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RaptorsHQ Monday Afternoon Stock Watch for February 23, 2009

With his explosive athleticism for his size, Griffin looks to be everyone's top pick in the upcoming draft.

With his explosive athleticism for his size, Griffin looks to be everyone's top pick in the upcoming draft.

Things are really heating up as the NCAA heads towards March Madness, which is suddenly less than a month away! Bracket busters took place last week and some teams that looked to be tourney locks (ahem Tennessee and Georgetown) now are squarely on the bubble and perhaps feeling like that bubble is about to burst.

In addition, this year has proven to not only be a great showcase for individual talent (although a far cry from last year’s heralded freshman group) but there is a genuine parity amongst the nation’s top squads.

-Duke gets humbled by Clemson and then bounces back with a gritty win over Wake Forest last night.

-North Carolina looks to be returning to consensus favourite and then somehow loses to a Maryland team that Duke destroyed by almost 50 earlier this season.

-Illinois upsets Ohio State, UCLA starts to stumble, St. Mary's rolls along without Mills, and Notre Dame is hanging on in the Big East for dear life.

Oh, and Jim Calhoun went off.

All in all just another week in college basketball.

However the one thing that hasn’t changed much this year has been the prominence of a few names on the tip of most draft enthusiasts’ tongues.

This week we take a look at four from the NCAA, and one from overseas, all of whom could go in the top 5 of this year’s draft if they declare.


1) Blake Griffin – Center/Power Forward, Oklahoma.

There’s no question this year who the top pick in the draft will be. Forget upside, need, etc, etc, the lottery winner is going to choose Griffin. There isn’t a player in college who can dominate the way he can at both ends of the court, and for a big man, he’s got impressive athleticism which gives him an advantage over nearly anyone he faces.

Will he become a star in the pro? That’s tough to say as he doesn’t have the all-around skill-set of a Michael Beasley, or the sheer physical presence of lesser-heralded prospects like Thabeet or Blair. The comparisons to Carlos Boozer seem pretty accurate to me although he’s much more athletic than Booze was at Duke and a better shot blocker, although less of a "back-to-the-basket" force. Griffin projects well however it may simply depend on what system he’s drafted into. On a team like Oklahoma City he’s be a perfect fit, whereas I’m not quite sure what a team like the Clippers or Kings would do with him.

As for the Raptors? Well he doesn’t make much sense in terms of positions, however if somehow Toronto managed to win the lottery he’d be an upgrade over Kris Humphries off the bench times 10, and would represent a nice trading chip.

I’m anxious to see how he fares in the tournament against some of the bigger boys in college ball (how crazy would a Pitt-Ok match-up be??) but tonight will be a good test against Kansas.

That’s assuming he plays of course. In a close loss to Texas Saturday night, Griffin suffered a mild concussion and is currently a question mark for tonight’s game.


2) Jordan Hill – Power Forward/Center, Arizona.

From power we move to finesse up front and turn to Arizona’s Jordan Hill.

Hill started to come on strong last year for Zona and looked to be a top 10 option in this year’s draft. His play lately however has pushed him well into the top 5 range and with the exception of an extremely close loss last night to rival Arizona State, Hill’s Wildcats had been tearing up the Pac-10 winning seven of their last eight.

At first glance when you see Hill you think Mikki Moore. Hairstyles aside, both have that wiry strength and are impressive rebounders despite lacking much bulk and being under seven feet. However that’s where the comparisons stop as Hill’s low-post game is infinitely more refined than that of Moore. In fact, there are a lot more similarities to Chris Bosh’s game than that of Moore’s considering Hill has a nice jump-shot, good range, and the raw athleticism to beat his man to the rim off one-on-one moves. He’s a decent ball-handler, but as was the case last night against Arizona State, he struggles in traffic and with double-teams at times – something that will undoubtedly improve with experience.

For the Raptors Hill is much like Griffin in that he doesn’t necessarily fit a need, and probably makes less sense due to his similarities to Bosh. However again, on talent alone Toronto could do much worse but my feeling is that he’ll be in another NBA uniform when training camp starts next season.


3) Ricky Rubio – Point Guard, Spain.

After returning from injury Rubio has played himself back into the spotlight overseas. Everyone saw his performance during the Olympics and NBA vets like Kobe Bryant gushed about his NBA potential. He’s been compared to everyone from Chris Paul to Pistol Pete and with his great court vision and uncanny passing ability, he’s bound to make the team happy that selects him.

The question though is if that will even occur this year.

It’s been reported that Rubio has a large buy-out which may inhibit some teams from taking a chance on him high in the draft if he declares. This is even more true with the league’s current economic situation.

If he falls because of this, it would be silly for a team like Toronto to pass on him even though point guard is one of the spots that seems to be in best shape all things considered. He’d be an upgrade over Roko and in the future, an upgrade probably over Calderon and at worst like Griffin, would give Toronto a very nice trade chip.


4) James Harden – Shooting Guard, Arizona State.

A few weeks ago I finally understood what all the hype was about regarding Harden. It’s tough to see many Pac-10 games but having seen him in action the last three weeks, Harden has leapt into our top 5 draft options for the Dinos.

If you watch him, he’s not going to wow you with incredible athleticism, or blow you away with long-range shooting, but much like Brandon Roy a few seasons ago, he’s just a complete player already at this stage. Last night his Sun Devils were up big on rival Arizona thanks to some impressive shooting from team-mates, but Nic Wise and Kyle Fogg caught fire for Zona turning the game’s final minutes into a dog fight.

That’s when Harden shines.

If he’s not taking over the game from a scoring standpoint, he’s opening up shots for team-mates, getting to the rim, grabbing huge rebounds in traffic and generally doing everything he can to help his team get the W. Last night his penetration opened things up for his teammate Rihards Kuksiks to drill the game-winning 3’s and on the night Harden finished with 18 points, 9 rebounds, 5 assists a steal and a block.

For a Toronto team looking for a sure-fire thing to take-over the 2 spot for Anthony Parker, Harden would be dynamite. He’s not as big as AP but he’s a tenacious defender and much better at creating off the dribble. He may not have the upside or athleticism of prospects such as Aminu or Clark, but for the Toronto Raptors, I’d be thrilled if Harden somehow fell into Bryan Colangelo’s lap.

5) Jrue Holiday – Shooting Guard/Point Guard, UCLA.

I’m honestly not sure what to make of Jrue at this point.

First off, he’s the least certain of all of these players to throw his name in the draft after just a so-so season so far for the Bruins. Well, so-so probably isn’t the best way to describe someone who’s putting up similar numbers to Russell Westbrook, who ended up being a high lottery pick.

However every time I watch Jrue tha Damaja, he just doesn’t jump out at me. Granted, I’ve only seen him play about four times this year but Westbrook always jumped out on sheer athleticism and defense, something that Holiday hasn’t shown yet.

While he was expected to go near the top of this draft was the league’s most heralded freshman, it now seems he may head back to school for another year of seasoning and many mock drafts sites have taken his name off their board.

He’s got a great feel for the game, can score and create off the dribble, but right now I think another year under Ben Howland would do him a world of good.

FRANCHISE

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As usual, loving the updates. Personally, I'm a Rubio believer, and if he manages to end up in Raptor Red I'd be overjoyed. It would also allow us to move Jose for something solid. I'd also gladly take Harden, who would immediately improve our team by leaps and bounds. A starting five of Marion, Harden JC, AB and CB would certainly reignite by belief in our future success.

by RaptorsAddict on Feb 23, 2009 12:00 AM EST reply actions  

Franchise, you mentioned Brandon Roy in evaluating James Harden and it got me thinking about the draft in which Roy, and Bargnani were drafted. That was also considered a weak draft, but imagine for a moment if the Raptors had ended up with Roy instead of Bargs? Where would this team be today? Not 14th in the Eastern Conference!

I agree 100% in your assessment of Harden, in comparing him to Roy; he's poised, talented and NBA ready. Moreover, the guy would fit in perfectly at SG in a Raps line-up that would have Bargnani-Bosh-Marion and Calderon at PG.

For these reasons, I would urge BC to do whaever it takes to put the kid in a Raps uni on draft night; short of dealing any of the above guys. If you need to trade a future first rounder to do it, then do it. I know this may come off crazy, but the Raptors are really in a rebuilding mode, not until they decide to move Bosh; so if they're serious about keeping CB4 they will need a talented (but cost effective) SG to plug into the starting line-up or to have as the 6th man/scoring type off the bench if you want to keep Parker at SG.

Realistically, the Raptors are one more good player away from being a top 4 team in the East if everyone is healthy. Marion looks like he is going to be a jack-of-all-trades SF, Bargnani looks like the icy end of game finisher and if Bosh/Calderon stay healthy and perform up to expectation then Harden + a good back-up big could put this team into contention.

All I'm saying is this team tried one Spurs analogy in pairing Bosh with O'Neal to re-create the twin towers; they should go back one year and mimic the Spurs as they tanked, got the top pick and returned to glory. I know this has been said, and I myself mentioned that there is no Duncan in this draft, but the Raptors don't need a Duncan; they need a Brandon Roy type. Enter James Harden.

Rob

by 2nd Raps fan in LA on Feb 23, 2009 12:00 AM EST reply actions  

Oh and BC, needs to target another 1st round pick and spend that cash he got in the Marion trade.

The Hornets, Suns and Cavs are all teams I would call because they all have financial considerations that may motivate them to divest themselves of a 2 year financial commitment to a first round pick.

The bottom half of the draft looks promising from the draft boards I've seen, with guys like Blair, Budinger, Hansbrough and Terrence Williams of Louisville. I especially like Blair after watching his performance against Thabeet and UConn; this guy will not have trouble because of being undersized. He knows how to finish around guys that are bigger and he's a bull around the basket. Best case scenario, you get Millsap version 2.0 and worst case is Craig Smith; either way, you're getting a very good rebounding big man off the bench.

Rob

by 2nd Raps fan in LA on Feb 23, 2009 12:00 AM EST reply actions  

Two draft picks would be choice in this draft.

Lets see where the ping-pong balls fall first... that is a massive variable in terms of making decisions...

by JENGE on Feb 23, 2009 12:00 AM EST reply actions  

I know of two players from Wake Forest might add a little 'sumthin sumthin' to this team...

by JENGE on Feb 23, 2009 12:00 AM EST reply actions  

raps fan from LA, the thing is we didn't really have a need for Roy in '06 we had Mo Pete, Joey G, Jalen Rose, Eric Williams, and we had incompetent centres like Rafael Araujo and Loren Woods and at the time Matt Bonner wasn't what he is now so it wouldn't have made sense for BC to draft B-Roy although I'm pretty sure he was aware of his polished skill set... at this point in time I would also have been happier wit Roy but I think bargnani will be a really good scoring option for us in the future mixed with CB and Marion but man if we could've had Roy as well on top of AB that would be just nasty....lol imagine: Calderon, Bosh, Bargnani, Marion and B-Roy, 'Nuff Said. If BC woulda been a magician he should've drafted Roy first and get the rights to Bargnani through a trade because he would've dropped to maybe top 7 or 8 where another team would've been willing to maybe trade him for a future first round pick or somethin...oh sigh "if's" and "could've beens" is the only thing that's even remotely entertaining in raptors land these days

by syMMetry on Feb 23, 2009 12:00 AM EST reply actions  

Again, we are talking about drafting for need instead of for talent. If the best guy plays Bosh's position, draft him!Isn't that the kind of thinking that brought Araujo to Toronto instead of Igudala.
That said, if we can get Rubio, we have to get Rubio. Please. He is internationally proven and has all the tools. He may come and become the #1 pg in short order, but having Roko (one who continues to grow and learn to shoot), Jose, and Ricky would be a good group for the one and two. Add a bigger 2 guard and you are good.
As for Griffin, who we won't have a chance to draft anyway, he would get plenty of court time here and still learn without being in the cross hairs. Anyone with talent has a home in TO.

by EaseMyPain on Feb 23, 2009 12:00 AM EST reply actions  

Keep up the updates - great for those of us who cant get to see a lot of these guys on a regular basis.

Id love to see harden here too from everything ive read about him, and the raps might have a shot at him if he doesnt go top 3.

by fromlongrange on Feb 23, 2009 12:00 AM EST reply actions  

James Harden is exactly what this team needs. His selection would definitely make up for passing on Roy two years ago.

by Skywalker on Feb 23, 2009 12:00 AM EST reply actions  

Symmetry, I agree with you that we had a glut of sg/sf's when that draft went down and so we passed over guys like Gay/Roy in order to take Bargs. And I agree that Bargs doesn't look like a bust any longer, but I was lamenting that draft in a wishful thinking sort of way; imagining where this team would be with a leader/playmaker like Roy alongside Bosh and Calderon.

On another note, EaseMyPain, how would moving UP to draft Harden be drafting for position instead of talent? I must've missed where you connected the dots on that conclusion. I agree that Rubio is a nice prospect, but again this team doesn't have time to develop a prospect or devote playing time to a guy because we want to showcase him as trade bait. What this team needs is a player who can contribute quality minutes at the SG spot, and who is on a rookie scale contract.

We need to have a good, tumult-free, 09-10 season to convince Bosh to re-sign and build towards a championship; I'd like to see the Raptors win one, while I'm still young enough to celebrate.

Rob

by 2nd Raps fan in LA on Feb 23, 2009 12:00 AM EST reply actions  

"We need to have a good, tumult-free, 09-10 season to convince Bosh to re-sign and build towards a championship; I'd like to see the Raptors win one, while I'm still young enough to celebrate."

Amen to that Rob.

by syMMetry on Feb 23, 2009 12:00 AM EST reply actions  

But the thing with Roy Rob is that I don't think he would've panned out to be this kind of player under Mitchell personally. Also, I really hope we draft James Harden we really need some consistency from the SG position in terms of scoring and I don't know how good of a defender Harden is but if he was a good perimeter defender too this boy would be heaven sent....

by syMMetry on Feb 23, 2009 12:00 AM EST reply actions  

Oh, and also if we do resign AP I think that would be good because AP has his nights when he's hot and his nights when not but with Harden and even Joey coming off the bench with energy and scoring production we will hopefully be reaching that 105 - 110 point plateu more often...

P.S. I'm already writing my christmas wishlist and on it is a 12 mil a year contract from Mr.Marion...Santa if you're listening make sure your homie elves pay Mr.Marion a visit...Please and Thank You. lol

by syMMetry on Feb 23, 2009 12:00 AM EST reply actions  

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