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A Golden Finish

The Original Dream Team is still tops in USA basketball history, but this year's group faced a much tougher task...

The Original Dream Team is still tops in USA basketball history, but this year's group faced a much tougher task...

As I watched Team USA celebrate their early Sunday-morning victory over Spain, giving them the gold medals they so desperately sought, I got thinking about the make-up of the team.

There was a point in time when the US really could send most of its Tier II type NBA stars and still take home the gold medals.

Obviously over the past few Olympic games and World Championships, that’s no longer the case.

Even though the US steamrolled through most of the games leading up to the Gold Medal finish, seeing Spain fight back to within a basket with about eight minutes remaining was a stark reminder to me that every Kobe, Lebron and Dwyane was needed to pull this one out in the end.

Each made a countless number of huge plays throughout the tourney but this finale really made me wonder what would have happened had these top talents not participated. I mean, this wasn’t like 2000 when players like Shaq, KG, Kobe and other top dogs of the NBA decided not to play for their country. No, this time around, I’d be hard pressed to identify a single player left off this US team who was either a better individual talent, or better fit, than the final 12 gold medallists.

To back this up, let’s take a look at last year’s All-Star selections.

All five of the East starters were on the US roster (Kidd, Wade, James, Bosh and Howard) while in the West, two All-Star starters were also Olympic starters (Kobe and Mello) and Carlos Boozer and Chris Paul came off the bench in both situations.

Who else from last year’s All-Star teams would have been key additions?

Well perhaps you could have argued in favour of someone like Caron Butler over Tayshaun Prince, or Rip Hamilton over Michael Redd, but in terms of players that would be stars in the same light as the Kobe’s, Lebron’s and D-Wade’s, I don’t think the US left anyone outside in the cold.

Allen Iverson is still one of the most talented players pound-for-pound in the league but was he a good fit for this US team? I’d argue not. And the same I think could be said about players like Amare Stoudemire, Paul Pierce and Rasheed Wallace, even if their games perhaps fit the international style. Perhaps KG might have been the one exception but was he that much of an upgrade over the likes of Bosh and Howard in a competition like this?

In fact I think beyond the players themselves, the individuals who put this team together, and the coaches who orchestrated things on the court from day one, really deserve a lot of praise. As we’ve seen with past US teams, it takes the right balance of coaches in order to allow all these superstar egos to mesh successfully. Coach K and his crew did a great job of this, and I think their task was much harder than the one Chuck Daly and the original Dream Team faced back in 1992.

In fact, yesterday Sports Illustrated’s Jack McCallum posted an interesting comparison between the two US Olympic basketball teams.

He argues that while both were dominant in Olympic competition, the 2008 team still wouldn’t be able to hold a candle to the original Dream Teamers.

It’s a tough call because of the changing climate of international basketball, but I’d have to agree that the ‘92 team just had too much size and power up front.

With Beijing now wrapped up, Steve Aschburner looks at NBA training camps only about six weeks away, and what the individual players on team USA will have to take back to their respective clubs in terms of "learnings" from their Olympic experience.

He had this to say about Chris Bosh:

Chris Bosh: One of the NBA's most anonymous All-Stars, Bosh blended into the scenery with the Redeem Team, too, agreeably slipping into team-player mode. His 18 points against Greece during pool play were uncharacteristic for a big guy, concentrating on defense, on a guard-dominated squad. Letting the game come to him, though, is a luxury on a Raptors team that always leaned heavily on him. Splitting that load with newcomer Jermaine O'Neal, and putting some of that freedom to use in transition, will be Bosh's best chance of curing Toronto's hiccup of last season.

Bosh did have an excellent Olympic tournament and finished things off against Spain with eight points and seven rebounds in 23 minutes. CB4 showed throughout the tournament how deadly he can be against international competition and as a pleasant surprise to Raptors’ fans, showed how dominant he can be defensively when he isn’t expected to do everything else for a team, something that we’ve discussed on the site and are hoping to see more of now that JO is in the fold.

For the rest of the Raptor Olympians, the results were a bit more mixed.

On one hand, Roko Ukic looked solid running the show for Croatia however his shot selection and efficiency left little to be desired.

On the other, Jose Calderon was once again a rock at the 1 for Spain (when he wasn’t coming off the bench or being haphazardly moved around in the rotation) but suffered an injury that could linger into the NBA season. Calderon didn’t play in Spain’s final two games (which probably had Bryan Colangelo breathing a sigh of relief) however he’ll need lots of rest and treatment to ensure that this injury doesn’t keep popping up over the course of the regular season. Considering that Toronto’s freshly-minted starting point guard has never played a full season as a starter, the last thing Dino fans want is an injury that hasn’t completely healed.

The final Raptor I wanted to mention before ending these Olympic thoughts is Carlos Delfino. Sure, he’s no longer a Raptor, or an NBA player for that matter, but catching glimpses of him in this tourney and seeing his box score numbers for Argentina did have me pondering "what if" scenarios. He finished the tournament by dropping 20 and 10 on Lithuania in Argentina’s bronze medal win and for the tournament, was consistently one of the top scorers.

That’s not to say that Toronto should have gone over the luxury tax to keep him, but his play in the tournament did admittedly make me wonder whether this was a player who was only starting to come into his own as a pro, and perhaps his best years therefore will be played back overseas. It’s a shame in some ways as I’d much rather have Delfino on the bench than someone like Joey Graham, but really at this point, there’s not much you can do.

Just like the Olympics in Beijing, looks like we’re just going to have to wave bye to Count Chocula and start looking ahead.

FRANCHISE

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Hey...I thought I could recognize all the old school players, but who is the guy behind Daly and Jordan???

by JayElZee on Aug 25, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Aha! Christian Laettner...how the hell did he sneak on the team, anyways???

by JayElZee on Aug 25, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Aha! Christian Laettner...how the hell did he sneak on the team, anyways???

by JayElZee on Aug 25, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

All in all, huge Games for our guys. Jose broke through after winning the world championships: could be the same for CB4 at a superior level? Jose proved to be a true Raptor, shutting it down after an often reoccuring minor injury, and won the silver medal. Roko got a ton of experience putting on display his strengths and weaknesses.
I always said Delfino should have been AP's replacement as a starter next year - too bad the numbers didn't work out this year.
This season is the most promising ever as a Raptor fan: our 3 stars are hungry for victory or redemption and have built enough experience among themselves to think and act like a Champion. If we stay healthy, I like our chances against anybody in a series. Last year, when everything went wrong, we still beat in individual games the Celtics, The Spurs, The Hornets, the Mavs and the Trailblazers.
Bring on the season!

by Daniel on Aug 25, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Did anyone watch the end of the Women's gold medal match? For some reason, Candace Parker went for a kind of screw you basket with like 2 seconds left in the game and USA up by like 30 points. She missed it (maybe realising how silly it was to try and make it) but it struck me about how unsportsman like it was to even try. Yes the game against Australia was chippy but the US can't complain considering how physical they were on defense. It is also interesting to see a kind of modern day equivalent to the original Dream team circumstances. Women's baksetball is probably a little further along internationally then men's was at the time of the dream team but not by much. Most of the internation teams couldn't even compete against each other let alone the USA. I heard that a couple of the Aussies were WNBAers and there was player on Russia who was actually an American (imagine how that has divided the hypocritical American press) but most of the other players on these teams were not even close to the US's team (for a reference, think Canada's women's hockey team, that is how much of a divide we are talking about). I can't help but think that 16 years from now, the Women's team might be doing a redeem team of their own as you have to believe there women all over the world (ok maybe girls) who are thinking of picking up basketball. I hope there is because otherwise women's basketball might be doomed (it might be anyway).
The raptors have a serious problem on their hands. Calderon's injury isn't considered serious yet Spain decided to sit him in the Gold medal game, a game that was very close at times. Now maybe politics played a part as Spain already screwed the raptors out of an important player with poor medical decisions but I am still concerned as there really isn't much help for him. There are some FA who could help but the Raps have shown they are unwilling to go over the luxury tax threshhold. The only alternative is to trade for a seasoned backup or dump some salary off the raps (humpster or graham would be ideal candidates but I doubt anyone would take them). Suddenly the Oneal trade doesn't look as good as if Calderon struggles all year with the groinpull the Raps will be lottery bound.

by McGateway on Aug 25, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

CL was the token white guy on the team.

Re: the Raps, Ukic seems like he will mirror Calderon's rookie year in the NBA - low turnovers, but horrible shooting and teams will sag off him. Even with JC at full health, don't know how far we will get with Ukic getting 15 mins a game. I am not a doctor, but a partial groin tear does not sound good at all. On the other hand, watching JC at the finals on the Spanish bench, he looked allright when he jumped up to curse the refs every 2 minutes.

by Rubik on Aug 25, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

It's interesting that the spanish media had some quotes this morning which sort of indicated that spain thought they were hard-done by in terms of the reffing. I didnt see the game so were there a lot of bad calls? To me it simply semed like the best team won.

by fromlongrange on Aug 25, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Token white guy?? What about Stockton, Bird, Mullin and Malone? :)

Laettner was more of a "token College kid" than anything else, and he didn't play much.

by utes on Aug 25, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Malone is black!

by Assistant GM on Aug 25, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

fromlongrange: no matter what the spanish media says, Spain did not lose because of the refs (and I am spanish). Still, let me try to explain what the fuss is all about:

In FIBA basketball, the rule for traveling is different than in the NBA. It's quite hard to explain in words, but basically the gist of it is that in FIBA ball, when you begin to dribble, you can take the first step but then you need to release the ball from your hands *before* initiating the second step, while in the NBA it is commonplace (and not a violation) to just begin the dribble *after* initiating (and sometimes completing) the second step. This is something that the american players do a lot, specially in fast-break situations.

What people are complaining is that the FIBA refs did not call these traveling violations to the US players throughout the tournament (which is played under FIBA rules), and particularly in the final there are reports counting up to 13 such traveling non-calls. What irks people here (me too) the most is not the effect that calling these would have had in the game (because if the refs called them regularly, the US players likely would adapt after a few calls and that would be it) but the fact that the international refs knowingly refuse to call a violation that they routinely call in Euroleague games. We're used to watching refs like Brazauskas in Euroleague games with their usual cocky and call-it-all attitude, and all of a sudden they "forget" such a basic violation. As an analogy, think what would happen if NBA refs suddenly decided not to call the moving screens set up by international players playing in the NBA "because in FIBA they're not used to that rule", and that this rule exception for certain players was not written anywhere.

But that should not be an excuse. Like I said before, I feel that the US deserved the win anyway, and by the way this was an awesome game, I strongly encourage those of you who missed it to watch it, it was a thing of beauty. Spain played a great game and fought really hard for the gold, they did not feel it was enough for them to be in the final, they put up a big challenge and forced the US to play their best which they did, so a lot of credit to the american team which is a deserving winner.

It was a beautiful game that any hoops fan can appreciate, many in the media are calling it the greatest match ever in international ball. As a spaniard, I am sad that we lost (we really had a chance for the glory there) but I'm happy with the performance of my national team and very very happy as a basketball fan in general.

by Sergi P on Aug 25, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

I just wanted to point out how totally awesome Bosh was throughout. Check out the raw data;

http://sonicscentral.com/apbrmetrics/viewtopic.php?t=1871&sid=c98721f28fad285c89f3a6cdc41bfbef

by bedhead on Aug 25, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

"Assistant GM: Malone is black!"

...still laughing...

by rapzzzzzz on Aug 25, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Hmm.. wasn't he Mexican?

by Tinman on Aug 25, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Sergi, thanks for clarifying that, it is good to see things from a different perspective and you regularly help us regulars here with that.

Another question I have for you is whether or not Spain thought that missing Jose had any effect on the final outcome of this match. I know Calderon was a little hot and cold for the Olympics, but he seemed to be stepping up for the big games.

Malone is black! Lol, I thought he played for Utah!

by Robert Archibald on Aug 26, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Sergi P, the rule for traveling is exactly the same in the NBA as in Fiba, just, in the states, it is seldom applied literally. Irrespective of the influence it had had on the final outcome it has been a shame to see that rule applied differently in different games throughout the same tournament, in accordance to whether the American team was playing yes or no. For sure in , let's say Argentina Lithuania the rule was applied differently.

by renato on Aug 26, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Robert: it is hard to say, on one side it is natural to think that with Calderon playing Spain would have had a better chance, specially since the starting PG was only 17 years old and had a minor finger injury in the first quarter, while the backup Raul Lopez got 3 fouls quickly and had to be pulled early.

On the other hand, I think Jose's absence left a lot more minutes and touches for Juan Carlos Navarro, who can easily can get hot (like he did) if he plays with confidence. So yeah, Jose playing surely would have helped, but maybe also at the expense of Navarro or Rudy's shots. Also, with Navarro and Ricky Spain had a pretty correct play at the PG, so I don't think Jose would have altered the outcome unless he was particularly inspired.

Anyway after the Olympics I'm even more excited about the Raps next season, I think Bosh can thrive in this role where he doesn't need to be always the primary scoring option and can help a lot in many more aspects of the game. If JO does his thing and Bargnani steps up his game, it is a real possibility than Bosh could score less and still be even more of a factor in this team.

by Sergi P on Aug 26, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Don't we retain the rights to Delfino since no NBA team picked him up and he went to Europe? Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

by Strik on Aug 27, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

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