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PrintLakers, Spurs have helped themselves in NBA offseason | SI.com
4. Which offseason move is destined to disappoint?
Jack McCallum: I'll say Turkoglu in Toronto. I like Hedo and think he'll have a productive season, but it won't lift the Raptors into the top four in the East, which was the general idea after last season's disappointing 33-49 campaign.
Parker leaves Raptors for Cavs | TheStar.com
The Cleveland Cavaliers have officially signed free-agent Anthony Parker, formerly of the Raptors, to a two-year deal worth about $6 million.
'Efficient' Anthony Parker eager to fill any need for championship-starved Cleveland Cavaliers | Cleveland.com
They had to wait a few years -- but the Cleveland Cavaliers finally get their man.
BONUS LINK:
Eddy Curry fails to impress Knicks brass, forgets his sneakers in Vegas
Disinterested? Eddy Curry? C'mon now!
UPDATE:
Who may be moving up the NBA food chain? | FOX Sports on MSN
The Toronto Raptors! At least they're one of the teams moving up the NBA food chain, according to FOX Sports.
UPDATE II:
NBA free agents: The latest chatter on Allen Iverson, Lamar Odom | ESPN
Marc Stein's latest includes a handful of bookkeeping notes from the free-agent contracts that have been formally signed over the past week:
• Hedo Turkoglu's five-year, $52.8 million contract with Toronto includes a trade kicker and the right to opt out and return to free agency in the summer of 2013.
• Andrea Bargnani's five-year extension in Toronto starting in 2010-11 is worth an even $50 million. The deal includes an early termination option to return to free agency in the summer of 2014 as well as a trade kicker and incentives.
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Eddy Curry
can TOTALLY dunk in flip-flops. He was just trying to show off…
Posting and Toasting: "Say yo Oak, what's the dish tonight? A couple steaks on the grill and we season it right."
Good luck to Parker. Always liked him during his time here.
I think he’ll be a good fit for the Cavs plus it gives them some size at the guard position.
by Hungry Leafs Fan on Jul 14, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions
Hey guys
glad to see SBN finally got a Raps blog.
on the subject of AP, I really don’t think he’s going to play such a substantial role – I love him, he was one of my favourite Raps, but he’s 34, clearly lost some effectiveness last year, and happens to be sort-of backing up LeBron… seems to me a bigger deal than necessary is being made of this signing (by Toronto fans, since I have no idea about Cleveland fans)
Prehistoric Hoops - a neat little Raps blog
(sorry to double-post)
But I think that this time is actually pretty well-built to win some games in the regular season and playoffs. We saw Phoenix and Dallas win a ton of games with depth but falter in the playoffs, but our starters are pretty deadly, especially on offense, and the addition of Jack really helps our depth. Versatile guys (all our bigs, Wright, DeRozan, Jack) will make it easier to withstand an injury than it seems… I really think this team can be a toip-4 team, though admittedly a pretty large number of things need to go right.
Prehistoric Hoops - a neat little Raps blog
Top four I think it is a stretch ...
at least the 8th spot which puts us back where Brian had us 2 years ago … Hopefully we can add and grow after this year as oppose to starting over with every coming year …
"even though I was born in Toronto Canada and I love the BlueJays and the Raptors and the Leafs .. I cut my finger this morning and I was BLEEDING KC RED BABY!!!"
by T-DotChiefFanSince93 on Jul 14, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I think if the Raptors are 8th in the East, we’ll consider this a bad season. That’s just about the bare minimum that’s acceptable, especially with the kind of make over we’ve had over the summer.
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jul 14, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
if the Raptors finish 8th ....
THIS fan will be very happy. I think we have to be realistic. Were we tired of the first round exits two years ago? YUP … but that was then … I think after last season we saw how fortunate we were, as basketball ended a lil early for rap fans. True changes were made and with change comes expectations (sometimes lofty) but we need to give time for adjustment. If the boys can get it all together and make that 8th spot, I would hardly consider it a “bad season”. I think if we grab that spot this season and make it there again the following year and get bounced, THEN we have a valid beef. New coach, new squad, bottom of the league last year … the 8th spot is a victory THIS year.
"even though I was born in Toronto Canada and I love the BlueJays and the Raptors and the Leafs .. I cut my finger this morning and I was BLEEDING KC RED BABY!!!"
by T-DotChiefFanSince93 on Jul 14, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I would consider it a bad season simply for the fact that the Raptors have just tied up so much money and have largely gotten the players they wanted. Colangelo is definitely not designing this team to be a bottom-of-the-playoff barrel team, so I believe we should set our expectations appropriately.
My own belief is that this team is better constructed than last year’s team, and while there are some questionable contracts within, it’s been a much more effective usage of the Raptors’ payroll. No, we shouldn’t expect the moon, but this team should not simply be a few games better than last year.
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jul 15, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough ...
I win both ways and I hope what you think DOES happen. GREAT site by the way. I have already passed it on to a BUNCH of my boyz. Look forward to many more intelligent debates! Keep up the good work and keep the posts comin (helps the work day go by!)
"even though I was born in Toronto Canada and I love the BlueJays and the Raptors and the Leafs .. I cut my finger this morning and I was BLEEDING KC RED BABY!!!"
by T-DotChiefFanSince93 on Jul 15, 2009 8:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This is the Raptors squad that will be around in 2-4 years. The future rides on DD, whether he can become a dynamic, well-rounded wing player or not.
Calderon, Turkoglu, Bargnani, Jack will take up approximately 35 million per season. Perhaps Bosh will be replaced by a Carlos Boozer type in 2010. In any event, Jose, Hedo and Andrea are all – limited defensive players who rebound poorly. Though talented offensively (though their effectiveness is debatable) that is quite a bad sign from your core players.
And hopefully ...
we can add Rasho and Delfino to that mix …
"even though I was born in Toronto Canada and I love the BlueJays and the Raptors and the Leafs .. I cut my finger this morning and I was BLEEDING KC RED BABY!!!"
by T-DotChiefFanSince93 on Jul 14, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to disagree with McCallum
I like Hedo and think he’ll have a productive season, but it won’t lift the Raptors into the top four in the East, which was the general idea after last season’s disappointing 33-49 campaign.
There was no one free agent this year that could have lifted Toronto from the lottery to top four in the East. Bos, Cle, and Orl have the top 3 spots locked down (although it will be interesting to see if Orl slips now that they have a target on their backs), so Hedo pushing the Raps into the top four isn’t a realistic expectation.
On the other hand, I’m pretty sure the brass (not to mention the fans) are hoping to see the second round of the playoffs which I guess would require either an upset or a top four finish. One and done is getting old.
I actually think
that ORL and BOS will be significantly worse (go ahead, call me a homer) than last year. BOS is basically competing with the Raps for “best dinosaur team” and I just can’t grasp the idea that Orlando losing probably the centrepiece of their offense (in my opinion), their best perimeter defender and a pretty important backup big, while adding a player with a lot of issues (as we all know), will be better than last year as it seems that people are saying. I’m curious to see how Washington does, though.
Prehistoric Hoops - a neat little Raps blog
My first reaction was to disagree with you, but as I sat down and thought about it, I think I’ve turned around to your opinion. My only caveat is that Boston relies just so much on Kevin Garnett to drive their engine and that we shouldn’t expect him to be on the sidelines much this year. I’m just still not sure who really “beat” Boston other than KG.
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jul 15, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
that's a good point
but they’re still kind of in “if one of us goes down, we’re screwed” mode, especially with the (potential) loss of Big Baby. They have 8 players over or turning 31 this season: Wallace, Scal, Pierce, House, Shuttlesworth, Garnett, and Moore/Marbury (FAs). All (possible exception of Scal Pal) are rotation players, and that really has to be an injury/age decline concern for anyone. The Raptors have three over or turning 30: George, Turk (turned 30 in March) and Voskuhl (who isn’t coming back.
Of course, the only reason I’m thinking of reasons for the other teams in the East to fail is to build hope for the Raps, but the more I think about it, the more of a real possibility it becomes…
Prehistoric Hoops - a neat little Raps blog
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