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Toronto Raptors Season Preview - The Return of the Titanic Division


To kick off this week's series of Raptor previews, Franchise takes an analytical look at the Atlantic Division, and then the rest of the Eastern Conference...

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As most readers know, I'm a big fan of David Berri's Wages of Wins website, and the "wins produced" (WP) metric he so often employs to measure player value and effectiveness.

Is the metric infallible?

Of course not.

However I've found more often than not, that it's given a pretty acurate view of both individual and team performance.

Take last year's Toronto Raptors.

Berri recently charted each player who participated on the team last year in terms of their "wins produced", and their combined score was 33.5.  That's half a win more than the team's actual total from last season so in fact, his calculation hit the nail nearly right on the head.

And on the opposite end of the spectrum, let's look at the Boston Celtics.

Berri charted the team's total wins produced at 61.1 and the team in fact won 62 games.

Again, pretty bang on.

Even if you don't agree with the way he calculates "wins produced," or disagree with his analysis, I find that it's an interesting way to look at things; one that doesn't get nearly enough attention.

To that end, I thought that instead of previewing the Raptors and their Atlantic Division competitors through traditional means, I'd use Berri's "wins produced" score to form a rough estimate of how teams could end up seeded when playoffs rolled around.

I also took things one step further, and looked at the Eastern Conference as a whole, but for the moment let's talk Titanic.

Yes, that's right, I think that the Titanic moniker will be reinstated this season. 

That may not be surprising to some, as it's no stretch to say that the New Jersey Nets post-Vince Carter appear to have taken a step back, and the New York Knicks, well, they're the Knicks.  However I'm also expecting the Philadelphia 76ers to take a step back as well, partly due to the loss of Andre Miller and the point guard situation, and partly due to the re-acclimatization of Elton Brand.  Remember, with Brand last year the Sixers were hardly looking like a playoff contender.

And as for our beloved Raptors, I definitely think they've taken a step in the right direction from last year's moribund club, but I'm not putting them close the the cream of the division, the Boston Celtics, in terms of wins.  That being said, I do think that the Raptors will finish second in the Atlantic when all is said and done, and looking at Berri's work via his recent series of team previews, the metrics appear to back that up.

Adding up the "wins produced" for the current group of Raptors, based on last year's individual WP scores, Toronto ends up with 34.8 wins.  However that's not taking into account scores for DeMar DeRozan, a rookie, or Sonny Weems, who as well in many ways will be experiencing his first real year of NBA action.  Based on their performance in college, it would seem that these two would add another 3 to 4 wins combined, putting Toronto's WP total score around 38.  That's not the 42 wins I'd earmarked the team to hit, however it puts the Dinos ahead of Philadelphia, 32.4, New Jersey, 31.2, and New York, 30.1, as can be seen from the table below:

Toronto Raptors

New York Knicks

New Jersey Nets

Philadelphia 76ers

Calderon

11.5

Duhon

5.5

Harris

8

Williams

1.8

Belinelli

0.1

Hughes

2

Lee

3

Green

-0.3

Turkoglu

6.7

Chandler

1

Lopez

5.4

Iguodala

13.1

Bargnani

-0.3

Lee

14.1

Simmons

4.3

Brand

12

Bosh

9.9

Curry

-1.9

Yi

0

Dalembert

6.9

Jack

4.4

Robinson

6.7

Boone

1.3

Young

2.2

DeRozan

R

Gallinari

0.7

Hassell

1.2

Holiday

R

Wright

-2.4

Harrington

0

CDR

0.5

Speights

0.6

Evans

3.5

Milicic

1.1

Najera

-0.3

Kapono

-1.7

Nesterovic

-1.3

Jeffries

0.9

Dooling

3.4

Ivey

-0.7

Johnson

2.7

Hill

R

T. Williams

R

Jason Smith

-1.5

Weems

R

Alston

4.4

Prezec

0

Total

34.8

Total

30.1

Total

31.2

Total

32.4

 

Of course this is no perfect view.  I've simply taken the WP scores that Berri calculated from last season (and in Brand's case, use an estimated value based on his play in numerous previous seasons), and added them up to get a rough final WP team score.

Injuries, minutes played, team fit (for new players), sample size (for rookies and sophomores) and other factors will  impact how each player's "wins produced" metric turns come end of the season, so again, this is admittedly a rough view I've taken.  In fact, the Knicks, 76ers, and Nets should all boast slightly higher total WP scores based on the play of their rookies, whose numbers aren't factored in to the final team scores above.  However outside of Terrence Williams on the Nets, who looks to be able to produce a higher WP score than any other rookie in the division based on his college statistics, I don't anticipate any of these other young bucks to produce at significant enough rate to change the final WP ratios for each team.

Translation - in the end, I do believe the Raptors will finish behind only the Celtics in the division race.

But what about the Conference itself?  It's been much-discussed that after the Celtics, Magic, and Cavs form the top 3 in some order, with the exception of maybe Atlanta, the final four playoff spots could go to any of about six teams, including the Raps.

Using the same methodology then that I used to determine divisional order, I looked at how Toronto would finish statistically compared to Miami, Chicago, Detroit, Washington and Indiana, the five clubs expected to fight for those coveted final four playoff spots.

The results were as follows:

4.

Washington

5.

Atlanta

6.

Indiana

7.

Miami

8.

Toronto

9.

Philadelphia

10.

Detroit

Surprisingly, based on Total Wins Produced, Atlanta doesn't have the best shot at the fourth position come playoff time, Washington does.  And Indiana, a club many figure to miss the playoffs entirely, finishes in sixth.  The Raptors end up grabbing the final playoff spot, slightly ahead of the 76ers.

And the Pistons, while placing 10th on this list, actually predict to finish behind even the Nets and Knicks based on their hideous WP score of under 30!

So what does this all mean?

Well, to some, maybe not much.  As previously mentioned, there are a good deal of variables not taken into account looking at this data, and therefore it's no sure thing that things will end up in this manner when the season draws to a close.

However I do think we can safely draw two conclusions from this analysis; the first being that the Raptors will end up being a playoff team, albeit not a very high-seeded one, and second being that the Atlantic Division will most likely end up being the worst division in the East, and maybe in all of the NBA.

Will Toronto only win 35 to 38 games?

I think 38, barring any major injuries to key players, is the magic number at one end of the spectrum, representing the lowest total of wins we can expect from this club while at the other end, I put the best case scenario at 45.  That 45 of course represents a giant improvement from Andrea Bargnani, and substantial impacts from players like Weems, DeRozan and perhaps even Amir Johnson and Marco Belinelli.

The other point that I think is important to highlight here then is the importance of divisional match-ups this year.  With the Atlantic looking like the home of some very poor basketball clubs, the Raptors need to take advantage of the fact that they'll see these other teams more than most other clubs, thus representing a good source of potential wins.

And fortunately the Dinos don't see an Atlantic Division rival until the end of November, and that's the 27th against the Celtics.

That should give the team plenty of time to gel before clubs like the Knicks and Nets come-a-calling... 

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Wins Produced Metrics

Looks a bit too complicated for me. The long and short of it is for those players who have negative numbers (especially Bargnani), they better sit their asses on the bench because the minute they go on the floor, they contribute negative “wins produced”. While I like to believe these figures make some sense over the course of a season, this metrics scheme is unable to take into account the team chemistry, the horoscopes of the players, players’ health and injury conditions, referees’ bad calls, improvements from last seasons, etc., etc. At the end of the day, choosing which players to put on the floor and who get to sit on the bench is just as important. Good luck Raptors. The most I see is 35 wins, if they are lucky.

by Richard L on Oct 26, 2009 10:13 AM EDT reply actions  

This is a really good point and something that while I touched on, I didn’t go into great detail about.

It’s fine to say that Kris Humphries was one of the best players on the Raps last year, which is what his WP score indicated, but to fans this seemed ridiculous. Hump sometimes looked good, but often forced this offense and didn’t play the way fans (and coaches) expected. The question though, is if he HAD been given more free-reign and more PT, WOULD we then have seen the results?

And that’s the big question now for Jay Triano, and one that I think is CRUCIAL to the team’s success this season. Can he effectively manage playing time so that players like Weems and DeRozan can develop, yet not hinder the team’s play? And can he get players like Johnson and Evans in and out of the action so as to give the team a boost defensively and yet not have them in turn, hurt the Raptors at the other end of the floor?

by Adam Francis on Oct 26, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m glad I found someone else who agreed with my 43 wins using the Win-Share model: http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=3675

They have the raps 4th in the conference.

by Ustation on Oct 26, 2009 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh and they have Toronto over Atlanta in the first round of the playoffs and losing to Cavs in the Semis. Boy, that’d be a great season.

by Ustation on Oct 26, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. That would definitely be considered a successful season. Probably best-case scenario, IMO.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Oct 26, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's all about gellin'

Nice read, let’s hope these guys come together and don’t get frustrated in the first month.

by axl t on Oct 26, 2009 11:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Glad to see...

You see Turkoglu producing 7 wins for the Raps this year. Now, if only we could get Defensive Stance onside with this, and, two Raptors T-Shirts later, we are ALL on the same page! :)
Nice article, although I don’t believe in Indy or Miami, and feel Washington will blowup/fall apart due to injury/Hibachi.

by PConn on Oct 26, 2009 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

washington...one more

I don’t understand. How do you calculate how many wins Washington will produce when their top scorers haven’t played together in 2 years? Can Gilbert play at the same level he was at two years ago?

by OneAndDone on Oct 26, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Wizards Calculation

For the Wizards, I took the exact same approach as for the 76ers with Brand, that is using an average score for Arenas based on previous seasons although I lowballed it to be on the extra conservative side. Even by doing so, the Wiz come up at the top of the “rest of the class.” See Berri’s post on the Wizards here.

by Adam Francis on Oct 26, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions  

The Raps should finish #4 at least

As a Magic fan, I find it ridiculous that so many Magic fans bash on Hedo, the guy played so well for us. Of course he is overpaid, but so is everyone else in the dang league. At least he put in the work to earn it unlike some others that shall go nameless.

The way I see it, the Raps have the best PG in the east, the best PF as well, a mismatch nightmare PG/SF, and a center who can draw big men outside. With Jarret being able to team up with Calderon at times to help out the only weak spot-SG, this team only has one real issue. Commitment.

Anything less than the 4th seed or at least the 5th seed would be a total shame. If this team puts in the work to get together and follow the coach’s system and most of all play good team defense, then this is a team with championship aspirations. Really. There really is no reason why not, except for total lack of commitment. To me this starts and ends with Bosh. Last year he started off amazingly, practically unstoppable, well his team needs that and more. They need him to shed the soft label and hold his teammates accountable to push them to being what this team should be. Elite.

Either way, look forward to a great season of basketball, best of luck!
(had to get that off my chest, sorry, I see too many negative comments about the preseason games Toronto has played).

by Eric9321 on Oct 26, 2009 1:24 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

The other “real issue” is rebounding, which tends to correlate with winning in the NBA, unfortunately.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Oct 26, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

I am of the mindset that rebounding is part of defense. As it doesn’t matter until you get the ball back.

by Eric9321 on Oct 26, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

The dumb thing is, the Wages of Wins thing was done after last season. In other words, it is easy to make things fit when you already know the results. While I acknowledge that I am sure he made predictions before last season, it is impossible to gauge how a team will work together and whether a player will contribute or not until the games are played. WoW also cannot guess if a player makes a sudden leap or sudden crash before the season begins nor take into account injuries and the effects they can have not just on a team but on the entire league. Sorry but I will never buy artificial metrics that seem completely arbitrary. Take Lee in NJ for example, he is rated as 3 wins produced but how did he come to that conclusion? Lee was the starter in Orlando but played spot minutes (I think he averaged around 20 a game) and was primarily the last choice on the floor for Orlando. This season he should basically be the second or third option at worst behind Harris so shouldn’t that metric change?
As for the predictions as to where Toronto will finish, well, who knows. This team could be a 34 win team or they could win 50 depending on how things break down. Realistically, I think most of us peg them at the 41 win mark (or there abouts) and that seems reasonable baring something earth shaking happening. I don’t need a fancy metric to come to that conclusion. Especially one I create after the games are done.

by McGateway on Oct 26, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

All stat models are to fit the entire population, not individual cases. If it works 80-90% of the time, then you’re doing pretty well.

If we could 100% predict the future, we’d all be millionaires sitting in the Carribbean drinking pina coladas!

by Smoothfan on Oct 26, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

“They’ve done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.”
- Brian Fantana from Anchorman

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Oct 26, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, yep thats true. I totally would love to be able to predict the future accurately, stocks, mutual funds, 6/49 #’s, man that would be a dream come true. :)

by Smoothfan on Oct 26, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't coaching

Also have a huge effect on how many games the Raps win? If Triano turns out to be a pretty good coach, then wouldn’t that improve the team’s chances at, lets say, 40 wins?

by Frag on Oct 26, 2009 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m of the opinion that coaching is way overrated in terms of NBA. About this time last year everyone was calling for Smitch to get fired, and I pulled up a bunch of stats that showed teams who switched coaches has minimal effect (a la Triano for Smitch).

I think the effects of coaching/managing in general (except for football) is way over valued at the pro level (I had to throw the pro bit in as I’m an amateur coach) ;)

Look at Doc Rivers as a prime example. I thought he was an aweful coach in Orlando and his first year in Boston, and I still do. It’s still all about talent.

by Ustation on Oct 26, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Solid points. I mean, coaching can have a positive impact (see Phil Jackson or Mike D’Antoni) or negative impact (see Mike Dunleavy). But, at the end of the day, talent rules.

With his experience as a player and coach, I’d expect Triano to get as much out of this team as possible… Now, that might barely result in 40 wins — but these are the cards he’s been dealt.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Oct 26, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

See I am not convinced that Jackson is as great a coach as say Jerry Sloan or Pops. He has only won when he had two studs or more on his team and I think his status as a Great Coach is overrated based on having Jordan and Kobe. Don’t get me wrong he is better than Smitch and half a dozen other coaches but I would rather have Sloan or Pops coaching my team. Can you imagine what Pops would have done with Jordan on his team?

by McGateway on Oct 27, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Umm coaching makes a huge difference in close games. Yes, Lakers for Memphis, not so much. But playoff games, with 2 point differential, 10 seconds to play, you damn well bet it does. That’s ridiculous to even suggest that they make no diff.

Triano had a huge effect, not on wins, but on player development. Look at Bargnani’s huge development after Michell left. Also look at the fact that all of the players basically said, they can play on now without fear of getting pulled for every little mistake. Michell didn’t make this team suck, but he sure didn’t help them get better either.

Let’s hope they gel quickly.

by Smoothfan on Oct 26, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Triano had a “huge effect” on player development — at least when comparing him to Smitch — wouldn’t that have resulted in wins? At some point, it has to show up in the standings.

Again, I think Triano will do a fine job coaching this season. I just don’t see his presence elevating the team beyond the 50-win plateau and into the elite conversation.

by RaptorsHQ - Defensive Stance on Oct 26, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I tend to think that coaching at the NBA level is overrated too but agree that there’s a difference between a Phil Jackson and a Sam Mitchell, especially in certain game situations.

However as opposed to college where coaching can have a huge impact on a team’s success, the NBA is so much more player driven, and a lot of the time the coach simply has to use what he’s been given to work with. That’s why, while I was never a huge Mitchell fan, I never once felt he was the main issue with the Raptors. It was the players Colangelo had provided and while Phil Jackson might have coaxed a few more wins out of last year’s group, the team still wasn’t talented or healthy enough to make the playoffs.

by Adam Francis on Oct 26, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Franchise:
I agree with most of what you are saying except Mitchell was a disaster for this team. He did not know how to run ONE play properly other than the high screen & role , his substitution patterns were terrible and he didn’t know how to match up against good coaches. He was a player’s coach, but not a bright coach. He got outcoached all the time.

Not saying his team wasn’t bad, but fact is he cost us many games where most fans are screaming for him to not do what he was doing…Win or lose, I don’t see idiotic coaching decisions anymore, so I won’t have a coronary this season (hopefully).

by Smoothfan on Oct 27, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily since other players were injured (look at Calderone) and our defense was still poruous.

Why do you think Bargs got a $10 Mill contract? It was b/c of what he showed in the 2nd half of the season. Did you forget about Jermaine ONeil eating $22 Million and not playing due to injuries?

If Calderone was healthier last year (I think he was hurt all year) then we would have been in better shape.

Regardless, the main issue on this team is DEFENSE and rebounding (as usual). I’m hoping Wright & Evans live up to the hype and can lock down their men on the court. Having a weak defensive backcourt will kill us.

by Smoothfan on Oct 26, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Interesting stuff

Good read franchise, always enjoy the stats look even if i dont always agree. I think in the end the raps are a six seed and hte pacers miss all together but thats just me.

Really, i just want the season to start!!!!

by fromlongrange on Oct 26, 2009 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

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