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Toronto Raptors at Denver Nuggets, Nov 17, 2009 9:00 PM EST


 

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Toronto Raptors vs. Denver Nuggets
November 17, 2009
TV: TSN at 9:00 pm

Having lost in Phoenix the Raps look to grab a victory in the Mile High City. It will be a tough match-up and the Raps will need to bring some defensive intensity against the likes of Billups, Smith and Carmello. Can the Raps steal a win from this Western Conference contender?

From the opening tip to the last second the HQ will be live-blogging through out the game.

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Tip in 15 and if you’ve been MIA from Raps news today, well Pops is back, and apparently going to be in the line-up tonight.

The Pops re-signing is a bit of a puzzler though to me, something I’ll be blogging about tomorrow morning. Yes, the team has rebounding issues but unless we’re going to see Pops at the 3, or Johnson there, not sure how he’s going to get minutes. With the on and off Wright injury issues, I’m curious as to why BC didn’t look at adding another swingman.

Anyways, should be a tough one tonight – key focus will be on Hedo trying to guard Melo and Bargs on Nene…

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 8:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Update

And on the Hedo note – he’s apparently out and Wright is in.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wright contained Melo last year with Dallas

Except he couldn’t make clutch fouls.

"I always believe there's a reason why you go through everything." -John Elway

by LACK on Nov 17, 2009 8:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, should be a tough test – might need to run Amir Johnson on Melo a bit tonight for some size.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Pops

I love the move. Having these energy guys is such a plus. I am not sure this team needs another 3 with Wright, Hedo and Weems able to play there.

Pops has upside…..more than can be said for O’Bryant or Douby. Think the preseason game where he destroyed the Raps left a bad memory in BC’s mind?

Dave "Howland" Randell
Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com

by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 9:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tough start

Can’t let Nene get deep position all night.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 9:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tough look for Bosh...

but man is he in the zone so far this season…

Dave "Howland" Randell
Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com

by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 9:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Solid defense....

by the Raps there…..in particular Bargs preventing Billups from getting to the rack

Dave "Howland" Randell
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 9:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good D to start

Raps look calm and focused so far at that end.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 9:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

bzzz.....

Dave "Howland" Randell
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wright....

going one on one with Melo?

I think there are better options out there.

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Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com

by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 9:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

They are taking it....

to Bargs. Nene is just a beast….and there is the second foul on Bargs….

great strategy by Karl.

Dave "Howland" Randell
Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com

by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 9:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

DD

Catch the feeling!!!

Dave "Howland" Randell
Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com

by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 9:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Comin’ to you LIVE from ROGERS :p

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Nov 17, 2009 9:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Game day feed...

sponsored by ROgers?!

Dave "Howland" Randell
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, most of the ACC… I have to see that logo EVERYWHERE now

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Nov 17, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Welcome Mr. Vicious.

Great start by Toronto – don’t even know what to say here, best I’ve seen them look at both ends so far this season to start a game.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good to hear. See if they have it for the long run considering the air..

Must be the POPS effect :p

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Nov 17, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

WOW

Couldn’t ask for a better start here.

Active D and great looking offence.

Dave "Howland" Randell
Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com

by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 9:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great start to the game so far!

by Frag on Nov 17, 2009 9:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

though

it’s been mostly all jumpers on offense…we all know how that runs out when you need it

by vicPapa on Nov 17, 2009 9:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

true....

but nothing forced and hitting the open look. Can’t really argue with that right now.

Dave "Howland" Randell
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Um...

Maybe only one of us needs to post tonight ha ha – sharing a brain here.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What I like though is that they aren’t forced, simply open looks off of good ball movement.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

think....

we are on the same page?

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

wright

could please stop shooting though…that would be nice

by vicPapa on Nov 17, 2009 9:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

weems

on the early bird call!

by vicPapa on Nov 17, 2009 9:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good opportunity....

for Weems tonight. Let’s see of he can step up.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 9:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Here's the difference....

the shots early were from good ball movement. Belinelli’s…..not so much and a really bad result.

Fade-away three’s are for late in the shot clock situations only….unless you are Lebron

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 9:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

MY GOD

What is Belinelli doing?! Another fade away AIRBALL?

Dave "Howland" Randell
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 9:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Um...

What was THAT Marco ha ha? Classic chuck.

Don’t like this line-up from an offensive perspective.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 9:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

only thing worse than a fade away 3 is a fade away 2 air ball…

by vicPapa on Nov 17, 2009 9:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I like it from a legs perspective....

but from a flow perspective it can be hard to keep things going….bit of a catch 22….

Dave "Howland" Randell
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Weems

pretty good leaper…..

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 9:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well....

good thing for the fast start. Can’t argue with being up by one but the momentum is clearly in the Nuggets favour.

If the team had started slow as they have a lot lately this wouldn’t have been a game.

Dave "Howland" Randell
Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com

by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 9:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

weems

actually looked good on defense that last possession…might see some burn from the kid tonight if he keeps that up

by vicPapa on Nov 17, 2009 9:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He’s always been tenacious and aggressive… Uh… Sounds like JYD i know…

Kinnon "Vicious D" Yee
Author - RaptorsHQ.com Twitter @RapHQVicious

by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Nov 17, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

JR Smith...

is a weapon.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 9:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

JR Smith

Such a tough cover because he’ll shoot it from halfcourt, but is athletic enough to take it to the cup.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 9:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Now that...

is attacking the rim!!! Well done Bargs! AND CONTACT!

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 9:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

BARGS

Great play – want to see more of that now.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 9:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

that was vicious

by vicPapa on Nov 17, 2009 9:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jack

Jeesh his ball-handling makes me nervous! But he made the right play the last two possessions.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 9:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

One thing about Belinelli....

he’s not shy and definitely has a shooter mentality.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 9:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

jesus

that kid has no conscious.

by vicPapa on Nov 17, 2009 9:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Just turned on the game in time to see Bargnani throw down on the Birdman. That’s the first time I’ve gotten out of my seat and yelled after a Bargs play! Haha.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 9:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hey

Sounds like we are holding our own, despite some brain farts.

by Posterized on Nov 17, 2009 9:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Bargs dunked on the Birdman ...

I think a nickname is in order for Bargs. I will start with the “Ostrich”.

Ray Bala
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by rbala on Nov 17, 2009 9:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Belinelli vs. Smith

Take cover because they are bombing from the outside!

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 9:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

belli

and smith seem to be canceling each other out

by vicPapa on Nov 17, 2009 9:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

So much love for the Chucker! At no point does he ever think “maybe I should make the extra pass”.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 9:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Disagree with Jack there

Didn’t think it was necessarily a bad shot, he was going to the rim. And loved that he hustled for the loose ball.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 9:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

completely agree

plus the birdman was flying there.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Weems just plays smart

Really like his IQ on the court.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 9:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

What's Weems been doing so far?

I liked that drive and kiss off the glass.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 9:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nothing crazy, just giving the team some nice minutes. JR Smith is en fuego though.

Oh wait…and Weems with that out of nowhere turn-around…

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

More fuel for the FREE SONNY WEEMS movement!

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

what a refreshing view after being put toshape lastyear

by renato on Nov 17, 2009 9:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i was just abt to say the same thing. Now this is basketball. Good job BC good job

by Member29 on Nov 17, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Who's been guarding Melo

Dude’s already got 16 points!!!

by Posterized on Nov 17, 2009 9:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Like to see them switch Weems onto him, or Wright.

Wait…looks like Triano’s doing that.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Absolutely no defense being played here….

but it is entertaining.

Dave "Howland" Randell
Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com

by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 9:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Can’t remember so many early Raps games that were this entertaining in a few seasons!

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You can see that with even a mediocre defensive effort, this team could just destroy people… I just don’t see them locking down guys like Melo or JR Smith.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 9:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

finger crossed, with lots new faces one could expect the defense o be the last thing to get fine tuned… maybe best time are ahed?

by renato on Nov 17, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think so… this performance is really dialing up the optimism for me, so far…

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

bosh

sure hasn’t played a lot…

by vicPapa on Nov 17, 2009 9:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The running...

is unexpected but I am loving it! Weems climbing the ladder!!!

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 9:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don’t understand how anyone can watch Weems the last couple of minutes and decide that “hey, this guy belongs in a suit at the end of the bench.”

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He has abilities...

that no-one else on the roster has. He should play.

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Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com

by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And TSN with the Sonny Weems highlight package right on cue… nice…

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

man this team has improved. I almost cant believe how much fun this is.

by Member29 on Nov 17, 2009 9:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

weems

looking real good right now

by vicPapa on Nov 17, 2009 9:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This might not be

fundamental basketball at its best but man….I am loving it from an entertainment point of view

Dave "Howland" Randell
Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com

by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 9:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

not sure

what the boards differential is, but it seems like the raps are hanging in there

by vicPapa on Nov 17, 2009 9:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

pardon me

while I go purchase my Sonny Weems jersey…..

by the stylin' assassin on Nov 17, 2009 9:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I guess they are printing them just now

by renato on Nov 17, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m getting one for each of my kids.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not sure they’ve made that many yet

by the stylin' assassin on Nov 17, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol, im with yah stylin. If Weems can put on some muscle and improve his shot he’d be starting material

by Member29 on Nov 17, 2009 10:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

he just looks so comfortable out there…I love the aggression

by the stylin' assassin on Nov 17, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

One thing

REALLY impressed by the preparation of this team tonight through positions 1 to 10.

DeRozan looking better and better this road trip.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 10:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

actually beyond 10, Turk is sitting out

by renato on Nov 17, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Okay...

everything is going down right now

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 10:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Oh crap

I’ve been out of the loop and just noticed POPS MENSAH-BONSU on the bench!!!

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 10:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, if the guy barely plays, you know he will pick up the effort on the glass in practice.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, I love Pops, but whose minutes does he take? Amir has earned his burn, and Evans will command minutes when he gets back….when do we play him?

by the stylin' assassin on Nov 17, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think we have to....

he will be a situational player. Better him than Douby.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Better him than Patrick O’Bryant! Oh wait, that scrub is still drawing a pay cheque.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Raps are playing so well....

I totally forgot that Hedo was not playing.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 10:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

a good thing?

I’m just sayin’…

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve been biting my tongue in that regard…

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well, you bite your tongue… I’ll just pour some Haterade on our boy Hedo… haha

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If the boys...

continue to play like this Hedo will have the opportunity to prove his worth in the playoffs.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hey, he's only being payed...

for 4th quarter magic, apparently.

by vicPapa on Nov 17, 2009 10:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If you’re being sarcastic, that’s the comment of the night! Haha.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Why is Donaghy....

calling this game?!

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 10:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

BULLSHIT CALLS by the refs!

by Frag on Nov 17, 2009 10:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Franchise!!!

I just went into our fantasy league to claim Hickson!!!

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 10:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't matter....

who you claim….i am winning

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This is true. If I avoid last place, it’s a moral victory!

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Grabbed him about an hour ago :)

Sorry kids.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll trade you Dampier for him (that’s who I was going to drop to get him). Haha.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hate the Jack and Calderon combo, they accomplish nothing in the back court together

by Member29 on Nov 17, 2009 10:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

if anything, they compound each others weaknesses

by the stylin' assassin on Nov 17, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i agree. it’s total crap

by Sorael on Nov 17, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought they went away from that look (shaking my head).

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hate it too. Just no rhythm.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

eventually triano has got to figure out it’s a bad idea… right?

by Sorael on Nov 17, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think Triano is a smart guy

so I really don’t understand how he figures that pairing a undersized shooting guard who can’t shoot with a point guard who can’t play D is a good idea

by the stylin' assassin on Nov 17, 2009 10:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think Jack probably came here with a certain handshake agreement on minutes, and playing him with Calderon is the only way to get there… I dunno — that’s all I’ve got…

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope that’s not the case…..he got the mid-level. the way he’s played, that’s more than generous

by the stylin' assassin on Nov 17, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

don't get me wrong

I like the signing, I’ve just been disappointed so far

by the stylin' assassin on Nov 17, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, he’s been a huge disappointment. Hopefully he’s not one of those guys who has to start to play well.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The cheat is on!!!

by Ustation on Nov 17, 2009 10:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That....

was a man dunk.

Calderon couldn’t take Nene’s arms off with a chainsaw.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 10:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Defensive stance, pls say something about Chris’ defense….

by renato on Nov 17, 2009 10:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I was waiting for that :)

He’s not exactly protecting the paint.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

me too, but you did not show up :) wink

by renato on Nov 17, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I will be more critical in the 2nd half — I didn’t start watching until the 2nd quarter.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually...

that play was Jack’s fault

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Don’t tell me this team doesn’t still need to go out and find a SF. Look at that line up put there a PG playing SG and a SG playing SF. This line up is way 2 small and weak.

by Member29 on Nov 17, 2009 10:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Totally agree

That’s why the Pops signing makes me scratch my head.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

is ge guarantee for the year? what is his contract?

by renato on Nov 17, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They claimed him on waivers — minimum deal that he signed with Houston. Not sure about guarantees.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

wow.. tough tough shot from AB, who never used to make those!

by Ustation on Nov 17, 2009 10:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

and about Andrea’s ….

by renato on Nov 17, 2009 10:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It was a great block....

on Nene

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I've got Nene on my fantasy team...

…but come on Raps. Get him out of the paint!

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 10:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Melo

He’s been the difference so far along with JR’s shooting.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 10:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

there is no one who can guard carmello. they need to start aggressive double-teaming him.

by Sorael on Nov 17, 2009 10:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

One or two calls we should've got....

We would be leading this one at the half

by Evenflow on Nov 17, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Man, it will be hard to watch the games when the Raptors are playing in the Western Conference. My god this is some up tempo, 1980s NBA we’re watching!

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 10:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

this jack and Calderon mix has got to stop. The line up at the end of the quarter was way to small and weak.

by Member29 on Nov 17, 2009 10:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't say up tempo

more like just bad defense and solid shooting.

by vicPapa on Nov 17, 2009 10:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

not trying to start the bosh vs bargs thing again but this is the second game in a row bargs plus minus has been much better than bosh’s

by tfulks23 on Nov 17, 2009 10:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Plus/minus is one of those ‘take it with a grain of salt’ stats.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

can you really watch bosh and say you’d rather have bargs out there this year?

by Evenflow on Nov 17, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

no but i can say i would rather have a package of players that bosh would be worth and bargs

by tfulks23 on Nov 17, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BTW are we getting Howlald to become a believer based on effort and level of play or do we really need to win this one? I guess this team has proven they can play with anybody, next step will be to proove they are as good as anybody, but the level is elite never the sell

by renato on Nov 17, 2009 10:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

are you serious?

bosh has been a monster. and not the sesame street kind either

by vicPapa on Nov 17, 2009 10:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

C....

is for cookie….

Dave "Howland" Randell
Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com

by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

good enough for me.

by Ustation on Nov 17, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

cookie,,,,

cookie…cookie starts with C.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

nom nom nom nom…

by Ustation on Nov 17, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bargs and Bosh

Comparing these two guys is rediculous.

They are totally different players. I will say this….as solid as Bargs is I don’t think he is a franchise/superstar player which is where Bosh appears to be heading.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 10:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

with the cavet it hsa taken Bosh 6 years to get here…

by renato on Nov 17, 2009 10:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No

No caveat.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 10:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Let's see

who starts fast here…Raps or Nuggets

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 10:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

well, it’s Denver so far…

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

crappy start....

not a good sign

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ellis is available

would ellis & Turiaf for Calderon & Evans make us better?? i know trade talk is anticlimactic but I’m always looking for ways to improve the team. Would anyone do this trade?

by Member29 on Nov 17, 2009 10:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If Monta Ellis was a lock-down defender, I’d be all for it… paging Trevor Ariza…

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Been thinking about Ellis today…he’d be a beautiful fit with this club as someone who can create off the bounce with the clock winding down.

But who do you give up?

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Here's the thing...

Calderon doesn’t force shots on the offensive end and is always looking to create for others. Ellis….not so much.

Not sure I want to deal Evans before I see what he brings night to night

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

true but

the advantage of having a guy like Ellis is you can slide him to SG (which i think is his natural position) and all of a sudden you’ve got a potent scoring threat that can creat for himself and others. Then J Jack gets more minutes at PG and acts as ur true pass first pg. I guess there are pros and cons to both players. I’ve always liked Ellis tho and a mature version of Monta will eventually be a very very good thing doe some nba team out there. I also think he’s got more resale value than JC so even if it doesn’t work out, we’d still be able to get something for him.

by Member29 on Nov 17, 2009 10:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN Trade Machine likes this deal…

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

frick.. hold on to that ball!!!

by Ustation on Nov 17, 2009 10:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i repeat… frick. hold on to that ball!!!

by Ustation on Nov 17, 2009 10:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

thats twice in a row bosh has missed his assignment

by tfulks23 on Nov 17, 2009 10:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

theres one on calderon just for fun

by Evenflow on Nov 17, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

But...

Two great offensive rebounds on the weak side.

Meanwhile…Bargs chilling behind Melo??

To me that’s the major difference between the two. Once I see Andrea outworking guys on the glass, I’ll revisit things.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

are you talking about the same possession? how could Bargs get it?

by renato on Nov 17, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

thats just the difference in effort, you dont see bargs pull 2 off rebs then draw the foul

by Evenflow on Nov 17, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

denver is just too big and physical for the raps.

by Sorael on Nov 17, 2009 10:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

they have yet to lead once…. (sorry, they did for 1 point for 1 second)

by renato on Nov 17, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

seriously

I’ll say it again…he’s turned into a monster this year. gobble gobble

by vicPapa on Nov 17, 2009 10:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

nom nom nom nom…

by Ustation on Nov 17, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

good job not feeding the ball to A when he was guarded by billups…. (ok they did it.. to late…)

by renato on Nov 17, 2009 10:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Melo...

is killing us.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 10:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Just got back

Looks like another blown lead. Or is the score misleading?

by Posterized on Nov 17, 2009 10:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

uh oh.. bosh is settling for the jumpers again.

by Ustation on Nov 17, 2009 10:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

that my friends is a franchise player

by tfulks23 on Nov 17, 2009 10:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He's heating up... HE'S ON FIRE!!!

Melo (with a shout out to the greatest video game ever, NBA Jam). I think Melo is in ‘Big Head’ mode right now.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 10:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yep – I can see the flames coming off the ball right now.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 10:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good Time Out

Team looks tired and out of synch here…

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 10:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

melo is killing us?

wait till jr gets back on the floor

by vicPapa on Nov 17, 2009 10:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I have a feeling, it’s LEgEND time coming up. (not a good thing)

by Ustation on Nov 17, 2009 10:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Looking winded? Thought the 2nd half would be rough.

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Nov 17, 2009 10:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The flow on offense is gone.

by Evenflow on Nov 17, 2009 10:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lovely. Well, I PVR’d it, so I’ll have at least 1/2 a game to watch :p But who knows. I think this team can toss on a really energetic-game changing lineup on the floor if it gets really stagnant

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Nov 17, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And here’s the thing, the Raptors can torch the twine — but when you go cold, you need to recognize what has to be done (take the ball to the basket, get to the line, etc). Raps aren’t quite there yet, which is evident by the amount of jumpers they’re putting up right now.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And Marco with the ‘and 1’ — at least SOMEONE gets it!!!

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Jack Armstong...

is trying to make that Leo Rautins joke funny….but it is not.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 10:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

lets see what our franchise player does during this run

by tfulks23 on Nov 17, 2009 10:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yes we should let Bosh walk and make Weems our next Franchise player.

by Ustation on Nov 17, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s bellinelli were building to the future with now buddy!

by Evenflow on Nov 17, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yes sorry my bad.

by Ustation on Nov 17, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

those are the shots

billups usually makes to break you

by vicPapa on Nov 17, 2009 10:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yep. Liked the last two possesions a lot better on O.

Not that one on D.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

here comes

the belli vs jr show

by vicPapa on Nov 17, 2009 10:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

yup we had a break there… good one by beli…

by renato on Nov 17, 2009 10:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

belli is saving our ass.

by Sorael on Nov 17, 2009 10:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

what a non-call there

by Jevant on Nov 17, 2009 10:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The refs

are horrible!

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 10:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

they’re cheating!

by Ustation on Nov 17, 2009 10:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

And terrible shot by Weems. Go back to Bosh and make the refs make a call.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 10:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

look up belli!

by Ustation on Nov 17, 2009 10:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This feels like a big sequence here

Denver feels like they’re about to blow it open.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 10:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

And theres the easy 3 to get it going.

by Evenflow on Nov 17, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Raptors look like a fatigued team. When guys are leaking out and posterizing your a$$, that’s not a good sign…

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bargs!! Move to the guy.. not away!! $#$$!

by Ustation on Nov 17, 2009 10:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Weems is useful but he’s gotta know his limits. He can hardly hit a 2pter so not sure y he’s unloading 3s

by Member29 on Nov 17, 2009 10:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Exactly – that last take was his game, not 3’s.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wheels....

are shaking…..if it wasn’t for Beli and Weems….

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 10:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Call a time out please Triano

by Jevant on Nov 17, 2009 10:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

There’s some D from Bargs

by Jevant on Nov 17, 2009 10:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Triano...

has had the starters on for WAY TO LONG.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 10:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Jose knew it too, tried to save us.

by Evenflow on Nov 17, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bargnani with the nice block

Renato must be smiling after that one… haha…

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 10:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

no, I have seen that before…. three times just tonight :)

by renato on Nov 17, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

caldy

with that money shot…he’s back

by vicPapa on Nov 17, 2009 10:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Bargs Issues

That last play was the perfect issue I have with Andrea.

You take that 3 early in the clock and then Denver runs out and everyone’s out of position. Bosh has to pick-up Andrea’s man and the ball moves around until Nene takes it right down the hole.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 10:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

it’s all on the 2nd unit now.

by Ustation on Nov 17, 2009 10:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not sure who they're going to go to here...

If Bosh and Bargs sit for Amir and Rasho etc, not sure they’ve got the offense to keep things close with Denver.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 10:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed. They should’ve put a bit more thought into the big man rotation tonight.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

3 of 11 for Bargs

Just has to be better than that.

by Evenflow on Nov 17, 2009 10:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

OH gawd.. I’ve got to walk away from this for a while.

by Ustation on Nov 17, 2009 10:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Why has Calderon rushed it? oxygen level must be low

by renato on Nov 17, 2009 10:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

My neighbours probably think I’m beating my wife.. well if I was married… sigh gotta make some dinner.

by Ustation on Nov 17, 2009 10:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ha! I haven’t eaten supper yet either…might start something up here.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I just got back in from coaching. :P And my ulcers kicking in from all the sport stress. :)

by Ustation on Nov 17, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Arby’s and chocolate ice cream… dinner of champs!

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 11:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

funny.. I just did!!

by Ustation on Nov 17, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Are you endorsing Zantac now, Franchise?

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by Raptors HQ - Vicious D on Nov 17, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

no I’m on it.. and I was recommending it to Franchise because he’s developing new “issues”

by Ustation on Nov 17, 2009 11:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well...

Not out of it yet but they need to draw on some reserves. Tim Chisholm just tweeted “why not use Pops” and I think I’d give it a shot. Just a shot of energy early in the 4th.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 10:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

But we get Patrick O’Bryant. Sweet mother of god… they’ve waived the white flag…

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

melo

can’t and doesn’t play 48. he’s no lebron.

I think bargs is the big x factor right now. he needs to start hitting his shots and he needs to start hitting them right now. it would open up some space for bosh to operate.

by vicPapa on Nov 17, 2009 10:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Lets hope he pulls it off

by Posterized on Nov 17, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Man...

Jameer Nelson now out 4-6 weeks….killing my fantasy squad!

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Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com

by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 11:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Pick up White Chocolate!

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 11:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Trust me....

I did.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Uh oh

Patrick O’Bryant time?

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 11:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Pretty sure....

an O’Bryant sighting means nighty night

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty much over unless they start to fight right after the timeout.

by Evenflow on Nov 17, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

15-point lead

Yep, time to put this one to bed…

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 11:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Man

Everything going in right now for Denver.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 11:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hey did you see that WAGON....

IT"S WHEELS FELL OFF!

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 11:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I was kinda waiting for it.. being in Denver and all..

by Ustation on Nov 17, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, if guys aren’t too tired, they’ve got too many fouls. Tough.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Team ran out of gas...

… and it’s the FIRST night of a back-to-back!!!

Get the starters out and run O’Bryant, Mensah-Bonsu and even Marcus Banks if he’s in uniform.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

how quickly things went out of hand…

by renato on Nov 17, 2009 11:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

not the greatest line up

out there. still time. stime tille. tile tim. tie tie…damn. losing my mind again.

by vicPapa on Nov 17, 2009 11:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

apart from running out of gas, i think we were beateb by a much better team. not to stressed abt it. it was an entertaining loss.

by Member29 on Nov 17, 2009 11:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Still time but totally agree. I talked about it in the preview today but I think this is the most balanced team in the league top to bottom. Them and the Lakers in the West if they get healthy.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 11:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wages of Wins says Portland is the best in the West…

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ahh.. the beeps of the microwave.. time for dinner, and my TV in my solarium doesn’t have TSN2 (luckily for me for tonight). See y’all tomo..

by Ustation on Nov 17, 2009 11:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Denver,,,,

will they score 130?

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 11:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

struggling to score

a guy like Monta Ellis would be helpful here :)

by Member29 on Nov 17, 2009 11:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

gotta think....

defense is the culprit here….

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

To me it’s both sides right now. Fatigue on D, and poor decisions on offense leading to easy transition baskets that Toronto can’t stop.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The fatigue scares me. I mean, what the heck are they going to look like tomorrow night in Utah?

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

our defence tonight was the same as lastnight and the night before and the night before that. The second we stop scoring tho, we’ve got no chance. Hedo’s veteran presence was missed tonight as well.

by Member29 on Nov 17, 2009 11:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hedo would not have helped defensively though.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No, but I think another fresh pair of legs might have helped on both sides.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

Hedo is no use defensively but his intangibles were missed.

by Member29 on Nov 17, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

OK ENOUGH....

all starters on the bench NOW.

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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 17, 2009 11:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yep – winnable game tomorrow night, let’s not see any late injuries here or anything.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m pretty much ready for 6 solid minutes of Sonny Weems and Pops Mensah-Bonsu.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s nice to see Bosh that upset though.

by Evenflow on Nov 17, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hi guys, sorry coming late to the chat, but this has been the worst officiated game I’ve seen this year, not saying it cost the game, but just total BS no calls all night.

by axl t on Nov 17, 2009 11:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Reffing was atrocious. 2 FTA for Bosh? Give me a break.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

After reading the donaghy excerpts where he talks about how they made calls or non calls not to affect a specific basket or play, but to disrupt a player’s/team’s rhythym, it’s just so obvious now how that works. And I’m not saying the fix is in, but if it’s not, then the refs are being unduly partial to the home crowd, the ‘bigger name’ team/players or they’re are just not very good at their jobs. Honestly, tonight felt like the fix was in. The three no-calls in a row in the third followed by a marginal call the other way and the raps gave up. I’m continually amazed that refs don’t get punched in the face during games. I have to say that I’ve been happier than in a long time with reffing so far this season until this game.

by axl t on Nov 17, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

can Pops play SF? We need to find another tru SF, playing Weems and Wright at SF hasn’t worked out.

by Member29 on Nov 17, 2009 11:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Actually, according to the Mavs advanced stats guy, Wright’s best position last season was SF. He was a complete disaster when playing the two.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

that stats guy needs to be fired lol.

by Member29 on Nov 17, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

DeMar

At least DeMar is showing something in garbage time.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 11:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Kind of enjoying this garbage time

Feel like guys like Jack and DeRozan can use all the minutes like this that they can get. Nothing builds confidence like beating up on scrubs…

…and on that note, JOEY GRAHAM!

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 11:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hey, we need another SF, I’m sure he could be pried away lol.

by Evenflow on Nov 17, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm noticing a pattern here...

Raptors play good Western teams (San Antonio, Dallas, Denver…) and they give up 130+

Bring on the Lakers with a healthy Pau Gasol or the Blazers!

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 11:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

POB

Anyone else notice just how bad he is. U’d think he’d make an effore out there so maybe he can get some minutes here and there but my goodnesssss he’s lackadaisical. There’s gotta be another young big out there we can invest this time and money into developing

by Member29 on Nov 17, 2009 11:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Same thing as when we saw him up close in Vegas. I just don’t get it.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I watched him up close during the last game of the season vs. Philly, and ‘soft’ is the perfect word to describe that guy. He’s just getting by on height.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

7'0fter blocked

POB just got his shot blocked, now I’ve seen at all. A seven footer being stuffed.

by Member29 on Nov 17, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

see...

those jumpers stop falling.

by vicPapa on Nov 17, 2009 11:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Woah...

Pops just took out his frustrations for his treatment at the hands of the Rockets.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 11:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

You're cut

Blocked by Petro Canada? Really?

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 11:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Does it matter? He was getting me a can of Coke from the fridge.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Mexican, right?
Actually, I just learned how to count to 12, Pops being our 12th tonight.

by PConn on Nov 17, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ouch

Good question…I actually feel for him. I mean if you don’t get in the game tonight then…well…you’re joining O’Bryant on the unemployment line very soon.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

POB must disappear.
Undortunately, at 2 more years and just under 10 mill left, Banks cannot…

by PConn on Nov 17, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well...

Raps just don’t have the horses to hang with the Nuggets, especially minus Hedo and Evans.

Final score was misleading though, Toronto hung tight through 3 quarters but ran out of gas.

Good chat as usual folks, we’ll be back tomorrow night to do it again.

by RaptorsHQ - Franchise on Nov 17, 2009 11:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Well, that was probably to be expected. The same thing that happens when the Raptors visit Denver every year. But the Dinos did look good for a while.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 17, 2009 11:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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