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There are a lot of positive vibes right now about this team and the potential season ahead. Although Howland likes some of the moves made this off-season he still thinks there are two glaring holes which will inevitably be the downfall of this team.

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Heading into the 2009/2010 season the Raptors roster will look very different from the one that finished-up the 2008/2009 campaign. Not only will there be two new starters in the line-up but the bench has been completely revamped. There will be at least 6 new faces on this year’s squad. 

It’s been a major overhaul. It started with the Jason Kapono trade and the changes keep on coming, the latest move being the acquisition of Marco Belinelli. There has been a lot of money spent and many a deal made.

The result?

At first glance it’s hard not to believe that great things will happen for this team. For starters, this years Raptors squad looks like an offensive juggernaut. Based on last years stats, four of the sure fire starters (Bosh, Bargnani, Calderon and Hedo) averaged a combined 68 points per game. Whether it is Wright, DeRozan or Belinelli at the starting at the two, opposing teams have to be concerned with what is shaping up to be a very talented starting five – at least on the offensive end. You would be hard pressed not to believe this team wins more games than last year on the quality of the starters alone.

There is also firepower coming off of the bench. Jack, likely to be the first guy off the pine, has the ability to score the rock from all over the floor and should Wright start, both Belinelli and DeRozan look to have the ability to score. Let’s just say I am not concerned about this team from an offensive output standpoint.

Of course scoring the basketball has not really been a concern for the Raps over the past few seasons. Last years Raps, despite being led by an injured PG for most of the season still finished in the middle of the pack when it came to points per game (99.03). Over the course of the year Toronto averaged more points per game than Houton, Miami, Atlanta, Philadelphia, San Antonio, New Orleans and Detroit, all 2008/09 playoff teams.

The major needs heading into the offseason, as identified by BC himself were threefold – a player who can both create offensively, a solid defender to help protect Jose at the 2, and a rebounder. The other obvious issue heading into the off-season was that this team was soft.

At first glance, it looks like BC has done a tremendous job addressing these things.

A player who can create? Signing Hedo. Check!

A solid defender to help protect Jose at the 2? Acquiring both Jack and Wright. Check!

A Rebounder? Acquiring Evans. Check!

Getting tougher? Acquiring Evans, Wright and Jack. Check!

Looks like a Grand Slam. BC should be lauded for his off-season activity. I don’t doubt that this team is going to be better than last years squad, but I am worried that fans, once again, are going to be disappointed with the outcome of this upcoming season.

Why?

Defense and Rebounding. Let’s take a look.

REBOUNDING
Despite having added Evans and bringing back Rasho, this Raps team, in particular the starters, look to be a very weak rebounding unit. Rather than lay out the gruesome details myself I will point you in Raptorblog’s direction where Scott Carefoot did a bang-up job looking at the rebounding woes of Toronto’s front court. Based on his analysis (which will have changed somewhat since the time of publication with certain player movement) Toronto will be starting the worst rebounding front-court in the Eastern Conference. The most poignant part of the article is as follows:

 

"Just how important is rebounding in the grand scheme of things? Well, the top five teams in rebound differential last season were Portland, Boston, Cleveland, Houston and the Lakers (average wins:60). The bottom five were Miami, New York, the Clippers, Sacramento and Golden State (average wins: 28). So, yeah, I'd say it's pretty important."

This is one area where the changing of the guard at the SF position will really be felt. The impact of replacing Marion with Turk will be felt more on the glass than perhaps anywhere else. Marion is a fantastic rebounder. Even in his short stint with the Raps he was nabbing more than 8 boards a game. By way of comparison, Turk’s best season from a rebounding perspective doesn’t even come close to matching Marion’s rookie season numbers. This is a big drop-off and one the team can ill afford given last season it was in the bottom third of the league in terms of rebounds per game.

Furthermore, I don’t think Evans and Rasho are going to make that significant of a difference. Evans, although he has great rebounding numbers over 48 minutes will never play close to 48 minutes, or at least he shouldn’t given his limitations in other areas of his game. Rasho has never been a great rebounder either. Three seasons ago as the Raptors starting centre, he only managed 4.5 boards a game. Last year in Indiana he managed only 3.4 in about the same number of minutes I expect him to get this coming season (15-18 mins).

To put it bluntly, this team is going to continue to struggle when it comes to rebounding the ball. The only way this changes is if Bargnani spends more time in the paint and uses his massive frame to increase his production in this area. Another season averaging 5.3 boards a game just is not going to cut it. To put that number in perspective, there were 87 guys in the league who averaged more rebounds a game than Bargnani. Players ahead of him? Chris Paul, Jason Kidd, Dominic McGuire and Mike Miller are some of the guys who averaged more rebounds a game just to name a few. If he can’t get upwards of 8 rebounds a game this team is going to find itself consistently outrebounded which will lead to more second chance opportunities for the opposition and less opportunity for this team to get out and run.

For those of you who think adding Pops Mensah-Bonsu is the answer it isn’t. I would love to see Pops back but he isn’t going to be the savior here. He can bring energy and hustle but he would likely see limited playing time so his impact would not be significant.

The simple reality is that outrebounding your opponent is key to securing W’s and this problem is only going to be magnified when combined with the next issue…

DEFENSE

Last years Raps squad was pretty atrocious defensively, in particular on the wing. Due to injury Calderon’s best defense was a solid clap of the hands and Parker started to slow and was simply "average". Adding Marion gave the team a good boost but on a whole opposing teams had little problem getting into the paint to create opportunities. The Raps were generally in the bottom third of the league in all major defensive categories.

BC has clearly tried to address this glaring weakness by securing the services of Jarrett Jack and Antoine Wright. Although I am not sure why reader’s need to know whether Antoine Wright likes smooth or crunchy peanut butter, or knows whether Texas is bigger than Canada, this interview gives you a good idea of what sort of defensive player the Raps have in Wright.

Even with these two additions and a healthy Calderon will the Raps be that much better defensively on the perimeter? Well the loss of Marion doesn’t help. For all of Hedo’s offensive talent he will never come close to being Shawn Marion when it comes to defense. Marion is extremely active on the defensive end and a tough match-up for even the best offensive players.

Some people have suggested that Iavaroni will be the answer for the Raps on the defensive end. I believe that having a defensive minded coach is an asset but we have argued time and time again that a defensive system is only worth the effort the players put into it. As fans we have been witness to some pretty weak defensive efforts. Iavaroni is a great hire but lets not forget his resume includes senior coaching positions on the Suns and the Grizzlies who were not exactly known for their defense during his tenure. He is not a miracle worker.

Now I do think this years Raptors squad has some better one-on-one defenders, in particular in the backcourt. The major problem I see is the lack of a shot blocking presence. Statistically the Raps best shot blocker is Bargnani who last season ranked 31st in the league. I think it is fair to say that 90% of his blocks were in one-on-one situations and very few were as a result of him helping defensively. Jermaine O’Neal may not have brought much but he was a presence on the defensive end and was willing to challenge opponents heading to the rim. The Raps clearly don’t have that sort of player and opposing teams will be able to expose this lack of "presence" in the paint. The core of the Raps defense continues to be soft and ready to be exposed.

Now this is not meant to be a downer article. I am excited for this team to start playing and I think it will be involved in some high scoring and exciting affairs. They will definitely be more enjoyable to watch than last season. However, this team will be measured by how it does come playoff time and it would be to our own detriment to forget the famous and undeniably true adage that Defense Wins Championships. This Raptors team may be able to get by during the upcoming regular season with less than stellar rebounding and questionable D, but when the games really count and next spring is upon us, these weaknesses will be exposed and it won’t be pretty.

I see problems ahead. I also don’t see how BC is going to solve them with what assets he has left. This season could be fun, but with all the money spent and all the deals made I was sort of hoping for more than that.

I didn’t want to have cause for concern.

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The only place I want to disagree with you here is that Colangelo will not be able to re-tool the roster during the season if our rebounding woes turn out to be as bad as they appear right now.

First off, he got rid of Araujo and Kapono and brought back solid players for both, so I’m sure he can work with what he has to focus on defense if need be.

Second, we have lots of guys with manageable contracts and/or players who are in the last year of their deal (Wright, O’Bryant, Belinelli, Ukic, Nesterovic and Douby.) While this isn’t much in the way of total $$$, I think that their spots on the roster could easily be cleared to bring in a defensive-minded power forward.

Finally, I think we should bring back Pops because he brings an excitement that frankly no one even approaches in our front court (especially Bosh, who lulls his own fans to sleep with that 18-foot jumper).

by Original Aaron on Aug 4, 2009 7:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Hedo' contract

One more thing, folks. I use Hoopshype for their excellent salary data . . . but they STILL don’t have the exact breakdown of Turkoglu’s contract year-by-year. Has anyone heard the official numbers?

by Original Aaron on Aug 4, 2009 7:20 AM EDT reply actions  

ShamSports is better

$9,000,000 $9,800,000 $10,600,000 $11,400,000 $12,000,000

http://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/raptors.jsp

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by Norsktroll on Aug 4, 2009 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

My worry is that the guys who have contracts that are expiring are fairly small potatoes in the grand scheme of things. With the cap expected to drop etc, that doesn’t leave much loot at all to address defensive upgrades. So really, the line-up that exists going into this next season is all she wrote for a bit barring a Bosh trade…

by Adam Francis on Aug 4, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Defense wins championships, but offense gets you more wins

I agree with everything that has been said. The raps will be great offensively. Will they be as good as the run’n’gun suns of a few years ago, not likely, and even they didnt win a championship (people may argue that they ’should have / could have / would have). Will they be top 5 in the league? (perhaps). Both the first and second unit will be tough to stop, and if the substitutions are done correctly, there will always be a bonafide scorer on the team.

Bottom line, Colangalo is putting out a winning lineup. It will apease fans: fun to watch, more W’s, playoffs (maybe out of the first round). We will win more. But will we win it all? Colangalo must know that we won’t…

Defense wins championships.

by solarscott on Aug 4, 2009 7:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Win it all?

It is unlikely they win it all, but, also given where this team come out from (since it’s inception) wouldn’t you be happy enough if you had a team who could step on the floor with a concrete chance to win against anybody? This team could turn out to be just that good. MInd you, every year there is just one winner, does that make everybody else a looser?

by renato on Aug 4, 2009 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hate to disappoint you, but having watched Jack and Wright closely I have to say neither is a good defender

And both are streaky offensively. Jack tends to step on the three point line, or worse out of bounds or dribbling into traffic creating turnovers. Wright has some games where he makes his shots, but more where he doesn’t (hence his pretty low PER and other ratings like Win Share or Wins Produced).

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by Norsktroll on Aug 4, 2009 7:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Defenders

They may not be great defenders but they should be an upgrade from last year.

Dave "Howland" Randell
Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com

by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Aug 4, 2009 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wright may be an upgrade defensively, but he is a downgrade at just about everything else.

by bigweeze on Aug 4, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great Article

I guess we’ll just have to wait and see how this plays out in the regular season. Not sure why we’re thinking championship after having a 33 win season.

by N C on Aug 4, 2009 8:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Championships

I have no expectation that this team makes a finals…let alone the second round. I see a team that will succeed in the regular season and falter in the second season for the reasons pointed out below.

Dave "Howland" Randell
Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com

by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Aug 4, 2009 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't really get that from the article ...

… so all good. More from the comments.

We took a huge step in the team build this off-season. Looking at the changes below we should all be dancing in the streets from now until the beginning of the season. After that we can let the on court work be the judge.

Starting lineup Last year
C Bargnani O’Neal/Bargnani
PF Bosh Bosh/Marion
SF Turkoglu Marion/Bargnani/Moon
SG DeRozan Parker/Kapono
PG Calderon Calderon/Ukic/Soloman

Second lineup

C Nesterovic Bargnani
PF Evans Hump/Graham
SF Wright Graham/Moon
SG Belinelli Kapono
PG Jack Soloman/Ukic

Extras

Ukic Jawai
Douby Adams
O’Bryant Banks
Banks
Bonsu (possibly)

by N C on Aug 4, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know I’m in the vast minority here but I still think this club would have been better off with Marion for less money over a smaller period of time than Hedo and his contract. We’ll see how things play out but I just felt that Marion at least provided a huge rebounding presence at the 3, to offset Bargs at the 5.

by Adam Francis on Aug 4, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re Marion

I agree, based on how the offense worked with him in the last 20 odd games, he looked like a great fit. Unfortunately he did not want to play in TO for what BC was offering, hence the shift to the Turk, and another style to come.

by Johnn19 on Aug 4, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed, but...

I like Marion over hedo but still think we should have gone for artest, odom , ariza maybe.

by axl t on Aug 4, 2009 11:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Agreed

They guy just wanted too much money I suppose. I think Hedo will be great though as well. And I love what came out of that transaction.

by N C on Aug 6, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the lack of rebounding and help defense on this team points once again to why Bosh is not worth a max deal. The fact that Bargnani has more blocks per game then Bosh is actually a little worrying. I said it about a month ago but Bosh needs to bring more than his current 20\10 to warrant max dollars (something like 3 more points and/or 3 more rebounds and/or 1 more block and/or 2 more assists and/or any more steals).

by McGateway on Aug 4, 2009 8:25 AM EDT reply actions  

There really aren’t too many players who are worth over 15 mil per year. And the other problem is that a player is more likely to underperform that type of deal than outperform it.

by bigweeze on Aug 4, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

And here’s where I think the Raptors may have to look in the middle of the season. If the Raptors are going to address their rebounding woes, there’s really only one place from where they can do so, and that’s at Bosh’s position. Or more importantly, Bosh’s contract. With everyone recently locked up right now, the only starter that the Raptors can look at to trade to get much stronger in rebounding is at the PF position. If he doesn’t improve his stats in those areas or change his playing style slightly, the Raptors could become that team that does well in the regular season, but always falters come playoff time. And with everyone locked up in long term deals, the Raptors don’t really have the luxury of movement to address their issues.

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com

by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Aug 4, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree too

But hey maybe with more offense around him, maybe bosh can be that ultimate hustle guy. A la the olympics.

by axl t on Aug 4, 2009 11:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well said – in complete agreement.

by Adam Francis on Aug 4, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great Article

That was one of the better articles I’ve read around here in a while. I pretty much agree with everything said. I think Wright and Jack could potentially solve our weak parameter defence but our rebounding and interior defence remains a problem.

by Member29 on Aug 4, 2009 8:32 AM EDT reply actions  

I think to protect the lane, our weak interior defense, and our lack of rebounding, Iavaroni should put a defense in place where we pretty much give up the outside shots but we protect the paint. Sure some teams will make it rain 3’s on us but when shots don’t fall we can go on serious runs and win games. And the best part is we atleast try to cover our weaknesses….

by Clickulate.com on Aug 4, 2009 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also depends on if our jump shots are falling.

by bigweeze on Aug 4, 2009 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

re interior defense

Where were you last year, that was the type of defensive strategy Triano went to when he came in as the coach ?

by Johnn19 on Aug 4, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really enjoyed your article, but I definitely don’t feel as negative about our chances this year as you do.

First, I’m sure Hedo’s rebounding numbers weren’t as high because of the space that Dwight takes up in the paint. I also don’t think its fair to compare Marion’s rookie numbers with Turk’s best season. Shawn isn’t the player he once was. I also believe that Jay with the help of Marc will establish a team identity this offseason. I believe there is a reason that Nash refused to play for Team Canada after Jay was fired, and why Team USA hired him to coach the select team. In addish, I believe Hedo brings much more to the table than a declining Matrix. His rebounding will be missed, but here’s hoping that the excitement of this revamped roster and a full training camp will help improve the team’s defensive basketball IQ.

Let’s not forget that last year, we had MANY glaring holes in our roster. MOST of these issues have been addressed.

“I see problems ahead. I also don’t see how BC is going to solve them with what assets he has left. This season could be fun, but with all the money spent and all the deals made I was sort of hoping for more than that.”

I am kind of stunned that you were actually hoping for more from BC, especially considering all of the moves he managed to miraculously pull off this offseason. In late June I thought that the best we could do was re-up Marion and possibly sign Kleiza and Delfino. This roster trumps those moves by a long shot! Again, love your insight Howland and thanks for the great article!

by Assistant GM on Aug 4, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Does Balanced Offense = Better Defense?

Hypothetically, Chris Bosh will not be asked to carry a full offensive load with the addition of Turkoglu and the continued emergence of Bargnani. If they don’t tire themselves out on the offensive end - and anyone whose watched games can’t deny that Bosh exerts a lot of energy to get his points-shouldn’t that bode well for them being able to execute the defensive game plan better.

Before Garnett, the Celtics weren’t a great defensive team, and After Billups, Detroit fell off. On many levels it comes down to one key player being the defensive captain of the squad, (Garnett, Billups, Duncan) so the question would be, who on this team has the wherewithal to be that.

Again, I think it comes down to Bosh, but he has to make concessions in his game to pull it off consistently. He can still be the focal point of the team without scoring the most points.

Also, about rebounding, one cannot undervalue the effective box out that both Rasho and Bargs display. It will be interesting to see how this impacts the wing rebound numbers.

by HQ Interloper on Aug 4, 2009 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

The problem with Bosh

The problem with Chris Bosh is that, offensively, he’s similar to Kevin Garnett in a lot of ways. So a lot of fans expect that he’s just going to turn into Garnett (or Garnett Lite) on the defensive end. Unfortunately, that’s never going to happen.

Bosh is never going to anchor the one of the top defences in the NBA. He might play a role on a very good defensive squad — but he’s never going to be the guy that puts a team on his back defensively.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Aug 4, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Few things are more frustrating then getting a defensive stop only to give up an offensive board and the only thing worse than giving up second chance points are giving up third chance points. Hopefully we’ll make so many shots there won’t be any rebounds to get… I don’t know how that relates to defensive rebounding but, I’m sure it’ll work out.

by CalexanderJ on Aug 4, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Team rebound rate is a misleading stat, and not an indicator of winning

For the last year Rap’s team rbs 21st in the NBA @ 40.4 & -1.5 vs opponents per game, looks terrible and they were 13th in conference.

First place in the NBA was Lakers @ the fantastic rate of 43.9 & +2.5 with a Champioship as a result, not really as a result of rebounding.
Second place in the NBA was Indiana @ the equally fantastic rate of 43.7 -0.04 and they finished @ 36-46 & out of the playoffs. Oklahoma City was 6th @ 42.6 & +1.4 and the Knicks were 8th @ 42.1 & fiished 14th @ 32-50.

SO WHAT ???? Rebounds are a stat, nothing more. What is important is the W + L net totals of offense and defense for 48 mins of team effort

Some more stats, Atlanta 23rd, Miami 28th, Philly 17th, Det 16th, all play off teams.
Denver 15th, San Antonio 18th, Portland 13th, New Orleans 26th, Utah 19th all play off teams.

Raptors for 09/10 will have 4 players, 3 starters, who went through training camp last year, leaving 10 who did not, 7 new in the last month who have not even been on the court together. As well they have a new Head coach, and Asst. who will be responsible for team defense (the 1st of his kind ) in TO.

No one should be concerned at this early stage, or can predict how they will as a team rebound ,and or play defense at this early date, based on how these players played in their previous environments, on other teams, with other coaches. It’s a WAIT and SEE how the coaching staff puts together the various talents, and expectations, to WIN.

by Johnn19 on Aug 4, 2009 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

You are looking at total rebounds instead of rebound differential or rebound %.

If a team grabs 43 boards but its opponents grabs 45 per game, that is bad @ 48.86%.
If a team grabs 40 boards but its opponents only grab 38, that is good @ 51.28%.

Total scoring = efficiency x opportunity. If you want to score more points, you either score more efficiently or get more opportunities (rebound).

Efficiency (Pts/100): POR 113.9, TOR 107.0 (22), LAC 102.3

Basketball is a game of slight edges played out over and over (typically 85-95 times per game). The best team is only 11.34% better than the worst team at scoring per possession which is quite small. Note that each possession a team uses is worth slightly more than one point.

Opportunity (O.Reb, D.Reb):
O. Reb: POR 32.6%, TOR 24.0% (29), SAS 22.1%
D. Reb: SAS 78.0%, TOR 73.7% (14), GSW 68.1%

The Raptors are nearly the worst team at rebounding offensively, save the Spurs. But the Spurs rank first in defensive rebounding.

The Raptors’ point differential was only -2.8 pts per game last year (16 games under .500). Every extra possession you can gain over the opponent (through rebounding) is worth a little more than 1 point. Taking 1.5 more boards per game that instead went to the opposition would have turned us into what is essentially a .500 team (8 more wins).

That is one part of why, as Howland points out, that the teams with high rebound differential win much more often (avg 60) than the teams with the worst rebound differential (avg 28).

by bigweeze on Aug 5, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great article. I share your concerns. The Raps really should be an offensive juggernaut if healthy, but the biggest question going into the season has to be how Triano will hide their defensive weaknesses. The second biggest question is if Andrea can improve his rebounding. I’m not so confident about that one, unfortunately…

by Vittorio De Zen on Aug 5, 2009 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

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