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Raptors At The Games

The Raps have a vested interest in these Games....

The Raps have a vested interest in these Games....

The make-up of the Toronto Raptors' roster has resulted in more players having summer commitments to their national programs and the results have been mixed.

On one side of the spectrum is Jorge Garbajosa.

Garbo’s desire and commitment to the Spanish team proved costly for the Raps, the end result being a buy-out and a damaged relationship. On the flip side you have CB4 who’s taken the opportunity to play with the world’s best to help better his game and establish himself amongst the elite.

At these Olympics Raps fans will be watching to see how each member of the team is performing. Franchise looked carefully at CB4 earlier this week. Here’s what has gone down in the round-robin (the elimination round started today) for the other members of the Raps.

Jose Calderon

Next to CB4 the Raps most valuable asset playing at the Games is Jose. The Raps are heavily invested in the Spanish Fly having given him both an enormous pay raise and the title of "Raptors Starting Point Guard". Calderon has used past international tournaments to elevate his game and build confidence. All eyes are on the PG to see if he can continue this trend.

Thus far the Spanish team has been a tough one to figure out. At times their player rotations seem completely random and minutes have been sporadic. Calderon’s numbers have also been all over the board. In fact, thus far it would be fair to say that Calderon’s play has been underwhelming. Jose has not been able to score consistently and is shooting a poor percentage (38%). Of course being the PG he could make up for the poor shooting by racking up the assists...but he has not been the facilitator we would all expect either. Through six games Jose has only accumulated 7 assist (including this morning's match-up against Croatia and fellow Raptor Roko Ukic, see below). In his defense though it could be argued that it seems like the score keepers have been extremely stingy with giving out dimes.

Lucky for the Spaniards they have a great deal of talent at the guard position. With players like Rudy Fernandez, Juan Carlos Navarro, and future first rounder Ricky Rubio on the roster, Calderon doesn’t have to shoulder too much of the load. For Raps' fans his performance is somewhat concerning, however, the silver lining is that his limited game time reduces the risk of injury and still allows him to work off some rust prior to camp.

What has been particularly interesting is that Calderon has been asked to play the off-guard spot at times. I doubt this is something that Mitchell would consider, in particular if Calderon is shooting 38%, but it has been interesting to see.

Roko Ukic

From one point guard to the next…

Roko’s experience has now come to an end having been eliminated this morning by the Spanish team, but his Olympic experience has been a positive one. The knock on Roko has been a lack of both playing time and experience. This Olympic tournament ended up being just what the doctor ordered. Ukic has played a heavy number of minutes for his Croatian team (sometimes leading the team) and hopefully took a lot from the experience.

Roko's led the charge for Croatia...

Roko's led the charge for Croatia...

On a whole Roko played well and demonstrated an ability to contribute in a variety of ways. Over the six games played he averaged 7.5 points, 3.5 boards and 1.5 assists. The biggest concern at this point is just how trigger happy he is. Roko seems to have little to no fear when it comes to shooting the rock and on most occasions was the team leader in this category as well. His willingness to take on the role of scorer is likely a partial reflection of the fact that this Croatian team is not overly talented. Unfortunately a high shot count does not necessarily translate into high shooting percentage. Ukic has shot a measly 32% from the field. You have to hope that once he gets into training camp and is surrounded by better players, that he will quickly make the adjustment from scorer to facilitator.

Having been eliminated he will have the rest of the summer to work on this transition and also get himself established in Toronto.

Giorgos Printezis

One guy who may not be on your radar this tournament is the Raps second round pick from last year, Giorgos Printezis. Playing on the national team from Greece, Printezis is basically the 12th man on this talented squad and minutes are tough to come by. That being said he has been given the opportunity to shine in the right circumstances.

Against Americans and the Chinese GP found himself stapled to the end of the bench for most of the game and he barely saw any action. On the flip-side in the blow-out games against Angola and Germany the Greece national coach used the opportunity to give the young guy some burn. The result, were surprising. In those two games GP played 22 minutes and scored 20 points. He also managed three rebounds and an assist. A point per minute in the Olympics, no matter who the opponent, is impressive.

It is up for debate whether Printezis will ever don the Raps uni and it may never happen. Nevertheless Printezis has held his own when given the opportunity and having an athletic SF prospect stored away in Europe is not a bad thing for the franchise. That being said don’t expect this guy to play much today in the quarterfinal match-up against Argentina.

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Seems like there's a different coach for spain these days, wasn't it some wild hair guy? Maybe this is the problem with jose. From my small amount of watching, jose and everyone just seems constantly out of position and plays are just shut down before they start and they end up doing a lot of one on one/five. Maybe also jose is being asked to score based on his raps scoring this year, and his scoring is not the flow of the game as they say. Sergi?

by axl on Aug 20, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Hey fellow Rap fans. I am still waiting for someone to respond to my question from the last post. Where can we watch the basketball games over here? Is anyone going to show the Greece vs. Argentina game following the US game? Please help!!!!

by Assistant GM on Aug 20, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

For those interested, I have shared some info on Printezis in the last post.

by Assistant GM on Aug 20, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

It looks like Ricky Rubio even got the start over vs. Croatia.

Nice to see JC's shooting improve though.

I didn't get to see Prientzis play so thanks to all for there updates.

I'm starting to feel a little better about Ukic and I get the feeling that he might be a steal for the $ he's getting.

However, my biggest disappointment has been watching Garbo. While his stats haven't blown me away, the deflected passes, assists from the top of the key and his ability to defend multiple positions has me questioning the decision to cut him loose. We definitely could have used this guy this year.

Still dont know why Jawai wasn't on the lackluster Assie team.

Sorry Asst. GM. I'm hit and miss with getting these games.

by sharpy on Aug 20, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Let's hope that Jose's groin injury is not serious and will be fully recovered by the time the Raptors training camp starts.
Judging by the comments below, it does not appear to be too worrisome.
Worryingly for Spain, Jose Manuel Calderon had to leave the game in the fourth quarter with a groin injury.

"He felt a pain," Garcia Reneses said to FIBA.com. "We don’t know his condition, but we hope to have him available for the semi-finals."

Calderon said he stopped as a precaution but would have tests on the groin.

He finished with 10 points, making both of his three-pointers

by Brian Gerstein on Aug 20, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

I realise this is a little bit off topic but something has been bothering me about Canada's International Basketball Program. Namely, I look at the standings on the Women's side and notice powerhouses like New Zealand (made up of like 4 million people and 40 million sheep) and Mali (really, Mali) both making the Olympics but our women's program couldn't make it? This is less prevelant on the men's side obviously as the competition is so much stronger in Men's competition then in the Women's. The fact that neither team made the olympics (especially the women's) should be a major concern. I mean are Canadian Women so weak that they can't earn a spot against powerhouses such as South Korea, Mali and New Zealand? Doesn't every Canadian University of note have a Women's basketball team and is there not a few canadian women in the US College ranks as well. Shouldn't Canada be able to cobble together a team to compete at an international level? I am really getting frustrated with Basketball Canada as they seem unable to move the program forward in any semblance. In fact, it seems that we have moved backwards as if you think about it, Canada's only success internationally was due to a single player (Steve Nash). The worst part is, as an observer we are all completely helpless as this idiocy continues unabated. It's not like we can elect a new head of Basketball Canada (wouldn't that be nice). If you doubt that the program is moving backward all you have to do is look at the coaching. Triano may not have been the best coach in the world but if you are going to fire him shouldn't you replace him with someone with actual coaching experience? Rautins may one day be the greatest coach in history but currently he has 0 head coaching experience and almost 0 asst coaching experience. The irony was that Triano was getting coaching experience with the Raptors and that was used as one of the reasons for firing him (he couldn't commit to the team full time). Having a full time coach hasn't helped our program in any way shape or form. In fact, as stated earlier, it has regressed. At least Triano could get Nash to play for him, Rautins has failed to get a single player of substance to stick with the program. It is all well to play like a team and all that BS that Rautins has spun to mask the fact our team sux but there is talent there for the men's program and if you can't find a way to kiss a little ass in order to make the program work then what use are you? It's not like Dalembert was the only player who disappeared from the program at a time when we needed them most.
Ok, I realise that I meandered a little through that but my overall point is that there is a failure from top to bottom to improve the Basketball program internationally and it start's at the top. I don't know who is in charge of Basketball in Canada but they should be fired immediately and replaced with someone who knows what they are doing (if I recall there are a few people who are currently without GM jobs in the NBA who could be wooed for a couple of million per, hell why not hire Babcock).

by McGateway on Aug 20, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Jose should shut it down: a minor groin injury will easily become a major one if the player puts more stress on the muscle. As much as I like Jose if he continues playing I will lose all my respect for him.

by Daniel on Aug 20, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

mcgateway, I'll toss something in - I think the worst part is the lack of bball breeding grounds. There just aren't enough kids playing at a young age, not enough secondary schools emphasizing it, and finally our university level programs lag behind in funding and fan support. I'd like to see our university/college teams join the NCAA and have the schools go after fans like minor hockey teams do in this country. The situation is not going to improve while there's tumbleweeds blowing through the stand at every game.

I'm no rautins fan, but who is else is out there? Mike Smrek? Well maybe that's a thought.

by axl on Aug 20, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Watch online:

http://www.mundocramex.blogspot.com/

by Sonnyb on Aug 20, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Axl, answering your question, yeah the coaching change has a lot to do with it. The new coach has some wild ideas about rotations so Jose (and many others) plays just for little stints of 5-6 minutes where the coach demands high defensive intensity and then gets benched for a rest. I think it is this unusual distribution of minutes, plus the emergence of Ricky Rubio, which is limiting Jose's game and confidence. Some players like Pau, Rudy or Ricky have adapted fine while others (like Navarro and maybe Jose too) are having a harder time with it. On one side it is a good thing for the Raps that he is not lodging too many minutes (20mpg), but his confidence is still not quite the same, and some in the spanish press are calling for coach Aito to limit Ricky's minutes and just give the lion's share to Calderon. As for starting or not, this is no big deal with this coach, it is quite usual that some players from the starting lineup end up playing less minutes than some players coming from the bench.

As for his injury, I can only add that he will reportedly pass a medical exam tonight but the player said he doesn't think it will be that serious as to prevent him from playing in the semifinal.

by Sergi P on Aug 20, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

interesting, thanks sergi

by axl on Aug 20, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Assistant GM - Thanks for the Printezis info. Was at work early this morning so not sure what they did schedule wise about the Greece vs. Argentina game.

Here are the two schedules I've been using though for the games:

http://www.cbc.ca/olympics/schedule/daily/2008/08/15/basketball/

http://www.tsn.ca/olympics/feature/?fid=10580

by Franchise on Aug 20, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

There are plenty of coaches out there you might convince to coach the Canadian National Program (assuming you are willing to spend the money). I threw out Popovich and Sloan earlier this summer (they would be expensive) but I was using them as examples of the kind of coaches we should be targeting. There are a ton of College coaches who might be willing to take on a national program assuming their season's wouldn't be disrupted. But if Coach K can coach the US national program why can't we get someone of at least that calibre to coach Canada? If Rautins or Triano acted as an assistant, they would get the needed experience behind a name coach they need. Where does it say that we have to have a Canadian born coach to coach the team? Other teams use foreign coaches and the Canadian soccer program has used European coaches before (and I think they still do).

by McGateway on Aug 20, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

this is completely unrelated but Donyell Marshall was released today from oklohoma city....do the raps have any spots left for him?

by big d on Aug 20, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Good to see others as concerned about the Canadian National program as the Raps. Frankly, I'm not sure how to fix the obvious problem. Maybe the new board (which includes BC) is a step towards adding some stability and long-term thinking but who knows at this point.

On Printezis, does anyone know how long he's under contract to Olympiacos and what his buyout is? He's a 2nd round pick so he's not subject to the rookie cap which means to come over here he will need a salary that permits him to earn on top of whatever his buyout is. Or he can just wait until his contract is up and decide whether its worthwhile to come to the NBA.

by Sam on Aug 20, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

I believe Printezis has two more years left on his contract with Olympiakos.

by Assistant GM on Aug 20, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/ian_thomsen/08/19/jermaine0825/index.html

Promising article about Jermaine O'neal

by Jbee33 on Aug 21, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

This is from Doug Smith's blog. Great news, as we will not have a repeat of what Garbo did to the Raps! At least Jose knows where his bread is buttered.

Speaking of Jose, he’s to have an MRI late today here (or just a while ago depending on when I get this blog posted) and I’m told by Someone Who’d Know that he won’t step on the court for Friday’s semifinal against Argentina unless he’s 100 per cent. He’s given his word to the Raptor bosses and there’s no reason to think he’d go back on it.

by Brian Gerstein on Aug 21, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Spain fyi is playing Lithuania per schedule.

by Davl on Aug 21, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Calderon has played 3 good games and 3 not so good. I think it has a lot to do with the new coach, starting and not starting. Vs Greece 5/8-13 pts,vs Germany 5/8-15pts, vs Croatia 4/5-10 pts.
Vs US,China,Angola 2/19-6 pts combined. Looks like he played better vs the EU teams.

by Johnn19 on Aug 21, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

In the end Calderon did not play because of his injury in Spain's hard-fought win over Lithuania in the first semifinal.

by Sergi P on Aug 22, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

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