Game Day Thread - Wizards vs. Raptors
by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Dec 1, 2009 6:45 PM EST
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Washington Wizards at Toronto Raptors, Dec 1, 2009 7:00 PM EST
Washington Wizards vs. Toronto Raptors
December 1, 2009
TV: The Score at 7:00 pm
Well the month of November has come and gone and now the Raptors will need to rebound after a slow start. Tonight the Raps face a Washington Wizards team with issues of their own. Can the Raps take advantage?
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Big one
Sorry, a bit late here thanks to the TTC – hopefully we see an A+ effort from the Raps tonight – they need this one big time!
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 7:12 PM EST reply actions
Conflicted
I’m Conflicted. I’d like a Raps win but hoping for big games from Butler, Jamison and Arenas…I have Washington in the fantasy tourny
by WinnipegRaptorFan on Dec 1, 2009 7:13 PM EST reply actions
Ah the old fantasy debate…
Well, with the way both teams have been playing, Washington’s big 3 can still put up 30 each and Toronto could win.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
Transition D Issues
Rearing their ugly heads early…
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 7:17 PM EST reply actions
Sloppy game so far
But low scoring partly because of it. Jose’s looked more aggressive but hasn’t been able to capitalize.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 7:24 PM EST reply actions
BARGS!!!!
why are you so lame sometimes?!?!?!?!?!?!
Same issues in the first quarter so far – inconsistent play from the Raps on offence, virtually no D.
Luckily the Wiz haven’t exactly been able to take advantage…
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
How’s it going so far?
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious
by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Dec 1, 2009 7:31 PM EST reply actions
Ok I guess…hard to say…down 1 with less than a minute left but both teams are playing pretty poorly.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
Great compare ha ha.
Team is so inconsistent offensively – great to see Bosh taking charge here.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
No kidding
You just can’t say enough about the kid.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
I kind of like this lineup
Hedo, 2 PGs and 2 PFs.
Does Amir get a steal or an Off. Reb. for that play?
Very good
Amir gets into a bit of foul trouble – otherwise I’d start him at the 5 and have Bargs come off the bench. Just a much better fit between Bosh and Amir.
Also – gotta give Bosh a lot of props. Not many PF’s can miss a lay-up like he did, then bounce right back up and cram it. That’s that off-season work paying off.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
Great feed by Hedo
About time we saw some of that and nice cut by Bargs.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 8:04 PM EST reply actions
And another blown “last play” opp.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
Bosh
He’s just playing at another level – 18 in the quarter???
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 8:06 PM EST reply actions
Here comes our defensive stopper
Sonny Weems. Second game in a row Jay has done this. I like Gilbert here.
Shaking head
How many times have the Raps screwed up their last play and had the opponent score to beat the buzzer this year?
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
We really can't afford to have Charlotte become a playoff team...
There’s not enough room for all of us.
Luckily the C's are killing them so far...
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
Halftime Thoughts
First off, we’re watching 2 very bad teams here.
Second – it’s like looking in the mirror. The Wizards jack up as many bombs as Toronto and as many being “ill-advised.”
Third – Where would this team be without Bosh??? He’s been unreal and he needs a lot more help. Jose’s been good – playing at the level I expect each and every night. Andrea’s been ok too.
But after that…
Hedo? Hello? If you’re not going to defend, you AT LEAST need to put up some points! DeRozan has as many shots as him!
On the Wizards side, Jamison being the glue guy for them. You get the feeling watching this group that they’ve got too many spare parts and need to make a trade. Just no chemistry.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 8:15 PM EST reply actions
Former Raptors always kill us. Does Jamison count?
I think Jay thought Marco flopped a couple of times trying to draw a foul (instead of busting back and playing some D), and put Marco on the bench for awhile.
Marco hasn’t played well tonight – just forcing things on offense. With Bosh going so well and running with you, don’t try and go through 3 Wizard defenders yourself…
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
Cruch time here folks...
3rd quarter as the stats show, killing this team lately…
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 8:27 PM EST reply actions
Here come the 3's...
Let’s see if the offence can carry the Raps through this quarter.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 8:29 PM EST reply actions
And...
…wow Washington’s shot selection is terrible…
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 8:30 PM EST reply actions
And...
…wow Arenas looks bad on D.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 8:31 PM EST reply actions
Jose was 5-6 in the first half — exactly the numbers I predicted for the 2d half against PHX. I was just a bit late…
Yep, would have been nice to have those stats Sunday. Hopefully Turk can be a “game late” here too.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
If Bargs is bad on D
Turkgolu is terrible at it
There was one play in the second that had me laughing out loud.
The Wiz rebounded the ball in the paint, went back up with it, missed the shot, tried again, missed, then finally Haywood slammed it down. All the while, Hedo just sorta jumped up and down beside him waving his hands…fantastic D.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
Missing Bosh
That last play was a snapshot of what happens if he goes…Bargs and Hedo both outrebounded by Haywood…
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 8:40 PM EST reply actions
Yep – but lots of empty ones – not too many “Amir-ish” grabs in traffic.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
Jose and Andrea
How often does Jose pass the ball to Bargs off a screen and roll? Jose usually takes that shot instead of passing to an open Andrea rolling towards the rim.
Andrea doesn’t get enough looks on offence. I bet if you looked at the stats you’d see that the vast majority of Andrea’s shots come from trailing a play, or being the last option swinging the ball around the perimeter.
Very few individual one-on-one sets or screen-n-roll options.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
Raps need some bench performance here...
…or else solid nights by Bosh, Bargs and Jose will be for naught.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 8:48 PM EST reply actions
On hold in the office right now.
Wassup guys? Any aggression?
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious
by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Dec 1, 2009 8:49 PM EST reply actions
Not enough
Some from Bosh of course, and Bargs and Jose bringing it tonight…but nothing from the bench really.
Amir with some nice rebounds in traffic, Jack with a few nice drives…but that’s it.
Boykins has had more of an impact.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
A man can dream… A man can dream.
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious
by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Dec 1, 2009 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
There's the boost needed
Big shot by Marco.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 8:55 PM EST reply actions
Blatche seems to have taken a step or two back this year — though I’m basing that entirely on tonight. Not showing very high BBIQ tonight.
He just never has been able to put it all together – he’s like the PF version of Joey Graham.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
I like our chances here
Despite being tight, this game has felt in control all night. I feel pretty confident.
I don’t mind that one, he’s mixing it up pretty well still. Want to see the Raps lock things down here though with a final push…
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
It will be interesting to see
If we go to the Hack-a-Shaq (or Hack-a-Brendan) once Washington’s in the bonus.
Big man triple double
10 FGs, 10 FTs, 10 REBs. CB4 has a good shot at it tonight.
He’s playing so well – I’ve been critical of him in the past but hard to pick holes in his game this year…
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
How’s the 4th starting? Who’s on the court?
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious
by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Dec 1, 2009 9:05 PM EST reply actions
Dogfight
Both these teams have similar weaknesses so I think it will be a close fight ot the end.
Terrible foul by Hedo in a tie game.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
Thnx.
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious
by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Dec 1, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
GREAT REBOUNDING
First Bargs, then Bosh…
…and nice aggressive move by CB4.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 9:08 PM EST reply actions
Aaarrrgh...
Terrible shot selection by Turk.
GIVE THE BALL TO BOSH.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 9:10 PM EST reply actions
lol. He might have been listening to devlin too much
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious
by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Dec 1, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
Offense has stalled
And the D ain’t good enough. Same story, different quarter.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 9:16 PM EST reply actions
And Boykins is pressuring the hell out of the Raps – great decision by Flip to leave him in.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
Who’s on the court?
Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious
by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Dec 1, 2009 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
Think it speaks volumes...
…that Boykins and Haywood were the difference makers down the stretch.
Exact type of gritty guys the Raps don’t have.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 9:23 PM EST reply actions
Big 3 by Jack...
Raps NEED to win this one.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 9:24 PM EST reply actions
Not a great shot chocie by Jack
But man is that ballsy.
HEDO
Oh
My
Lord
That defensive stance might have killed things right there.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 9:25 PM EST reply actions
Wow
Crazy finish.
Missing FT’s, great play by Amir Johnson.
Leo’s right – hustle plays are going to decide this one.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 9:26 PM EST reply actions
Big time
Not a bright spot?
Hedo.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
Stop saying that Leo
He WASN’T huge – he was just on TV a lot so the perception was that he was always making big shots. Statistically he wasn’t even as “clutch” as Bosh or Parker!
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
Here we go...
Doesn’t matter if Earl makes one or two here, Raps need to attack at the other end.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 9:33 PM EST reply actions
Oh Hedo
I hope BC is watching this VERY closely.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 9:35 PM EST reply actions
And to add insult to injury
Hedo makes a clutch shot…
…for pizza.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 9:35 PM EST reply actions
No kidding
Sitting here trying to collect my thoughts after another bad loss on a number of levels.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
Recap
This one’s gonna be fun…I get to explain how Toronto had 3 starts with 20 or more points and yet still lost…
…well…there’s a lot more to it obviously but for a team that couldn’t get consistent offensive production from the starters, to get it and still lose, it’s tough.
Thanks for chatting as always folks, we’ll do it again tomorrow night.
by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Dec 1, 2009 9:46 PM EST reply actions
don't be a hero turk
should be the title of your recap. raps need to forget this myth that Turk is a big time shot maker. He’s got some good skills on O, moves the ball and can put up some points on a good night. That’s it. The money we spent for him is sunk cost, move on and he is what he is. Stop relying on him in crunch time.
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