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Game Day Thread - Miami vs. Toronto

Miami Heat at Toronto Raptors, Nov 20, 2009 7:00 PM EST


 

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Miami Heat vs. Toronto Raptors
November 20, 2009
TV: TSN2 at 7:00 pm

Back at the ACC the Dinos match-up against the Miami Wades. Can the Raps get back on the winning streak? Will someone decide to play defense? Can Andrea Bargnani cause fits for Jermaine O'Neal? What will the crowds reaction be if the Raps give less than a 100% effort?

We will be chatting about these amongst many other issues. Join in and voice your opinion.

Go RAPS!

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Let's Do This!

Excited about tonight’s match – should be a good test for TO.

-Raps at Home
-Hopefully a healthier group
-And hopefully angry about all the “non-defense” talk.

Wade will be a tough cover for DeRozan, but hopefully Bosh is equally difficult for the Miami “bigs.”

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 6:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Let's get started!

Got the pizza ordered….drink in hand….Raps and Heat. Love it!

Dave "Howland" Randell
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Did you go with the Honey glazed??

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Always....

well….hand tossed.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 7:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice – no bird pie?

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 7:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually....

one bird pie. One for me!

Dave "Howland" Randell
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 7:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Looking for Bosh...

to have just a beastly night.

Dave "Howland" Randell
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 7:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I really think...

Wright should be starting. Just saying.

Dave "Howland" Randell
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 7:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Is Wright playing?

(my channel has not connected yet) I thought he was out?

by renato on Nov 20, 2009 7:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ranked 302nd in PER or whatever?

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i was thinking today abt just how lucky DD is to be starting in his first yr. He couldn’t ask for anything more. Tonight I want to see more aggression and confidence from him

by Member29 on Nov 20, 2009 7:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I just don't see much downside...

to having a better defender starting the game

Dave "Howland" Randell
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 7:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Why does it feel like I’m praying a lot about this team… This team is starting to feel like I’m basing a lot of stuff on hope… I hope that DeMar will learn the job, I HOPE that Hedo will attack more. I HOPE the Raptors will slash more. I HOPE Reggie isn’t out for the season

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Nov 20, 2009 7:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah when did you turn so negative Vicious?

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 7:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol. Just cause I hate seeing this team shoot itself in the foot. Still positive about players… Just hating the laziness in their choices

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Nov 20, 2009 7:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah you can't turn into...

a downer….you are captain optimism!

Dave "Howland" Randell
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 7:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol. YAY TEAM.

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Nov 20, 2009 7:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Seems like...

low energy in the building right now

Dave "Howland" Randell
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 7:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

DD

definitely should have had that!

Dave "Howland" Randell
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 7:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

See....

that drives me nuts. Bargs gets so many guys in the air, could draw contact but goes around and then gets a charge. Take contact and three shots from the line!

Dave "Howland" Randell
Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com

by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 7:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He was doing it before. I dunno what’s up

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Nov 20, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bargnani does everything right

just not all the time. Some games not most of the time.

I've been looking at the sky

by Back In Black on Nov 20, 2009 7:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know about that on the defensive end…

But right now, I’m just happy to see a decent start and not a 20 point deficit.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We've seen him play

good defense on big guys, good defense on small guys (Nash), defensive rebounds and blocked shots.

Just not all game long, and sometimes not at all. He can do it – he’s just got to unlock the way to do it consistently. And maybe that’s going to turn out to be a skill he just doesn’t have.

I've been looking at the sky

by Back In Black on Nov 20, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I like his individual defense.

His help D? Still pretty weak…

BUT OH DEMAR!

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 7:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like it is....

going to be all about the complimentary players for the Heat tonight as the Raps are all over Wade.

Dave "Howland" Randell
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 7:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Weems in??? SIIIIIIIIIIIICK

PS – Too many shuffles there by Bosh.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Love it!

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 7:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is Wrught suited up to play?

by renato on Nov 20, 2009 7:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

doesn't look like it.

Dave "Howland" Randell
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

OH MY.

That is all.

Dave "Howland" Randell
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 7:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Beli is going to be the first best 6th man in the by always entering the game as 8th man…… fantastic

by renato on Nov 20, 2009 7:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ha ha – I think by Minutes Played though he’ll be the official 6th.

Let’s see when Jack comes on…

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sorry...

…but that was gawd-aweful D by Bargs on the help there.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 7:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

not understanding this rotation..beli should be first off the bench

by tfulks23 on Nov 20, 2009 7:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wate looks old…….

by renato on Nov 20, 2009 7:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Because he can...

do that!

Dave "Howland" Randell
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Why does Weems always make us look good after we call for him to get in the game? Haha.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sonny can score….

by renato on Nov 20, 2009 7:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I Beasly is a 4 I am too… and I have better hair…..

by renato on Nov 20, 2009 7:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

beli averaging 15 ppg over the last 3 and he is the 9th guy off the bench

by tfulks23 on Nov 20, 2009 7:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Situational – Raps needed rebounding early, then perimeter D.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I must say, it’s open to interpretation. It either speaks well of Triano’s ability as a tactician or an indictment of his coaching.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No, that’s a solid point. But so far I’m hoping Pops’ block there indicates why he was in ahead of Marco.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

are you being sarcastic?

by renato on Nov 20, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not really. Just saying you could question not going to Bellinelli as the 6th man given his recent play. But on the other hand it makes a lot of sense from a strategic point of view.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not at all. I DESPISE the idea of “players need to come off the bench in a particular order.”

I think it should always be at the coach’s discretion as to when they need certain players and the skills they bring.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That being said...

…I also believe in allowing players to get in a rhythm, so know when to expect to get in the game. So I’m not advocating jerking the rotation around every game; but at times, the coach needs to shake things up to get the right match-up etc.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 7:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

if he make it to be the 12th they figure it out he’ll be worth it 2 6th men…

by renato on Nov 20, 2009 7:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The most important thing about tonight's game...

… is that we get a good look at future Raptor Michael Beasley. Sign and trade for Bosh.

(and yes, I’m kidding… kind of)

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 7:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

You have to think....

Weems and Pops got early action because Triano wants to send a message re: defense.

Dave "Howland" Randell
Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com

by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 7:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yep, that’s my thought. Even SUPER early on Amir but he got in foul trouble.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And the message? Try not to suck.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bosh with lots of Jumpers… never a good sign…(historically)

by renato on Nov 20, 2009 7:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nope, like to see him get attacking with no Haslem in the game.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 7:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think he said not that nice

And that there’s another level to come.
and several shirts :)

by PConn on Nov 20, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

is there a way to run off the new comment notification? It is a bitt annoying for game threads..

by renato on Nov 20, 2009 7:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good question

Honestly, I don’t think so but am not sure. Maybe in your settings tab for your account and login info??

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Rant

I hate Rogers
they like to suck as much money as they can but when it comes to caring about its team ( the blue jays) they dont do shit!
/rant

by elpikiman on Nov 20, 2009 7:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

me too

if only where I live allowed satellite………
but i’m planning on moving too.

by elpikiman on Nov 20, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m going to try and go with an antenna because TO gets such good HD signals in the valley here. We’ll see ha ha…

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Work for them, and you get money back :p

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious

by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Nov 20, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

God love Pops.

He does very little that hurts the team.

Dave "Howland" Randell
Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com

by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 7:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Last season

He dribbles that ball and loses it

I've been looking at the sky

by Back In Black on Nov 20, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m shocked he didn’t stick on that Houston squad. I assume that move was motivated by money?

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think a bit but Grange had a good thought recently; for a team that gets every inch out of guys like Landry, the fact that they didn’t keep Pops makes you wonder…

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and no one else picked him up

by Ustation on Nov 20, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Whatever the reason....

happy to have him

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 7:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

There might be one of the reasons…

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed,

Very Jamario Moon!

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dumb foul, but hey — I like the effort so far.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

horrible shot selection but he made it

by tfulks23 on Nov 20, 2009 7:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Man...

just thinking about how the Raps can’t lose this game. Other than Wade this team is really bad.

The Raps have too much firepower.

Dave "Howland" Randell
Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com

by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 7:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This is not a playoff team without Wade. He wills this group of scrubs into the playoff picture.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

bad enough for a 7-4 start? And beating Nuggetts and losing to the spurs by 2?

by Ustation on Nov 20, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

nice to see Arroyo back.. I still remember that game TJ ran around him at will and essentially ended his previous NBA career.

by Ustation on Nov 20, 2009 7:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Damn! I totally forgot about that!

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently...

… the Raptors audience is heavy on the erectile dysfunction set. The Viagra commercials are possibly worse than the Bargnani pasta commercial.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 7:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Besides....

who doesn’t like antiquing!

Dave "Howland" Randell
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The worst is still the car commercial using the Mambo Number 5 jingle.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

WOW

So impressed by Bellz.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 7:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

me too

what was WS thinking?

by elpikiman on Nov 20, 2009 7:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Big Chucky? Big Belli? We need a good nic for him.

by Ustation on Nov 20, 2009 7:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Chucker!

He’s making a play for the backup PG role now as well.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 7:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great vision, and great hands by Amir.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 7:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you beated me to it

by renato on Nov 20, 2009 7:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He’s already a steal for the Raptors at the price of Devean George. If he has the play making in his game, this is next level stuff for Belinelli. Love to see this!

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Has JJ just made redundant?

ps they are getting the accent worng, it is stéfano

by renato on Nov 20, 2009 7:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

NICE! Love the accent correction. Drives me nuts when they do these random accents!

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 7:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice to see the pace pick up

they were playing at Miami’s pace…the Raps need to keep running.

Dave "Howland" Randell
Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com

by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 7:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I said last game he should be given spot minutes at pg

by tfulks23 on Nov 20, 2009 7:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’m starting to agree.

Then again, I also think Jack has been playing like Roko.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It seems like Belli

Will pass if he sees a better scoring chance than the one he’s got… he just really likes the one he’s got…

Honestly I love the aggression.

I've been looking at the sky

by Back In Black on Nov 20, 2009 7:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That’s a huge point. He’s the one guy on this team I find besides Weems at times that attacks from the back-court.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How has JO looked?

by Ustation on Nov 20, 2009 7:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Similar...

to last season.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ok…same old same old. Good rebounding, solid D, a bit brickish on O.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He’s always been a crappy shooter for a big.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I always thought of him as a slightly above avg shooter for a big.. but then again.. I had him for 4 years on my Fantasy teams and well… He kept costing me a win.

by Ustation on Nov 20, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

There’s no way he ever helped your FG%, if you were playing head-to-head or roto.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Why would you sag on Wade?

by Ustation on Nov 20, 2009 7:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Broadcasters comparing Bargs to Moses Malone after that last O board and finish. Let’s not get too crazy! Haha.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 7:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Bargs...

padding the stats!

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 7:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

there is always a caveat :) haha

by renato on Nov 20, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

nice seeing JJ doing something right, let’s hope he’s getting some confidence back

by renato on Nov 20, 2009 7:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jarrett Jack...

the D and the O!

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Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com

by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 7:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Let’s keep our fingers crossed that this is the breakout game for Jack.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yup, I believe he is being made redundant by Beli’s play, but whatever his future is going to be, it is a pity seeing a player playing below his own level

by renato on Nov 20, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the raps have 16 assists and the heat have 5 and 9 raps have scored compared to the 6 for the heat

by tfulks23 on Nov 20, 2009 8:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

As I mentioned in the preview...

the Raps are so much deeper and have to take advantage of that.

Dave "Howland" Randell
Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com

by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

oh man.. what a big filipino week.. Pac Man, Vera, and Spolstra. Where did all these flips come from?

by Ustation on Nov 20, 2009 8:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Again Wow

So great to see that aggression.

I can’t even explain the upgrade off the bench with Bellz and Amir.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 8:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I honestly had my doubts about Belli.. but he’s proven me wrong.

by Ustation on Nov 20, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Chucker!

A great take drawing the foul as well… so he hits from outside, throws sick passes, and now gets to the basket and finishes… is there nothing this guy can’t do?

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 8:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hey Miami...

….get out the white flags already here.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 8:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Welcome to the 2009-2010 season...

Jarrett Jack!

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Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com

by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 8:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Has Beasley started to cry in this game yet?

by Ustation on Nov 20, 2009 8:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I just started to yell in my living room. Sick play.

Good chemistry between Marco and Amir eh?

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

has anybody looked into Miami calender up till now to explain their record?
ps Beli for starting PG spot? haha

by renato on Nov 20, 2009 8:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

they’ve had an easy sched to date.

by Ustation on Nov 20, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, and they live and die with Wade. He’s been quiet so far so we’ll see here.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No Beni is hot and cold calderon is consistent and actually passes.

Toronto Maple Leafs: Bringin' The Pain Since 2009

by LeafFan1989 on Nov 20, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Beli and Amir

do they understand each other or what???

by elpikiman on Nov 20, 2009 8:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ebony and Ivory
live together in perfect harmony
side by side on my piano….

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

..or side by side on my court, it would seem.

by Simon M on Nov 20, 2009 8:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

OHHH MY GOODNESS!!!

by tfulks23 on Nov 20, 2009 8:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

So yeah, this has the feeling of a rather lopsided win...

… I don’t think I’m going out on a limb with that call after Amir’s shot

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 8:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

what do you mean?

by renato on Nov 20, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I mean when Amir Johnson is hitting circus shots and they’re up big already, this has the feeling of a big win for the Raps!

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No offense on the Heat but...

I think our 2nd team can beat them without our starting playing big minutes

by elpikiman on Nov 20, 2009 8:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

the pgs for the heat have 1 assist and beli has 4

by tfulks23 on Nov 20, 2009 8:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Chooo Can Doooo It!!

by Ustation on Nov 20, 2009 8:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Be careful of the blow out talks… Isn’t anyone in here a Leaf fan? :)

by Ustation on Nov 20, 2009 8:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

not here!

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Amen to that

Toronto Maple Leafs: Bringin' The Pain Since 2009

by LeafFan1989 on Nov 20, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not a Leaf fan or hater. But that was funny as hell to see what happened last night though!

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They got screwed by the refs TWICE.

Toronto Maple Leafs: Bringin' The Pain Since 2009

by LeafFan1989 on Nov 20, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Up 3 and lost.. scored a goal with 1 min to go, then Canes score with 2 seconds to go… lose in shoot out

by Ustation on Nov 20, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

WHAAAAAAAAT?

Both for your statement, and that Hedo shot ha ha.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I absolutely hate the lineup with jack and jose playing together

by tfulks23 on Nov 20, 2009 8:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Me too.

And statistically it’s their worst defensive pairing.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

plus it takes minutes from beli weems and DD

by tfulks23 on Nov 20, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Great play by Bargs

Called for the Ball, demanded the shot, got fouled…no call.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 8:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I really like that high low play…. causes huge mismatches against slower bigs.

by Ustation on Nov 20, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe....

just maybe this team could use Iverson….

Dave "Howland" Randell
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 8:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

You mean the Raptors, right?

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmmm...

no

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Haha. Yeah, that was obvious.

You know when the Knicks and to a lesser extent the Heat have no use for you, your career is over.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

gooble gooble.. the turk

by Ustation on Nov 20, 2009 8:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

umm that should be gobble gobble I guess.

by Ustation on Nov 20, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey.. could we all do that at games When the Turk makes one??

by Ustation on Nov 20, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Mr. Second Quarter!

I've been looking at the sky

by Back In Black on Nov 20, 2009 8:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Comment of the night! Haha.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

everything going right this evening…

by renato on Nov 20, 2009 8:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hedo

We could’ve used that shot against Phoenix…

I’m just sayin’

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 8:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Shoe is on the other foot tonight...

Must be nice to go into the locker room up 20 instead of down!

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 8:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Repeat after me: if the shots stop falling in the 2nd half, we must take it inside… if the shots stop falling in the 2nd half, we must take it inside… if the shots stop falling in the 2nd half, we must take it inside… if the shots stop falling in the 2nd half, we must take it inside…

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Man… DD does have some VCesque qualities.

by Ustation on Nov 20, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Did Miami have an easier schedule to justify such a good record? I could not watch the game against the Grizzl but up till now they seem to be the easier opponed the Raps plaid against…

by renato on Nov 20, 2009 8:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

They had an easy sched: Griz, Wiz, Bulls.
But they beat the Nuggets, were competitive against Clev till 4th Q and lost to Spurs by 2.

by Ustation on Nov 20, 2009 8:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Heat are one of the most overrated teams in the league.

Now granted they’re missing Quentin Richardson tonight (don’t laugh, he’s been playing really well and is all their offense outside of Wade and Beasley) and Haslem, who always plays Bosh tough, but I still think the Raps would beat them.

Oh my lord, Raps shooting almost SEVENTY PERCENT??? That’s UNHEARD OF!

Well…unless you’re playing Toronto…

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 8:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That last line made me spit out my drink laughing… my laptop thanks you!

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bahh.. I’m getting play by play twittering from a buddy in the plats tonight.

by Ustation on Nov 20, 2009 8:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That shot was deserving of a Chuck-ism.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This is the type of game that deserves a Greek feast and some beers at my place!

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Orlando-Bos 20-8……

by renato on Nov 20, 2009 8:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ok gobble gobble boys… I gotta go hit on this Blonde tonight at the Fox and Fiddle. Hopefully nothing too exciting happens for the rest of the night. .. Well.. except for me. :))

by Ustation on Nov 20, 2009 8:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah.. don’t forget to check out the Magic vs Celts game tonight. So far Rashard Lewis is killing Celts.

by Ustation on Nov 20, 2009 8:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Bargnani on Italian TV_ I have spent my teenagers yers shooting,, before going to school and till the evening. My Coach was getting upset if I was shooting from down low, they wanted me to just shoot. So when they say that is a talent he is born with, they have no clue what they are takling about…

by renato on Nov 20, 2009 8:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nobody can be a born shooter. I mean, you can have the raw talent — but to be able to shoot at the level of a Bargnani, that’s like 10,000 hours / Malcolm Gladwell “outliers” type stuff.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 8:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You and I are on the same page tonight

I’ll say this about Andrea.

As much as I get annoyed by his D, I just stopped commenting for about 5 minutes there, completely mesmerized by his offensive array. If he could JUST put it together consistently.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ok just got back, what’s i miss. Who’s hot and Who’s not.

by Member29 on Nov 20, 2009 8:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

reading through the posts and watching the score i guess its a safe bet to say the Raptors r hot and the heat ironically are not?

by Member29 on Nov 20, 2009 8:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

well, Wade is cooking…

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Very fitting analogy ha ha.

Miami just doesn’t have the offense to stick in this game.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And that’s about it. Beasley with a few looks now and again.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Working Link?

does anyone have a working link for the game?

by Member29 on Nov 20, 2009 8:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Check the earlier posts. Not sure if those are still working?

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the ones above didn’t for me so ill follow alonghere

by Member29 on Nov 20, 2009 8:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Just tried a bunch and all seem blocked, booooo.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In hindsight....

I really think Triano going with Weems and Pops off the bench first set the tone.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 8:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

they seem to be doing a much a better job of shutting the links down on the quick. I haven’t been able to watch a full game in a while…I hate rogers though!!! don’t want to have to pay them bitches money. might have to though.

by vicPapa on Nov 20, 2009 8:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Um...

DeRozan just got SCHOOLED.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 8:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Education....

DD meet Mr. Wade.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 8:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

But

I like that DeMar tried to go right back at him.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Huh?

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

thx for the link

by Member29 on Nov 20, 2009 8:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Man, if they blow this one… what an epic fail…

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 8:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Don't think that way!

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 8:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Liked the dive on the floor by Bosh, time to step up the intensity.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Love that effort...

by the franchise player.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 8:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

And he wins the tip! Nice.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

AND

He immediately attacks the basket. Great sequence.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ride Bosh Here

Like the fact that the team is going inside. If he starts getting tripled, let the long-range guns go off.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 8:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Um

I don’t even know what to say about that crossover.

Worst ever?

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 8:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

WHat is surprising about this come back...

is the time when it is happening….bench players.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 9:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

jack SUCKS

by Gerry71 on Nov 20, 2009 9:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Man I hate this two-guard line-up.

I THOUGHT TRIANO LEARNED!

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

JJ and JC again.

by Simon M on Nov 20, 2009 9:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

At what point do I turn this off in disgust?

They’re barely clinging to a huge lead, and now we have the glorious Jack/Calderon backcourt on the floor.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It’s times like this when I WANT the Raps to lose. No excuse. Boo away fans, boo away.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This goes back to my third key....

CONSISTENT EFFORT. It just is not there.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 9:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This team shows flashes… but pulling that together over a full game is just a completely different animal.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I just don’t understand why you’d go away from what was working and keep this insane Jack and Jose experiment going. Maybe the Hedo fourth foul was a blessing in disguise.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bosh/Bargnani AND Jack/Calderon on the floor. Just a terrible, terrible lineup combo…

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

JJ and JC, what’s going on?

by Gerry71 on Nov 20, 2009 9:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This is why you hear the cliche...

DEFENCE wins championships! No one is ever going to win with offence alone.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

it is true.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

zzzz

Get Jack the f*** out of there!

by Simon M on Nov 20, 2009 9:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This is just torture. Howland, I’m sorry you have to write this recap.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed,

I always seem to get the stinkers.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Exhibit A: Arroyo blows by Calderon with minimal effort and then Bosh is forced to work his ass off defending the basket at the risk of picking up an unnecessary foul. Just terrible.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

AGAIN!

100 per cent Jose’s fault there…

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 9:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Look at that replay!

WHAT THE HELL IS JOSE DOING??? WHERE IS HE? WHY IS HE JUST HALFWAY IN BETWEEN THE TWO PLAYERS?

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 9:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If the second unit keeps MIA in the game, D Wade is going to bring this thing home… it’s like watching a trainwreck in slow motion!

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

And heaven forbid we go back to Weems or Pops — it’s not like they helped us get off to a great start…

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I know....

I don’t get it. They need to get up 10 before Wade comes back.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That’s all Wade needs, a 5 or 6 point deficit going into the final minutes.

I still can’t get over that defence by Jose.

And now Anthony and Shavlik Randolph are pounding the glass!

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This needs to be a full blog post.

I just don’t get it. Even if you don’t believe the stats which say it, look at the proof on the court tonight!

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Belinelli? Anyone?

Bueller? Bueller?

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

WHen Carmen...

was in Egypt Land….

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I can't remember who it was....

but when the Raps signed Jack they were arguing how we should play him at the 2…..yeah….where’s that guy now….

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 9:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

And now we have DeRozan on Wade. Awesome!

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

AND

Here’s proof of Bargs’ issues for all those “Andrea just needs more time” folks regarding his D and rebounding. Had Andrea got that last board over Anthony, that Wade basket doesn’t happen.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 9:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Let's see...

if Hedo can be Mr. 4th quarter now…..

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 9:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I like how Jarrett Jack pulled the “Zach Randolph” crossover on Arroyo and almost turned it over…

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I like Triano...

…but this one is blowing my mind.

Even with that shot by Jack.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 9:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Look.....

Jack has had his best game yet. He just shouldn’t play with Jose. Of course someone thought that was a bad idea a LONG time ago….ahem…..ahem….

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 9:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

For those of you watching on TSN2...

… our announcing team of Devlin and Armstrong have entered Celtics/Bulls announcer territory (and if you have no idea what I mean by that, it’s NOT a good thing)

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

By the way

Hillarious discussion going on Twitter right now. A bunch of us have started a “icangetbyjose” thread.

So far we’ve determined that you can blow by him if:

-you’re wearing roller skates
-in a pool of water
-have cement shoes on
-are barefoot
-are barefoot walking on glass like Bruce Willis in Diehard
-have legs stuck in quicksand
-have no legs

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 9:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

three legged elephant?

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oscar the Grouch....

while still in the can?

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

While two weeks into recovery from a double leg amputation…

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

bosh is having a good season, yet he seems to disappear in games. He NEEDS to make a statement in this fourth quarter, NOW.

by Gerry71 on Nov 20, 2009 9:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If Hedo...

doesn’t step up then why are we paying him?

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

on cue….

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

…aaaand then the Raps give it away.

by Simon M on Nov 20, 2009 9:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

There it is ;)

by Simon M on Nov 20, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

This is just unreal.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’d like to see a little more Bosh too…

…and A LOT LESS JACK AND JOSE.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 9:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So let me get this straight: We’re in the 4th quarter with less than 6 mins remaining, and we haven’t used what is statistically our BEST lineup (starters with Belinelli in place of DeRozan)

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Triano....

you lost me tonight….

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 9:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Man, just thinking the same thing!

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My opinion of Jay Triano’s coaching ability has taken a colossal hit tonight.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Man...

Even if they pull this out, it’s gonna be the kinda win where you get yelled at by your coach afterwards.

Not that the coach doesn’t bear a good amount of the blame in this case.

by Simon M on Nov 20, 2009 9:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The guy who I think should have been in the game,.....

Weems….for Calderon.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 9:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If we lose this one goes on jay..how does beli not play in the 4th

by tfulks23 on Nov 20, 2009 9:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I have no idea what Triano is thinking right now. Belinelli was brilliant in the 1st half.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

100% Agree

They keep talking about turnovers and I want to scream, LOOK AT THE BALLHANDLERS!

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

turning the ball over with a TWO PG lineup! this is nuts!

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and they come back out with jack and jose..is triano retarded

by tfulks23 on Nov 20, 2009 9:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Weird thing is, I still think Toronto wins, but just barely.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously, even with a win here, some serious red flags are flying right now…

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

And

When you blow things like that, suddenly a simply play like a lane violation is HUGE.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Big SHot!

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 9:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

With this lineup, they basically have to outshoot the Heat the rest of the way… there will be no key defensive stops… the minute they go cold, the game is lost…

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ll mago BABY!!!

by tfulks23 on Nov 20, 2009 9:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Actually didn’t mind that one either. In rhythm and open off a ball swing.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I am hoping.....

we get a little gobble….gobble…shortly.

Hello Hedo?!

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 9:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

A foul on Bosh because Calderon is playing D like a toddler…

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jack with the 3

But sorry, in a close game that was a f-ing TERRIBLE idea….

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed – that’s the thing, if you miss that one the Heat run it down your throat. Let’s see some more interior play.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 9:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly — it’s basically a turnover off the miss because you know the Raps aren’t rebounding!

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

AND THATS THE GAME!!!

by tfulks23 on Nov 20, 2009 9:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jarrett Jack!

YES PLEASE (although I questioned Bargs making the extra pass when it happened)

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 9:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great to see

Bargs with a VERY unselfish pass and Jack rewards him by dropping the triple. Just hope this gets Jack going now.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 9:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I am with Defensive Stance....

the commentary is really really bad tonight.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 9:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Just too much Kool-Aid drinking, and not enough critical analysis.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The 10-2 run is nice

I mean, great to see them finish up strong — but this game is Red Flag City (population Jay Triano).

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

OK, that’s Jack’s spot, apparently.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

ITS THE THIRD QUARTER?

by tfulks23 on Nov 20, 2009 9:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Haha. I caught that too. Devlin is not exactly on point tonight.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

still upset with Jay

what did Beli, Amir and Pops do wrong???

by staylor on Nov 20, 2009 9:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nothing

Apparently they were playing too well.

I’ll say this, if this was an attempt for Jack to play through things at the team’s expense…AND he now takes off, Jay is a genius.

However…

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BUT, he should’ve been playing through things with Jose on the bench and Belinelli or Weems running with him in the backcourt.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My thoughts...

exactly.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No for sure. I just don’t get it.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They played well in limited minutes, apparently. Triano had the under and didn’t want to screw it up.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

WHy was BC....

wagging his finger like Mutumbo?

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 9:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If he busts out the Cookie Monster voice post game, I’ll be impressed.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sad thing is

Wade can make up 7 points here…

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 9:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Must be Tough to be JO in some ways

He’s still there mentally, but physically he just can’t do what he used to. He’s looking at Bosh thinking “that was me only a few years ago!”

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 9:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

jay gets a break cause we won but that was a horrible rotation tonight

by tfulks23 on Nov 20, 2009 9:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

GREAT BLOW-BY

Wow…the more I focus on Jose, the more I worry.

In any event, Raps get the win, but a shaky one for sure.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 9:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Is there such a thing....

as a disappointing win?

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 20, 2009 9:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This would be it. I feel dirty after watching that.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

A win's a win but...

If this had been about 15 other teams they were playing tonight, maybe more, this would have been an L in my books.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

OK, so the positives:
- the first half
- Belinelli off the bench
- 4 and 1 at home, so they’re defending home court
- great “box score” numbers by the key players
- Jarrett Jack breaks out

The negatives:
- Jay Triano’s inexplicable 2nd half rotation
- the Calderon/Jack backcourt
- Calderon’s perimeter D (which doesn’t exist… AT ALL)

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I've got nothing to add here...

Another big one Sunday folks, I’m signing off to do the rapid recap…

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 20, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hey, DS, lets hear some love for Bargs! 24 pts, 10 rebs – ill take that average!

by Gerry71 on Nov 20, 2009 9:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He definitely had a pretty good line tonight. I’ll take 10 boards from the big fella. And the two blocks were good as well.

Backcourt and the rotation was a HUGE issue tonight.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 20, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

we're still

getting bits and pieces from players (like jack tonight) but we haven’t seen it all come together on a consistent basis. hopefully that’s going to come.

and yeah, jose’s d is just simply…wow. with him and bargs on the floor it’s going to be a battle most nights to get stops. no doubt.

by vicPapa on Nov 20, 2009 9:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

also interesting to see rasho regular DNP. Ha she regressed that much? Really?

by Gerry71 on Nov 20, 2009 9:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yes he has

But we will need him and his 6 fouls on sunday. Hopefully, after that O’Bryant goes inactive where he belongs, and either Wright or (Carlton) Banks come back.

by PConn on Nov 20, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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