Kevin O'Neill and the Link on D to the 2009-10 Toronto Raptors
Franchise takes a look at the 2003-04 Raptors under Kevin O'Neill and wonders just how great of a defensive club they were...
Aaaah the Friday before Film Festival here in Toronto.
For about the fourth year in a row, I got up at the crack of dawn to try and get tickets, only to have the Film Festival's horrific online booking path crash.
You'd think by year four (or longer actually) they would have gotten this thing figured out by now right? I mean, it's not like suddenly this year there are going to be way less people trying to book online!
Talk about maddening.
And of course by the time I probably get through later today, the tickets will all have been snatched up.
So what does this have to do with our beloved Raptors?
Well nothing really...except that my plan today was to talk about the 2004-04 version of the Toronto Raptors and as I was typing I realized that there is a common link between the two:
Both were frustrating as hell to endure.
Remember this incarnation of the Raptors? Kevin O'Neill at the helm and an unbelievable 23 different players who donned a Dinos' jersey that year? It was a motley crew indeed, and one that had future NBA All-Stars like Robert Archibald, Mengke Bateer, Lonny Baxter, Corie Blount, Rick Brunson, Dion Glover, Jerome Moiso, Milt Palacio, and Chris Jeffries.
Yikes.
And did you remember that other names such as Roger Mason Jr., Rod Strickland, Michael Curry and Jannero Pargo were part of that group?
I know what you're thinking: "playground sensation Rod Strickland was a Raptor?"
It was a strange season and indeed a tough one on the fans.
Prior to the start of the season, there was actually new hope thanks to the arrival of coach O'Neill. Fans had lamented that previous coach Lenny Wilkens had been too soft on his troops and hadn't implemented any sort of defensive system. As a result, while the team (when healthy) was still a joy to watch, the results just weren't there in terms of wins and after previous success under Wilkens, the club's record plummeted to 24 and 58.
It was time for a change and GM Glen Grunwald did just that by essentially hiring Wilkens' opposite. KO was a defense-first, no-nonsense coach and the hope was that a healthy core of Carter, Williams, JYD and Davis, along with the addition of promising rookie Chris Bosh, would when combined with KO's philosophies, return the Raptors to the playoffs after a one year absence.
We all know how things turned out.
Davis and JYD were shipped to Chicago for a collection of players including Jalen Rose and Donyell Marshall, and while the club won nine more games, the end of the season marked the end of both O'Neill's coaching tenure in Toronto, and Grunwald's General Manager status as well.
However historically, many look at the 2003-04 Raptors as the best defensive club in the franchise's history and recently, current Raptors' coach Jay Triano re-established a link to this era. He indicated that one of his assistants, Marc Iavaroni, would be implementing many of KO's old defensive philosophies from their time together in Memphis, and the assumption is that Raptors' fans will again see many defensive traits from that 03-04 club.
One of our readers remarked recently that KO's defensive system though could have been vastly overrated. To the agony of fans, O'Neill implemented a snail's pace scheme at both ends of the court meaning fewer possessions for both the Raptors and their opponents, and perhaps this was the real cause of defensive fortitude.
I thought this was a very interesting point and not only that, I remembered that back in 2003-04, the NBA style of play was still quite different as well; hand-checking on D was much more common, immobile big men were still the common theme in the post, and the game was not as dominated by the uber-athlete swingman.
Yes, Kobe was clearly one of the best in the game, but at this point he was still sharing the limelight with Shaq, and 2003-04 marked the rookie year for the likes of Lebron and D-Wade.
For proof of this, one only needs to gaze at the NBA Finals, where a non-star laden Detroit Piston club surprised the favoured LA Lakers and using a KO-esque slow-down pace and tough defensive style, captured the NBA title.
But getting back to the Raptors, was the club truly a great defensive team that year?
Gazing at some metrics from basketball-reference.com, it looks like yes, this was a very sound team on D. The club improved from a defensive rating of 26th in the NBA (fourth worst) under Wilkens to 7th, a huge leap. And considering that for a good portion of the year, players like Jalen Rose (not exacty a great defender) were key cogs in Toronto's system, it's hard not to say that O'Neill implemented a defensive system that was very effective despite his individual players' shortcomings. His club kept opponents from shooting above 43% offensively and across the board, the D was much improved over previous seasons.
But what about pace? Did KO slow things down to such a halt that it made the Raps' defensive numbers look better than they appeared?
Well this could be part of things for sure. Toronto that year played at the 3rd slowest pace in the league (27th out of 29 teams.) However that's not really a black and white resolution. The previous year under Wilkens, Toronto still played at a reasonably slow pace (7th slowest in the league.) So while it may have appeared that KO ground things to a halt, I think the reality was that he simply did a better job of installing defensive principles in his troops, something that admittedly is now a bit shocking considering the amount of personnel changes the club went through. It's one thing to have a full training camp with core players and teach them the ropes on D, it's another when most of those players get traded away a few months into the season and you have to constantly re-teach your philosophies.
So am I lauding the job KO did?
Yes, I suppose I am to a certain degree.
But more than that, looking over the stats from the 2003-04 has me admittedly excited to see just what coach Iavaroni can do to help this club's wonky D. Everyone agrees that Toronto should have one of the most potent offensive clubs in the league and if they can play some semblance of defence, then suddenly this could be a very dangerous club.
And while I have stated in the past that coaching in the NBA is overrated compared to the NCAA, I do feel that it's in areas like this that coaches can have a profound impact. No one would have picked the Magic to be the league's top defensive club last year Howard or no Howard and yet Stan Van Gundy coaxed a solid wall against opponents from a group that individually, weren't top notch stoppers.
Hopefully Mr. Iavaroni can do the same.
And hopefully the transition from one of the worst defensive teams in the league to at least one that can hold its own, for the viewing public, isn't akin to purchasing these film fest tickets...
...which over an hour later, I'm still unable to do.
FRANCHISE
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Solid Coaching
Nice read Franchise.
Wow, you’re really throwin out some classic raptor names… Strickland, moiso…. wow.
Your article brings up a point that I think get’s overlooked when people start to evaluate this version of the Raps. Iavaroni.
This could turn out to be as big a move for BC as the Turkoglu signing and warrents serious consideration when postulating how many wins the Raps will get this year. Call me a blind optimist, but when I add up all the pieces, the depth and the coaching I see a SOLID crew top to bottom.
Other teams may have players with more individual talent, but this is a TEAM that will be a tough match for anyone. And if the coaching staff (which includes 2 team USA assistant coaches) can have the expected impact on preparation and direction, this team could be a solid playoff contender.
So c’mon prognosticators… let’s look at ALL the facts when evalutating this team and give them a little more credit than an outside shot at the playoffs. I for one am putting my order for playoff tickets in NOW!!!
Go Raps!!
Never underestimate the power of denial
by vulcanoboy on Sep 4, 2009 9:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pace
Another point about pace affecting defense, is that the cause-and-effect works both ways. Perhaps actually more the other way. I don’t really see how slowing down the attack could affect the other team’s offensive efficiency (overall points yes, but not shooting percentages).
However, a good defensive strategy could easily be the cause of a slower pace. If opponents are forced to use the entire shot clock to get an opportunity to score, with no easy baskets on fast breaks or in the first 10 seconds, the number of possessions will go down significantly over the course of a game.
Comparitively, a team that forces the other team to take on average 18 seconds off the shot-clock each play, versus a team that allows a 7-seconds or less offense to operate, (assuming a 16 second offense for both cases), will generate FORTY (yes 40!) less possessions PER TEAM over the course of a game (85 vs 125). This is an extreme case, but the effect is noticeable.
Even forcing a team to take 18 seconds per possesion versus my assumed 16 seconds would reduce the number of possessions per team (and thus decrease the pace) by 5.
Add in that KO had a grindingly slow offensive strategy as well, and the slow pace is unsurprising.
by dhackett1565 on Sep 4, 2009 9:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bang on regarding pace.
That’s one of the reasons the Suns under their 7 seconds or less offence were always viewed as a terrible defensive team even though they were middle of the road in reality; fast paced teams always give off a “bad defensive” impression because of the number of shot attempts while plodding clubs always get over-valued for their defensive abilities.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Sep 4, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
...Robert ...Archibald
Amazing – those 2 small words are a punchline by themselves.
I remember ‘03-’04 starting with Vince complaining about how “Bosh wouldn’t help them immediately”, and how they should have traded the pick to get a veteran. Who knew the real answer would have been to draft Wade and trade Vince for an all-star F/C.
The fact that Milt Palacios played in 59 games and shot .349 pretty much says it all. Even Will Solomon in ‘08-’09 shot .436!
by B.C. on Sep 4, 2009 9:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t have time pre-work to write about that side of the coin but yes, while this might be the best defensive team in Raptors’ history, it was also historically bad offensively. I don’t have the numbers off-hand but this morning I remember looking at them and thinking “maybe the team was so good defensively because they spent so much time at that end of the court!”
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Sep 4, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Iavaroni / KO
I’m not as excited.
Iavaroni is certainly one of the best assistants the Raps have had in recent years, but when the majority of assistants are rookie’s, the bar isn’t very high.
Both of them collectively are quite possibly the two worst head coaches to have ever been affiliated with this raptors organization. I think IF this defence is succesful Triano will be the reason for it.
by Mycall on Sep 4, 2009 10:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
With Alvin hurt and Davis sulking, KO never really had a chance (unless Carter had been willing to carry the team – ha!). Clearly this team had depth issues. It’s a good point, too, that it’s really difficult to put up decent defensive numbers while churning through personnel.
I've been looking at the sky
by Back In Black on Sep 4, 2009 11:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Urg. That year of basketball was almost unwatchable for me. Between Palacio not being able to finish simple layups, to the complete lack of entertaining basketball, I wanted to drive a nail into each eye so I wouldn’t have to watch anymore of it…
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Sep 4, 2009 11:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In fact forget that being the best defensive incarnation of the Raptors, was that the most unwatchable version of the Dinos ever?
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Sep 4, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To me it was. I mean, I’d rather have sat through that T-mac + D Walker season. I just couldn’t stand watching our athletes getting reduced to slogging it through the season
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Sep 5, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was still watching the raptors with a condascending sneer in those days, but i felt issues between vc and ko seemed obvious. Me and my buddy also thought ko should get another year just to piss off vc. Though wasn’t it the next year smitch was choking him in locker room?
by axl t on Sep 5, 2009 1:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
That’s right. And Rafer was going to retire. It was entertaining to say the least :)
KO’s year was just boring. Boooooooring. No two ways about it really.
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Sep 5, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs














