Tip-In: Toronto Raptors' Post-game Report - And 1
The Toronto Raptors needed a suspect continuation call and a Lou Williams miss to get it done, but with a 108 to 106 win over the Philadelphia 76ers last night, the Dinos have managed to climb one game over .500 for the first time in months...
Winners of eight of their last 10.
Winners of three in a row.
A half game back of Miami for fifth place in the Eastern Conference.
Only about five games back of the likes of Atlanta and Orlando suddenly for a top three spot in the East.
Yes...it feels pretty good to be a fan of the Toronto Raptors right now.
With a 108 to 106 win over Philly last night, the team continues its roll, one that with a win over the undermanned Celtics tomorrow, could really turn into a nice stretch for the club. The team still faces some tough tests in Dallas, Cleveland and the LA Lakers (twice) this month, but they also play the Knicks, Pacers and Bucks twice each in games that could really help cement their playoff status. Two of the latter three clubs are fighting for one of the Eastern Conference's final playoff births so it's essential that Toronto get W's in most of these matches to keep pace with the East's elite.
Throw in a match against Miami and suddenly January could be the key month in Toronto's 2009-10 campaign in terms of determining playoff seeding.
In that light, while it is only early in January, a comment from one of our readers post-game made me want to poll Raptors' nation:
If the Raps can't catch the fourth seed in the East when all is said and done, which of the top four teams would you prefer the Dinos' face in the first round?
Right now I'm going to say Orlando, Cleveland, Atlanta and Boston in that order.
And if Boston can't stay healthy, I'd swap the final two.
The Hawks as we've seen this season, are simply a terrible match-up for Toronto at present. They've got length and athleticism to cause serious match-up problems, and the toughness and shot-blocking ability in the paint to help negate Chris Bosh.
As we saw in last night's hard-fought win over Philly, Toronto simply doesn't deal well with quickness and athleticism, and it was one of the key reasons they got behind early, and were down by 11 at the half. Last night's game really was Philadelphia's to lose and with nine turnovers in the 3rd quarter and some solid brick-laying offensively, luckily for us fans, they did just that.
In addition, after 20 trips to the free throw line in the first half, the 76ers managed but five the rest of the way as the team got away from the game plan that made them so successful early on. The Raptors' perimeter was having an extremely tough time keeping the uber-quick Lou Williams in check, as well as the likes of Andre Iguodala and even the aging Allen Iverson. Iverson in particular was a thorn in TO's side early, creating for teammates and getting the rim at will.
But as the game progressed, players like Iguodala started to settle for long-range shots and stopped pushing the ball down the Raptors' throats, a strategy that was so effective early on. The Raps get some credit here as well though, doing a much better job preventing said run-outs by being much more effecient in the rebounding department as the game moved on.
The result was a 34 to 25 third quarter in favour of the Raptors, which was all they needed to give them a shot to win in the fourth. Bosh and Andrea Bargnani (with one of his all-around best games of the season) were huge down the stretch on a night when Hedo Turkoglu looked just like the ball-and-chain I thought Toronto overpaid for.
I'm hoping now that the dust has settled on the win that coach Jay Triano and crew learn from last night's contest. Against teams like Philadelphia, amongst the best in the league in terms of fast-break scoring, the club needs to do a much better job in transition.
As well Jay, can we finally rethink the Calderon-Jack-Turkoglu clutch-time three-headed monster?
For the second-straight game I felt it almost cost the Raps the win and as one of our commenters noted, it's "like having too many cooks in the kitchen."
Putting aside Bosh's desperation "And 1" with seconds left in the game, a questionable continuation call at best, the Dinos' clutch-time offence looked hesitant and shaky with too many "thinkers" on the court and not enough "doers." DeMar DeRozan has been pretty agressive the past few games so I'd much prefer to see him in their at the 2 right now, especially on offense since Triano has been switching up O for D on final possessions when possible.
However it's hard to complain too much about that win, one of the most satisfying of the year for me despite the record of the opponent.
It's games like these that Toronto was unable to get back in, or close out, early in the season, and I think a great sign of the progress this club has made over the past few weeks.
Let's once more see if that can translate to an improved effort against the Boston Celtics next...regardless of who suits up for the C's on Sunday.
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Orlando, but it really depends
On what injuries have occurred, how the teams are playing, etc
So much can change in a month or two. Look at the change in the Dinos. A month ago, they were lottery bound and looked hopeless. A month later, they have a solid grasp on 5th or 6th place and if Atlanta or Orlando keep struggling, they could even move up further.
by siggian on Jan 9, 2010 9:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
bosh to houston?
i read on espn Houston want bosh really badly and are going to make a big push for him offering a combination of Aaron brooks Landry ariza and luis scola
by raptors_run_the_show on Jan 9, 2010 9:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Boston does not look too Beat Up
CELTICS
STARTERS M FG FT TR A PF PTS
R. Rondo, PG 42 4-9 1-2 5 10 3 11
R. Allen, SG 41 5-16 2-2 2 2 1 15
P. Pierce, SF 41 8-16 3-6 5 0 1 21
R. Wallace, PF 39 5-15 0-0 3 4 2 11
K. Perkins, C 38 6-10 3-4 14 2 2 15
BENCH M FG FT TR A PF PTS
E. House, SG 16 2-6 2-2 2 3 2 7
G. Davis, PF 13 1-4 2-2 3 1 2 4
S. Williams, PF 6 0-0 1-2 2 0 1 1
B. Scalabrine, C 5 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0
B. Walker, SG Did Not Play
L. Hudson, SG Did Not Play
M. Daniels, SG Did Not Play
T. Allen, SG Did Not Play
J. Giddens, SG Did Not Play
K. Garnett, PF Did Not Play
Garnet was main player out again
by Davl on Jan 9, 2010 9:54 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
No, not AS beat up but still would rather face this team sans KG and Daniels than with both.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Jan 9, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would like to see the raptors play Orlando
i dont kno about everbody else but i didnt forget that orlando send us packing last time TO was in the playoffz and we would get a chance to stick it or vince carter the story line for that kind of playoffs would me sick and there would be a real rivalry there
by raptor king on Jan 9, 2010 10:11 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Continuation
What is the rule on “continuation?” I think Bosh took at least two more steps after the whistle and then threw up the shot; I don’t know if that’s a valid call or not. I get the feelings the refs often like making the “And1” call, complete with emphatic arm gestures so if it’s borderline…they’ll give it (kinda like how I like making “called strike 3” calls when I was umpiring baseball).
by Jdbar93 on Jan 9, 2010 10:11 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Howland and I joked that after they came back from commercial, Bosh was still “in the act of shooting…” they really drew that one out. However I’m not complaining, in some ways it was a good sign as Lebron and Kobe get calls like that all the time.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Jan 9, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
superstar call.
Bosh got one of those “superstar” calls that we’ve all been begging for him to get. Maybe he’s finally starting to get the refs blowing in his favour.
by j-deep on Jan 9, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
allllright...
I said blowing in his favour… giggidy, giggidy…
by j-deep on Jan 9, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bring on the C's(Sunday and PO's)
But way too early to be discussing playoffs.
Like the fact that we pulled out another tight win. Regardless of competition a road win is always sweet. Threw this 9-1 stretch this team has pulled out a few in the last seconds which will only help them grow.
Am far from sold on our “Fab Five” finishing out. In the two games since Jose is back, our crunch time line-up has squandered leads. And no, am not blaming Jose.
The continuation call was the right one. We have all seen much worse called.
Lets not get started with Bosh trades. Team is on the best roll in years. Teams that are 9-1 in last 10 don’t discuss trading their star.
Bosh likes the city. Likes the coach(do you think BC asked him . Has got to respect his GM. We can throw him a streetcar full of money. And we got Bargs signed, Jack signed, Turkoglu and Calderon both signed for what might be their prime years.. DeRozan is ours for a while and lets push to resign either Johnson or Weems.
Throw Bosh in the mix and that’s a still young core with two canny veterans (who get unjustly roasted in cyberspace). Fact is Toronto might be the most attractive situation for Bosh.
by Tinmann on Jan 9, 2010 10:17 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
would not be time
to re evaluate some of the (harsh) commentary made on B.C. on this team composition? Maybe the team IS actually good and some of the starting woes were indeed due to a (very) difficult schedule on a almost brad new team.
What I like of the raps situation is that one can see where the team could (realistically) get better just as a matter of internal growth, in the next seasons but also in this one. I can see Belinelli and Andrea producing more (now) and I can see Amir, Weems and Demar producing more in the near future.
MY hat goes off to BC also for seeing how a CB + AB combo could work and for putting together a nut cases free team that can be good now and better in the future.
THis team has a realistic opportunity of getting to 50 W this year while the better part should come by next season (Do you remember Franchise one of your post on this very topic at the beginning of the season?) and BC, is possibly running for another recognition prize from the league and maybe a healthy (deserved) extension.
by renato on Jan 9, 2010 10:26 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
B.C.s moves suddenly looking great again...
If we can just get Triano to stop with the crunch time lineup…
Starting five of Jack,Demar,Turk,Bosh and Bargs is solid, and with Jack and Demar driving the lane, Bosh doesn`t have to do everything, and Bargs can extend the d…
Bring in Jose, Bellini, Weems and Amir and we`ve got the hustle lineup.. Jose works well with this group as he can drive and kick, and doesn`t have the lane clogged up… also the defensive ability of the others helps mask Jose a bit…
I think closing lineup should be Jack (sorry Jose), Bellini, Weems/Turk, Bosh, Amir/Bargs.. Depending on Defense/Offense and matchups for Amir and Bargs…
All in all though, great win, team seems to be finally getting it together… Amazing what BC did with spare parts and some cash to bring in Weems, Bellini, Amir, Jack, even Wright at times too…
by Lanky07 on Jan 9, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Still disagree
I still think this is a 42 win team. Right now the club is actually on pace for about 44 wins, but in any event, I’ll be extremely surprised if they hit 50. Always liked the moves for guys like Weems, Johnson, Belinelli etc. However it’s the big moves that I still have my doubts about. Again last night, I thought Bosh and Bargs played their best ball seperate from each other (especially Bargs who when paired with Amir was dynamite on D.)
And my good buddy Hedo.
I didn’t want to get into it but against a Philly team that you should be wiping the floor with, your “clutch” player can’t put up 9 points and 1 rebound in 30 minutes…
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Jan 9, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Always said, closer to 50 than 40
We’ve seen the key in last 3 wins. Bargnani playing with a chip on his shoulder.
by Tinmann on Jan 9, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bargs and DeRozan
Those two were my biggest X factors when we discussed it this off-season – if those two continue to elevate their game, 50 is within reach for sure.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Jan 9, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In retrospect
An early season loss to a team like Memphis, and coming back from a 20 point deficit against the Clippers, considering how well those teams are playing does give some perspective on how tough that early stretch was. Giving up 120 points to opponents in blow-outs is still inexcusable, but the team is really getting to a point where I expect them to be competitive in most games from hereon in barring injury. Also, I know how people like to dismiss that stretch of easy games that led to a 5 game winning streak, but they were important because they let the team figure out a process of success that they have been able to apply against higher caliber opponents. From a match up perspective, Philly’s physicality and athleticism make them sort of a poor-man’s Atlanta against the Raps (why I suggested they’d lose in a previous post) so a comeback is definitely an encouraging indicator of improvement
by HQ Interloper on Jan 9, 2010 11:15 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Bargani
That maybe was one of the best games I have seen Bargani play. I’ve been tough on him this season (usually deserved). However, last night we saw glimpses of something special with he and Bosh. Bargs was tough in the paint, scoring, rebounding, blocking and (gasp) providing solid help defense. This last achievment has been the final piece to the puzzle for me. As evidenced over the past week against legit back-to-the-basket oponents such as Howard and Duncan, Bargs can hold his own as far as 1-on-1 D. The help/team defense has always been a challenge for him. But last night he was showing well on screens, clogging the paint, challenging and blocking shots and just being an overall presence. Godd on him. Renato’s head must have exploded if he was watching : )
by MAS11 on Jan 9, 2010 11:20 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
play of the game...
Other then the bosh three point play. I thought the Barg block on Iggy on the previous possession on the fast break was huge. It was a strong aggressive block that all retained possession for the raps. good on Bargs.
by j-deep on Jan 9, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet Emotion
What a site for sore eyes to see Bargs continue to play with a bit of an edge. After the goaltending no-call and his Technical, Bargs attacks the basket with a big dunk. Maybe Reggie has been giving him some tips.
23 pts, 6 reb and 3 blocks, good to start seeing some consistency.
by JeffDrum on Jan 9, 2010 11:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I picked Cleveland
The Raptors always seem to play their best game against the Cavs. Then Magic, Celtics, and Hawks in that order.
by Frag on Jan 9, 2010 1:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
team becomes more complete with reggie
i think were a reggie evans return and one good premiter defender short of being a solid 50 win team and even a championship team if bargs can play like this consistently colangelo should look to good a solid permeter defender if these 3 things can have i see the raps securing 4th place and winning a play off series
by raptors_run_the_show on Jan 9, 2010 1:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
RAPTORS FANS ARE CRAZY
And I think they’ve infected the super-fans here who run raptorsHQ . . .
I remember back in the “old” days, I used to come here for some balanced opinion and calm, collected (and excellently written) Raptors articles. Now, even the writers of this blog seem to freak out in happy/sad ways every time we go on a winning/losing streak. Crazy. (I am like this too, and have been known to break all kinds of stuff in the wake of a loss or even a bad rotation on D.) Yes, admit it everyone: we’re crazy. This city has had such a bunch of losers these last 16 years that we’re willing to take anything we can get.
The bottom line . . . I am an idiot, because, well . . . er . . . I’m starting to believe in these guys . . . goddamn it, I’m setting myself up for another disappointment. I LOVE Reggie Evans, even though he hasn’t played . . . did you see Andrea chest-bump Bosh at the end of the game when he made the 3-point play!!!!!! AAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!! I think I like Andrea now too . . .
until the next loss . . . then, trade them all.
by Original Aaron on Jan 9, 2010 2:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You can always count on me!
I am not form Toronto, so just ask, I will give you my balanced and unbiased opinion :)
by renato on Jan 9, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As per some of my comments today OA, not drinking the BC Kool-Aid yet…there’s still a lot of ball to be played and while this last stretch was a sight for sore eyes, I’ve yet to see the combined Bosh/Bargs/Hedo/Jose balanced attack that Colangelo preached in the off-season.
Until then – I’ll praise wins like last night’s but continue to be vary of this team’s “upside.”
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Jan 9, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
your risk is
to resemble those lone Japaneese soldiers who kept fighting WWII for failing to realize there hasn’t been a war for a long time…
by renato on Jan 10, 2010 4:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What is it that makes Raptors fans so crazy? I’m sure the disaster that is the Leafs has a large responsibility for the warped psyche of the Toronto sports fan. Everyone’s drunk and dizzy after a 8-1 stretch, yet how many of you sobered instantly upon seeing this poll today? BOS, ORL, ATL have OWNED the Raps this season, and the Cavs are probably next. Do any of us imagine we could beat any of them when it’s playoff time???
Here’s a shot at an objective, long term perspective of what we have on our hands:
- we probably agree this is not the crappy, soul-less team we saw earlier this year, that suffered from growing pains and a brutal schedule
- nor is this a contender
- BC has basically laid the foundation for the next 5 years, and the only major question is Bosh…
- meanwhile, the road to the finals will go through LBJ, Howard, Wade, assuming they all stay in the East
Even if we assume the best case scenario (Bosh stays and continues to improve like he has this season), we still have the 4th best player in the East. We are not getting to the finals on talent alone – team synergy will be the key. This means trust, communication, intuition, commitment, smart basketball. Looking at the East, not many teams have that today. Orlando had it last year, now they’re learning to play with the weight of expectations. Boston had it, but Sheed has brought them down so far. Atlanta has it, but will they keep it together next year? Anyone else?
The problem is that team synergy grows from stability and consistency, and that requires patience. Which is exactly where the fans are deficient. The fact is though, this team is not going anywhere any faster by trading Bosh, Jose, Triano or Colangelo. But if they can grow together, they have a chance to play beautiful basketball and do us proud. I’d much rather cheer for a team that has come through the hard times, than a team like Boston that went from worst to first overnight, or whatever LeBron and the Russian are cooking up for the Jerski Nyets.
PS does anyone think LeBron will ever fulfill his potential if he continues to manipulate organizations like he has in Cleveland? Who will be his Phil Jackson?
by Vlad C on Jan 9, 2010 5:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The thing with the NBA is
that it is all about who you meet with, what situation they were in and in what part of their schedule they were surfing when you met them. You said it yourself , chemistry brings an added value and it is something that cannot be improvised (most of the times). Lots of team have blown away the raps at the beginnign of the year that will not be able to do it again, not in the same way. If this team does not become complacent, it can improve substantially, with the current roster, between here and the playoffs. It is going to be interesting seeing how the raps will fare against the C tomorrow. Based on talent aone they should prevail but up till now te C have won just by showing up and putting up a brave face.
by renato on Jan 9, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
we probably agree this is not the crappy, soul-less team we saw earlier this year, that suffered from growing pains and a brutal schedule
- nor is this a contender
- BC has basically laid the foundation for the next 5 years, and the only major question is Bosh…
- meanwhile, the road to the finals will go through LBJ, Howard, Wade, assuming they all stay in the East
Completely agree.
I expected this team to take some time to get it together but even now that they appear to have done so, I’m not ready to print any second-round playoff tickets yet. This team still has a long ways to go and today’s poll was much more of a conversation starter than anything else.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Jan 9, 2010 7:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There is still a lot to be concerned about with this team going forward. Forget about whether or no the Raps will finish in the top 4 as they will need to finish in the top 2 to realistically avoid playing a good team and I do not see one of Cleveland, Boston, Atlanta or Orlando dropping significantly let alone 2 of them. That means even if TO got the 4th spot they would still face one of those teams. Baring a trade to fix some of the issues with the team, I am not sure they can beat any of those teams in a 7 game series.
As for whether Toronto should trade Bosh or Calderon, I think it is a moot point. BC cannot trade Bosh or Calderon without admitting he is incompetent (unless one of them demanded a trade and forced his hand) so he will not make a move until the offseason. Get ready for 40 cents on the dollar in a sign and trade folks because that is what is coming. I know Bosh is saying all the right things but what else is he suppose to say, “I would rather play with another superstar and in a warmer city”? Yall are setting yourselves up for another TMac situation as Bosh has no choice right now but to toe the line as he doesn’t want to look petulant right before he hits pay dirt in free agency. Love it or hate it, that is they way the NBA works.
by McGateway on Jan 10, 2010 1:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sorry about the harsh question
do you score at all with women?
If there is a way NOT to score with a woman is keeping asking yourself why in hell she sould go out with you.
Applying that to Basketball and Bosh and pls ealize there aren’t so many places where he can get he max, be the almost uncontested MAN in a Big city/market that love him, in a team where he is surrounded by talented players with big upside.
I agree it is still a bet, but what gives this team a real chanche is the signing of Andrea a (in relative terms) cheap long contract. That will always give the team te (cap) flexibiity to try to do something special that you won’t be able to do in Miami
by renato on Jan 10, 2010 4:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bosh will stay
There are two types of players in this league: me-first and team-first. Bosh has given all indications that he is the latter. Compare him to Carter or McGrady who have shown a me-first approach their entire careers.
What players/coaches know and fans mostly ignore, is that this is a team sport, and team cohesion is far more important than individual talent. And team includes the entire organization, not just the guys in uniform. It’s what players like Nash, Dirk, Garnett, Duncan have known all along, like Jordan, Kobe, maybe Vince? who learned it as they got older, and like Iverson or McGrady who never got it.
Why would Bosh leave behind a situation that seems to be finally stabilizing, to join a team like Chicago, Miami, New York, Jersey, Clippers, Warriors or any other chronically dysfunctional organization? It’s not like he needs to increase the level of difficulty. He needs to get to the finals.
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