RaptorsHQ Stock Watch for May 1, 2009
Aaaah the top 10 list, I time-honoured blogging tradition.
Everywhere you look online you can find such a list; from the "Top 10 Cities Where Americans Get Arrested" (incidentally Toronto was number six on the list in 2007!?), to a great top 10 list posted yesterday by an HQ associate in preparation for the upcoming Star Trek blockbuster – "Top 10 Best (and sometimes Worst) Moments in Star Trek Movies."
With the NBA Draft slowly creeping up (the lottery is in 18 days), and the NBA Draft Early Entry List of draft participants now out, here at the HQ, we’ve decided to roll out our own top 10 list – the top 10 prospects the Raptors should be considering this June.
1) James Harden – Guard, Arizona State:
A slight disclaimer before we get into Mr. Harden. This top 10 list is based on the idea that Toronto doesn’t move up in the draft, that they pick from the ninth spot. So while we’ll rule out Blake Griffin and Ricky Rubio from consideration for all intents and purposes, with no clear-cut number 3 pick at this time, we’ll assume that all options after that are available.
That’s why as likely as it is that James Harden goes in the top five, and therefore outside of Toronto’s range, that could change come workouts etc, and Harden is someone I feel the Raps should be taking a long and hard look at.
Harden might not be the best athlete in the draft, or have the most upside, but in a draft that’s looking more and more like a crap-shoot with each passing day, he looks like a sure-fire complement to the Dinos. The club is looking for a future 2 who can defend his position, get to the rim, and score with the clock winding down, and the man from Arizona State can do all three. Recently, DraftExpress.com did some analysis on Harden which showed that despite some concerns about his ability to create off the bounce, Harden statistically was the best shooting guard in the draft at getting to the free-throw line, and second only to Wayne Ellington in terms of scoring in transition. He also finished second statistically in terms of creating offense for himself in isolation situations, and combined with his strong build, defensive abilities and maturity, if Colangelo can somehow snag him I feel it would be a big coup for the club going forward.
2) DeMar DeRozan – Guard-Forward, USC:
In a draft like this with no clear-cut favourites after the top few picks, it might be worth swinging for the fences and if Bryan Colangelo is going to do that, he should look no further than DeRozan. DeRozan put on one of the more eye-opening performances of course in USC’s brief run through the NCAA tournament, and on upside alone he looks like a top option this June.
He’s incredibly long and perhaps the best athlete in the draft, but really still learning many aspects of the game. I doubt if DeRozan is Toronto’s selection that he’ll make an impact for a few years as even with his considerable hops, he did most of his damage in college in the mid-range with an assortment of jumpers and runners. His ball-handling needs work, he has essentially no 3-point shot, and he’ll need to get a lot stronger if he hopes to check other "3’s."
That being said, if Toronto is looking to upgrade the 2 and 3 starting spots via free-agency, then a high-upside prospect off the bench like DeRozan could be the way to go. I expect his stock to rise from individual workouts and perhaps the real question will be if he’s even around by the time Toronto is ready to draft.
3) Terrence Williams – G, Louisville
As readers know, Howland and I have been aboard the Williams bandwagon for a while now, myself dating back to last season. In a draft that doesn’t appear to contain many sure-fire prospects, Williams in my opinion makes a ton of sense for Toronto. He’s probably the best defender and rebounder at his position, gets out in transition, is an exceptional athlete, and has the grit and edge that the Raptors so badly need.
He’s not a great shooter at this point, but his mechanics aren’t at the Shawn Marion level and this should come with time. He’s also not a great ball-handler and struggles to create in one-on-one situations. Again, that’s not something he can’t improve on either as many forget that Andre Iguodala had the exact same knocks against his game coming out of Arizona. And like Iggy, Williams can play a point-forward type roll, initiating the offense and making good decisions with the ball.
I think Williams is another player who will move into lottery range come individual workouts and I sincerely hope he ends up in a Raptors’ uniform come training camp 2009-10.
4) Tyreke Evans – G, Memphis
Like DeRozan, Evans is another player who improved his stock as the NCAA season wore on, and has one of the highest upsides in the draft. He’s not what you would call a pure point guard, even though he did an admiral job for Memphis in that spot last season, but is not a good enough shooter to be a true 2 either.
At 6-5, he’s an interesting option for a Raptors team that struggled defensively at the 1, and at both ends when Jose Calderon wasn’t in the game. If Bryan Colangelo is looking to go with Roko again next year behind Jose, Evans could be a nice piece of insurance as a 2 who can fill in at the 1 if Roko falters.
Again, with the way Evans played to finish off the season, the question is if he too will even be an option by the time the Raptors need to make their selection.
5) Gerald Henderson – G, Duke
Perhaps the most improved player in college last year, Henderson went from a disappointing prospect who had only given glimpses of reaching his potential, to one of the best players in the NCAA. If you’ve seen his slashing ability and thunderous dunks, then you immediately know why it makes sense for Toronto to snatch him up.
However even being a huge Duke fan, I’m not going to get my hopes up in regards to Henderson being the option at the 2 this team needs. His jumper is still inconsistent, is a lot less effective going left, and he’ll need to add some range on his shot. He was definitely one of the better creators off the dribble at his position and with his excellent length and athletic abilities, could be a lock-down defender at the next level.
All this being said, I’d be quite pleased if Henderson was a Raptor after this year’s draft however I’m not expecting him to change the face of the franchise.
6) Johnny Flynn – PG, Syracuse, 7) Ty Lawson – PG, North Carolina, 8) Jeff Teague – G, Wake Forest
If you’ve been watching the NBA playoffs this year, one thing that should have stood out is just how important point guard play is.
-Derrick Rose and Rajon Rondo have been going toe-to-toe in an incredible first-round battle.
-Chauncey Billups has the Nuggets moving on after vanquishing Chris Paul’s Hornets (with Paul being essentially the only player on that team to show up in the series.)
-And even lesser-known PG’s like Aaron Brooks and JJ Barea have been extremely effective for their respective clubs.
However beyond simply the play at the overall play at the 1, I’d like to focus on the play of guys like Brooks, Barea and Rondo. Under the new "non-hand-checking" NBA rules, players of this ilk, quick and athletic, are nearly unstoppable, especially in transition. Michael Grange recently blogged about this water-bug factor and it’s the reason I’ve lumped all three of these players together; each fits that new style of NBA-point guard, Johnny Flynn in particular.
One of the best scorers and finishers in addition to being one of the best distributors, Flynn looks like Rajon Rondo without the length and with a jump-shot. He’s one of the quickest players end-to-end, loves to create off the bounce and get to the rim, and while slight of frame, loves to draw contact and is a warrior on the court. (His performance in the Big East tourney is testament to that.)
Lawson is not the scorer that Flynn is, but is a superior defender and offensive facilitator and he too can get up and down the court. Lawson may actually be even faster than Flynn and for a team like the Raptors looking to push the ball on offense, and do a better job slowly down the point of attack defensively, Ty has all the makings of a great fit. Again, will Colangelo look to draft a point guard only to possibly hurt the development of Roko Ukic? That’s a tough call but there’s no question that on paper, a proven winner like Lawson could be a nice addition to the team.
Finally, we get to Wake Forest’s Jeff Teague. Teague has been ranked everywhere this season, from top 5 pick to outside the lottery, and this is mostly because it’s hard to predict just what type of player he’ll be come NBA-time. He reminds many Monta Ellis due to his scoring ability and transition game, however for every Ellis, there’s also a Shammond Williams or Troy Bell. The key is if Teague can show that he can adequately play the 1 at the next level because at 6-2, he’s definitely on the small side to man the shooting guard spot. The Raptors could definitely use an injection of scoring in the back-court like the one he could provide and he’s another player I expect the Dinos to keep an eye on come draft day.
9) DeJuan Blair – PF, PITT
There’s not much to say about Blair that we haven’t already here at the HQ. He’s the biggest Bull in the NBA Draft China-Shop and his size, rebounding abilities, and toughness would be a big upgrade off the bench for the Raptors no matter how you slice it.
Is he the second-coming of Paul Millsap? Perhaps, although he’s going to need to put in some work on his jump-shot and low-post game if that’s the case. At worst he’s a Reggie Evans clone minus the ludicrous contract and foul issues and in this draft, you could do a lot worse.
10) Stephen Curry – G, Davidson
Finally we get to one of the most hotly contested players in the draft, the son of former Raptor, Dell Curry. For starters, I almost didn’t include him on this list as there are other players like Tyler Smith of Tennessee and Chase Budinger of Arizona who I feel may be better fits for the Raps. However on talent and upside, there’s no denying Curry. Having seen him numerous times over the past few seasons I know that regardless of height issues, the kid is going to score at the next level. He’s got unlimited range, and unlike similar scoring sensations like JJ Redick (who actually looked like a pretty good NBA player last night), by showing he can play the 1 it appears that he won’t face many of the same questions regarding size and athletic ability.
That being said, I have some concerns. Namely, Curry is not the slasher that the previous 3 point guards I profiled are, and in today’s NBA, that can be problematic. A good example of this is Jannero Pargo, a similar scoring sensation prior to the NBA but someone who doesn’t get to the rim enough to fall into the Monta Ellis category, nor does he facilitate the offense like Tony Parker. That’s not to say this won’t come with time, but at present I feel like he’d be a better prospect with one particular area of fortitude.
(I think that’s what’s so impressive about Derrick Rose as a sidebar. Rose excels in both of these areas in addition to others displaying some incredibly unique traits. Last night’s block of Rajon Rondo in the third OT period was a testament to this considering Rondo was fading-away and up at nearly the height of his shot; and yet Rose still somehow exploded off the ground and made the key play.)
So if Curry is on the board when Toronto’s pick comes around, should Bryan Colangelo snatch him up? Beyond my skill-set concerns, I’m just not sure Curry is a great fit so if he is the selection, perhaps he becomes part of a trade later in the off-season.
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Message to BC - Say no to Gerald Henderson!!!!
DeMar DeRozan, James Harden or Tyreke Evans with the 9th pick. Mid to late first round - Johnny Flynn, Stephen Curry or Terrence Williams.
And please no to Chase Budinger.
by JordanFanatic on May 1, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions
Your point about Rose and Rondo is spot on.I would add Chris Paul in there as well. Toronto must get a player from this draft with those qualities and who will not be a project but be a starter. I believe Harden, Evens or Curry are capable of that.I also believe Harden can do what Rose did for Chicogo this year. What they must not do is draft for a bench player. If Boston can develop Rondo into a premiere guard then these three; Harden, Curry or Evens can certainly step in quickly. They offer the promise of being crunch time performers. As much as I like Calderon,if you get Harden, Evens or Curry then Calderon becomes very valuable as trade bait with Bosh.
by Rt on May 1, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions
RT: That sounds pretty wrong-headed if you ask me. First of all, sorry but there is no Rose or Paul in this draft; there's not even a Rondo, who displayed all kinds of tools in college but lacked a jumpshot. Rose and Paul went 1st and 4th overall, and were destined to be NBA superstars since well before the draft. Just because we need that kind of player doesn't mean that we can just draft him; if you think Harden, Evans or Curry is going to be anywhere near as good as Rose, Paul or Rondo, you're going to be very disappointed. It's like saying that we should have gotten a player of Lebron James' calibre with our 1st overall pick in 2006.
All that said, if we can get Harden I'll be pretty happy; I'm just not going to hold my breath for him to turn into Derrick freaking Rose.
by Calderford on May 1, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions
No mention of Thabeet? I know he won't be around when the Raptors pick but if they are planning to trade Bosh anyways why not pick up Thabeet and slide Bargs over to the 4.
by pfgtre on May 1, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions
A little off topic but is anyone watching what is likely one of the greatest playoff matchups of all time?
Now that’s entertainment! Watching the Bulls I couldn’t help but think back to the comments about how we are close and could compete with the Bulls and Heat. The Raptors would have been swept by the Celtics. The difference really comes down to heart and toughness of which we posses none.
Some random thoughts about the series:
As much as I like Rose, you can see when he stops penetrating, the offense is stagnant. This is what happened in the 4th quarter and overtime in game 5 when Boston shut down the lane. Rose would dribble far too long and the Bulls would end up with a forced shot. Even last night, Rose was hesitant and made many bad decisions which led to turnovers. Give credit to Vinny for recognizing this and getting the ball in the hands of Kirk to direct the offense.
When Thomas subs into the game, you can see the average IQ of the team sink to uncharted depths.
Miller’s got heart!
Are the Celtic’s the new Spurs? Have they taken over as the most hated team in the league?
Watching Rajon Laimbeer Rondo in action makes me wonder how he was passed over for the sportsman ship award. He was robbed!
Is KG not the personification of Class? Or maybe the C and the L are silent? I don’t know about the rest of you, but I gather my family around just to watch him mouth off "Mother F$#@er" on the sidelines.
I used to have a favorite play. I would salivate as I would see Bruce Bowen sprint towards the Big Aristotle to take the intentional foul. Yup, doesn’t get much more exciting. The way it would kill any flow and momentum, take any fan out of the game and generally make for horrible entertainment was worth it in the name of milking the rules to your advantage. Well, you could probably argue that a Balk call in baseball would be close.
But no more. I have a new favorite play. I just love how when Paul Pierce gets the ball, he goes to his number 1. His favourite play that always produces results. No need to bother with old school basketball folklore about having to get open to get a shot. Just decide when you want to pull out old reliable. It goes something like this: 1) Gather ball in hand. 2) pump fake a defender and wait until they are at least on their tipi toes. 3) Wait until the defender is on his way back down to earth. 4) Charge full speed head first into your defender’s navel (extra points if you can get steam coming out of your nose as you make bull charging noises). 5) upon the slightest contact, fall uncontrollably to the ground while hoisting a shot, wagging your tongue out, flailing your arms and rolling your eyes. Yes, he is a terrific shooter and a clutch performer, it’s just that the emphasis is more on the performer rather than the clutch.
by Zona on May 1, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions
Maybe I'm alone, but I like Stephen Curry for a couple reasons.
First: He can score without trying, and that's something I feel Toronto needs desperately. I'm fed up with guys like Anthony Parker, Jason Kapono, etc., who score 15 points one night and then 6 the next. This team needs more consistent scorers. I love Jose Calderon, but even he needs to step up his offence.
Second: We still don't have a starting SG. I like Parker and Joey Graham, but they'll always be bench guys, and Kapono is just useless. Can Quincy Douby be our starter? I have my doubts.
The only knock I can see against Curry is size, and maybe toughness. But he did lead Davidson over Georgetown, so...
by James on May 1, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions
Anybody see Hinrich go after Rondo last night? Many we should go after him as our starting 2 guard. It's been a long time since we saw that kind of passion and emotion come out of a player.
by Posterized on May 1, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions
Zona, it's funny you mention that about Paul Peirce. I absolutely despise that foul. More often than not, the shooter will fake a shot causing the defender to jump, and when the defender does, the shooter jumps into the defender. It's such an incredibly cheap way to get to the line.
If the officiating wasn't so terrible in the NBA, I'd say the refs should be allowed to call an offensive foul when the shooter charges, jumps, or dives into the defender.
by James on May 1, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions
I know he is expected to be gone by pick #9, but I really want Thabeet.
by JBen on May 1, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions
im really angry that rondo keeps getting away with these hard fouls. first he knocks b miller to the floor and then next game he throws hinrich to the scorrer table to injure him and also throws a punch but misses. and yet no suspension. im going insane here and im really questioning the nba.
ok, now that i got that off my chest. i really think the raps should go after james harden. hopefully he drops to 9 and i think we should also buy a late pick and try to get either blair of hansborough. both just go after it
by tea time on May 1, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions
Its weird but id be happy with any of these guys. Usually in the draft there are players i hate and dont want the raps to take - this year not so much for some reason.
by fromlongrange on May 1, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions
if Celtics win the series I won't watch another game this year. This has been rigged for the Celtics for the last 2 years.
Changed calls by the Refs because KG yelled at them. Fantom calls lack of suspensions not right.
Thank God for the WWE at least they make it look real (I think lol)
by Davl on May 1, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions
Tea Time, the reason the NBA won't take action against Rajon Rondo is because they know the quality of the series would drop drastically if they removed him.
No one expected this series to be as good as it is, but now that we have this 7-game barn-burner, the league is going to do whatever it can to protect it, even if that means letting Rondo get away with his goon tactics.
Davl, it's funny you mention the WWE. That's what the NBA reminds me of. It's more an entertainment league than it is a sports league.
Call me cynical if you like, but that's the truth.
by James on May 1, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions
Outside of Bargnani, t has been ages since the Raps have had a decent draft pick. Even Bargs almost doesn't count, as it is hard to fail with a #1 overall pick.
So this year, if we could draft someone that we could develop; but that was still good enough to start in their rookie year would be welcome. Harden would be ideal with our current line up, and I agree with JBen that Thabeet would also be an interesting acquisition - even if we don't trade Bosh.
Once again, everything points to a very interesting off season. For Raps fans, it is hurry up and wait; and for the NBA fans there is some great ball being played in these playoffs - it reinforces how far off the Raps are. I don't like all this talk of what playoff teams we are better than, 82 games proved that we are better than none.
by Robert Archibald on May 2, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions
DeRozan would be my choice, just to see some decent highlights from the Raptors again... too bad he's somewhere between #4 and #8 in most mock drafts.
DeJuan Blair led the NCAA in offensive rebounds, and that alone is enough for me to want him on the Raps if the slashing 2-3's are all gone.
For a 2nd rounder/long shot, I'd also look at someone who leads the NCAA in some category:
Stefon Jackson in FT attempts (over Blake Griffin, who is intentionally fouled all the time):
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Stefon-Jackson-5108/
Jarvis Varnado in Blocks (over Thabeet, in far fewer minutes/game):
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jarvis-Varnado-1189/
by BC on May 2, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions
Ty Lawson on the right team will be next season's rookie of the year. If he's on the board, i'd take him as the best player available. The Raps need athletes who can break down defenders off the dribble and most importantly, players who are winners.
by ThaProfessa on May 2, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions
I like the Lawson choice too. Like Franchise said, he can defend his position, something Toronto desperately needs at that spot. Proven winner, style of play that fits the league now, all wrapped in one.
by lurker on May 2, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions
Raptors would have been swept by the Garnett less Celts? I do not see why, I would say lot's of people have to get over with this feeling sorry for themselves. Look at the record against Chicago and look also at the games against the celts (with Garnett) I believe they would have put up a fight just as good, actually liked the Raps chances against these Celts better than Chicago ones
by renato on May 3, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions
One thing wrong with potentially getting one of the point guards you mentioned is that they are all short by NBA standards. The Raptors were poor all year long on defense and getting a penetrator at the expense of defense seems alarming to me. We had one of the best penetrators in TJ Ford and rather than fix his head we traded him away.
by melon on May 3, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions

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