Game Day Thread - Toronto vs. Orlando
Toronto Raptors at Orlando Magic, Jan 6, 2010 7:00 PM EST
Looking to avoid the season sweep the Raps are in Orlando to face a Magic team coming off a brutal loss to the Indiana Pacers. Can the Raps take advantage of a team against the ropes?
GO RAPS!
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Arenas suspension is about right. I don’t understand the love he still gets.
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 6, 2010 7:15 PM EST reply actions
Pistol pose last night
I think that was the proverbial straw that pushed Stern over the edge.
I think that was the stupidest thing I’ve seen done by a player.
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 6, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
Good D by A
too bad his O powder is wet at the moment
I’m at work, so I’ll be lurking a lot
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 6, 2010 7:28 PM EST reply actions
Arenas issue
Does this mean Washington is blown up? Jamison to Cleveland?
who are the guys in red shirt?
and what did they do to the Raptors?
They killed them and are wearing their skin suits
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 6, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
haahahahahaah....
Amazing what a 5 game winning streak will do eh?
Robbie Alomar
Thought he deserved to be in the HOF today. I think the spitting incident cost him. He’ll get in next year though.
No euros
Was that the first time Jay’s rolled out a no-euro lineup this year? (Bosh, Amir, Wright, Demar, JJ)
Bad at both ends. Looked very tentative on offense. Defense was so-so. A few too many open looks, both inside and outside.
Hey kiddies....
sorry for being late…just making dinner.
I like the Raps energy early. They seem interested.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 7:42 PM EST reply actions
PLEASE
CAN SOMEONE TAKE OUT WRIGHT I CANT STAND HIM
Should we deal for Reddick....
just so we don’t have to match-up against him 4 times a year?!
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 7:43 PM EST reply actions
a block from Turk?
I can happily go back to sleep…
Raps are really playing with a lot of energy on the Defensive end
I know we are behind, but still… this is best I’ve seen them play agains Orlando this year.
4 point play was awful, but aside from that, this quarter has been much much much better at both ends. Looks like Belli is out of the rotation?
if even Beli shoots
you know it is one of those nighs….
Off Topic
Arenas is not one of my favourites, but that punishment is out of proportion
Give him a month
just to make a point. Indefinete? it is ajole
HUH?
Can you imagine what would happen in your workplace if someone was showing and pointing GUNS?! You would be fired.
He should have his contract voided and arguably go to jail if they were not properly registered.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
there was no pointing
he has put three guns on a table making a joke for the other guys asking him which one he would use (since the other guys said he would use one )
who cares if there wasn't
he had three guns in a workplace!
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
May I ask
Remind me, how long , that guy play for the Lakers, was suspended for, for raping a lady?
Different circumstances
Not on NBA property so the NBA took the position that the justice system should deal with it and then the NBA.
Here it was in an NBA lockeroom. He could end up the next Plaxico Burress. Renato we can disagree on ball players but it scares me if you think what Gil and Critter did doesn’t deserve HARSH penalites.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 7, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
I believe we agree on the harsh and we disagree on the meaning of it. A one month suspension would mean a couple of million $ and that is harsh to me (At lest for my wallet). Moreover do not forget this incident has been brought up by the wizards owner, likely with the scope of getting a rid of his contract.
This in a situation where it is known most NBA players do own a gun. So the outstanding thing is he put those guns in the Locker. You want to make an example. OK, do it within reason. Suspended “indefinitely” is not acceptable because it leaves the final punishment up to the mood of one person and I am not used to deal with the mood of an emperor. Punishments are based on (possibly clear) rules everybody have to obey and the punishment should be known in advance, like in any no “bananas republic” system.
I think he should lose the rest of the reason.. but not void his contract. Even though it would REALLY help the Wizs if his contract gets voided. He’s a huge albatross right now.
I think people ignore...
how serious it is. If this was any one profession would Arenas have a job? Maybe if he was a hitman for hire or the transporter….but he’s not. He should miss the season and have his contract voided. If I am Washington I wanted out of it anyway.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
Why so soft, Raptors?
Loved seeing 0 and 24 taking it to the basket. Why won’t the bigs?
I think renato...
is enjoying that
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
Oh Lord....
here’s that Jack/Calderon line-up I hate
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 8:04 PM EST reply actions
JJ is not bringing his A game this evening
To be honest the team seems better this evening with Jose
sure
just not together.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
I think...
you are touching on a bigger issue. The Raps need to get more production from the 2 guard spot to really turn a corner. DeRozan needs time and in a perfect world would be coming off the bench.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
he has had an impressive shooting display so far
He will need to work on his handles during the summer, you can see he can explode phisically, just his handles are keeping him from making moves as fast as hid body would allow him to
Tonight sure....
prior to Calderon’s injury they did not play well together.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
Raps up by 11?
uys, pls give me three proves the alarm did not fail to go off and I am not still alseep :)
First Half
Really impressed with the Raps thus far.
Good energy, active hands and effective offense. Nice to see Calderon back.
Everyone seems to be bringing their A game which is essential against this Orlando team.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 8:10 PM EST reply actions
DS is on life support
he was heard saying : there ar eno more sure things in life…..
Haha. I’m sorry I didn’t get to watch our candidate for Defensive Player of the Year in action in the first half.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
He also has much more points from down low than from outside J
if he can mix it up he goes right up in the echelon
Dirk parallel?
It took a few years before Dirk started to drive and use his size/speed advantage. Hope this is a good sign.
Around The League
Hawks killing the Nets at halftime, no surprise. Probably be 7 or 8 Hawks in double figures scoring at the end.
Heat up over Boston, 35-30 after 1. Boston has everyone back except KG. Boxscore indicates Dwayne Wade is going off.
Cavs put up 65 in the first half on the Bullets. Shaq has 16 in <10 minutes.
Looks like this game here is the one to watch. Keep it here.
I want to know how the magic handle their half time scolding..
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 6, 2010 8:21 PM EST reply actions
So how did Jose look in the backup role in the first half?
Anyone care to weigh in?
How does Jose look with the 2nd unit? Is it a good fit even though he doesn’t usually take chances or push the pace?
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 8:21 PM EST reply actions
to be Honest
he has been better than jack on both O and D….
Jose picked up Brandon Bass on a switch and forced a turnover. That was good. He was able to keep in front of White Chocolate. Didn’t look quite as good against Jameer.
I’d like to see Jose resume his place as the best backup PG in the league. Sure, he’s making way too much money to be a backup — but it’s a better role for him on this ball club.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
Jose's shooting
Would love to see Jose become almost exclusively a spot-up shooter in this Jack-Jose end of half/game lineup. He could be a real weapon in that capacity, and could get lots of open looks with Hedo or Jack running the O.
I don’t agree with calderon as a back up on this team. the second unit plays quick and on the fast break. that’s not jose’s strong suit.
You have to weigh that against what was happening defensively with Jose in the starting lineup.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
Do you guys in Toronto get the TNT commercials with Dwight Schrute driving NBA players around his cab?
it seems like hey do not
I wonder if they pull the one with Arenas
They’ll redo the Arenas one so they’re doing a driveby out the cab window. Haha.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
Orlando,,,,
will go on a run here shortly…it will be imperative that Toronto fight it off.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 8:31 PM EST reply actions
I hope not to bring a bad karma but...
the run may be… out of the building…..
Raptors are showing something here...
Doesn’t seem like there will be a third quarter collapse tonight.
And that stat about the Raptors being 8-0 since the beginning of December when DeRozan scores in double figures.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 8:37 PM EST reply actions
and the other
about being 13-0 if they keep the opponent at less than 50 at half….
all circumstancial evidence, I know, but….
Dare I say....
most complete game of the reason thus far
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
69-55 Raps
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
Chris forcing?
These last 2 possesion looks pretty bad.
Here's the run...
I referred to.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 8:43 PM EST reply actions
6-point lead now
That signature Raptors perimeter D is rearing its ugly head…
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 8:43 PM EST reply actions
Alex English was just giving him an earful while DeRozan bit his fingernails.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
Can you say...
in the zone!
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
Everyone is bringing it right now...
a collective effort. Great game to watch!
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
4th foul AND the technical
Nice work, CB4!
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 8:52 PM EST reply actions
Howard has more turnovers than rebounds right now (8 TOs vs. 7 boards), and just picked up his fifth foul. Fantastic!
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
Now brace yourself
Andrea today he been left in the game for his defense and rebounding, not for his O….
you shoul dbe going to listen to triano interview about Belinelli
and the fauls he gets (he went on record saying Beli is a flopper)
Hey now. You gotta emphasize to the refs the correct call at times.
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 6, 2010 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
I know but
triano specifically spoke about beli and the fauslhe gest on illegal screens by “embellishing” contacts
I love being at work for a “Great game to watch”
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 6, 2010 8:58 PM EST reply actions
Man, you are missing a beauty. At least as far as that 3rd quarter was concerned. I missed the first half.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
Good game.
Not great…. Orlando is shooting itself in the foot. Waaaay too many turnovers right now. What’s impressed me so far is Raps defensive intensity. Don’t get me wrong they aren’t the Celtics, but they are the Raps for the first 29 games either. I’m hoping this is a indication of things to come.
Man
I could not be more surprised or impressed right now!
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
18-point lead after the 3rd quarter
Barring a disastrous 4th quarter — which should be next to impossible for the Magic to pull off minus D Howard — this has to get Best Game of the Season honours.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 9:00 PM EST reply actions
Can you RRR?
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks....
I have been working around the clock and it would allow me to hit the sack early tonight.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
Your guy, Whright is shutting your mouth up
Let’s hope he keeps it up
I want the raptors to win by 30
i didnt forget what happened the first meeting
Neither did I. There was this damn Howard supporter up where I was… Chants of “Get…A…Girlfriend.”
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 6, 2010 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
Time to put Andrea in
Those guys out there are asleep on bkocks and rebounding
There’s a big shot from your boy followed by a turnover while he was trying to post up. You win some, you lose some.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
Raptors up 10
I know the Magic are small right now and the Raps are matching that lineup — but Bass is killing it. Perhaps giving Amir some run right now?
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 9:06 PM EST reply actions
It's simple....
Raps close out on shooters and Raps win.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
You know this is the Raps right?
It’s never over…
Two threes and great D
Com’on DS, cheer for your guys :)
Hey, Bargs is impressing me tonight.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
Bargs with ANOTHER 3!
I like the killer instinct here.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 9:10 PM EST reply actions
not just the O
have you noice they do not try to score from close to the bucket anymore?
Bellinelli made a great play on the last defensive possession. He anticipated that a pass was about to go to JJ Reddick, and he sprinted there so that Reddick wouldn’t be able to get a shot off. Smart, great play.
Bargs is getting screwed right now
That’s a shame because he was playing well.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 9:17 PM EST reply actions
Back to a 10-point game again
The way this Magic team can bomb from outside, the next few mins will be scary.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 9:18 PM EST reply actions
Damn
That was a BIG shot by Turk
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 9:18 PM EST reply actions
Defense...
HAS TO TIGHTEN UP!!!
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 9:18 PM EST reply actions
I think I saw...
the refs bookie in the stands.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
Ok...
enough Jose. Dear God Triano don’t blow this!!!
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 9:22 PM EST reply actions
tell me about it...
everyone is compensating for him on D.
So many things I dislike about this team on display right now
Antoine Wright playing in crunch time next to the Jarrett Jack-Jose Calderon backcourt. It’s like Triano has no concept of what his best lineups are.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 9:23 PM EST reply actions
Don't panic
still have a six point lead and the ball with 3 minutes left. Try to keep scoring. Bosh had the ball in good position last time — should have taken it up strong and drawn contact.
So he takes Wright out but sticks with the horrific Jack-Calderon backcourt. Honestly, does anyone on the coaching staff watch the games? Or are they just staring into the rafters at the arena?!?
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 9:27 PM EST reply actions
they are calling whispers onone side
and nothing on the other…
First game of the year
where I am screaming at the TV. I am HATING what Triano is doing. If the Raps blow this I am going to go ballistic.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 9:27 PM EST reply actions
Calderon
gave up the long rebound by not boxing out Redick.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
This is why Calderon needs to be traded. It just doesn’t work. Triano has no clue how to make it work.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 9:28 PM EST reply actions
Raps aren’t rebounding so they put in… Belinelli.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 9:29 PM EST reply actions
perimeter defense
moreover all rebounds were long rebounds
I don’t like the fact that Triano is reacting to what Van Gundy and the Magic are doing instead of setting the tone himself.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
Or maybe have Bosh take it at Howard and get him fouled out?
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
It make sense, althought
I am afraid of the superstar no-call on howard
A Vince Carter dunk to bring them within two...
… of course
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 9:32 PM EST reply actions
Not Jose’s fault that the staff doesn’t understand a good lineup. All of us should just boo the Jack Calderon back court and cheer when they are out there alone. Maybe the staff will get it then
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 6, 2010 9:33 PM EST reply actions
Time? Score? Possession?
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 6, 2010 9:36 PM EST reply actions
You have to question whether Hedo Turkoglu really cares when he’s launching a fallaway 3 with the Raps up by two and less than 24 seconds remaining.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 9:36 PM EST reply actions
Dude, you know he shoots that same shot with 18 seconds left on the shot clock.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
He has been chucking.
Where is Mr. Fourth quarter?!
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
Here we go
Jack misses the back end of the free throws to keep it at a one possession game. If this goes to OT, we’re losing…
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 9:38 PM EST reply actions
RESET
Up 3, Orlando ball with 16 seconds left.
Two words...
CLOSE OUT!!!!!
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 9:39 PM EST reply actions
How does our “defensive unit” include Calderon and not Amir Johnson?!?!
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 9:39 PM EST reply actions
Triano...
is driving me MAD right now.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 9:40 PM EST reply actions
Keeping Calderon on the floor defensively is killing me. You question how this guy is coaching at this level.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
Scary as crap
Redick missed a 3, Bosh got the rebound and called timeout.
Bosh for MVP
HUGE rebound there.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 9:40 PM EST reply actions
Magic coach Ron Jeremy looks pissed.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 9:41 PM EST reply actions
up 5 with 7 seconds
banning an harakiri, it is done
Jack Armstrong actually complimented Triano's substitution pattern
I don’t know what to say about that.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 9:43 PM EST reply actions
You said it.
Even though they made it interesting at the end, they’ve now beaten San Antonio AND Orlando. Both those teams are championship contenders.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
in a perfect world
we beat Philly and we rape the C on Sunday
BIG BIG BIG
Not pretty at the end but you can’t discount this W.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jan 6, 2010 9:47 PM EST reply actions
Unhappy win? Man. I really hope someone takes the coaching staff out back and gives them a talking to. Preferably Colangelo.
On another note… Why do I think having the two on the court is for political reasons so both have high minutes…
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jan 6, 2010 9:56 PM EST reply actions
It has to be political because it doesn’t make basketball sense. Instead of Jack being aggressive and driving to the basket like he did against the Spurs, you have him playing off the ball and spotting up in the corner for a three pointer.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
Don't get the hate for Jose
You guys are right. Jack, Calderon, Turkoglu on floor on the court at same time does not make sense. Almost cost us the game.
Triano is going to half to hurt some feelings but one has to sit near end of close games.
But why is it all on Jose? Thought he ran the offense well and seems that his defense is being put under a microscope.
Our best lineup — according to adjusted plus/minus — is Bosh, Bargnani, Turkoglu, Belinelli and Calderon.
However, at the end of tonight’s game, it would’ve been nice to see Jack with the ball in his hands and the ability to drive and create or draw the foul (witness our lack of free throws in the fourth quarter). Instead, we get treated to Jack playing off the ball and spotting up in the corner like a poor man’s Anthony Parker.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jan 6, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions

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