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Workouts for June 21, 2008 – Speights Comes to T.O.

One more big crossed off the list...Speights works out for the Raps this morning...

One more big crossed off the list...Speights works out for the Raps this morning...

Before we get into basketball talk this morning…um…CITO FREAKIN’ GASTON??? Isn’t that like the Raptors dumping Sam Mitchell and rehiring Butch Carter? Ok…not quite but talk about grasping at straws. And I’m not even a big baseball guy!

Anyways, back to the ball talk as there is plenty of it.

Today we’ll be taking in another workout at the ACC getting a look at Florida’s Mareese Speights. Originally four players were expected to participate at this morning’s workout however it now sounds like only two will be present. Mick Tuck, a Canadian kid who played at Loyola was brought in as a replacement for Thursday’s workout instead of Nicolas Batum, and it sounds like Hofstra forward Antoine Aguido won’t be around today either.

So that leaves two power forwards on tap for today. Let’s take a look at each:

MAREESE SPEIGHTS
Who is he?
6-10 Sophomore Power Forward from Florida.

Last Year: Averaged 14.5 points and 8.1 rebounds per 24 minutes of action for the Gators.

What Can He Do? Speights played under in the shadow of Florida’s amazing crop of forwards a year ago and therefore really only got to show what he could do this year. After averaging only about five minutes a game in 2006-07, he became one of the go-to guys for the Gators last year, even without playing exhaustive minutes. He’s a big body who can defend, block shots and score off the blocks. Some see him as an Elton Brand type because of his athleticism and soft hands while others have even gone so far as to compare him to Al Jefferson.

Like Jefferson when he first declared for the draft, conditioning issues swirl around Speights so it will be interesting to see him up close today. Speights plays tough around the rim but some wonder if he’s sort of a big version of a tweener, stuck between a 4 and a 5, and a player who falls in love with his jump shot too often.

The Bottom Line: Speights is probably one of the most talented players in this draft. Had he gone back to Florida and dominated he would have been a sure-fire lottery pick next year. So the question then is, should the Raptors take a look at him at 17 if he really is the "best talent left on the board" at that point in time? I think so, even if he doesn’t quite fit either of the positions Toronto is really looking for help with.

Having watched him play with the Gators last year, Speights is obviously still quite raw as in many ways, last year was his freshman season. He did put on some dominant performances throughout the year and in many ways, the Al Jefferson comparison seems quite understandable. This would be another pick that the Raptors would have to be patient with in terms of development but at 17, there aren’t many better options if Toronto is looking for strictly the best talent, and not a perfect line-up fit.

WILL DANIELS
Who is he?
6-8 Senior forward from Rhode Island.

Last Year: Averaged 18.6 points and 6.5 rebounds for the Rams.

What Can He Do? Daniels flew under the radar for many scouts playing for Rhode Island. He had a good career with the Rams but is definitely a tweener as he lacks a strong low-post game and is not a great perimeter shooter either. However in college he showed a great understanding of the game, good scoring skills, and an ability to take advantage of size mismatches, especially on the blocks against smaller 3’s and 4’s.

The Bottom Line: Daniels won’t be an option at 17 for Toronto but it will be interesting to see how he works out against the bigger and stronger Speights. Some see Daniels being able to play the "undersized power forward card" ala Udonis Haslem and Leon Power but right now, he’s not as quick or athletic as either. However he does have a great basketball IQ and was a leader throughout his college career so perhaps some seasoning overseas or in the D League will help him find a niche in the NBA.

Conclusion:

It’s too bad the Raptors couldn’t have gotten a few more types of bigs in for today’s workout. Seeing Speights go against athletes like De Andre Jordan or JaVale McGee would have been interesting or even smaller 3-4’s like Darrell Arthur. However right now it’s just a hope that Speights shows and with him crossed off the list, the only legit prospects Toronto has not seen are probably the aforementioned three bigs, Jordan, McGee and Arthur. All in all, not to bad considering the reported problems some teams are having with getting to see players.

The question now is, will we see any recalls? Toronto has gotten a good look at almost everyone they wanted to for the 17th spot, so now is there anyone in particular they’d like to see again, perhaps in conjunction with a few other "recall" prospects. For me personally, a workout consisting of Speights, Ajinca, Hibbert and Lopez, with maybe Rush and CDR or Greene added on would be well worth the price of admission.

FRANCHISE

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A lot of people have been saying we need a big for toughness and rebounding and have been mentioning Hibbert.

The guy has averaged 6.9,6.4 and 6.4 rebounds in his last three seasons. You dont' put up bigger numbers when you get to the NBA.

If your 7'2 and a senior and you can only grab 6 and a half rebounds your not going to help an NBA team. Plus his scoring average went from 11.6 to 13.4 from his sophmore to senior season. That leads me to believe that his potential to be a scorer down low is 0.

Moving on I have become a fan of Speights. Doesn't have the higher of Hibbert however as a sophmore he already averages more points and rebounds than Hibbert, plus he's got a lot more athletisism so his potential at the next level will be way higher.

Lopez and Speights are the only 2 big men who will be available when the Raps pick that I would be ok with. Don't want Hibbert, McGee or Kofous.

For the guards/wings players the guys I'd like to see the Raps pick are:

CDR, Rush then Batum.

Word on the internet is Batum might have some heart problem and Donte Green will be gone before the Raptors pick.

by wtf on Jun 21, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh and just a bit of extra info:

Denham Brown will not be on team Canada because he failed to show up.

by wtf on Jun 21, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Just came back from seeing Speights WTF...not sure about his athleticism as Shaun Pruitt (Illinois) looked better in the individual testing...

by Franchise on Jun 21, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Assorted Draft Comments

-I can't overlook Hibbert's lack of athleticism and mobility, if he doesn't make it up be being a dominant post player / rebounder in his area.

-Concur on Lopez and Speights.
However, with some college heights being notoriously overstated, I wonder if Speights is a legit 6'10.

-Ajinca is very intriguing (more well rounded skills then mcgee), but he seems like more of a 7 foot PF then a centre.

-McGee and Jordan (too risky)

-Koufos and Arthur
I could see them being a value picks, target for a team that wants to trade up to Raptors pick.

The news about Batum's heart is discouraging. I was hoping he'd be the Raptors pick.
I thought he was the player in the Raptors draft range with the best combination of foundation of skills, size, athleticism, versatility, high ceiling and reasonable floor in terms of potential.

by yardly on Jun 21, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for the tip Franchise, I was basing the athletic ability on the two game I saw him play in and what I have been reading online....however I don't think there is any substitute for seeing things in person.

by wtf on Jun 21, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Apparantly Tayshaun Prince is on the market. He would sure look good in a Raptor Jersey, but I don't think we have anything the Pistons would want, that we would give up.

I would presonally be willing to give up Andrea and TJ for Prince and Detroits first rounder but I know BC won't do that and the pistons don't seem to be fans of good shooting big European. Maybe another team needs to get involved that needs a point and has something Detroit wants. Portland, Denver, Clippers and Cleavland come to mind.

by Rahulan on Jun 21, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

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