots a night.

Even in the loss to the Bulls, there he was again, hauling in boards and looking to kick the ball back out or reset the offence.  It's a huge difference maker as extra possessions equals extra scoring opportunities for the Raptors, something I think this somewhat streaky offence will need this season, as well as fewer scoring opportunities for opponents.

All of that means a better chance for Toronto to win each and every game.

Against the Knicks in their final game of the pre-season, I'll be first and foremost looking at Reggie as my first key.

1)  Reggie Rodman:  The Knicks of course acquired Amar'e Stoudemire in the off-season but beyond him, there's not a lot of size with this group.  (And no, Eddy Curry on the bench doesn't count.)

In fact aside from Ronny Turiaf, the team will need to depend on newcomer Timofey Mozgov and more finesse bigs like Danilo Gallinari and Anthony Randolph.  This bodes well for the Raptors this evening who crushed a similarly undersized Suns front-court recently, and leading this charge tonight I'm hoping is Reggie Evans.  He may not end up defending Stoudemire, that could be Andrea's task, but regardless, he needs to set the tone early for his club and help the team maximize offensive possessions against a very high-powered Knicks group of scorers.

2)  Jose Calderon:  Is Jose done?  That's what a number of folks have been wondering both in our online chats and in the comments sections of late.  It may sound a bit harsh, but if you had to point out the most disappointing player for Toronto this pre-season, I'd bet most would point to Mr. Calderon, especially of late since Bargs found his shooting touch.

So what gives?

Lingering injuries?

Lack of confidence?

Or is it simply that as a 29 year old point guard, he's hit that phase of his career where he simply can't do the things he once did.

The problem of course with this is that defensively he's never been a lock-down player, but his offensive game was so efficient, that he was a huge boost on the court.

Now?

Well let's just say it's gotten to the point that I'd rather see Jarrett Jack start and Marcus Banks back him up.

Calderon is shooting a measly 28% from the field and...gulp...9% from three-point range!

NINE?

He got torched by Derrick Rose over and over Wednesday night and at some point if this continues, especially if the current starting group keeps getting in major first-quarter deficit situations, Triano is going to have to make some changes.

The problem is, many folks (and I wonder if this doesn't apply to Colangelo too) see Calderon still as the player he was in 2007-08.  Why else would Marvel roll something like this out?

But Jose's gone from producing about 16 wins in 2007-08, to 12 the following year, to only half that last season.

Not good.

For the Raptors team to exceed expectations, Calderon has to step it up, at least in terms of controlling the offence and making shots.  His assist to turnover ratio in pre-season is solid as usual, but he simply needs to do more if he's going to hold down that starting spot.  He faces tough challenges in Raymond Felton and the bulldog-ish Toney Douglas tonight, but really, in the grand scheme of things this is an off-night compared to most point guard match-ups he'll face in the East.  I'm hoping to see Jose make a stand therefore, his last chance in pre-season play.

3)  Litmus Test:  No, the litmus test isn't the third key per se, but this game probably represents the best chance for fans to get an idea of how this Raptors' team will perform come regular season.

Of course, it's the last game of pre-season so yes, of course it should be closer to the real thing.

But as well, the Knicks are one of those clubs that Toronto is going to be fighting tooth and nail with for positioning in the Eastern Conference standings.  New York has the same pre-season record as Toronto, and while they definitely look like the more talented club on paper, I'm not sure they've done enough to improve certain intangibles defensively etc.

They'll likely roll out a starting unit of Felton, Chandler, Gallinari, and Stoudemire but whether Mozgov plays the C, or Mike D'Antoni plays Amar'e there and puts a Bill Walker or Douglas at the 2 next to Felton is anyone's guess.  Point being, there's some talent there in that starting group that should give Toronto problems, but the bench after that is pretty dismal.

Tonight I think we'll continue to see a deficit from Toronto's starting group, one that the bench mob will cut into, but really it's the overall cohesion I'll be looking at.  If the Dinos are going to stick it to their critics this season, it's games like this that they'll have to win, so tonight's match-up should be a nice view of things to come...especially since these teams turn around and play each other in their first regular season match next Wednesday.

As well, the Raps seemed to run out of gas against the Bulls Wednesday night late in the game, and against a similar up-and-down Knicks club, that can't happen tonight.

I'll be looking for a strong statement game by Toronto to even their pre-season record at 4-4, and yes, a W.

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Watched Miami Atlanta game last night James was James Bosh looked very unhappy
Many trips down the floor without a touch. Just an observation but being 3rd scoring option might not sit too well with Him. At one point after a time out James must of been told to get Bosh involved about 3-4 feeds to Bosh then James hogging the ball again. Should be interesting to watch.

by Davl on Oct 22, 2010 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

hmm… boxscore says Bosh was 5-16, only 6 trips to FT, and 6 turnovers. James was shooting 50% last night. Looks like James had to do it himself – pass to Bosh was either an airball or a turnover, no?

by Gerry71 on Oct 22, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yikes…it’s going to be very interesting to see how that all plays out because James and Wade both dominate the ball.

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by Adam Francis on Oct 22, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

A classic case of...

…..too many Chiefs, not enough Indians.

by RaptorsAddict on Oct 22, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

he looked like an old man running the floor. It was very strange.

by the stylin' assassin on Oct 22, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

he looked like an old man running the floor. It was very strange

strange? He looked like that here. In fact when was the last time you remember seeing Bosh being the first big up or down the floor?

Nothing strange about it…

by Not so Friendly Stranger on Oct 23, 2010 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

A few points

Since there seems to be a general need to rip somebody on the team and it appears that it is Jose’s turn, I think two things : Jose certainly is capable of playing to his past best level and will but he should loose minutes to Banks until he does.
Derozan is looking better each time out. I think he is capable of very good numbers but can he do it without an offense that is focused on developing him to be their “go to guy”?
There needs to some way of spreading the defence once in a while so that Derozen or Weems have more room to drive to the hoop in the set offense. It seems sometimes their own players are in their way

by raptball on Oct 22, 2010 9:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Look at the picture...

I love the picture accompanying this article. It’s a nice snap shot showing the reason why Bargs never gets an offensive rebound!

"Hey Jose…HEY…I’M WIDE OPEN…!!!"

by Ikelore on Oct 22, 2010 10:03 AM EDT reply actions  

LOL

The best is, I chose that picture, then tried to find a better one, but had the same thought about Bargs thinking it was so funny, so went back to it!

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by Adam Francis on Oct 22, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Really, 3 Knicks on Jose and Bargs just taking in the scenery in no man’s land.

by PNUTZ on Oct 22, 2010 10:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Did anyone read Smith's Blog today?

What a ass clown, people have been telling him that Jose needs to come off the bench for a long time now. He just kept saying, no Jose is the best option to start.
Now when he hears from people within the organization that Jose isn’t starting anymore, all of a sudden it makes sense and he agrees with it.
Does he ever have a original thought that doesn’t completely agree with what management is shoving down our throats.
Good to see Jay finally wake up though.

by PNUTZ on Oct 22, 2010 10:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Totally… He basically regurgitates what management says and packages it as his “opinion”. I think you are correct and “ass clown” is the correct term for an individual that exhibit’s this type of behaviour… Instead of a blog he should just link his audio files of his interviews as he adds nothing in terms of insight, analysis or opinion.

by MAS11 on Oct 22, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Name calling isn't necessary.

People do things their own way. Slagging Smith isn’t proper. With the blogosphere as it is everyone’s opinion contributes to the overall experience, especially when those opinions differ.

I would actually love it if the Star ran a point counterpoint type weekly Raptors Blog discussion between Feschuk and Smith, but I appreciate some of what Smith brings to the table. In fact, I think of him as the guy that sets the table for the day’s discussion, with the apps served by Raptors Republic, the main meal offered by Raptors Hq, and dessert provided by Chisholm (and if its Jello) Raptorblog. Anyway, back to what I was trying to say.

Franchise has actually compared Reggie Evans to Dennis Rodman twice based solely on good rebounding numbers over a couple of pre-season games. I watched enough of Rodman to appreciate how nuanced his game was and how much of a positive contributor he was to many of situations he found himself in as a basketball player.

I disagree with the elevation of Evans to Rodman like status, but I am not going to resort to calling names. The motto I would apply here is that it’s okay to disagree but one should not disrespect.

Happiness is that which gets lost in the details of its pursuit.

by HQ Interloper on Oct 22, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's fine but

have you ever left a comment on his blog that disagreed with his opinion?
He has no problem being a dick with his responses, so in this instance I have no issue with name calling.
He is an ass clown.
Did Franchise respond to your quarrel with the Evans/Rodman comparision (in which case I agree with you) by making snarky condescending reamarks? Smith does that all the time. What’s even worse is all he does is relay what management and coaches say to him, which makes it difficult to respect his journalism.

by PNUTZ on Oct 22, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I might add

by being in the blogosphere you are inviting all criticisms.
There is no filter. If people are expected to be able to publish what they want and leave a little section at the bottom for comments, then they have to expect that some peolple will disagree. Escpecially when you have been preaching something for over a year and belittling people who disagreed, only to change your mind when you are proven wrong. Grow some balls Smith!

by PNUTZ on Oct 22, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interloper – love the food analogy ha ha – and it’s great because it means that Raptors’ fans get a full meal of Dino-info!

And yes, you’re bang on about Rodman. Really the compare is rebounding-wise with a HOPE that he can provide some of the other intangibles that Rodman did, intangibles that I truly think would really help this Toronto team.

But make no mistake, there is and probably ever will be only one Dennis Rodman.

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by Adam Francis on Oct 22, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it was obvious last season and even more obvious this preseason that Jarrett Jack deserves to start over Jose Calderon.

The highlight of Smith’s blog is when he complains that Jack is too “me first” in the offence to be a perfect fit with Bargnani, Kleiza and… wait for it…. Reggie Evans. Heaven forbid you look for your offence at the expense of Evans in the post!

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Oct 22, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Check out Chisholms Jose artice...

Exactly what most people have been feeling…That guy is by far the best Raps writer, with the exception of this site’s stable of exceptional scribes of course!!

http://www.tsn.ca/nba/story/?id=338182

by Ikelore on Oct 22, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

D Stance gave me the heads up on this classic Doug Smith moment this morning – haven’t had a chance to read it but not surprising at all.

In some ways I respect the Sun Timmy’s more…

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by Adam Francis on Oct 22, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great set up Franchise. regarding reggie, the last couple of games have sweetened me to the idea of starting him. Andrea is sucha a terrible rebounder, it actually forces the hand of Triano a bit… However, you’r absolutely right, Triano has done a good job of focussing Reggie on kicking the ball out and not looking to be an offensive presence.

Speaking of Triano – this interview grew my respect for him about 100%. This is the second time he’s called out Bargnani this season. In this instance, he is asked if Bargnani had improved his help defence at all over the offseason as that was one of his designate areas to really work on in the summer. Trian thinks long and hard, looks back at the reporter that asked the questoins and says “NO”. LOL gotta see it for yourselves. It’s at the 3:30 mark of this link:http://www.nba.com/raptors/video/2010/10/21/RWEB101021TRIANOflv-1444823.flv

And, it’s not just what he says, but how he said it… He looks kinda pissed. Let’s hope for the sake of all things holy, the franchise stops protecting this guy and hold him accountable this year. It’s what’s best fot the franchise and probably what’s best for Bargnani himself…

by MAS11 on Oct 22, 2010 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

notice too, who is parked out at the 3-point line behind Triano on this video, at the time of this comment? Bargs, practicing his shot. Yup, that’s about it Bargs; forget about work on post moves, forget about practicing D on your teammate. Let’s practice more 3-pointers. Honestly, watching the players in the background, there just does not seem to be a lot of intensity in this practice at this point.

by Gerry71 on Oct 22, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Umm… practice is over. That’s just players getting up EXTRA shots, voluntarily.

by dhackett1565 on Oct 22, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

ill be at the game

Ill at the game tonight, I’m happy basketball is coming to my town…pre-season I know but still pretty pumped, better be a good game.

by sherwin316 on Oct 22, 2010 10:55 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Me too! Got online as soon as I could to get tickets, and have been basically pumped for a month waiting for today!

by dhackett1565 on Oct 22, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

And from what the raptor announcers were saying the game is sold out…that’s a great look for Montreal hopefully they’ll be more NBA games to come in this god damn hockey craze town!!!

by sherwin316 on Oct 22, 2010 11:29 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Some courtside seats left. Plus a few single seats in one section in the lower bowl – but other than that, sold out.

Would love it if the Raps came back again next year!

by dhackett1565 on Oct 22, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

One thing I don't understand is why there's a fuss over Calderon coming off the bench

Some like to say things like “he’s making too much to come off the bench” I mean, the team is paying between 16 to 18 mill for point guard contracts regardless, so if getting the most out the team means parking 8 M of that on the bench until he recovers from whatever ails him then so be it.

Fans really have to stop worrying about a player’s salary as if it’s some key metric to success. It’s like complaining that you won’t buy a Coke because they spend so much on their delivery trucks, whereas Pepsi only spends half.

Crazy.

The one thing that worries me is Triano’s penchant for stubbornness. He gets it in his mind that things should work a certain way and sticks with it way too long. So, even if Calderon is proving ineffective to the point where trying Banks might be a good idea, it will take a while for that change to come.

Happiness is that which gets lost in the details of its pursuit.

by HQ Interloper on Oct 22, 2010 11:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Calderon had a lot of his success years ago as one of the premier backup point guards in the NBA. As a full-time starter, he’s shown an inability to stay healthy and perform at a high level on a consistent basis. His defence is atrocious. I think it was Dave Berri’s Wages of Wins that stated Calderon turns every opposing point guard into an MVP-level Steve Nash.

I agree with you 100% that a player’s salary should not dictate his role. Sure, Calderon is overpaid as a backup. But he got his contract, so deal with it. Put him in the role that best suits both the player and the team.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Oct 22, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to say that I am quite impressed with Reggie Evans, but please do not compare him to the Worm. Rodman was in a class by himself. Evans is not nearly as athletiis and he does not have the high IQ that the Worm did.

Calderon has been disappointing to say the least. Maybe it is time to let him go. I am sure if he were on a team like the Miami Heat or the lakers, he would thrive. maybe it is too mucg to say, after all it is just the preseason

by Jeffrey Thompson on Oct 22, 2010 12:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Calderon vs Jack starting, does not matter who starts!!!

Raptors last year with Bosh averaged 104.1 ppg on offense, with Jack/Jose splitting starting and minutes in half.
This preseason sans Bosh are averaging 108.7 ppg with Jack/Jose splitting starting and minutes in half. IT’S ONLY PRESEASON, BUT WHAT’S WRONG WITH THAT ???

THRU 7 GAMES: Playmaking @ the PG position
Jack-162mins-34ast-17to’s Avg 4.9ast, 2.43 turnovers
Jose-151mins-36ast-9to’s Avg 5.1ast, 1.29 turnovers
Banks-33mins-2ast-1to Avg .7ast, .33 turnovers (3gms avg 11mpg)

With the offense being shared by 7 players scoring in double figures over 7 games, who cares if Calderon is only averqaging 4.7 ppg ??? ITS A TEAM GAME !!! THEY WILL SCORE>

The problem that needs improving is cohesion on the defensive side between the guards and the bigs, so that when the initial defense is beaten, which will happen as there are few players who can guard one on one in the NBA, there is help defense, and rotations to stop the layup parades.

This is the most difficult thing to master in defense and will be a work in process all season as they learn to depend on one another.
It will be the responsibility of the coaching staff to demand compliance to their plan and not play players who do not buy into the system.

by Johnn19 on Oct 22, 2010 12:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t think the issue with Calderon is on the offensive side of the ball. The assist-to-turnover ratio is still strong (5-to-1, I believe) despite his obvious struggles shooting the rock.

The issue is defensively. And while Jarrett Jack is never going to be considered a defensive stopper, I would argue that he’s performing at a much higher level on both sides of the ball in the preseason.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Oct 22, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

the 108.7 ppg stats are skewed because of the double overtime – take that out and the ppg is much lower – lets not get too much into preseason stats

by Rapster on Oct 22, 2010 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Fair point, but their defensive stats are similarly skewed.

But I agree – preseason is for your eyes, not the numbers.

by dhackett1565 on Oct 22, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Untradeable?

Is Jose virtually untradeable at this point? I mean, yes, he could be traded for something worse, or even a long-term contract in return. But obvious stuff aside, he looks untradeable to me. His salary, and his liability as a player on the floor (no offence thus far, and no D), makes me think no GM in their right mind would bite on a legit trade.

Is it me, or does Jose look very disinterested on the floor? His energy levels and body language look like yesterdays breakfast.

I would LOVE to see BANKS get more time.

by Nicholas_V on Oct 22, 2010 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Luckily, based on a variety of recent trades, about half the league’s GMs are certifiably insane.

by dhackett1565 on Oct 22, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

this game probably represents the best chance for fans to get an idea of how this Raptors’ team will perform come regular season

I disagree. With this being the final preseason game and the two teams playing again in 5 days in the season opener, neither coach will play their starters for long and neither team will run anything but basic plays and defense. Both teams will be adding stuff that will debut on the 27th. Basically, neither team wants to tip their hand before they play for real.

by siggian on Oct 22, 2010 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Triano would disagree with you. See his post-practice interview yesterday. He said they would be running all their stuff.

by dhackett1565 on Oct 22, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

trust triano to work on the same stuff he is gonna use against them 5 days later

by Rapster on Oct 22, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

His reasoning was that they would be scouting all the games played in the preseason anyway, so no point in hiding anything.

by dhackett1565 on Oct 22, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well said

Well said Johnn19. I’m seeing other guards in the leaque including Jack being beatin by quick cross overs but it’s Calderon that gets pissed on all the time. And no he doesn’t get beat everytime.
If there is a player who can stay in front of Rondo, Stuckey, Nelson, Paul, Wade, Harris , Jennings (on and on) let him step forward and we will name him Jesus.

by raptball on Oct 22, 2010 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I mean really, I miss Gary Payton,a legendary defender, but he would be looking at Rondo’s and Rose’s backsides a good portion of the time too…

Although you know when sometimes you think you blink and you actually fell asleep for a minute or two? I think that happens to Jose a little too often…

by Mikthaniel on Oct 22, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just saved the Raptors...

… well not really but I thought this trade looked interesting…

http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5716949

Considering Oden is gonna be a beast for Portland and Pryzbilla is a solid backup…

Plus what can I say, I’m nostalgic…

by Mikthaniel on Oct 22, 2010 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

pffft, until I realize...

… Pryzbilla is out till at least November…

Well, Anderson can back up Oden for them…

LET’S DO IT!

by Mikthaniel on Oct 22, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

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