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If this deal goes through it’s yet another role player off the bench. Caroll will be able to help with some of the 3pt shooting we lost with the departure of Kapono and Parker. That is, if he ever gets off the bench.

Can’t wait for the season to start. Everything is new again!

Carrol is a younger Kapono at a cheaper price, I like this deal!

Banks was going to do nothing this year. Carrol gives you a shooter off the bench when your offence needs a little kick, or in those late game situations where you spread the floor put the ball in Calderon or Turks hands and sit Bargs and Carrol on the outside.

The deal is longer than banks’ yes but if you look at the deal it is a declining value deal for a good 3 ball shooter trying to make something out of nothing. If not I think he is just as tradeable as Banks was at the deadline for a team looking for a shooter.

This does create a glut of 2 guards though. Derozan, Belenelli, Douby, Weems, Carrol, Wright even Jack.

I suspect another deal or maybe Weems or Douby get included in this deal. We know the Mavs had interest in Douby before, and Mark Cuban saw Douby put on a decent performance in Vegas. That would free up a roster spot for that 15th man at the 3.

We still need a legit SF, probably just pure D, like an Ime Udoka.
Douby or (probably) Weems have to go to make this happen.
Carroll is the first ever Fightin’ Irish in franchise history. Time for me to buy a jersey!
Bryan Colangelo is officially a freakin’ genius, just for getting rid of Banks!

If Dallas (notorious overspenders) are trying to cut their losses by acquiring Marcus Banks of all people, this should make everyone here worry.

Trading bad contracts for marginally more useful players with longer bad contracts DOES NOT WORK. This is a textbook Isiah Thomas deal on about 1/4 of the scale.

If Carroll goes in the tank (and I am talking about a shooter who averaged 3.0 ppg last year and couldn’t even stick on the Bobcats), we have f’d ourselves for 2 extra years and over 7 million of dead salary. We could find out that we don’t want Carroll around as soon as this year’s training camp (most likely within a year). The risk isn’t worth it for a guy who will play 15 minutes a game tops. Carroll is better than Banks, but so are alot of players that I wouldn’t want to pay for.

Alternate solution – Sign Luke Jackson (I think he’s still free) and waive Banks for his roster spot save the long-term commitment.

Unfortunately, noone has ever accused Colangelo of being patient – he is clearly a short-term thinker. There are times you just have to limit your downside by letting bad contracts expire. If this deal goes down, in two more years, odds are EXTREMELY HIGH that we will be looking to trade Matt Carroll for the next Matt Carroll. Or at least resigned to having a highly paid cheerleader.

The more I look at his stat lines the more confused I am as to whether he will be an asset or another complete waste of space. His 3 % is decent (40%) but his FG % is almost exactly the same (41.7%), not exactly stellar (of course this could be because he takes a higher percentage of 3s). His number previous to last year were at least acceptable for a guy making 4 mil per year and here is the scouting report from Hollinger (albeit from last season):

“Carroll is a subpar defender, even though he often gets to the right spots, as he doesn’t have the hops or quickness to stop players 1-on-1. Despite this, the Bobcats often used him as their wing “stopper,” which stands more as a damnation of Jason Richardson’s D than any reflection on Carroll’s ability.

Though his push-shot jumper is his bread-and-butter, Carroll is a good ball handler with a decent first step and will isolate 1-on-1 if he gets a big man on a switch. He has a knack for drawing fouls on his drives to the rim, though the frequency waned last season, and is an 84.9% career foul shooter. He’s been durable, too. "

The parts I find intriguing are the good ball handler and the fact he can draw fouls, something that can only be a boon. Last season he was a disgrace though and those are the numbers you have to look at the most as they were most recent and as far as we know he didn’t have an injury that might have contributed to his crappy numbers. If we get the Carroll from his middle years he can be useful, if not then why bother making this trade as he is essentially the same as Banks.

One further concern, with the collective bargaining agreement coming up, why take on the additional 2 years when we have no idea what will happen going forward with player contracts? Banks’ contract comes off at the right time while Carroll’s goes through the CBA time and as we all know, contracts are usually grandfathered so it is not like there is a possibility of changing it after the CBA.

In any initial trade report, there is a a significant chance that its missing some key information. My guess is that if a deal has multiple parts, the “source” will only mention the confirmed principles involved, and not the parts that are still being quibbled over.

On its face, I wouldn’t make that deal, agreeing with the reasons laid out by others opposed. Part of BC’s reasoning seems to be the money saved off of 2010 payroll, via the difference between Banks and Carroll’s salaries (~500,000). Add that to the ~1.5 million saved via trading Ukic, and the savings from having both Antoine Wright and Amir Johnson on expiring contracts. The resulting space could then be applied to absorb salary increases to existing players, of which Bosh is one, while steering clear of the luxury tax.

We were in good shape to have a decent chunk of salary come off the books in 2011 (Banks + Evans). Not a huge amount, but enough to easily fit in a MLE signing.. It seems we all agree that Carroll would be far down the depth chart, to the point that his salary would be completely out of proportion to his role on the team. I would rather see any injury minutes go to Weems and Douby.

If this deal goes through, there has to be some kind of sweetener for the Raptors. The Mavericks have a HUGE amount of money coming off their cap in the summer of 2011, assuming that Disco Dirk exercises his player option for 2010. Acquiring Banks gives them an extra 3.9 million under the 2011 cap to play around with. Acquiring Carroll gives the Raptors 3.9 million less to use is 2011, when Bellineli will be a restricted free agent. To be fair, Carroll expires in the pivotal 2013 offseason. Calderon and Jack will both come off the cap. DeRozan will be a restricted free agent, having HOPEFULLY earned himself a big contract extension.

Keep in mind that like Kapono, and Kyle Korver before him, there is a niche market for a player of Carroll’s ilk. Saying that in two years he will be just as tradable as Marcus Banks is now, isn’t saying very much at all. What sort of price should BC exact from Dallas?