Tip-In, Toronto Raptors Post Game Report - A Tale of Two Halves
by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 14, 2009 6:00 AM EST
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If you didn't stay up and watch last night's game the score doesn't tell the story...at all. Once trailing by 22 points in the first half the Raptors clawed their way back and grabbed a 104-89 win.
It was a historical comeback. It also left the Clippers fans completely at a loss and they booed their team off the court.
Well talk about a strange game.
The first half? All Cippers and it wasn't pretty.
The first quarter of last night's game was arguably the worst quarter of Raptors basketball this season. Any momentum created against the Bulls in the last game was quick extinguished as the Clippers, or rather Baron Davis and Chris Kaman, took it to the Raps early.
It was a spectacular showing in both how not to start a game and how not to play defense. Jose Calderon was getting abused by Davis, Kaman was killing Bargnani on the blocks and DeRozan was simply trying far too hard in his homecoming. By the time the first quarter was done the Clippers had shot 75% from the floor and it looked like they were well on their way to an easy win.
In the second quarter the Raps managed to right the ship thanks to their bench. In fact, I would credit this win to the Raptors bench and two guys in particular - Marco Belinelli and Amir Johnson.
Having watched the Raps starters get abused early both Belinelli and Johnson came into the game and made positive contributions. Johnson came into the game and started to pound on the glass and did some much needed dirty work around the rim while Marco simply started firing from everywhere and making some big shots.
The play of the bench seemed to spark the starters and when the second half rolled around the Raptors looked like a completely different squad.
In the second half the tables were completely turned. Rather than being abused by Davis and his quicks Jose Calderon stole the show in the third quarter where he showed off his full offensive arsenal. Calderon was nailing his jumper, getting to the rim and working the pick-and-roll game to near perfection. Any time a defender went under the screen Calderon made them pay.
In the second half the lights went on for Andrea as well. After a brutal first half where he didn't grab a single rebound and for the most part was invisible, he started to get into a nice offensive groove late and hit a couple big shots down the stretch.
As well as Jose and Andrea played in the second half, CB4 was once again an unstoppable force. His line from last night's was just sensational going for 21-14-6. He also got to the line 8 times. This has been a brilliant start to the season for CB4 and if he manages to keep this up for the majority of the season he will have established himself as the elite PF in the game. He is simply attacking the rim relentlessly and he has improved his offensive game. He is not settling for jumpers, not hesitating before making his move and getting to the line a crazy amount.
Once the Raps starters got into the game the Clippers really didn't have an answer and in the fourth quarter they completely imploded. In fact the only scored one more point in the entire second half then they scored in the first quarter. I simply can't imagine being a Clippers fan. I would have thrown in the towel long ago.
A win is a win, but I can't help but wonder what we can take from this victory. Two games in a row the Raps have started very slowly and have had to claw their way back into a game. Tonight was even worse than the Chicago game as they had to come back from a 22 point deficit.
Is this a character building win or is this simply the result of playing a team like the Clippers? Can the Raps build off these two wins, or is the team breathing a collective sigh of relief that they didn't blow a winnable game?
No matter what, the Raptors have to learn a few lessons from the past few games. Obviously they have to start games better. Falling behind like they did last will undoubtedly lead to more losses than wins. Most teams wouldn't have given up such a sizable lead. Second, this team somehow has to find a consistent energy level on the defensive end. Good offense can sometimes go cold, but goof defense is something that can always be there. Right now the team is unbelievably inconsistent on the defensive end.
The past two games have been entertaining to watch but I'm far from comfortable with how this team has played. Come back wins are always exciting but let's just hope they don't make a habit of it.
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It is good to be a fan again!
A few days ago, someone was ripping you guys pretty hard for being anti-Bargnani. I must admit I didn’t see it. It was only when you tried to prove your case against this poster that I started to think you guys were being somewhat unreasonably anti-Bargs.
Franchise and Howland, you guys know I have been a huge fan of the site for years. Those have been tough years to be a Rap fan. The Raps won the Titanic division a few years ago and were beaten in the first round, and consider how fondly we all remember that year of relatively modest success. (Never even mind the super Carter years of making it to the second round!)
I am starting to think that these years of misery are starting to lead to a slightly jaded view of our Raps. When the schedule came out, all the ‘realists’ were talking like we would be 3-15 to start the season. Right now we are over .500 and even if we lose the next 3 games we will be doing better than most thought through what is probably the toughest part of our schedule. Why aren’t we happier?
Everyone seems to be clear about what our weaknesses are both as a team and for each individual player. This is the top Raps site, why not be fans a little and pull out the rose coloured glasses.
-Bosh has actually improved his game, which we thought had hit its cieling.
-Bargnani has improved each year and will likely continue to improve for years to come
-Jose seems to have recovered and found his shit and wind
-Turk is playing like a vet, really bringing some stability to the wing
-DeMar is starting as a rookie, looking decent most nights, and will only improve as well
-Our bench is a strength this year, and should also improve when Evans comes around
You asked what we should take from this game? I say we take that our offence is amazing, and we are ALWAYS in a game because we can score in bunches at any point in a game, even against exexcellent defensive teams.
Even our awful defence which is near the bottom of the league isn’t all bad. It seems to me that our team is able to play better D in situations. When we need solid D we seem to occasionally pull it out. Certtainly not all through the game, but unlike last year, I am a lot more optimistic this year near the end of a game when we need a stop that we might actually get it.
Triano has been solid. Last year it felt like our coaching was hurting us with game strategy and odd substituion choices. JT seems to already have a better idea of rotations and roles for various players, who works well together and what the team does collectively well and what they need to work on (ahem, defence).
Once we get through this tough part of the schedule, which will also coincide with having played 20-30 games together (including pre-season), the Raps should be ready to really get on a role. I know I might get slated here for being too optimistic, but i don’t think I am being too unreasonable in my assessments – and this RAPTORS HQ, we are raps fans! I’d rather celebrate a huge comeback that focus on how bad we were in the first quarter! Stop acting like a girl that has been hurt before! Enjoy what is happening, I thin we have a great team here and everyone is playing their part quite well!
Walker McKenna
by Robert Archibald on Nov 14, 2009 8:05 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree, I did not post during the last two games (although I was awake and trust you me, if your time zone is CET that was not easy) so I was a spectator and it seems this board got a bit of the R-flu (A of RealGm). I do not have anything against opinionated people, as long as they do not take themselves too seriously. It would be a shame loosing what was this site best feature: Good analysis and (different, even passionate) opinions, but with the capability of keeping a perspective. Please let’s not loose that “Helicopter view” on things that made (to me at least) this site so enjoyable.
On a less serious note: Defensive stance, from my chair in Spain I picture you looking like the taxi driver on the TNT commercial just that instead of your outside game, all you could talk of was your improved rebounding…. haha
by renato on Nov 14, 2009 8:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha. I haven’t seen that commercial. I’ll have to check it out.
The first quarter last night was a perfect example of the lack of rebound and defence that has plagued this team so far this season (Clippers shooting 75%?!?!). They’re lucky they were playing the Clippers because you’re not going to dig out of a hole like that against better teams.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 14, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you can’t miss it, it is an NBA commercial, there are different episodes one with Deron Williams, one with Gilbert Arenas (that is the one I was referring to) and another one with Dwight Howard (who, turns out really does NOT know who Jack Sikma is)
by renato on Nov 14, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I need to stop going to the fridge during commercial breaks, apparently.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 14, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, I take it you’ve never seen The Office have you?
by Simon M on Nov 15, 2009 1:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Some great points. I was sort of resigned to Bosh continuing to produce the way he has for the past four seasons. The most enjoyable part of the season so far has been watching Bosh take the leap to the next level.
I’m also very happy to see Jose come around since I selected him very high in a fantasy draft :)
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 14, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, let's enjoy the win
We have had so many loses the past couple of years that we should not pass up the chance to celebrate a victory. Let’s not sacrafice being a fan at the alter of over analysis.
Thanks for the reminder Archie
by sixtanker on Nov 14, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I mean Jose has found his shot, not shit! lol
Walker McKenna
by Robert Archibald on Nov 14, 2009 8:10 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is two come from behind wins back to back
I went to sleep before the game finished thanks to work so I missed the great comeback.
Does this mean they are a new team after all? I hope so.
Oh yeah and RIP Quincy Douby. The name alone was great.
Ray Bala
CANadian BasketBALL Report
on www.raptorhq.com
by rbala on Nov 14, 2009 8:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Defence ???
Surprise, surprise, Raptors can play TEAM defence !!!!!
Cleveland -Won 101-91
Detroit-Won 110-99
New Orleans Won 107-90
Chicago Won 99-89
LA Won 104-89
Five wins-5 games under 100 pts, 4 games under 91 pts, defence, avg 91.6 pts.
Whats wrong with that ???
by Johnn19 on Nov 14, 2009 9:49 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
A Fantastic Win
Probably my favourite game of the year, even when down was confident we would come back..
I am starting to like Triano and his methods. DeRozan was trying too hard, to the bench he goes. Jack, deservedly has had his minutes decreased. He’s increased Amir’s time and balanced it nicely between playing with Bosh and Bargnani. He’s been lenient with a sometimes trigger-happy Antoine Wright. He accepts the fact the Bargnani will have these 2 rebound 0 FT’s nights(about the only thing that stands out negative from last night).
9 games in we are 5-4, which you know, we really should be happy with that. Mr Archibald pointed out above what we all know, Raptsor Fans are passionate and are capableof really getting down on their team when we lose. Next five games are tough, Suns and Nuggets are playing great and Sloan is fixing things in Utah, then we got the Heat and Magic at home.
by Tinmann on Nov 14, 2009 10:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
old habit die hard I guess
The most important factor in the game tonight was Chris Bosh’s 6 assist. He chose to involve his teammates and we looked like a good basketball team and dare I might say if he plays like he did for the last 2 1/2 quarters he will, in my eyes, go a long way in justifying his up coming paycheck. I loved it. He made some great passes and this team played like a team. The first quarter is what happens when Bosh stalls ball movement and tries to do too much. Good job Bosh!
Again though, your rhetoric is over the top. Kaman was not killing Andrea. Andrea played solid D on Kaman and he hit some tough shots. This is the NBA, sometimes guys just make shots regardless of the D you play on them. No one should be upset as long as solid D is being played. Your also being extremely unfair to Kaman, his play has been all-star caliber and how many guys in the NBA wish they could pull off that post move on Andrea. I’m sorry but that was just a great move by a really good NBA player.
He never gave up an OR to Kaman the entire game. On every defensive possession he was finding Kaman and boxing him out. His defense in the 1st quarter was great. He cut off Davis on the baseline, forcing a TO, he blocked a Davis shot, (to bad his teammates forgot to rotate and box out Kaman) and he was getting a hand up and challenging shots.
1st quarter
5:45 – 15/13 – clippers
- Rasho in to replace Andrea.
1st quarter –
1:20 – 32/17 – clippers
- Andrea in to replace Bosh
2nd quarter –
8:50 – 41-21 – clippers
- Andrea replaced with Bosh
2nd quarter
2;20 – 50/39 – clippers
- Andrea in for Amir ( i think?)
Half
54/39 clippers
On a side note, the clippers shot 75% in the first quarter.
In the second half and especially down the stretch Andrea altered a lot of shots and Bosh was there to clean up the boards. People can cry all they want but just because the stat sheet reads 2 rebounds doesn’t mean a player wasn’t contributing on the boards. Andrea kept Kaman to 3 rebounds below his average, i can live with that and live with the 2 rebounds if he is boxing out his man. We won the rebounding battle.
Now seriously, I’m not here to defend Andrea after every game. But come on, at least try to be somewhat objective.when describing his contribution. I’m sure I’m not the only one who gave props to Kaman for hitting 2 tough shots against good D in the first.
If you want to criticize him for anything, please call him out for not be more involved on the offensive glass. You will have a legitimate complaint than.
by even flow on Nov 14, 2009 11:23 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
wow I’ve never seen so much man love for Drea. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve been a mild Bargs apologist but if you check the in game chat from last night, we all agreed that he was getting killed every time Kaveman touched the ball in the 1st half. However you’ll be glad I defended him and Triano when he got reinserted late in the game.
Just check the play-by-play recap: http://www.nba.com/games/20091113/TORLAC/playbyplay.html#1
Anyways, where were you the first few years when “BargsBust” was crapping all over the place we had to tell him to be patient?
:)
by Ustation on Nov 14, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
watching the game in an hour.. just watching Camby blow by Bargs for a foul.. as Jack is commenting as to how Kaman exposed Bargs in the 1st half.
by Ustation on Nov 14, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He is in a pub for singles, getting drunk together with a Harry Palmer guy….
by renato on Nov 14, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, there’s a HUGE difference between a guy hitting tough shots and a guy getting lit up. Bargnani was getting lit up in the first half.
That being said, Bargs was doing a nice job attacking Kaman from the start. He took him off the dribble, blew by him and finished. Exactly the type of mismatch you expect from Andrea on the offensive side of the ball.
See, I can be positive about the Big Italian!
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 14, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
re Andrea
8/13-3/6-2-1-1-2-19
FG-3FG-RB-AST-STL-BL-PTS
All you need to know, without his contribution, at key times, Raptors lose.
Raptors won the game with good performaces by their key players, over 4 qtrs.
Everything else is useless, garbage, comments, be happy he is contributing, and
improving his game..
Who cares whether he or Bosh, or Johnson rebounds, as long as someone does?
by Johnn19 on Nov 14, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“Who cares whether he or Bosh, or Johnson rebounds, as long as someone does?”
Because when the Raptors have lost, their lack of rebounding has been a big reason why. And if Bosh grabbed only 2 rebounds no one would really care because he’s rebounded well on a consistent basis. Bargnani’s been a poor rebounder, so when he only gets 2 rebounds, it’s not easily overlooked.
Tim W.
The Picket Fence
by Tim W. on Nov 14, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True, now, pls find out a good explanation why the Clips kept going to Kayman (who has been killing also Bosh, btw) and the Raps stop immediately going to Drea….
by renato on Nov 14, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
?
I have a thing for honesty and accuracy. If your describing Kaman’s play as ‘killing Andrea’ than I pity any player that has to live up to your standards. Did Kaman dunk on Andrea? Did Kaman push him down on the block and have an easy layup? Did Kaman blow by him for an easy layup? Now to me that would be killing Andrea on the block, hitting a step back jumper, a double spin move moving away from the basket and a baseline fade-away with a hand in your face are what I call hitting your shots. Sue me for given credit to some great offensive moves.
Unlike you I do not demand players have to always get a stop. I have come to accept at this level of basketball sometimes there is nothing you can do, guys just hit their shots.
It was 15/13 for the Clippers when Jay took Andrea out. 4min and 25 sec. later it was 32/17 for the Clippers. It appears to me Jay was a little premature in taken Andrea out. Andrea also had 3 key defensive plays in the 1st quarter. The blocked shot on Davis, denying the entry pass to Kaman and then stepping over to cut off Davis on the baseline causing him to step out of bounds. He also had a deflection that lead to a Derozen layup. He was out best defensive player in the first half and again people use him as a scapegoat. It’s funny.
Download the game and watch it yourself.
by even flow on Nov 14, 2009 7:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Kaman is averaging 22 points this year because he has a wide variety of post moves. I can’t think of a single point that he scored on bargnani that didn’t have a high degree of difficulty. His points came from fadeaways or points scored on the second or third counter post move. It’s hard to fault Bargnani for his work on Kaman, in the NBA good offense ALWAYS beats good defense. All you need to know about Kaman’s game and Bargnani D is that Kaman wasn’t stopped by Jay switching a better defender onto him, but when Jay decided to double team.
by CalexanderJ on Nov 14, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude.. those weren’t just my words. Rewatch Raps in an Hour and listen to Jack Armstrong (as I did this afternoon): “Kaman exposed Bargnani”.. he later jokes with Devlin that maybe he should play one on one with Bargs so we don’t see the bad Bargs..
Dude.. those weren’t just my words. Rewatch Raps in an Hour and listen to Jack Armstrong (as I did this afternoon): “Kaman exposed Bargnani”.. he later jokes with Devlin that maybe he should play one on one with Bargs so we don’t see the bad Bargs..Or better yet read another blog by someone from the clips: http://clipperblog.com/ “Chris Kaman bullies Andrea Bargnani down on the block, getting plenty of space for his step-back jumper.”
Again.. I’m not a Bargs hater, and well I guess I’m sorry we’re all watching a different game than you.
by Ustation on Nov 14, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“We really needed this game. We’ve got a tough road trip, so it was important to start it in a good way,” center Andrea Bargnani said. “I started the game very bad and they went up 20 points, but after halftime our defense was much better and that gave us the confidence to score the ball. We gave more effort and were more focused.”
Oh wait.. maybe Bargs is wrong.
by Ustation on Nov 15, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This team needs Reggie Evans. When will he be back?
by Frag on Nov 14, 2009 11:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm with that ....
The team is playing great right now, apparently only after the first quarter, but we are sill missing Reggie.
Everyone of importance to the lineup has seemed to show some toughness but Reggie is tough. He is a Ben Wallace type circa late 90s minus the blocked shots and sorely needed to help on the glass.
It still amazes me that a team like the Raps with many good and athletic players still underachieve on the glass.
Ray Bala
CANadian BasketBALL Report
on www.raptorhq.com
by rbala on Nov 14, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope that Bosh isn’t playing his ass off simply for a big payday. If he can motivate himself after the big contract he’ll get then he is truly a franchise player. Lets hope he decides to stay
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by LeafFan1989 on Nov 14, 2009 11:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
yeah cause he didn’t become an allstar just because of the payday the previous years in the middle of his contract, and it’s not like he’s just gotten better each year.
by Ustation on Nov 14, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey a really good Clips Blog with really good video breakdown! http://clipperblog.com/
by Ustation on Nov 14, 2009 12:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Video Breakdown
Thanks for the link Ustation, that video breakdown was pretty cool. Maybe something you guys may want to try Raptors HQ. Would love to have the Raptors games broken down play by play… Can’t understand why they wouldn’t do something like this on the broadcast or on Raptors post-up.
by MAS11 on Nov 14, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Belinelli
Is it just me or did Belinelli remind anyone of an Italian version of Eddie House last night? The quick catches and shots catching nothing but net for 3. Loved that.
We should continue to refer to him as ‘Chucker’ though. That was one of the funnier parts of last night’s game thread.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 14, 2009 1:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Beli actually attacks the Rim and can make some nice assists, you never see Eddie doing that
by renato on Nov 14, 2009 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Alex English
During yesterdays broadcast, Jack Armstrong attributed an interesting quote to Alex English. Jack was asking about the team and English’s response was “Jack, we(the team) go as the big guy goes”, And by big guy he wasn’t refering to Bosh, it was Bargnani.
by Tinmann on Nov 14, 2009 2:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agreed, I made the same point myself, if Andrea is on, usually the team is on with him, both on D and even more on O, where if he shoots well, he open up plenty of space for everyone else. I love how Bosh is playing, who could possibly not, yet, in terms of Ws getting a nice contribution from Andres seems to be the key. Not sure if it is a good thing at the moment (he is not really playing well), although these days a 19/6/2 (blocks) is considered a so and so performance (which is another statement on how far he has gone).
by renato on Nov 14, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Evans
One of the Toronto papers today said that he’s out at least another 2 weeks, and likely more to get into conditioning. Sounds like we might not see Evans be effective in his role until early 2010—at least Amir brought it last night.
So, the 4th quarter: yes the Clippers suck, but did you see how hard the Raps were rotating on D? Why can’t we do this for 48 minutes, since we have a deep bench with a bunch of relatively quick guys?
by Original Aaron on Nov 14, 2009 3:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Renato, spread the love!
Renato, I live in Scotland, so I am up at 3 am watching the crappy online feed too, so I know you are passionate for the Raps. But if the raps traded Bargs, would you still be a fan? Bargs may be the one can put us over the top to win games, but without Bosh putting up 25/10, what Bargs contributes wouldn’t matter.
Don’t get me wrong, I love Bargs and I actually enjoy watching him play more than I enjoy watching Bosh. I was and probably am one of the biggest proponents of a Bosh to GS for Biedrins + wing trade. That said, Bosh has 6 years as a 22/9 guy – something Bargs won’t be able to say for at least another, 6 years. Bosh has been a good team guy and a solid citizen, he works hard and has tried to improve a facet of his game every year. I love Bargs, but we might not know what we have in Bosh until he is gone. Hopefully he won’t go.
I agree with you Defensive Stance, I like the chucker monicker. Like I said before, time to start embracing this team for their strengths instead of pissing on them for their weaknesses. Belli, bad defence, blah blah – Chuck it! I like that better!
PS – I hope my first post didn’t come across as negative at all towards the site. This site is tops and has been for a long time. The quality of comments are well worth the read and nobody covers the Raps with more zeal. Cheers lads
Walker McKenna
by Robert Archibald on Nov 14, 2009 5:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I actually got league pass HD, I decided If I had to weak up at night it should be for somethind high quality, as a matter of broadcast and quality of play. I am not sure you will have to wait that long, if you can average 20 surrounded by Bosh and Turks and Calderon and Belinelli, you could make more if one of those would disappear (let’s say Bosh, just as an Example).
Bosh had the advantage of being the lone good player in a team for a while, which means being fed with the ball irrespective of his play for a few years (also on a team that had no real goals to achieve or loose) that has never been Andrea’ situation. There are also some characteristics related to temperament, in an interview in Italian (actually he was complaining about Italy’s national team coach) he said that he had been grown under Messina’s system, meaning “he (Andrea) is a soldier” They would tel him what to do and he would execute. This is also the approach he has brought to the NBA, possibly he is not old/mature enough to be more assertive, for example demanding the ball when it is obvious to anyone that for team’s sake he should receive, not only more touches, but “consistently more touches”.
by renato on Nov 14, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I could have come to work in Edinborough lately, for a project for BskyB, unfortunately the pound has sunk against the Euro, making the rate on offer not sufficient.
by renato on Nov 14, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The flip side
Andrea also hasn’t ever been the only offensive threat on a team, thus demanding a double team every trip down the floor. Now, I do believe that Bargs might actually be strong at passingout of a double team, with his height and court vision, however thus far he has always been the second option or lower. You also failed to address the other number in that 25/10. With Bargs as your starting C or even if he moved over to PF, you need to have a beast rebounding along with him. Right now Bosh is that beast, and Bosh scores too – which makes him a much better option than a Biedrins or Evans type. Having Bosh as one of our bigs has given us the luxery of being able to ease Bargs into the league and hide some of his weaknesses.
In fairness, they seem to be playing together better this year than ever before. Bosh is accepting the fact that he has to be the man down low in the post, which is freeing up Bargs to show off his entire arsenal. This is the best result for the team and makes signing Bosh long term to a max contract much more paletable. While beating the Clips, Bosh and Bargs out rebounded Kaveman and Camby 16-13. Who would have thought that would happen a year ago?
I gotta look into League Pass, my broadband is a little slow, I am out in the Scottish countryside, but it has to beat justintv! And don’t get me started on the pound! When I transferred my savings 5 years ago, I got raped, now I’m earning punds and they aren’t worth anywhere near what they were! Oh well at least I have the lovely weather…
Walker McKenna
by Robert Archibald on Nov 15, 2009 5:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
man love !!!
I’m sticking with Raptor Love.
Bosh cannot do this on his own !!!!
And guess what ? neither can Bargs !!!!
It’s all about team …God ,this site is looking more and more like a Khandors site!
For this team to win it has to play like a team PERIOD end of story…team crashing the boards,team sharing the ball…and especially team defense.
Ya,its easy to pick on one individuals play and crap all over him (ie Jose) but when this team hums like it can,its a beautiful thing to watch.
I understand we all have our favs (renato) and myself included,but at the end of the day its a team W or a team L.
Some post are becoming too predictable ,and even painful to read,same shit over and over.I love the site,but guys chill,we are holding our own…now lets hope to stay somewhat healthy.
by d279 on Nov 15, 2009 8:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
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