The X Factor Report - Andrea Bargnani
With DeRozan and Turkoglu accounted for, Franchise turns his attention to his third individual X-Factor report of the off-season; Andrea Bargnani.
12.4 points, 4.3 rebounds, 1.1 assists, 0.8 blocks, 42 per cent from the field and 38 per cent from long range.
These are the career averages of Andrea Bargnani.
Do they sound like the averages of a former first overall pick with three years NBA experience?
Not exactly.
And yet this past off-season, the Toronto Raptors decided to re-sign Andrea to a five-year, $50 Million dollar extension, likely keeping him in TO for the next half a decade.
Does this make sense?
Well I won't drone on about my lack of comprehension behind the timing of this signing by Raptors' management, however it's obvious as to why the decision was eventually made.
It's all about upside.
As Raptor fans know, the previous statistics are only a glimpse into the world of "Il Mago." After a "lost at sea" sophomore campaign, Andrea finally broke through in the second half of last season with new coach Jay Triano at the reigns. He averaged 19.8, 17.9 and 20.3 points respectively from January through March and saw his rebounding and block numbers jump up as well. The thinking of course was that this was finally a true glimpse of the player Bryan Colangelo had assumed he was drafting back in 2006, and that this coming season would finally be a chance for Andrea to show his All-Star potential.
But of course this is no guaranteed scenario. With three quarters of last year's team replaced, and another adept ball-handler and multi-talented offensive force in the starting line-up with him, Raptors' fans could be in for another roller-coaster season from Andrea as he tries to get accustomed to yet another new role and of course new teammates. (Luckily some of these he's had the pleasure of playing with before and some he's even shot commercials with.)
Also troublesome is his recent performance at the European Championships underway right now in Poland. Even with three NBA players on the roster (including new Raptors' teammate Marco Belinelli), Bargnani's squad was quickly eliminated from medal contention after disappointing losses to teams like Finland - hardly basketball powerhouses.
The Italian press in fact placed much of the blame for the losses on Bargnani. La Gazzetta Dello Sport even went so far as to say that Bargs justified his "Il Mago" nickname by being able to disappear in games right before the eyes of the crowd!
Unfortunately as Raptors' fans, we've seen this movie before too; the one where Andrea disappears in games for long stretches and in the process ends up being a walking-running basketball liability.
However at other times, there's no denying that Bargnani is simply unstoppable, able to score from inside and out, as demonstrated in this highlight package.
So the question for Raptors' fans, is which Andrea shows up this year, and if it's the unstoppable version, can this level of play be sustained for an entire season? We've seen flashes of brilliance and even some sustainability over a period of a few months, but after three seasons, it's really hard to know just what you're going to get from Andrea night-in and night-out.
And really to me, that's what makes Bargs the club's biggest X Factor going into the season. More than any other player on the roster, his level of play could determine how successful this team is, and more than any other player, it's extremely hard to know just what to expect from him in 2009-10. However should he take the next step in his career as many predict, then suddenly the current version of the Toronto Raptors will be very tough to stop.
The player that Bargnani is most often compared to is Dirk Nowitzki. Both have great mobility, quickness, and shooting touch for players their size, not to mention both are foreign stars. Andrea may in fact be more mobile than Dirk, however he's yet to show that he's got the same all-around game, especially in the paint, nor have the same grit and mental toughness as Nowitzki.
Dirk is hardly Dwyane Wade, however he's shed his "soft" level over the past few seasons, and continues to be one of the most consistent players in the league. He's averaged around 25 points a game his last five years to go with a shade under 9 boards, and is the unquestioned leader of his Dallas Mavericks ball club. Bargnani on the other hand is hardly the leader of the Raptors, nor has he shown any degree of consistency through three seasons.
However there are major differences between Nowitzki and Bargnani in terms of their career development paths so I'm not sure it's fair to simply line them up side by side.
For instance Dirk became his club's focal point pretty much by the end of season two and therefore in his third season, broke out upping his scoring from about 18 points a game to 22, and his rebounding from 6 to 9.
Bargnani really only became the second option offensively for Toronto late last year and in his first two seasons, found himself constantly in and out of the rotation, not to mention battling various injuries.
So perhaps Andrea is one year behind the curve then.
Perhaps this indeed is the year he makes good on the Nowitzki comparisons and maybe even surpasses his German doppelganger.
The opportunity is certainly there. However he'll need to seize it from day one of training camp; another late-season surge won't do if this club has playoff aspirations.
Luckily, Andrea will have lots of help in sharpening his teeth in practice. No longer will he be be matched up with the likes of Patrick O'Bryant and Kris Humphries each day as players like Rasho Nesterovic, Amir Johnson and Reggie Evans promise to offer Bargs a variety of interesting match-ups outside of game play. Fans saw giant strides in Andrea's one-on-one defense by the end of last year however he's still got lots of work to do on things like rebounding in traffic and help-side defense.
In fact it's Bargs' paltry rebounding numbers considering his size and position on the court that probably bring him the most heat. Basketball analysts bemoan his terrible boardwork and while as mentioned, he did show signs of life in this area, there's no question that he needs to take another step this year. While an improved offensive skill-set would be a big boost for the Raptors, an Andrea Bargnani who grabs at least seven or eight rebounds a game would be an even bigger asset. With a starting line-up that appears to have "rebounding issues" written all over it, Bargs needs to at least be able to help Chris Bosh hold down the fort in this capacity. If not, then Raptors' fans may find themselves pulling out their collective hair as opponents get second-chance opportunities time and time again.
In my books, Andrea really is the ultimate X Factor going into the season and Toronto's playoff fate this season may very well rest in his hands.
Should he increase his offensive prowess without doing so at his teammates' expense, this would make the Raptors a very tough team to defend.
And should he help the team get stops, and focus more on team rebounding and defence, then this adds a whole new dimension to the Raptors that many, myself included, do not expect.
As mentioned, this could indeed be the difference in the end between making the playoffs and watching from the sidelines. Again, the ability is there, we've seen it on numerous occasions over his career so far.
However this is the season where Raptors' fans need to see it shine through for good.
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Chemistry
Now we have all seen just about every minute that Andrea been on the court. Am I the only one not convinced that Bosh and Bargnani can play together?
Its definately the last chance for these two to succeed together. If we don’t see better chemistry between the two, one of them won’t be around much longer.
by Tinmann on Sep 11, 2009 10:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chemistry
Does a PF/C duo of Andrea and Chris that averaged 40+pts and 16+ rbs, 2.5 blks, lead you to think they are not compatible as a starting PF and C in Andreas first experience as a starting center full time??
by Johnn19 on Sep 11, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is the teams winning % with both starting?
Listen, I really hope that they show me this season that they complement each other well, but fact is there have only been brief moments, few and far in between, where I would say they worked well together over the last three seasons.
To me, that is an obvious fact.
by Tinmann on Sep 11, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to agree with Tinman here and this was something I worried about when Bargs was drafted. I just don’t know if the Bosh-Bargs combo can work long-term. The team doesn’t defend the paint well or rebound the ball effectively with that combo compared to other clubs. Yes both can score – but the winning percentage with the two together isn’t anything to write home about.
I actually think a better fit for the Raps would be to pair Bargs would be a low-post bull and scorer like Boozer or Millsap. That being said, I DO want them to show this season that they can be successful as a tandem – and really, one could argue that this will be the first opportunity for them to show they can do it for a prolonged period of time.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Sep 11, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Summer performances
I am not sure this was posted. After the first game against France, the french interviewer actually asked him about his level of play. He said bluntly that he was not in game shape as there was no way of combining the regimen and the training he had agreed upon with the Raptors with the need of being in game shape in July for the Italian team. Summarizing he said something along the lines of: I am here, I am going to play in a professional manner putting my best effort, but I am not really (physically) ready to play.
Just for completeness of information, that anybody of course should have a look a the tapes and judge for himself.
by renato on Sep 11, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Renato – great to have another take.
However isn’t this also a bit worrisome? I can understand the Raptors wanting him to work on things like low post moves and his overall strength etc, but is he that out of game shape with only a few weeks before camp?
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Sep 11, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Franchise, the first game with France was at the beginning of July (the second was on the 14th of July), two months away from camp, I guess one can be glad to know he was working hard for the NBA season during that time. At the same time I remember an interview with Maurizio Gherardini for NBA TV where he was suggesting Andrea would have to get stronger without getting bulkier and an interview with Andrea himself telling that his goal for the summer was to loose fat mass, which means either slimming down or to change the proportion fat/muscles. Anyway, the point is, if he is following a regimen agreed upon with the Raptors, it should be up to the trainers making sure he is in shape for the camp,for me I am glad to see he is indeed working. That said, if he knows he will be not in shape to play in July, I wonder why doing it in the first place? I guess he is pulled in every direction
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by renato on Sep 12, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sounds about right to me too. It’s a process, so if he’s in the middle of it, it’d be understandable for him to be not in the best condition.
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious
by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Sep 12, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who Do You Keep?
Lets say we win 43 games with the talent we have. Somewhere between 6th and 8th in the East. What do you do in BC’s place? Are you satisfied? Do you think that 43 wins would show enough promise to either a) entice Bosh to stay or b) make the Raptors want to part ways with him?
These really are the dog days of Bball season.
by Tinmann on Sep 11, 2009 6:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why is keeping Bosh over Bargnani even an option? I realise that right now Bosh is the better player but I think most of us now admit he is not a franchise player and that he isn’t worth max money so I think keeping him and shipping Bargnani out is pointless. Bargani would have to regress massively for me to even consider that option as I too believe Bargnani would be better off paired with a bull at center/pf over the jump shooting Bosh.
by McGateway on Sep 12, 2009 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be great to move bargs over to power as well. He’s said that is his preferred spot and makes sense for his game too.
by axl t on Sep 12, 2009 10:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
funny
Fans that say they should keep Barg’s over Bosh are clueless.
What are you basing it on? Potential?
Potential is as potential does. I’ll take the 25 multiple all-star olympian that averages a double double and improves his game every year, but good luck on that Mago kid! lol
by Sleepz on Sep 12, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you think he’s worth a max contract then? Because that’s what we’re really talking about here. He can’t be retained for less than a max.
Besides that, how proven was bosh when he got his original max?
by axl t on Sep 12, 2009 4:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Yes I certainly do and I have a feeling the gm thinks the exact same thing as well.
I don’t expect him to be retained for less.
Bosh wasn’t proven when he got his first max contract but he certainly was a better player than Bargniani when he got it, justified it, and will still be a better player than Barg’s when it’s all said and done.
I’m not concerned with trying to get bargain money for top players or finding ways to justify salaries. I’m concerned with keeping your best players and retaining someone who is a top player in this league and has just as much potential as ‘Mago’ to get better.
by Sleepz on Sep 12, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If this season is successfull and the promise is there, than ya, go ahead and give Bosh his money. But if we hover around the 500 level, with talent we have, BC won’t give Bosh the max deal. Won’t! Why would he, his paln is not working.
Ideally I’m hoping for a hugely successfull season and Bosh gets his cash and we field a competitive team for years. But if we don’t, look for a sign and trade involving CB4.
by Tinmann on Sep 12, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um, dude bargnani didn’t get a max contract…
And I don’t get why we’re ‘clueless’ to think that bargnani can’t man the pf well enough while the raptors spend their money max money elsewhere. Bosh is great but he’s a second fiddle on a championship team.
by axl t on Sep 13, 2009 2:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I couldn’t put it better myself. The reality is that we are not saying keep Bargeman over Bosh we are saying in the context of whether they fit together and what this team needs going forward vs the cost benefit analysis you trade Bosh irregardless of whether you have Bargeman on the roster or not. The fact that I think we can all agree that with a standard NBA style center playing next to him Bargeman would put up more than adequate numbers to replace anything we lose when Bosh is traded.
P.S. I know Bargeman is not Bargnani’s name but that is one of the options in the spell check (hint to HQ, add his name to the dictionary).
by McGateway on Sep 14, 2009 6:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
$$$$$$
I would take my chances with Bargs for 1/2 the price and pick up 2 ten million dollar players to help replace Bosh if and or when he leaves……
by d279 on Sep 13, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts are similar.
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious
by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Sep 14, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree 100%
If this season is not a success, I would keep Bargnani over Bosh(barring a relapse by AB)
But the season needs to play out first.,
by Tinmann on Sep 12, 2009 9:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs














