Orlando vs. Toronto: Game Day Thread
by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 1, 2009 1:00 PM EST
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Orlando Magic at Toronto Raptors, Nov 1, 2009 1:00 PM EST
November 1, 2009 Time for the Raptors to rebound after Friday night's loss to the Grizz. Obviously all eyes will be on Hedo Turkoglu who will be facing his old teammates. The HQ crew will be discussing things live during this afternoon's Game-Day Thread, and of course, the recap will follow tomorrow.
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Nas' Hate Me Now
An appropriate song when I think about Andrea Bargnani’s interior defense and rebounding…
Let’s get the chat underway!
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 1:09 PM EST reply actions
Franchise — a big Duke fan — is at the ACC today, and he must be touching himself after JJ Redick got introduced with the starters.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 1:11 PM EST reply actions
Hey Hey… Loving the new intro actually. Damn.. I have to flip btw the game and the Giants vs Eagles. I guess I can flick on the PIP.
Beautiful afternoon for the PIP feature (or multiple flat screens on your wall). Haha.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
I’m feeling good about my Philly pick then :P
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
I was reading something the other day about the Mavs stats guy believing that having a PF who could shoot correlates with winning, so I’d love to see CB4 add the 3 ball to his arsenal.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
Bosh
… with the missed free throws. Fatigue 2 mins in after carrying the team on Friday? but he comes back with the 3 ball.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 1:17 PM EST reply actions
Ryan Anderson
X-Factor today for sure.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 1:18 PM EST reply actions
Bad Tattoos
If there’s an “All Bad Tattoo” team in the NBA, Matt Barnes is the starting SF.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 1:19 PM EST reply actions
Perimeter D?
Glad to see that’s no happening through the midway point of the 1st quarter…
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 1:21 PM EST reply actions
DeMar DeRozan
You think the T-Wolves would like a do-over on that Rubio pick? A Flynn-DeRozan backcourt would look pretty good right baout now.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 1:22 PM EST reply actions
Matt Barnes foul
That call was ridiculous. But I don’t know why the Raptors’ coaching staff didn’t step up to prevent that technical foul. Stupid to give up free points in a game. I hate the T’s.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 1:26 PM EST reply actions
Like that Turk “and 1” that the ref just swallowed his whistle on?
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
Well, JJ Redick (who just hit that WIDE OPEN 3 and layup)… Howard, Anderson, Barnes and Nelson.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
This is a deep, deep team.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Of course I mean ORL and not the Raptors’ pretend depth.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t mind some mins from Antoine Wright as well. How in the name of god do you let JJ score 5 straight points? Ridiculous.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
JJ started?
since when was JJ NBA starter material?
Ray Bala
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Magic had that lead to 10 pts before the Raps have crawled back 31-26.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 1:36 PM EST reply actions
And we’re back to a 10-pt ORL lead…
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 1:37 PM EST reply actions
36-28 at the end of the 1st quarter
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 1:38 PM EST reply actions
That is horrible...
is Evans still out? Weems?
Ray Bala
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Evans is still in street clothes, and Weems hasn’t seen the floor yet.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Raps shot 58% and trail… Magic shot 64% and are winning the battle of the boards 11-7…
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Redick is pretending he’s back at Duke…
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 1:42 PM EST reply actions
So does that mean that he's looking for multiple screens set by Sheldon Williams?
Ray Bala
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He doesn’t even need screens, man — he just got to the basket off the dribble for 2… Raps are playing Charity Game defense right now.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
J-Will just got into the paint like he was still in Sactown (and not a guy who didn’t even play in the NBA last season)… This game is getting out of hand with less than 3 mins gone in the 2nd quarter…
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 1:44 PM EST reply actions
I’m trying to internalize the anger and frustration for the sake of my two napping children… haha…
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
CBC cameras just caught Bosh turning towards the tunnel and yelling “trade me” to general manager Bryan Colangelo… kidding… maybe :(
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 1:49 PM EST reply actions
You just knew...
… that last JJ Redick 3 was going in. Dude is 4 of 5 from long range (6 of 8 overall).
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 1:54 PM EST reply actions
Raps showing signs of life...
… still down 16, 56-40, though
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 2:02 PM EST reply actions
Bosh has been terrible from the line so far…
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 2:08 PM EST reply actions
Antoine Wright for 3...
… and the Raptors have cut the lead in half! ORL by 11.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 2:10 PM EST reply actions
9-point game...
Can the Raptors continue to cut into the lead? Not if they foul JJ Redick for no reason.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 2:14 PM EST reply actions
64-53 at halftime
Just an ugly, ugly game at this point… Time to check some football scores…
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 2:17 PM EST reply actions
Looks like....
I have not missed much to date.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 1, 2009 2:20 PM EST reply actions
Not much. I thought the Memphis game was bad enough, but this has taken it to a new level. Watching JJ Redick destroy the Raps has been disheartening to say the least.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Redick?!
Oh dear.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 1, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Check the box score
6/10 from the field, 4/6 from 3… 3 reb, 3 ast…
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
The only thing worse than defense has been offense, they have been cutting into Orlando’s lead mostly by people playing one on 5. Let’s hope they can get a fresh start in the second half, also because they cannot play worse than this… hopefully
They’re shooting 57% from the field, which is shocking — it feels like they’re doing a lot worse offensively. And defensively, they’re holding the Magic to 44% shooting at the half (after 64% in the first quarter).
The real story here is the 3-point shooting (10 of 18 for Orlando). That’s just unacceptable.
Let’s hope the low point of the season is games 2 and 3 because I can’t take an entire season of this uninspired play.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
papa
how’s redick getting his points? or should I say, who’s letting him get his points? the guys got 18 at the half. previous GAME high for the kid? 18. what’s up?
Redick drilled four triples in the first half (most of which were WIDE open looks). But the thing that’s killing me is he even scored off the dribble while taking it to the bucket. Just blatant evidence of how soft this team is in the paint.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Dwight Howard
I barely caught that — did they just mention a possible shoulder injury for Howard? Something to look at in the 2nd half, if the Raps can continue to make a run.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 2:37 PM EST reply actions
I saw Howard
on the bench grabbing his shoulder…..that could really turn the tides.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 1, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Bosh is a monster
Double-double already… 2nd triple of the game…
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 2:39 PM EST reply actions
Turkoglu with a 3...
Seven-point game… although Devlin with the premature “they’re back” call…
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 2:40 PM EST reply actions
redick
gets his career high. and the tradition of giving scrubs records continues…
I think the Raps made JJ ...
an all star. Cast your votes people and expect him to max out his contract on this game.
Ray Bala
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That is something the Raptors tend to hang their hats on. I hear Renaldo Balkman is anxiously awaiting the Nuggets-Raptors game.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Actually...
I think Joey Graham is.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 1, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
One major positive....
Bosh continues to be a monster on the glass.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 1, 2009 2:43 PM EST reply actions
Hedo with 7 in the quarter... ORL lead is 7...
Nice to see Turkoglu show some balls against the team that discarded him in the offseason…
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 2:45 PM EST reply actions
Pretty sure,,,,
he will never earn that deal.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 1, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Looks good right now though.
But MAN! Those three’s are killer!
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 1, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that’s not happening… EVER. The Raptors will be lucky if he’s productive in the first couple of years of that deal… The last few are going to be a disaster.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
unless...
he hits a pair of game winning 3’s in the second round of the playoffs.
A lot of assumptions....
in that statement!
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 1, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
since colangelo compared this signing to his signing nash in phoenix...
i guess we’ll be expecting a few mvp trophies for the turk!
Andrea Bargnani
Way to step up with the 4 pts, 1 reb and 3 fouls…
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 2:50 PM EST reply actions
Howland
Your Rams are the anti-Raptors today!
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 2:51 PM EST reply actions
I know!
Fake FG for a TD!!!!
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 1, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
How quickly....
we will be forgetting the Cleveland win.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 1, 2009 2:51 PM EST reply actions
bargs
is going to get killed if he doesn’t step it up soon. the same people that put him up on that pedestal after the cavs game, are going to stone him right off it.
So....
Hey, I heard the Magic can hit three’s.
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Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com
by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 1, 2009 2:52 PM EST reply actions
Who can we nominate for perimeter D? Somebody needs to step up.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
what is happening with calderon!?!?
you think colangelo wants that ball back?
just saw it...
orlando 12/22 from three. 12/34 from two. crazy.
And I thought the Raps were a perimeter team?
Ray Bala
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More like a team that gets KILLED on the perimeter.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
Matt Barnes....
Thug.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 1, 2009 2:58 PM EST reply actions
Maybe a little shove...
re-focused the big man.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 1, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
that is up to his teammates as much as it is up to him, I would say all the raptors players have “the wrong face” today, I wonder why….
Too much partying after last night’s Jay-Z concert in Toronto / Halloween?
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
Reception
Anyone else getting choppy reception on their HD?
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 1, 2009 3:04 PM EST reply actions
Rogers? Picture isn’t the greatest, but it’s not choppy.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
I love the pretend rally when there’s no realistic chance of winning… JJ with the backbreaker…
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 3:06 PM EST reply actions
Did I already point this out?
Our starting centre has ONE rebound today. One lonely, pathetic rebound.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 3:08 PM EST reply actions
DD
Absolutely has to go up harder than than on a rebound. That was a weak finish.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 1, 2009 3:10 PM EST reply actions
99-89 after 3 quarters
The Magic have answered everything.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 3:10 PM EST reply actions
yeah
but to his credit, no one else outside of bosh has more than 3 boards either.
I think the use of the term
“credit” with one rebound is a bit of an oxymoron.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 1, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
or I should say
to the discredit of the rest of the team
LOL
Surprisingly, the teams are even at 26 in the rebounding department. More of a function of the shooting, methinks.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Bargnani
And right on cue Bargs cuts to the basket and gets fouled. That was a nice move. Smart basketball play.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 3:16 PM EST reply actions
Follows up with a 3 ball, but then doesn’t even make an effort to grab the rebound that just went to Matt Barnes.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Just pointing out that he didn’t even jump for it.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
going up when the ball goes straight down is counter productive…. hahah… he has HIGH basketabll IQ … LOLOL
The rest of the team needs some of that basketball IQ…
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
I’d like to see him continue to score while finishing with 6 or 7 boards.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
16 three's?
That is crazy!
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 1, 2009 3:22 PM EST reply actions
Well, this is the team to do that against, apparently.
If you can’t defend the paint (against Memphis) and can’t defend the perimeter (today’s, uhhh, performance) then WTF?!?
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
There is no perimeter D today. Absolutely none. It’s ridiculous.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 3:22 PM EST reply actions
Well..
They still have a chance….
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 1, 2009 3:24 PM EST reply actions
mind you...
the raps are shooting 77% from downtown
.
It’s like Phoenix North… only with way shittier results.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
and...
that’s another record for a raptors opponent…apparently
Could be a solid finish!
And now the big men are into it!
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 1, 2009 3:28 PM EST reply actions
Can this team....
not waste this massive effort by CB4?
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 1, 2009 3:31 PM EST reply actions
funny
but this was the kind of tight game hedo thrived in last year…he’d put the dagger in you right at the end
you gotta hand it to bosh
he’s held his own against superman tonight, and he’s bringing it in the 4th qtr.
Wow
Taking it right at Anderson!
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 1, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
Anderson came right back at the other end though…score pts but give them back on the other end (story of the Raptors).
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Oooooh...
bad shot there by Andrea.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 1, 2009 3:40 PM EST reply actions
Bosh/Bargnani/Turkoglu share the empty stats award this evening. Numbers need to result in a win.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 3:42 PM EST reply actions
It will be interesting to see...
if these guys can keep their heads above water for the next few weeks.
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Nov 1, 2009 3:43 PM EST reply actions
Historically bad D
If the Raptors keep this up, they should end up threatening some sort of league records…
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 3:44 PM EST reply actions
I think we expected 1-2 after the first three games. But with that upset over CLE and ORL being hit by injuries/illness, I think a 3-0 start was realistic. Guess not.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 3:46 PM EST reply actions
wow
and this orlando team is playing without vince and pietrus…this is a good team.
let keep in mind
that they shot 53% from downtown though. they won’t be able to do that most nights.
I was waiting for someone to touch on this. He’s terrible.
by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Nov 1, 2009 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
You know what?
IIRC the last time the Raptors beat Orlando, I’m pretty sure Howard was about 45% on free throws. Lots of praise for the Raptors that time, but they would have lost that game if he’d made free throws like he did tonight. OTOH, they would have had a real chance to win if he’d shot 45% from the line tonight, despite everything else that went wrong.
If he can keep this up, he’ll turn into an MVP candidate.
I've been looking at the sky
NOOooo
defense was bad, but i think the magic were just lucky being able to hit all those threes. what killed us the most was that we couldnt hit any of our free-throws and the offiicials were heavily favouring the magic. there were many plays that were boneheaded calls and noncalls by the refs. also what the f* is up with calderon. our most important player who controls the offense is playing really terrible right now. he’s missing his shots (3’s and free-throws) and thats what he does best. calderon needs to step up big time or this team will continue losing.
!!!
Everyone keeps mentioning that the Magic were missing Carter and Pietrus . . . what about Rashard Lewis! He’s a 20ppg+ scorer who is out the first ten games because of steroids. This team will smoke the Raps 100 times out of a 100 with a full lineup.
Raps remain a lottery team . . . at least we get to keep the pick this year.
3 guards !!!
I dont know about you guys and gals but I’m getting tired of the 3 guard use…how is it working for you !!!
Dont get me wrong Bosh played his ass off ,even manned up against his buddy Howard…but in the dying minutes of ALL fuc….. games Bosh becomes this big black hole,the rest of the team might as well go back on defence,because we know that no one has any intentions of crashing the boards …did I just say defence!!!!!
As ball fans we know that JJ and Anderson can shoot threes,what was the game plan for today? to watch their guards fly by JC again !!!
I like Jose,I’m still questioning the Turk signing,but the "GAME SHAPE B.S. "I for one am getting tired of game shape excuses and 9 new players…
I thought the team was going to substitute according to match ups ? Nelson has owned JC !!
I also like the rook…but I think its time to start AR.
I better stop now
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