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When Bargnani is out-hustling you for plays, you know that something is wrong with your team

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When Bargnani is out-hustling you for plays, you know that something is wrong with your team

In what might have been the easiest Raptors win of the year, the New Jersey Nets showed why they set the NBA record for worst start to a season.  Vicious D, however, takes a pessimistic look at an easy win

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You know, a recap like this should be easy. 

It would go something like "Raptors beat a lousy team 118-95.  It wasn't even close.  Notch one for the good guys."

It's easy to look at this game and say "Ok, this team is now going to play five teams that they should clobber because this Raptors team can at least beat bad teams."

It's easy to go look at the Raptors record after this next stretch and say "Oh, they're only a couple games below .500"

It's easy to say that this team can play defense to win games because they can hold teams under 90 points and that they're doing better because they're doing it more often.

All of that is easy because the Raptors beat the Nets so badly in the first half that they didn't even need to try in the second half.

But all of that is the problem with this Raptors team.  This team often takes the easy way out and looks at itself with rose-coloured glasses when things go well.  This team is the one that features players who forget to go into the paint when they did it so well in the first quarter.  This team will take the easy way out because being behind by 10 points means that it's really hard for the team to come back.  It requires determination, and when this team requires determination, they seem to just implode and say "Ok, let's let our opponents keep scoring so we can get out of here ASAP."

I'm refusing to take the easy way out in this recap.

Fact of the matter is, the Raptors came out of this with a win because New Jersey is a pretty bad team that played a pretty bad game.  Should the Raptors hang their laurels on this game? I'm sure that they aren't, but there are some disturbing signs from even this game.

For instance, discounting the first half for a moment, in the second half, the Nets outscored the Raptors 63-48.  In those quarters, the Raptors did play a lot of bench players.  Nevertheless, the effort in these quarters was largely lacking.  In the third quarter, it was particularly disturbing to see the Raptors starters jack up shots from the field.  When they went cold, the starters seemed to forget about what got them the lead in the first place.  They stopped going to the paint and stopped deferring to DeMar DeRozan; the one player on the starters who was absolutely committed to continue going to the basket.

Then, the Nets started to take the Raptors to task in the paint.  Devin Harris and Brook Lopez kept scoring on the inside and the same lackadaisical Raptors defense was there for everyone to see.  Most of the Nets baskets came from blow-bys, interior passing, and just an unwillingness to protect the paint.  How many times did we see the Nets finish off in a run?  How many other times did we see the Nets cut through Jack, Turkoglu, and Bosh all in one play to the rim?  Heck, how did Brook Lopez not pick up any more fouls for the entire second half after getting three limiting fouls in the first?

Meanwhile, Matt Devlin and Jack Armstrong were busy talking about how the Raptors had played good defense by holding the Nets to just 33 points at the half.

But let's not just stay negative.

There are positives coming from today's game, and those largely have to do with that "hustle group" that we've seen on the floor.  I'm talking of course about the close knit group of Amir Johnson, Marco Belinelli, Sonny Weems, and DeMar DeRozan.  All of these players gave some kind of hustle on the floor that kept extending the lead throughout the game.  It's these players that seem to have developed a chemistry that even the starters haven't been able to find.  It's not surprising either that they're the hardest working bunch, night in, night out.  And even Belinelli, who had a pretty horrendous shooting night still kept his hands active and managed to grab two steals and multiple deflections.

Oh, and the Toronto crowd loves them too because if there's one thing Torontonians love, it's a hard worker.

A long time ago, I was told a simple truth about life.  The truth was that the right decision and the right thing to do is often the hard path, while the easy path is often the one most treaded and the one that never produces growth.  For 29 games now, this Raptors team has shown a propensity to take the easy path far too often.  When faced with the need to dig deep, to attack and keep a game close, or to get that one stop, this team just doesn't seem to have it.  The only wins this team seems to be interested in are blowouts and that's not the mark of any championship competitor.  Problem is, we may very well have four blowouts in the next four games.

In the next few games, the Raptors should display some ability to put away some teams and pad the stats of some of their players.  These games will allow the Raptors to showcase some pieces and hopefully entice other general managers.  The fact is, the Raptors will have a window of opportunity to showcase players and make changes before things get desperate. 

I just wonder if anyone in this organization has the fortitude to take the hard path.

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espn member ?

They are reporting a rumoured blockbuster involving A.Randolph,does anybody have a membership ?

by d279 on Dec 19, 2009 8:39 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

It’s nothing. Just that the Warriors want to rid themselves of him because he’s wanting 60M and they are looking to package him with Corey Maggette.

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious

by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Dec 19, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Banks

I hope his critics can finally shut up now. The guy isn’t half bad, its his contract that people focus on forgetting that he can play a little. Happy to see him get a run and do fairly well with the chance he’s been given.

by Member29 on Dec 19, 2009 8:47 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yup. And it’s good for us because it’ll mean he has more than a little market value. 4.5mil for a backup PG isn’t tough to trade.

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious

by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Dec 19, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Or...

keep him and trade Calderone! Because like you say 4.5 mil ain’t bad for a back-up PG. That is if you can get someone to take Calderone. At least Banks has shown a commitment to play hard and a committment to play defense. I’ve liked what he has shown when called upon this season.

by MAS11 on Dec 19, 2009 10:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Also a possibility, but I wouldn’t say Banks is a defensive stopper. The Raptors have difficulties keeping people in front of them, especially at point, but the team as a whole can just be attacked at so many different places right now. When your wings and your PG are all prime for blow-bys, that really means a team can pick you apart from everywhere. And to be honest, since Jose has been out, it’s not like this team has been any better on the defensive side.

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious

by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Dec 19, 2009 10:57 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone killed me for my “Is Banks the Key to the Season” piece in the off-season but the truth is, BANKS should be decent enough to hold-down a back-up spot. He plays a very similar style to Jarrett Jack and while he’s not as good a floor general, it still burns me that the Raps are carrying him and paying for two other point guards – neither of whom are clear-cut starting quality.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 19, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Whats our record with Jose out?

by Tinmann on Dec 19, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

4-4

Counting the loss to Atlanta where he re-injured himself and the original win in Chicago when the injury occured.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 19, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t see the next 4 games a cake walk for the Raptors. Like our broadcast crew figures it’s a easy schedule!

NO only 1 game under 500
Detroit not a push over ahead of Them in the standings
Charlotte already kicked the Raps AZZ

I say 1 and 3 record

by Davl on Dec 19, 2009 10:10 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, they all think that, and what I saw with Jersey in the second half scares me still. This Raptors team just seems like it has a glass jaw… If you are able to make some shots, the Raptors’ defense will fold eventually.

Sometimes I think the Raptors’ defensive strategy is to make the team shoot so much that their arms get tired.

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious

by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Dec 19, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If they go 1 and 3 I think you can pretty much put the season to bed.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 19, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol

ya does any knw if colangelo is looking to trade or is he not going to trade what is on hi smind because i havent herd nething of tht nature

by raptors_run_the_show on Dec 19, 2009 10:45 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Last I heard which was I think yesterday, things are quiet because there’s just no talk right now because the season is early. Everyone is looking to unload problem pieces and bad contracts of course, but you won’t find good deals yet.

Basically, it’s like the sales you’re seeing now until boxing day. :p

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious

by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Dec 19, 2009 10:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

A Little Harsh

There have been far too many nights when its been justified to be critical of the Raps this year. Their lack of consistency has been frustrating. However. I do think it is a bit harsh to be critical of last night’s performance. Yes it was the Nets but this is the NBA. They are losing by an average of 10 points a game…we won by 23. Did we really expect to win by 80 when we built up a 40 point lead. When its us getting blown out and we make a late run, we don’t make more out of that than its worth. Last night, we took it to the paint. We controlled the silly turnovers. No I am not reading too much into the win but lets at least enjoy it.

by cmrm123 on Dec 19, 2009 11:13 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yup, I’m being harsh on a team that basically led by 30 points for two and a half quarters, but at the same time, I think we should be aware that this team managed to have a very good night against a very bad team. Underneath it all, the Raptors still did some bad things during this game and they need to be pointed out because they’re what will continue to kill this team in the foreseeable future.

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious

by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Dec 19, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

to add to the point

They also have very good night against very good teams just followed by very bad nights against very bad teams,so the say: “I have finally found the enemy, it is us”

by renato on Dec 19, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Truer words were never spoken Renato – that’s why I always have to look back at this team’s chemistry and wonder if the pieces truly fit. How else can you explain such MASSIVE swings in effort and coordinated play??

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 19, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Adding to that, here’s a list:
Jose Calderon, Chris Bosh, Andrea Bargnani, Jarrett Jack, DeMar DeRozan, Marco Belinelli, Marcus Banks…

Guys that need the ball to remain effective in the game.

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious

by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Dec 19, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with Vicious D, but for my experience (unrelated to Basketball, just risk management experience) such swings are sometimes related to a situation where the margin of errors are slim, meaning, you have a system (team) whose performance relies on too many components playing at their top level simultaneously. That, it must be said, is the result of having your best payer who does not play a dominant position. It used to be you would ave a good team if you had a good play and a good center. Nowadays maybe you need a dominant SG. Toronto has a dominant (and most expensive) player at PF which (historically) is “the wrong position” to allocate money into. As a supporting example I can thing about Utah with Karl Malone.

by renato on Dec 19, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I would agree, except Utah was actually pretty successful. San Antonio would be the one that blows your theory out of the water. But I think more importantly, there aren’t really all that many dominant PF in the league, but there are a ton more dominant SGs out there. It’s just a position where you normally get the most scoring from, hence the name.

However, I don’t think Bosh is a hall of famer like Duncan is, so there is that too.

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious

by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Dec 19, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Quick question

Just wondering, how long do ppl honestly feel like it should take to build chemistry? a full training camp? a quarter of the season? a full season with the same core and coach? I mean.. how long did the hawks stink the heck out of Philips arena, before all their pieces started to grow up and play together? I’m not looking for excuses, but I’m just wondering whether we have distorted expectations especially considering that in the nba, the difference between a contested shot and open jumper is a matter of inches, and the importance of team defence and having everyone do what they’re supposed to do and react like a machine… seems like it is a lot harder than maybe we make it out to be?

by gdon18 on Dec 19, 2009 1:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

There should be an actual improvement, you know? Like the team should be stick together, trying to work hard to out do the other team. They might lose, but the fight has to stay in the dog, so to say. The team still feels like a group that works hard, a bunch of other players that are content to hoist jumpers

The Hawks, are maybe a good example, but they were also a team that wasn’t organized until Mike Bibby came on the scene. It’s not like they had the same cast for 5 years straight, but they needed a galvanizing force on the team to help them become where they are now. Of course, some of the pieces have been around for a long, long time and have some sort of rapport with each other, but at the end of the day, they found pieces that play together in a similar style and forged an identity out of that.

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious

by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Dec 19, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I do not think it is just that

Also the trainers need to understand what is the most effective way to use your players. I would like to see how this team would look like using Chris more as a D and hustling presence, spreading the load on O more. I guess the poor D sometimes is also a result of low touch number from players usually appreciated for their O.

by renato on Dec 19, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not so simple

Haven’t been able to log on in a long time, the site has been glitching…

But I wanted to chime in and I have to wonder why the raps should all of a sudden be a completely different, awesome team regardless of personnel. Meaningful change takes time + luck + confidence + the right tweaks at the right time + a million other small hard to quantify things. Yeah they’re hard to watch but they’re right about where they’re supposed to be considering everything.
Can’t you guys come up with any other contributing factors other than they don’t care?
It’s just not that simple…

by axl t on Dec 19, 2009 4:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

The team is flawed, it is that simple

“Meaningful change takes time + luck + confidence + the right tweaks at the right time + a million other small hard to quantify things. Yeah they’re hard to watch but they’re right about where they’re supposed to be considering everything.”

Not according to BC. Before the season even began he was talking about this team winning 50 games. Apparently he doesn’t share the same oppinion in regards to meaningful change. Plus, in additon to “they just don’t care”, I believe lack of chemstry, missed defensive rotations, lack of toughness and sometines questionable coaching have all been mentioned as contributing factors to why the Raps are where they are this season. Fact is, historically most of these players haven’t achieve a whole lot on there own in the NBA, I don’t think any amount of time together is going to change that. We need a leader, a proper starting point guard and a proper center and a shooting guard who can at least produce on a regular basis.

by Posterized on Dec 20, 2009 9:51 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

tell me wht u guys think

i think we should trade jose calderon first round draft pick for anthony randolph and monta ellis.plus i think colangelo should set up some sort of way to get feedback from the fans because frankly i feel were better gm’s then him

by raptors_run_the_show on Dec 19, 2009 9:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not going to happen. They want to rid themselves of Maggette, not Ellis.

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious

by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Dec 19, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It didn't work with Hedo

So let’s start the “just say no to Magette” campaign a little earlier this season.

by Posterized on Dec 20, 2009 9:53 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I find it funny

GSW are doing much worse than the Raptors and some people here would give their GF away to … get their core???

sorry feeling for “ever rebuild” kind of people

by renato on Dec 20, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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