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Raptors Outlast Blazers for First Vegas Win

In their best game yet, the Toronto Raptors defeated the Portland Trailblazers in Summer League play moving them to 1 and 2 so far.  Franchise breaks things down on his final day in Vegas...

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Elvis has left the building.

Yes, it's time for me to head back to the T-Dot.

Howland returned on Sunday morning but I wanted to stick around Las Vegas to get a third Summer League game in, and a chance to see some of the other young rookies get their first taste of NBA action so to speak.

That was all accomplished last night as not only did I take in the Raptors' win over the Blazers, but I also got to see a bevy of other future stars, from Blake Griffin to Stephen Curry.

Let's start with the Raptors though shall we?

A 92 to 87 victory gave the Dinos their first win in Las Vegas and frankly, I didn't see this coming.  Toronto didn't play that well in their first two matches, and on paper didn't seem to have the talent to match up against the Blazers.

However this was Portland's first Summer League match and it showed.

The club had 19 turnovers in the match, took some questionable shots, especially in transition, and seemed to be getting used to each other.  Oh, and it doesn't help when your starting shooting guard (Thomas Gardner of Missouri fame), goes 0 for 8.

The Raptors however got some very solid play in the back-court once again from Quincy Douby and DeMar DeRozan who combined for 35 points, 10 rebounds and six assists.  Add in some production from Roko Ukic and Brent Petway and Jerryd Bayless' 22 points and seven assists just wasn't enough for the Blazers.

But beyond the box score, was there anything that really stood out last night for me?

Well for starters, Portland has about four guys on their Summer League roster who look like good bets to make an NBA club next year.  Dante Cunningham, Jeff Pendergraph, Bobby Jones and of course Bayless all played at a very high level and the former three should find niche roles in the league.  I'd love to see Toronto steal away Jones in particular, a hard-nosed gritty player who shared the back-court in college with Brandon Roy.  He wouldn't be a top 7 guy for sure, but he'd be an upgrade off the bench over both George and Banks.  Cunningham and Pendergraph are second-round picks by Portland from the most recent-draft and look to be keeping the Blazers' cupboard stocked with young talent.

The same can't be said about the Raps unfortunately.  Even though they got the W, there's still precious little to be seen from this group outside of DeRozan and Douby, both of whom I expect to be factors in Toronto's top 10 rotation next season.  With Anthony Parker now officially a Cav, the Raptors are going to need to find someone who can step in and provide a solid defensive presence at the 2.

-The O'Bryant experiment should be laid to rest asap.  With his size and length he should be dominating in these settings and he's not even close to doing so.  He's got almost nothing in terms of a low-post game, is a horrific shot-blocker, and is most effective when trailing the play to pull up for long-range jumpers - not exactly what Toronto needs from a back-up big.  Right now he only seems to be taking up a valuable roster spot.

-Roko still shows flashes, but I think everyone is well-served by having him become the third-string point guard off the bench next season.  He's still very tough to stop off the bounce, and has great vision when drawing in defenders on the way to the rim, but his shot doesn't seem to have advanced at all and he still takes unnecessary gambles defensively.  In fact watching him up close in Summer League, it's a little tough to imagine how any of Toronto's brain-trust felt that he was a good option to back-up Jose last year.

-Brent Petway is an incredible athlete...but that's about where things end.  He's provided numerous highlight reel plays, as you can see in the warm-up video below, but the rest of his basketball skills just aren't at the NBA level.  If Toronto is looking for a freak athlete who can occasionally come off the bench for an energy boost, I'd rather they looked at someone like Deron Washington who's currently playing for the Pistons.

Raptors Summer League Warm-Up

-And finally, Smush Parker.  Smush didn't see the light of day in last night's win and with the Jack offer now official, I'd say that puts a nail in his coffin in terms of playing for the Dinos next season.  I'd still say he's an upgrade over Roko, but Ukic obviously has the greater upside so Mr. Parker will probably be plying his trade somewhere else come next fall.

Other than those four, there isn't much else to discuss.  Demetris Nichols, who started last night and who I expected to be one of Toronto's top options, has been essentially invisible, and others like David Doblas (who at one point last night started yelling obscenities at the refs due to his perceived lack of calls) haven't shown they'd even belong in the D League.

That means we'll all have to wait and see where BC turns to fill out the roster.  

Talking with Yahoo Sports' Adrian Wojnarowski last night post-game, it sounds like there's still a good deal of moving and shaking to go on in the league so Colangelo may be best served to wait now for a bit to see who falls through the cracks.

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Hey, look on the bright side — at least the Raptors won’t end up with a half dozen of these clowns taking up space on the roster. The Smushcalade has left the building and is driving out of the parking lot!

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jul 14, 2009 10:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Douby vs Roko

What do you think the odds of Douby passing Roko on the depth chart if Jack is signed? Seems to me it’s a toss up between the 2 for last guard off the bench.

by lessthanzero on Jul 14, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Roko

I doubt the Raps coaching staff has many plans when it comes to Roko and the two spot. He simply just is not a good enough shooter and his biggest strength right now is his dribbling. Douby on the other hand is a scorer with a decent ability to create. I expect Roko to be the 3rd string PG (his contract is guaranteed) and Douby, should he make the team play a back-up two-guard role.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Jul 14, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Douby vs. Roko vs. Banks

It will be interesting to see if the Raptors decide to eat the remaining millions on Marcus Banks’ contract. I mean, I’d rather see the team stocked with useful players 1 through 15 than devoting a roster spot to a guy like Banks. Pushing Roko down to 3rd or 4th on the point guard depth chart — with Jack and Douby ahead of him — probably puts an end to the nosedive that occured at the end of the 1st quarter/beginning of the 2nd quarter last season.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Jul 14, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If Banks plays more than 5 a night...

The Raps are in big trouble because that means Calderon is out for the season, Jack (or whoever if Indy matches) is also gone, and whoever is 3rd (Roko I guess) is now the guy. Banks sitting on the pine for the season “earning” his money doesn’t bother me because the 15th guy on the roster shouldn’t be playing much anyway.

by siggian on Jul 15, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Minutes?

I just meant in terms of minutes… not exactly what position they would come from…

For some reason, based on summer league… I can see Douby being more useful… and thus get more minutes than Roko.

I think both are looking at spot minutes, but Douby’s more versatile, which leads me to think he could get the call over Roko more often than not…

I’m not saying give up on Roko… but I think he still has a way to go… and I think Douby has looked good enough to keep around.

I’m so glad we’re having this discussion as opposed to Roko as back-up… yikes… Summer league is not really helping his stock in that regard. Jack will fill such gaping hole… made more obvious every day.

I hope all the reports are true and the Pacers can’t afford to retain Jack…

by lessthanzero on Jul 14, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i doubt they're going to give up on roko for at least another year

mostly because 6-5 point guards just don’t come around very often. and anyway, Jose couldn’t shoot for beans his rookie season either… check out their per-36 stats, they’re really remarkably similar. Ukic’s and Jose’s

Prehistoric Hoops - a neat little Raps blog

by boo15749 on Jul 14, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only thing is, Jose had that bout with Plantar Faciitis, and Ukic was largely healthy. Calderon also came from a championship team and was considered a winner all his life, while Ukic is still finding his way.

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Jul 15, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Summer League

Smush obviously didn’t impress the Raps although even if he did Jack is still a better option.
OBy should be cut. If I remember correctly, his contract is not fully guaranteed so cutting him would open a roster spot and save some cash.
Bank’s is a different situation. I am not sure how the rules apply to buy-outs but someone mentioned that even if he took a reasonable buy-out (6 mil of the 8 owed) they would have to spread it over the length of the contract. NBA rules are a little retarded as if a team can fill their cap space with a buyout, why not let them do it so they can improve quicker? It would suck if Douby got the axe because the Raps have to hold onto Banks.

by McGateway on Jul 14, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A 1mil big?

Even if we save 1 million this season by buying Banks out… we could use that money to sign Pops… better to have someone useful than someone redundant.

My feeling is that BC will do whatever it takes to open up Banks’ roster spot.

Could he trade Banks for a big making similar money but with one year more owed to him? Hard to find, and not exactly making the financial situation more flexible… but it’s an option.

There just isn’t room for Banks anymore…

by lessthanzero on Jul 14, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ya depends on what we can do with the roster spot.

However, it is possible that Bank’s value as an expiring a year from now might be greater than the benefit we would realize from beefing up that 15th roster spot.

>> But by buying him would, would we even realize a cap savings this year??

by TJ Caino on Jul 14, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How a Buyout Works

Both sides need to agree to an amount that he would get paid.

48.375% of the amount would count toward this year’s cap figure and 51.625% would count toward next year’s total. For eaxample, if they agreed on 8 million – 3.875 would count this year and 4.125 would count next year.

Given that Banks would probably be lucky to get a vet min deal, it is unlikely that he would agree to much less than 8 million. Meaning the Raps would not save much money in a buyout.

by JBen on Jul 14, 2009 9:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Contracts that are worse than Marcus Banks'

Mr. Banks is signed for 2 more years (through 2010-2011) and $4.8M in the last year.

Here are a few (in the same range of dollars) that are the same or worse:

- Beno Udrih (Kings): 4 more years, $7.3M in the last year (2012-2013)
- Andres Nocioni (Kings): 4 more years, $7.5M in the last year (2012-2013)
- Francisco Garcia (Kings): 5 more years, $6.4M in the last year (2013-2014)
- Luke Walton (Lakers): 4 more years, $5.8M in the last year (2012-2013)
- James Jones (Heat): 4 more years, $5.4M in the last year (2012-2013)
- Martell Webster (Blasers): 4 more years, $5.7M in the last year (2012-2013)
- Charlie Bell (Bucks): 3 more years, $4.1M in the last year (2011-2012)
- Mo Pete (Hornets): 2 more years, $6,2M in the last year (2010-2011)
- Jared Jeffries (Knicks): 2 more years, $6.9M in the last year (2010-2011)
- Jason Kapono: 2 more years, $6.6M in last year (2010-2011)

Of all those deals, only Nocioni seems like a decent fit for the Raps… maybe a trade like Banks + Devean George + a 2nd rounder for Nocioni??? (this would significantly reduce Sacramento’s salary obligations)

by B.C. on Jul 14, 2009 9:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

George & banks

There are a number of reasons why Sacramento would not trade Nocioni for George Banks.
1. Its a retardedly one sided deal. Sacramento just traded two decent players to get Nocioni. They are not going to just give him away for another teams spare parts even if it does save them money.
2. I think there is a rule about players being traded within 3 months they cannot be traded again in a package (only straight up or something like that). So George cannot be packaged in a deal for at least 3 months and I might be wrong about the length of time it might actually be longer.

Personally, I would target Martell Webster as that is more likely to happen due to the huge injury risk he brings.

by McGateway on Jul 15, 2009 5:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This just goes to show how dangerous giving out these max years, MLE range deals is. Better to give it to a young player with upside though.

Francisco Garcia has a long ways to go but at least a chance of living up to his contract unlike alot of players on that list.

by bigweeze on Jul 15, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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