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Tip-In: Toronto Raptors Post Game Report - Mo Questions

The Raptors sweep the Hornets for their second win in a row against yet another sub .500 team.  Vicious D wonders what this team will do when they face a real challenger who doesn't shoot themselves in the foot.

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Let's be honest for a moment.

There were a lot of things that had to break the Raptors' way for them to beat the New Orleans Hornets 98-92 yesterday.

With the Raptors last game against the Nets, I believed that they had not improved or implemented many different tactics to pull out a win against the worst team in the league.  Instead, they were just playing the worst team in the league and the Raptors just were not as bad as the worst.

Against the Hornets?

Well, there was going to be a bigger challenge for the Raptors than the Nets, but the Raptors have recently played the Hornets fairly well year after year.  Of course, Jose Calderon has always been a big part of that success and with Calderon sidelined indefinitely with his hip injury, Jarrett Jack came in and provided some offense despite fighting off an illness.  More efficient than Paul, Jack was controlled with his offense and deferred appropriately to the others on the floor.  He also challenged Paul to defend him by going to the basket throughout the game. 

Then Marcus Banks came in and didn't miss a beat.

Now one might say that Marcus Banks has the widest shoulders of any player at his height which makes it that much more difficult for opposing guards to blow by him.  In fact, he might actually have the widest frame of any Raptor this side of Joey Graham.  With yet another quality performance under his belt, Banks seems to be rounding into form more and more.  He is starting to resemble the backup that Phoenix saw many years ago who deserved a $4 million dollar contract.  While Banks still does throw up the questionable shot once in a while, he does also try to use his body to his full advantage.

And thus, the arguments to trade Jose Calderon have begun.

Nevertheless, I'm not one to throw our starting point guard under the bus yet.  Besides being one of the better "in control" players on this squad, he still is a high percentage shooter and is definitely one of the lowest turnover point guards in the league.   More importantly, finding takers for a $9-10 million dollar contract over 3 1/2 years will not be an easy task and I don't believe his stock could be any lower than it is right now.  However, Banks is definitely helping his own stock around the league as at least a serviceable second option for most teams and is definitely an important piece of Toronto's puzzle right now. 

Of course, Amir Johnson was once again a major spark plug coming off the bench, and Andrea Bargnani has a couple key blocks down the stretch which almost made up for his fairly poor shooting.  Chris Bosh also dropped down another 20 and 10 and DeMar DeRozan gave the Raptors a little bit of boost from his athleticism.

Besides that, there's little to be cheery about in this game.

The Hornets were pretty horrendous from all over the floor, shooting a horrid 39% from the floor and disgusting 14% from beyond the arc. Peja Stojakovic had an absolutely horrid shooting day going 1-7 from three and 4-15 overall after dropping a ton of shots on the Nuggets the other night.  Many of the shots were open shots that the Hornets simply missed and the Raptors did very little to clean up the glass against Emeka Okafor and David West.  One might point to the fact that the Raptors had three players in double figures for rebounding, but I would point to the horrid shooting of the Hornets as a large reason for those rebounds.  Don't get me wrong.  Chris Bosh, Andrea Bargnani, and Amir Johnson especially, were not just standing around waiting for the ball.  However, Okafor managed to get seven offensive rebounds for the game and probably would have lots more had Bargnani not been taken out due to foul trouble. 

What was most disappointing for me was just watching the Raptors on the offensive side.

With the Hornets going "small" for the majority of the game, the Raptors insisted on keeping most of their shots on the outside and didn't attack the basket enough.  Even when players like Chris Bosh got into the paint, they still ended up taking a fadeaway or an off-balanced hook in the paint rather than going up strong and racking up the fouls on the Hornets' big men.  With Matt Devlin and Leo Rautins both pointing out that the Raptors needed to go inside and even reporting that Jay Triano was pleading for them to keep attacking the basket, the Raptors themselves seem content to keep taking outside shots.

And once again, I'm left shaking my head.

There is no question that the Raptors need to be beating this teams that they're facing right now.  With Boston and San Antonio around to ring in the new year, they have to take advantage of every sub-.500 team match up they can.  However, good teams will use this momentum to build and work on their faults.  Like a sharpening stone, these sub-.500 teams are a good opportunity to practice the things you've worked on in practice and to establish good habits so that when you face the tougher opponents in the league, you have a good foundation to work on.

Right now?  I'm seeing a lot of the same problems, just against lesser teams that can't take advantage of the Raptors' shortcomings.  I've been asked repeatedly about improvements to this team and its chemistry, but to be honest, there's very little in the way of good news.  About the only thing that's good is that the Raptors staff has been allowed to explore the depth of their bench, something that us fans have begged for since pre-season when we saw how both Sonny Weems and Amir Johnson played the floor.  However, the main problems with the starting core remain the same.  There is still too much of a tendency to do what comes easy in basketball rather than doing what will win them the close, tough games.

The wins are welcome, and the feelings around the team are good for now. but the sense of foreboding that I feel about the days ahead just can't be whisked away with these kinds of wins.

Somehow, this team has got to start taking care of their shortcomings or they're going to hit a wall very quick and very hard.

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This time I did pay attention

Most of Okafor off rebounds came out of either Andrea or Chris leaving him to provide help D to an effect since the player they went to help against missed or gave an assist to Okafor. You can’t blame either one for that.

by renato on Dec 21, 2009 8:36 AM EST reply actions  

Defensive rotations

I agree. Defensive rotations from our wings often leave our ‘bigs’ abandoned. Still nice win. Yes, NO is under 500 but keep in mind that since their coaching change and return of Paul from injury, they have been playing better (won 9 of last 13 coming into yesterday).

by cmrm123 on Dec 21, 2009 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

pnr/or feed the big down low !!!

I agree these are the games where we are supposed to be tuning up for the above 500 teams,we do see a few signs of Hedo and Bosh playing the pnr to perfection then it disapears !!!! a feed to a down low to Bargs,again to perfection….to never see it again !!! thats all about coaching,run the dam pnr,and Bargs get down low and someone wil feed you the ball.Yea I am happy with the win,and Yes Paul had one leg but I’ll take the W.
Was it not great to see Hedo and Bosh’s pnr,but the feed down low,you know where our center should be playing was awsome !!!! then Houdini !!!!,ok we proved that we can do it if we have to…hey guess what you have to,or sit your ass next to AW.

by d279 on Dec 21, 2009 8:59 AM EST reply actions  

I disagree

It has been a constant this year, Andrea posting just to be ignored and, funny enough, he scored most of the time….

by renato on Dec 21, 2009 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

He definitely scored most of the time yesterday when he posted. But yes, he has been looked off, and it’s not always his fault that he only takes shots from the outside. I’m surprised actually at how little they run the side pick and roll, considering that’s how Bargs could often post up the opposing team’s guard and such.

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious

by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Dec 21, 2009 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Not just yestarday, this is something that has not changed since last season

This aspect of the game is a major setback, it is actually surprising, in light of that, he still has decent numbers. I believe this is another aspect of gelling and learning (coaching staff) how to get the most out of this group. In the meantime his outside shot is not falling regularly and that keeps him from driving regularly. His overall production could be much better.

How can anyone get confident with one aspect of his game (in the case of Bargs posting up, also against competing centers) if you are not allowed to do it, if not sporadically? If you look at how he moves, it seems he has it in him; maybe next year, or next team.

by renato on Dec 21, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I agree with that completely. But I think most people are not too distraught about his numbers on offense… It’s about defense and rebounding for him most nights. I know some people will argue that it’s cause he’s looked out of post ups that he doesn’t get as many rebounding opportunities, but a lot of time, it’s about his decision making… On long offensive rebounds especially, he gets inside position, but often ends up going too far inside rather than blocking out a man. On things like that, he has to become a little bit more smart especially since this is year 4 Bargnani that we’re talking about.

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious

by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Dec 21, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I believe it is a bit of everything

Especially because he is more naturally talented on O rather than D, and up till now he is overlooked on O and expected to being it on D. This cannot be booked as :Maximizing the available talent.
Than yes, he is trying on D, but I am sure you know the different between being “just” diligent and bringing it…

by renato on Dec 21, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Posting Up

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Bargnani is like that kid at school, waving his hands in the air, hoping the teacher will pick him.

End result …. Not enough for little Barney.
Which would be about 5’10.

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by RapthoseLeafs on Dec 22, 2009 1:41 AM EST up reply actions  

you misunderstood Renato

My point,,that I should of mentioned,is that nobody gives him the ball down low…

by d279 on Dec 21, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Re Raptors wins

A real coincedence that every team that Raptors beat, it’s because that team played poorly, could’nt make any shots, someone was injured, or was a loser, or whatever.
In the NBA, it’s not who, or how, it’s only HOW MANY WINS.

Re trading Calderon you are blind if you think Banks is anything more than a 3rd string emegency back-up, as the Rap’s offence has gone in the toilet, down 8/10 ppg since Jose was injured and Jack and Banks running it.

by Johnn19 on Dec 21, 2009 9:41 AM EST reply actions  

How many wins matters for your positioning in the standings, but how you win determines how you’ll match up in the playoffs. And if we’re talking also about improving over the course of the year, getting better chemistry, and just getting a better team while forging an identity, I don’t think that’s been happening successfully this year and that’s really concerning considering we’re past the 1/3rd mark of the season.

If our goal was just to make the playoffs, I’d agree, but this is a core that we need to function for 3, 4 years with all their contracts and such. Nothing they’ve shown me in the past while has changed my perception of this team and it’s definitely not changed my mind that they are often only looking for the easy way out of games.

And I’d agree with you if the Raptors beat more quality teams, but New Orleans had a lot of people with off shooting nights. THAT is definitely nothing to do with the Raptors as if you watch a replay of yesterday’s game, a lot of the shots New Orleans missed were wide open. When you go 3-21 from beyond the arc as a team, you’re just not going to win many games. Yeah, the Raptors did it earlier this year, but it’s a rarity still.

And I agree about how Calderon has been thrown under the bus with everyone lately.

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious

by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Dec 21, 2009 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Calderon might be under the bus...

… but he kind of deserves it.

He still hasn’t shown that he can handle being a full-time starter in the NBA. This insane notion of Calderon as an All-Star-quality PG comes from one stretch a couple of years ago where he stepped up in the absence of TJ Ford.

His defence is probably the worst of any PG in the league (statistically, he turns every opposing PG into Steve Nash).

The Jarrett Jack-Calderon backcourt is painful to watch.

The Raptors can split the ball handling amongst Jack, Hedo Turkoglu, Marcus Banks, and even Marco Belinelli while not having to play such a defensive liability for 30+ minutes per game.

And Calderon is probably our most valuable asset next to Bosh, when you consider the fact that Turkoglu and Andrea Bargnani’s trade values have been destroyed by horrific contracts.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Dec 21, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ll disagree with that quite a lot. Numbers are skewed right now since the Raptors have played a lot of "easier" teams lately. Let’s not forget that Jack and Banks were around when we played Miami and Orlando less than a week ago and neither have had to play a true AAA speed point guard yet this year.

I’ll agree that the JJ-Calderon backcourt is horrible, but that’s not Calderon’s fault. That’s the coaching staff’s.

And I don’t know if Calderon is as valuable as either of those pieces right now. You can make the argument that Bargnani has a suitable “big man” contract, and Turkoglu can be better with the “correct team”. Length-wise, it’s negligible and cost wise, all three are about the same, except Calderon doesn’t have any outstanding physical qualities unlike the other two players.

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious

by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Dec 21, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

The last two PGs the Raptors faced were Chris Paul and Devin Harris. If neither of those guys — particularly Paul — deserve the ‘AAA’ rating, then I’m not sure who does? LOL

The Jack-Calderon backcourt is the coaching staff’s fault to a point. It’s more of a function of a flawed roster. You’re not going to play Jack 10-15 minutes in a backup role (or vice versa with Calderon).

Turkoglu wouldn’t be better with any other team. As Tim Chisholm from TSN pointed out, Turk is actually putting up the exact same numbers he did last season in Orlando. He’s even shooting a higher percentage. Hedo is what he is. The Raptors need to work out maximizing his talents passing out of the post or whatever, since he’s unmoveable until the final year of his deal.

Bargnani might have a suitable “big man” contract IF he played like a big man on the defensive end of the court. He doesn’t. And Colangelo will probably quit before he gives up on the guy… So what do you do? Well, like the 2001 76ers built around a flawed star in Allen Iverson, you construct the rest of the roster to mask Bargnani’s deficiencies. And that starts with not having a PG who lets every player from Anthony Johnson all the way to Chris Paul into the paint for easy looks.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Dec 21, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

But but

This Roster is built around Bosh, not Bargnani, (he would see the ball more otherwise) so maybe it is Bosh deficiencies we are masking. I am still faithfully waiting you to nail Bosh for his defense……Tic, toc….

by renato on Dec 21, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Bosh is having a great season offensively. His rebounding numbers are great. But I will NEVER praise the guy for his interior defence. We’ve seen it in spurts, but it is in no way consistent.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Dec 21, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I concur

 You do not praise him, but you do not call him off either, would you agree?

by renato on Dec 21, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

My New Year’s Resolution is to call him out more for that :)

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Dec 21, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I am going to hold you on that

Not asking for much, just to be as “vigilant” as you are with Andrea. Anyway I am focusing on D too, pls read my first post

by renato on Dec 21, 2009 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Chris Paul, one bad leg. Devin Harris, one guy that the Raptors can gang up on. Devin Harris even got to the basket at will in the second half of that Nets game as I said in the recap for that game.

It’s a flawed substitution pattern. We all agree that it’s a bad lineup, so why wasn’t Weems put it instead? Not being able to find the PGs minutes is not something that I believe is a problem on this team, but rather that Jay and the staff like what they have on the floor with two playmakers as they’ve said before.

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious

by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Dec 21, 2009 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

D

It’s important to put the defense this duo brings to the pg position into consideration as well as helping on the wings. Scoring less to bring the W I’ll take anytime.

by Scores on Dec 22, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Lets put things into perspective

I have to disagree with Vicious D on his assessment of how the Raps are winning. What did you expect to see the Raps beat NO like they beat NJN.I don’t think so, NO is a very good western conference team over the past few years, they are only having a bad year due to injury and a suspect trade. So expecting the Raps to beat upon them because they are sub 500 is rediculous. NO is 9 -4 in there last 13 games, that is hardly a sub 500 squad. What everyone seems to be forgetting is that the Raps won 13 of 30 games with possible the worst schedule that a team could have. They played 30 games in 53 days with a ton load of back to backs and 9 new players that have never played with each other. You all need to give the Raps some slack, AB will be fine, with the practice time that are coming for the Raps. We as Raptors fan always look for negatives to thrive on, what kind of fan are we. Vicious D instead of speculating on the Negatives, why can’t you go the other way and speculate on the possitives. Why look for things to turn off the Raps fans and create all kind of bullshit controversy like calling for JOse to be traded because Banks has 2 good games. Our basketball knowledge is really poor in this country and its because of the media. You should be pumping up the fans to get behind the team and support them whenever they play, instead you have the fans looking for short comings so as the team gets down to a good team…all you hear is…“here we go again”…when it should be…Every team makes a run…the Raps will come back…..

by raps4life on Dec 21, 2009 11:18 AM EST reply actions  

Hell, I’M not calling for Calderon’s trade. EVERYONE else is. I’m saying that it’s not prudent and I don’t believe in it that it should happen. There’s only one. ONE Raptor jersey that I have and that’s Calderon’s.

As for their record, I don’t really feel a need to discuss it. Yes, this team has had the hardest schedule out there, but they always go through a rough patch every year. Are they the worst defensive team every year per possessions? Not by a long shot. That’s only happened this year. Do I see that this team is getting better defensively against the worst teams in the NBA? No, I do not. That’s what I want to point out right now because everyone has this feel-good vibe from this team right now, especially from the Raptors’ own media. Fundamentally, there are problems with this team even in their wins, and while winning will mask those problems for a while, they will come back.

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious

by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Dec 21, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree...

I have been an avid reader in herr and rarely post because compare to some of you i am amateur at best in my opinions. But i say there are days when i just don’t want to read all this negative posts. Its not like i am wearing a rose colored glasses but you guys are just so negative. I am as frustrated as you guys because i am a raps fan but you dhould be more positive. AB is not the best centre or even in top 5 in the league but he is more important and useful than you guys give him credit for. And you guys may have to accept the fact that he may be the face of the franshise if Bosh leaves and if given th eopportunity he will bloom and an all-star i guarantee it. So please guys let’s lighten up a bit here.

by mremann48 on Dec 21, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

The Hornets aren't a sub-500 team

…if you take away their two losses to the Raptors.

Seriously, if we’re only going to be happy when they beat the Lakers, it’s not going to be much fun to be fans. Sure, there are negatives to note, but it’s one more tick in the win column.

I've been looking at the sky

by Back In Black on Dec 21, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

disagree

man so your basically saying we should ignore the fact that we got our asses kicked by atlanta who scored 146 on us and wee se the same bad habbits happening in the wins its jsut teams are to dumb to take advantage of them like im not sure about vicuous d but im not content with watching raps be a middle of the table team the raps wouldnt even be in a playoff spot had the east not been so bad were so lucky tht the east sucks this year tht were only half a game out of the 6th spot like seriously the raptors have some major problems i knw calderon helps the teams score 10 more points but he lets the oppoing team score like 15 16 points kus he cant play d n trust me theres alot of good pg who can distrabute the ball like calderon n can play some defence im not a fan of calderon because i feel just because he can pass a ball n doesnt turn the ball over which i feel every player with a brain should be able to do like seriously we could find a player tht doesnt turn the ball over because hedo can pass for us . so basically who do we choose as ure offence runner hedo or calderon one of them has to go n since hedo is un tradeable n his contract is longer calderon has to go for the chemistry of this team to be ok because both these players need the ball to be effective so i say trade calderon for more of a spot up shooter guy who can play d n not turn the ball over

by raptors_run_the_show on Dec 21, 2009 11:32 AM EST reply actions  

ATLANTA HAWKS

Be careful using the losses to the ATL Hawks as a yardstick. Yes it hurts, and they schooled us; but that team is a juggernaut. Maybe even bigger…..

by Jenge on Dec 21, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Banks

Remember, this is a contract year for him. So, it’s not out of the ordinary for him to be stepping up his game this season.

by Frag on Dec 21, 2009 1:26 PM EST reply actions  

Nope

He is in a contract till the end of next year if I am not mistaken, otherwise he would have been considered an asset rather than a liability (by the fans, that’s it)

by renato on Dec 21, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah, my mistake.

I included the 05-06 season for some reason.

by Frag on Dec 21, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

listen…don’t want to bust up the whole critical analysis thing that’s going on here…but the raps aren’t winning a championship anytime soon. let’s take the wins and enjoy the game of basketball every once in a while, yeah?

a couple of wins we expected out the raps with some nice things happenin’ with weems, derozan, and amir. the oldest of which is 22.

by vicPapa on Dec 21, 2009 2:26 PM EST reply actions  

a couple of wins we expected out the raps with some nice things happenin’ with weems, derozan, and amir. the oldest of which is 22.

That’s not a bad bit of optimism there considering this team is not going to see much improvement from the big guns on this roster.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Dec 21, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I beg your friend to keep an eye on you

with all this negativity, if you follow the “wrong” religion, you may trow petrol on yourself and set yourself on fire in protest….

by renato on Dec 21, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Good Point

The recent focus on athleticism in BC’s personal moves is a positive indicator for the future.
Trading for Amir has turned out well, and shows that BC wanted to complement the bigman rotation needs a athletic hustle big willing to focus on defense. Evans doesn’t have Amir’s upside, but makes a positive contribution to the imbalance on the boards when in the game. Evans and Pops also make the kinds of plays that can get the team and fans fired up.

Weems may have been a throw in on any other team. On a team as starved for athleticism as the Raptors, he always had chance to distinguish himself in the rotation. If he’s taking advantage of this opportunity by putting in extra time with the coaching staff, we could have a valuable contributor who goes beyond the role of energy wing player.

As an aside, one has to wonder which of Weems or Amir ends up being the darkhorse rotation candidate that contributed the most by the end of the season. Amir was more accomplished coming in, and there was already an idea of what his role was going to be. The barrier is that he plays behind two of the team’s best players. Weems is less proven, but has an easier path to a bigger role in the rotation. As a 2008 second round pick, Weems is controllable for another two years. I hope a one year deal next year keeps him hungry enough to work with our coaches during the summer.

by Yardly on Dec 22, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

“However, good teams will use this momentum to build and work on their faults. Like a sharpening stone, these sub-.500 teams are a good opportunity to practice the things you’ve worked on in practice and to establish good habits so that when you face the tougher opponents in the league, you have a good foundation to work on.”

And after starting each season (first couple months) with a top five in the Strength of Schedule rating year after year, the raptors have had far fewer of these “live practices” compared to some teams, like the team that rode a miraculous golden trail of easy opponents right to a championship immediately after miraculous being handed a couple top 20 players of all time.

If you go to this link, you’ll see they’re dead last in SOS.
 http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/stats/rpi?season=2008&sortColumn=sos

I remember looking last year when smitch got fired that if we’d had cleveland’s schedule and beat the teams we normaly beat, we’d be at .500 and smitch would be sticking around. It’s just one of many factors, but possibly the single most important one for an almost brand new team.

Viscious D my point is just to try to talk you back off the ledge a bit… Everything takes time, you have to go from the bottom to the middle to the top.

by axl t on Dec 21, 2009 4:39 PM EST reply actions  

Sure. I’ll give it some more time, but just wanting to see more. I’m being a bit negative here because I think that a lot of people are starting to believe this team is better than it is. And man, I’ve been trying to stay positive for most of this year (as my other HQ colleagues will tell you) but I just want more from my Raptors teams.

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious

by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Dec 21, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I admire your passion and I’m not suggesting to be always positive, just a little more analytical would be my preference.

Don’t get me wrong, I yell and scream and scoff at the TV screen, but when it’s all over, you know, they’re the only team we’ve got.

by axl t on Dec 21, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Less then the sum of their parts
And man, I’ve been trying to stay positive for most of this year (as my other HQ colleagues will tell you) but I just want more from my Raptors teams.
Everything takes time, you have to go from the bottom to the middle to the top.

Our frustration may just be a product of our collective need to see this team become more well rounded. The whiz bang, raining jumpers show is great for a year or two. After that, you take it as a given, and start looking for improvements in other areas. More then pointing fingers at any one player, it looks like this mix of players doesn’t complement themselves well on the defensive side of the ball. I have a feeling that you could reconfigure this roster four different ways this offseason.

For example:

One way to minimize Calderon’s inability to keep people out of the paint. Another way to compensate for Bargnani’s lack of rebounding instincts via ++ rebounders at the other two front court spots. Don’t forget that great paint defender who can erase the problem’s that Hedo’s lack of footspeed creates. A fourth way could be to find that frontcourt partner that aggressively defends the paint so that Bosh doesn’t have to. Phrased another way, is it on Bosh and Bargs to be better on their rotations to compensate for opposition blowbys of Hedo and Calderon? Or is the onus on Hedo and Calderon to be better at the point of attack, so that Bosh and Bargs aren’t forced to decide between help defense and man defense? Is this degree of improvements even reasonable to expect given past performance by all parties involved?

If Plan A is resign Bosh, there is no reason to think that even that choice would result in maintenance of the status quo. Speculate with me for a second. Would it be out of the realm of possibility that Bosh makes specific improvements at the other starting spots a condition of his return. He does have the hammer, and has more influence with the organization then the aforementioned three put together. His experience as an Olympian and dedication to training has changed him. I can’t see him content to lead a team that has to flip a coin to see which side of a 125-110 game they come out on.

by Yardly on Dec 22, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

This year the Raps have the 7th toughest schedule so far (see the same link but for 2009-2010). They have also played more games (30) than anyone else. I think both are factors in the Raptors record and lack of progress on defense.

by siggian on Dec 21, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes and they were fifth earlier. Right up until they played new jersey I believe.

by axl t on Dec 21, 2009 11:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Love this site

I haven’t been on this site for a while…….but you guys are true to form. I love reading everyones comments and I still have a world of respect for the opinions of Vicious D, Howland and the rest of the crew.

Raps in 7th spot, that’s not bad, considering they have not played or even close to play the type of ball JT and BC expects them to play. But by April believe me, I would not want to be the team to match up with the Raps in the playoffs. This is a very dangerous roaster that the Raps have and it will all come together by the Allstar break. Raps4life baby.

by raps4life on Dec 21, 2009 5:44 PM EST reply actions  

Looking at the positive

5. Miami 13-12
6.Milwauk 12-14
7.Toronto 13-17
8. Detroit 11-16
9.Charlotte 10-16
9.Chicago 10-16
11. NY 10-17
12. Indiana 9-17
13. Wash 8-17
14. Philly 7-20

11 teams within 7 games of each other. And call me a homer but I like our chances in this pack.

All these trade talks are way premature, am amazed at how quickly the trade Jose contingent has grown. Disappointed in our lack of loyalty. Jose has been a great Raptor since day 1.
I do think that if it’s better to the team than he should come off the bench, and he will not hesitate if asked. A good teammate!

Weems, Johnson and DeRozan are bringing what this team has deeply lacked for last few seasons. The exhuberence of youth! Looks like they’re having some fun out there.

by Tinmann on Dec 22, 2009 3:27 PM EST reply actions  

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