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Tip-In: Toronto Raptors Post Game – A Guessing Game

Huh. This doesn't look like the Raps vs. Clips......

Huh. This doesn't look like the Raps vs. Clips......

The season is right around the corner and there’s no doubt I’m fired up. As Franchise mentioned yesterday, Friday night was our annual fantasy basketball draft. There are few occasions when a bunch of 20 and 30 something’s can get together, wear jerseys that are much too tight and act like children. It’s pure jokes and tons of fun.

Now that everyone has their fantasy rosters in place, watching games and looking at box scores takes on a new importance. Outside of the HQ I now have even more reason to watch the Raps as my team features one Jose Calderon. With the Raps set to play the Clippers I was set to watch my new PG do his thing.

It didn’t happen.

Close to game time that I realized the Raps were not going to be on television. Although I was disappointed I was still committed to following the game. The plan was to listen in online via the NBA League Pass.

Wrong again.

The broadcast from NBA.com was not functioning and as a result I was left with the box-score. Yes, a box score was the best I could do.

Now it seems to me if you are trying to sell a product you need to put it in front of people as much as possible. Remember when Apple came out with the Ipod and buildings and billboards alike were covered with dancing silhouettes on a brightly coloured background? Apple was selling a new product and it was everywhere. Apparently the league is not taking that approach.

Now I am not a hockey fan nor do I follow it, but by all accounts it is going to be a long season in Leaf land. If that’s the case is now not the perfect time for the Raptors to take the limelight? For a franchise committed to growing interest in the game in Canada doesn’t putting the product in front of people at every opportunity seem like a no brainer?

It's only a blip on the radar screen but it is a missed opportunity.

With only a box score to look at I won’t be making an attempt at a recap. I am sure everyone has seen the stats and frankly it looks like we missed a solid game. Jermaine clearly had his best pre-season game and so did Bosh. On paper it looks like we missed the first true showing of Toronto’s version of the twin towers. It would have been interesting to see how Jermaine scored against a solid big man like Chris Kaman and how he and Bosh were playing off each other. It also would have been interesting to see how O’Neal managed the 5 blocks. When was the last time a Toronto big man had 5 blocks?! Anyone?

Ladies and Gentlement, you're new starting SF?!

Ladies and Gentlemen, your new starting SF?!

Of course there are a few interesting things to note, including a second consecutive start by Joey Graham. Although he did little on the offensive end perhaps more noteworthy is that he managed 5 boards and only one personal foul.

It also seems that the back-up PG situation is no more clear today then it was earlier this pre-season. Ukic and Solomon both played a handful of minutes and neither did anything of note stats wise.

The last stat that jumps off the page to me is the number of times the Raps got to the line. Making 33 trips to the line is a great sign. Getting to the line, in particular on the road, would be tremendously beneficial as the season wears on.

Outside of the above you’ll have to use your imagination which may not be a bad thing. You may have to use your imagination a number of times this season if Rogers doesn’t manage to get TSN2 on their slate of sports channels.

In a world where technology puts everything at your finger tips its amazing that Raps games are getting harder and harder to see or for that matter, listen to.

HOWLAND

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watched to play by play on espn gamecast. Not great but better than box scores. Note AB did not play???Rest???

Ukic played well couple of turnovers which costs points. High scoring percentage and good assists numbers. I like Him better than WS

wish we could of at least had sound.

by Davl on Oct 18, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

scratch that high scoring percentage 2 for 3 with 3 assists. I still like Him better than WS. Needs more playing time to get better.

by Davl on Oct 18, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

BIG's Night out:
Bosh 8/17-9/9fts-26pts-11rbs
O'Neal 7/15-6/6fts-20pts-9rbs
Humph 5/9-2/2fts-12pts-4rbs
Ukic 2/3-4/5fts-3ast-8pts
Nobody else was able to make a shot, won it a FT line 27/33. Andrea, Camby,Davis did not play, thru injury.

by Johnn19 on Oct 18, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Tie Goes to the prospect I think. You gotta play ukic! Play him initially until he hits a rookie wall and then bring Solo

by Sho on Oct 19, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Apparently bargs has a minor leg bruise.

http://www.torontosun.com/sports/basketball/2008/10/19/7134891-sun.html

by axl on Oct 19, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Assistant GM, why do you want to argue with me? You know the facts. You don't need to hide or underplay the information. We had the #17 pick, but we traded it away as part of the JO deal. At #17 we could have picked up Roy Hibbert. And TJ Ford is a much better back up than Ukic or WS. Nobody would argue against this fact.

Anyway, let's drop this conversation and just wait till the season plays out. I probably am wrong. JO will probably have an all star like season and Hibbert will be a bench warmer. But, just imagine if JO fell flat on his face after the all star break and Hibbert got progressively better as the season went along. We would be the laughing stock of the NBA!

I also may be wrong about Bargnani, but we still have to wait until the season starts. How is he going to deal with his new injury? Remember, last year he had a really good first week of games, but as the season unfolded and took it's path, he was basically useless. I'm just looking for some consistency from him. If Bargnani stays consistent then it will show that his confidence has come back and will be a player that we can rely on. Right now he's averaged double figures in points for the preseason which is great!!

Bargnani will never ever be a number one pick of draft value, but if he delivers consistency then he becomes a player of value. As Smitch puts it, he can score, rebound, and shoot 3s. But, he only averages 3 'bleeping' rebounds a game the same amount than a PG averages, and that's a joke. Seriously Smitch, you call Bargnani a contributing player who only averages 3 rebounds a game, no wonder our defence was so soft last year and this year when our bench players are playing.

by BargsBust on Oct 19, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Don't like the sound of this injury to Bargs no matter how minor. This guy needs to get off to a good start this season so being a 100 per cent healthy would help.

On the funny side, anyone try listening to the NBA.com audio feed last night only to hear baseball and someone dialling a phone after that? It was like someone at NBA HQ was flicking through channels trying to find the Clips game, then felt like ordering a pizza, not realizing the audio was live...

by Franchise on Oct 19, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Using last nights boxscore as my only point of reference, Ukic put up some good numbers in limited minutes.
Have been waiting for a game like that from our bigs all preseason - shame Camby was out. Him and Kaman will be a tough tandem on the boards.

BBust - most of your comments are so negative that they solicit reprisals. Some have morsels of truth, for you to attempt to justify, guess your just a "glass half empty" type of guy.

Preseaon is still in progress, and by all accounts it appears to be successfull one. I like the way Sam has dished out the minutes, increasing our starters as it progresses. I like what I see from Bargnani and Kapono, Moon and Parker can handle their roles. Between Solomon and Ukic(and I really like Ukic) one will step up. Humphries will be a solid bigman off the bench. And call me freakin crazy but I think Joey Graham will finally play to his potential. Of yeah, Bosh, Calderon and O'Neal are potential allstars. Bosh is a lock, Calderon should be, and O'Neal will be again. Hmm - guess my glass is full.

by Tinman on Oct 19, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Last time a Toronto player got 5 blocks? My first guess was Camby, but a little digging...

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/andrea_bargnani/career_stats.html

Andrea Bargnani
6 vs. Golden State 12/17/06

by yardly on Oct 19, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Ha! That's perfect considering some of the comments made by certain posters!

by OneandDone on Oct 19, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Roy Hibbert will be garbage in my opinion. He's too fat and slow to do anything at a high level in the NBA. He might have an impressive rookie season but thats only because he's not coming in as a freshman or sophmore. He'll suffer from Channing Frye syndrome basically.

Andrea seems to have really improved but still has miles to go. However for this season as long as JO is healthy his production won't be that important in terms of wins and losses.

Its great watching the preseason games, can't describe how happy I am when JO gets the ball and actually backs his man down in the post. When was the last time that ever happened with the Raptors? Bosh and Bargs always face up and cannot play back to the basket.

Can't wait for the season to start...

by wtf on Oct 19, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Late breaking news...Raptors TV will be showing the Raptors vs Lakers game at 10:30 eastern. LIVE! Yeah baby yeah!

by OneandDone on Oct 19, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Howland-Welcome to my world, living in Scotland I almost never get to see live NBA, not to mention Raps. Whats more, Although I have a beautiful farmhouse in the country, I don't have broadband, so no NBA podcast. Though I am such a huge fan I watch the boxscore slowly update - i dunno whether to be proud or embarrassed.

by Robert Archobald on Oct 19, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

PS - and I do it at 1:30 in the morning. I am a loser...

by Robert Archibald on Oct 19, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

I really like our starting 5. If JG can consistently go to the line 6 times a game that will help out our team win so many more games because we'll be able to get easy baskets! He's just as athletic as JM but more because he's willing to go to the hoop (there you go tinman, a half full perspective).

I also see our bench play getting better as the season goes along. It's too much to ask for our backup PG to direct offense when these players haven't had enough time together.
I'm happy how we played as a team against the Lakers, who are supposed to win the championship. We played the Lakers a full 3 quarters, but ran out of gas in the end.

I really don't understand why Bosh and JO get so few shots in this game though. Are they just being really unselfish or are they not getting the touches. Why is Bargnani taking the most shots? I don't understand Smitch's logic here.

Robert Archibald, We at the Raptorshq don't think that you're a loser. You do something that you love. I know your half joking, but seriously, if it makes you happy to follow the Raptors then do it. Life is too short to be upset about small things.

by BargsBust on Oct 19, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

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