From Kapono to Darko - Early Free Agency Thoughts

Just say no to The Bradley.

On hoopshype.com today, some spanish internet site was listed with a headline of "Navarro signed with the Grizzlies".

I still think that the Raps need an agressive rebounder/shot-blocker more than a 3rd string PG.

Maybe someone can convince this dude to play for the Raps:

http://sports-ak.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=28001

over 6 blocks a game!!!

I still think this is the beginning of the summer, and not the fall so many moves are still ahead. Like last year the draft was just the start. Come late July, early August, I have this feeling there will be weekly press conferences again.

If there's anything I like about BC, is that he knows what he wants and has a vision, as opposed to the other GMs in this city. Thank goodness JFJ or Riccardi are not involved with the Raps.

Franchise, please note re your against Kapono:

Kapono is a brilliant addition by Colangelo that helps correct a weakness in 3pt FG's. The cost of $20/24 mil for 4 years is a very competive one when you compare the cost vs MoPete of $18 mil for 4 yrs,his current contract and the improvement in Shooting % from 35 to 51% 3's and 42 to 48% on 2's, which by the way represent 65% of K's shots. He is not just a 3 point specialist, even though he leads the NBA, as well as Steve Kerr as the best 3pt shooter in NBA History.

Let's consider a couple of examples ie: Walton is resigning with LAL for 6yrs @ 5 mil per 30mil and just announced Carrol is resigning with Charlotte for 4.5mil for 6yrs 27mil.
Both are resigning with current teams and neither is an NBA or career leader in anything.

Colangelo signed a Free Agent, an NBA and career leader in 3pt FG % to fit a specific team need for an increase of 1.5mil/yr and without any competition from other teams because he was first and decisive with what he wanted.

Colangelo is not the 2 time Executive of the year by mistake.

rashad lewis and vince carter are both worthy of the money they make it doesnt matter that vince is 30 he is still one of the most explosove players if not the most explosive player in the NBA and rashad lewis is a 6'10 small forward who can really play granted he did defer to ray allen in seattle but now that hes with orlando watch for him to step up and i dont even care about what carter did to toronto to say hes not worth the money he is making is just stupid

"Morris Peterson, Rasho Nesterovic and Joey Graham to Orlando for Milicic"

Let it be from your lips to God's ears.

Milicic is carrying the baggage of being a too-high draft pick ahead of Wade et al, but if I'm not mistaken he's younger than Tiago Splitter, has NBA experience, and still has the potential to develop into an All-star.

A front court of Bosh, Darko and Bargnani? Fantastically sick.

@ BC re: Mickell Gladness

He's 6'11" and 205 lbs!! Manute Bol, anyone? :P

With Kapono it seems as though BC has:
a) decided the best way to address poor rebounding is to do the same thing he had previously done with PHX-- take more and hit more shots thus eliminating the need for rebounding on the offensive end of the floor.
b)has another move in the wings, possibly Milicic or another big to come in and bang the boards - given that shooting well reduces the need for offensive but not defensive rebounds.
There is a story in today's New York Post suggesting Zeke is considering a way to get Ron Artest to the Knicks, http://www.nypost.com/seven/07042007/sports/knicks/artest_ing_the_market_knicks_marc_berman.htm
He still has the profile (basketball profile, that is) of the kind of SF that would shore up the serious defensive and rebounding needs, along with being able to provide some offense when needed. He would provide the Raps with an elite NBA stopper, somebody who can actually win games on the defensive end, which come playoff time will be obviously critical.
The isssue about Bob Myers and WMG is an interesting one because in European soccer it is a fairly well-established way of doing things where some agents or agencies become the defacto scouting machine for the franchise. It does sometimes become a little too incestuous and has the potential of opening a Pandora's Box of legal conflict of interest issues but it is a trend well worth keeping an eye on.

Milicic is a lazy jerk making 5mil last year and looking for 9/10 mil this year, not a fit for Raptors.

His agent is a jerk too.

Johnn19 - Totally agree. Darko is a bad fit, and it's probably a rumour that's been floated out there. I'm sure we remember in TWO games against the Raptors last year, he lost his cool and almost shoved Grant Hill to the floor. On a team like the Raptors, where his minutes aren't guaranteed, it's just an explosion waiting to happen

Peace,

Excellent reasoning franchise! You statement after 'looking over the evidence' has produced a nice analyzation.

How much news about the raps can we actually take? I'm gonna explode and we still have months away to play? I'm sure we're in for a burn out, lol.

If improvin on nex year is the flex of BC, then I can mos definately appreaciate this vision.

Bring on in a mean hungry big body to fill in the breaches on the defense end, stay healthy and practice all out, I feel we can improve on last year. Even with the slight step up of the East.

One.

The Milicic thing for me comes down to his risk/reward.

7ft C/PFs with his skill set, age and potential don't grow on trees. If we could land him for a package of guys (MoP, Graham, Nesterovich) at the right price to make his contract work, I'd be DELERIOUS.

That said, I did see his volcanic temper flare up against the Raptors, but I chalked that up to two things;

- he's a competitive guy who hates losing
- he's looking for a chance to prove himself.

And yeah, he could be a bust - I admit it.

Milcic would poison the good atmosphere in the locker room. This would not be a positive move for us which is why this isn’t going to happen.

Robert Archibald, (re: post under "Gentlemen, Start Your Engines")

First, I have to say I see your point about O’Neal coming out of HS, but I still think JG needs a little more time before I’m ready to give up on him.

Second, I have to say that when I read your comment I busted a gut. I was in stitches for a good 5 minutes. People attending my conference all around me were trying to figure out what is wrong with me.

Are you out of your mind, Darco, the guy lose his temper when he does not get his way, and I don't find him that good a player, BC knows we need a REBOUNDER and it is his duty to go out and get one, this team deserve a good REBOUNDER, as for baby Vince, he does not deserve his resign amount the guy is one lazy player he is doing the same in Jersey as he did to us, but that's good because he will never win in Toronto again. I'm gone!!

Dan Issel once called Tony Battie, a fifth overall pick, "El Busto".

Battie has nothing on Milicic. He could go down with Ryan Leaf as the worst second overall pick in the history of professional sports. He may have skills, but he lacks the toughness and focus to do anything with them.

He'll never amount to borscht.

If you're looking for rebounding, wouldn't it make more sense to dangle a MoPete sign & trade offer for a young player with some moxie, like Paul Millsap?

I checked out some old vids of our boy Kapono.
He has a solid and a very quick release.
Beautiful to watch!
You leave him open and he will burn you.
Like he did against the Bucks, where he finished with 28 points!!
I mean, does this guy miss?
He's ten times better then MoPete, god bless his hamburger eating heart.
I can't for the endless possibilities of the drive and dish, the raptors are gonna produce next season!
He's gonna be my fantasy player!!
personally i think on paper we got a decent team, i mean think about it..the detroit pistons who had no one to call a star beat a star studded team to win the championship!!
I hope we stay under the radar once the season kicks off...lose a few games here and there..win all the home games..like 5 or 6 in a row and catch people sleeping..then when the all star break is over kill everyone with threeeees!!
So like my Bed is waiting and my Head is 'tired'..time for me to bounce !!
More yelling...gatta lov it

Peas&Luv

I love Kapono!
I think all you hating on this signing are gonna eat your words come november,
bank on it.
And i shall return to rub it in your faces.
And Darko AKA Disastro, is never ever coming to the Raptors!
Bank on it!

Iam out!

I kinda like the Kapono signing too. I think three point specialists are situational players, especially in the playoffs, that you can't judge by season averages (except for 3-pt %). Check out Kerr's stats. In his glory Bulls years from 93-98, which started when he was 28 years old, for those that thought Kapono was too old, he averaged about 8 ppg, 1.5 boards, and a couple of assists. But, he was very useful to that second three-peat to say the least.

It'll be up to how training camp goes, but I think Kapono will actually be starting. He fills the void that Mo Pete left, plus he has some playoff experience, which is a added bonus.

I think we've all been very remiss in our duties as fans. Like it or not, Kapono and Delfino are new additions to the roster right now. What we REALLY need is to figure out the following:

- What nicknames will Swirsky give Kapono and Delfino?
- What will all the broadcasters call the "corner office" that Mo Pete once occupied?

the magic backed out of the qualifying offer to darko because they couldn't afford to re-sign both him and lewis. if the raps were to do a sign and trade for darko the magic would not be able to afford the incoming players... i'd be intrigued if the raps could really unload rasho, graham in a mo pete sign and trade for darko... and i do think those pieces actually make sense for the magic... but i don't think they can afford to do that deal... if they could why let darko go unrestricted?

RE: Swirsky nicknames for Delfino and Kapono

Along with promoting good grammar and bad limericks, I'm always willing to do my job as a fan...

Kapono

Kap-One - was suggested/already hung on him elsewhere.

Deadeye Dick - coincidentally a terrific Kurt Vonnegut novel.

Hawkeye - the lowest powered Avenger.

The Marksman

Sniper

Jace the Ace (which is also my brothers nickname - he's ready to pass it on)

For Delfino

'the Jackal' - off the scale politically incorrect (Carlos the Jackal...get it?), but otherwise I dig this big time.

'Flipper' - Delfino means 'Dolphin' according to both my search engine and what remains of my horrific Spanish. C'mon, who can't get behind 'Flipper'? Doesn't that have Swirsk written all over it? Delfino hits a three and the Swirsk gushes "Flipper is in his tank!" All-right, all-right, I'm moving on.

'The Silver Surfer' - stick with me on this cause I worked hard for it; Argentina is based on the latin 'Argentum' for silver. And who else comes from the land of Silver but the Silver Surfer? (forget Zenn-La already - nerds).

The Ace dishes over to Flipper, back to CB4, he drives, stops, back to Flipper, it's in! Flipper is in his tank! Get out the salami and cheese mama, this game is OVER!

I think I hurt myself.

The quote you have on the home page...

White Raptors?
-by bs33

" Has anyone noticed that all of BC's signings have been white guys... and mostly europeans... nothing againts him but its just kinda funny cause everyone says that "basketball is a black-mans sport" and the Raptors end up getting 3rd seed in the east ..."

This is just crap. Juan Dixon, Fred Jones, Chris Bosh extension, TJ Ford extension...AP is black too.

Does this guy even read what he types?? I guess I know what bs in his handle "bs33" stands for...

Darko on the Raps would make them a very competitive team east or west.
Yet another lefty - they all ride side saddle lol.

BTW, Franchise, if you need images, just goto google, click images, and type in the name. Found dozens of pics of Kaps better than the one you found. Or is it a copyright issue that you are concerned with?

"We have to get him [Kaps]. He's a free agent and that's exactly what we need. Our problem in the Finals was that we didn't have a consistent shooter. When LeBron beat Bowen there was like 3 different Spurs in the paint waiting for him. He would kick it out to a wide open Marshall or Jones but they couldn't buy a bucket. That's why we sign Jason Kapono. Kapono was the best 3PT shooter last year and he atleast has the one thing that plagues this team:CONSISTENCY. He shot 51% from 3 and 49% anywhere else. That means he hit half of his shots! Thats way more than what Marshall and Jones could do. By getting him our starting line-up would be Hughes, Kapono, LeBron, Drew and Z."

written by a Cavs blogger on Qsports forums

hmmm, sounds like the same kinda reasoning we were saying over here.

'- What nicknames will Swirsky give Kapono and Delfino?'

I dunno about nicknames, but any team that tries to double Bosh is getting Kapowned.

"Morris Peterson, Rasho Nesterovic and Joey Graham to Orlando for Milicic"

Would the contracts work there? That would be at least 14.5 million going to Orlando. And Darko will be lucky to sign for much more than 7.

I’m not sure how these things work really, so this is an honest question.

Is Darko a BYC?

Bedhead: those nicknames are awful.

Nicknames should be natural. Unless the guy is coming over with a nickname, I think we just have to wait and see how he fits in before we start forcing nicknames. It reminds me of first year university when the guys on my floor decided that they should give everyone nicknames. These guys were douches, and had the worst, most unnatural and forced nicknames in Saugeen Maitland hall, if not all of Canada. It was embarrassing. I want better for the Raptors than a bunch of first year university milk toast nick names.

In regards to the grammar discussion yesterday: I think it is fairly important. This is a public forum and you are trying to express a thought. Further, grammar is a natural function of the human mind, and unless you ESL, you should be some what familiar with how to construct a sentence. If you have a thought you want to express, type it out and then read it over: you should be able to make the statement somewhat fit for public consumption. If a post has poor grammar, it demonstrates that the poster has not really considered the thought they want to express, or considered the people they are trying to express the though to.

In fairness, due to carelessness or excitement, it is excusable to have the odd mistype. But perpetually expressing ideas in an unclear manner is poor practice, considering we are all here to read and exchange ideas.

>> I don't know about you guys, but I can't wait to hear some quotes from Colangelo, Smitch and Maurizio! I want to know how they intend him to fit, and what circumstances may have went into his signing (other options they considered etc.).

lol, so I made a spelling mistake. Big whoop.

TJ, I am a Saugeen Maitland alumni as well!

I was thinking the same thing about the money, but then stopped myself because this isn't going any further than a couple of misguided posts. BC is not blind, he will not bring in Milcic.

By the way, on the money issue, I could care less if they pay some guy $30/hr or $27M/year. That’s BC’s job and does not concern me in the least. All I care about is the product on the floor.

The only reason I maybe remotely interested is to figure out how much of the MLE is left over for other players. But regardless of whether it was $5M or $6M a year, they don’t have enough left over to sign anyone of consequence. So I for one don’t have the 11th circled on my calendar as the day the cap will be set and Jason’s salary disclosed. Who cares???

Hi guys... bs33 this has nothing to do with signing of white player, most nba players are black yes, but most black player still don't understand about playing in Canada so they don't really want to play here, once we can get to the playoffs then things will change, in the mean time why not get the best of the white players that we can get to bring us to that stage. I'm gone

Ok folks - here's the deal with the money part of the breakdown. I used ESPN.com's trade-checker substituting estimated player salaries for those who are currently in "free-agent" status. However I agree, it's a slightly simplistic take as the financial success of such a deal would also depend on other factors including what amount Darko is looking for, the length of the deal, what Rashard's final salary is (which would give a more exact idea of Orlando's cap space) and what this season's salary cap will actually be.

And yes, if Darko and his agent are looking for something upwards of $10 million a season, then in all likelyhood this deal wouldn't work as the Raptors would have to take on more salary to free up cap space for Orlando's new incoming players. And with the Raptors now sitting around the cap themselves, that's just not going to be feasible.

Wolfinsuitsclothing - Interesting thoughts on Artest, that could probably be an article onto itself. You raised some good points about him while we were watching the draft and you've gotta wonder just what Sacto will do with a number of their players this off-season. I mean, has anyone seen such a successful team fall off the map so quickly before?? Maybe the Bulls but they seemed to lose all their pieces at once...not so with the Kings.

Bedhead - Nicknames are jokes...and yeah, unfortunately I can hear Swirsky going off about "flipper." (Shudder.) At least I won't have to listen to any more "MP3 download" jokes...

PS - Gerry - You guessed it in regards to the images...

All I have to say is if the Raptors give up that much for a player like Darko, there is something wrong, that's a Babcock move..

I take all the criticism to heart, and genuinely feel shame for my suggestions.

Except for Flipper.

I'm never going to be able to hear 'Delfino' now without thinking 'dolphin=flipper'.

Yes, I know it's bad, but I think I'm stuck with it until something more memorable comes along.

I also dig the 'Kapowned!' suggestion too - that's way better than anything I suggested.

As for the whole Darko contract thing, I'm starting to get confused.

I thought that Rasho made pretty significant bucks, and that if Darko's contract was only in the $7M range we wouldn't need to throw in Kilo-Graham and Mo-Pete to get it to work (though they can have both given who we just brought in), and in fact the additional salaries may make another player coming back from the Magic necessary.

As for the Darko haters, what can I say, the kid is still just 22. Sure he's had a rough four years (playing in the NBA since he was 18!), and he's shown a lot of rough edges, but I still see someone who has another level he can reach.

Marcia gets excited about the need for the Raps to pursue rebounding, and to a point, I agree (I agree we need it, I disagree that that means we shouldn't have signed he leagues best 3 point shooter in Kapono).

Darko's numbers in limited minutes have risen every year, and he now gets 5.5 RPG - which, if you compare with Rasho who gets more minutes, projects as an efficient replacement.

The bigger obstacles to Darko being a Raptor than talent are;

- Contract size
- His wonderlic scores
- Does the Magic even want the guys we'd be offering in the sign and trade?

And the first time Delfino wins us a game with some clutch shot I'm getting a jersey with his number and Flipper on the back.

I don't really think we need a rebounder so much as to improve our team rebounding. I'm not a huge fan of Darko, but he would be a depth improvement at the very least. I don't see him starting at C, and I mean, off the bench?

Rasho brings some decent veteran presence that this team needs, and I doubt that Colangelo will move him. If you move Rasho, the next most experienced guy on the Roster is what, Bosh, and now Kapono (who has a ring, IIRC)?
Unless they keep Martin of course.

Honestly though, with how well everyone played last year, I'd be really reticent to change another few bodies on the roster -- we've already changed two.

They won 20 games over their previous season, and that old adage "if it ain't broke don't fix it" leaps to mind.

I think the only way we can get Darko is by moving Rasho's contract. Orlando can't take the contract without going into the luxury, and they wouldn't want him anyways. He'd be an 8 million dollar back up for them.

Plus, if we take on much more salary, we go into the luxury as well. Which BC has stated he does not want to do.

It seems we will have to wait untill next off season untill we sign anyone of significance. Till then we will be relying on small pick ups, and BC's trading abilities.

Could be worse, we could be relying on BCocks trading abilities!

... "The biggest obstacle to Darko being a Raptor than talent are...."

- His bitching over a lack of playing time (remember, Bargs will get 35+ minutes this year at the C spot if he can handle it, and Garbo will hopefully be healthy enough to play 4 and even small-ball 5 as a back-up) will DESTROY clubhouse chemistry. Controversy just seems to surround him: with his angry agent; to criticisms of him dogging it in Detroit; to the burden of living up to the #2 pick, much as Kwame as a #1 and, ugh, Hoffa as a #8.

By extension, I don't want to hear about Artest. I'm surprised he and Bibby didn't come to blows last year. Same with the Kobe talk from a few weeks back, but his teammates are too scared (and talentless) to fight back -- his public dissing of Bynum was inexcusable.

One of the main reasons of the Raps success last season (and hopefully going forward) was great team chemistry. Rasho, Joey, MoPete and even TJ (in the playoffs) did not complain about lack or reduced playing time. This is why I'm not worried about the revamped Knicks; I'm sure Randolph, Marbury and, if it happens, Artest, will get into some trouble next year. Often when returning home a player cracks from the added pressure, from Marbury to Mighty Mouse in Portland. So bring it on in the Atlantic, Artest, especially if Isaiah gives up the valuable David Lee in the process.

P.S. I already expressed my happiness over the Kap-one signing in the prior thread, but one thing to add to all the posters in agreement is that Kapono has a GREAT FT% at a career 85%. This is CRUCIAL, especially at the end of games, as the new back-up SG/SF Dolphino is only 70% career. I can see many end-of-game offensive/defensive switches with the two of them. Ya think Colangelo didn't consider that fact in his two most recent pickups?

Interesting thoughts on Kapono from statsman John Hollinger at ESPN.com. He gave the Raps a C+ grade the signing and had this to say:

I was a bit taken aback by the money here -- $6 million a year for a player I judge inferior to both Carroll and Walton. Kapono had a good year in 2006-07, but he's also had several duds. His projected PER next year of 12.60 is not impressive, and he's not going to add much at the defensive end either.

The reason the grade here isn't worse is because: (a) Kapono answers a short-term need, (b) he fits the system, and (c) they kept the deal short. The Raptors were running low on small forwards, especially with MoPete headed out the door, and Kapono was the best one available within their means. He also lets them space the floor with four shooters around T.J. Ford (Bosh, Bargnani and Parker being the other three), which should make him a good fit there.

But most importantly, they're not paying for his decline years. Kapono is 26 now and will be 30 when the contract ends; there's a huge difference between that and paying somebody like Walton or Carroll until age 33. So while I don't think Kapono is worth $6 million a year, or anything close to it, at least the Raptors limited their downside risk.

"Oh Lord!"

Flipper??
I hope to god that never comes to pass.
Kapowned sounds nice, i can see myself getting used to it, but using it in public....hmmm
Try this one on for size...for Delfino, i suggest Delta-Force but lose the force.
Hmmmm...I like Kapowned!

Peas&Luv

Thanks for that update, Franchise, and it further reaffirms why I wouldn't subscribe to ESPN insider. Hopefully you won't get in trouble for posting it.

Why Hollinger would rank Kapono behind Carroll and Walton is beyond me; Carroll's break out season last year had him shooting 3's at a 41.6% clip (his career average is 90.4%) and he's now kinda redundant with J-Rich and assumedly G-Force resigning. Walton, while great quality with his assists and rebounds, shot 38.7% from 3 (34.1% career average). And d'you think Walton would leave his home base of Southern California?

I think this is yet another attempt to find chinks in BC's armour and anti-Canadian bias, just like most of the ESPN guys (except Euro-loving Chad Ford) dissed BC for drafting Bargs. We will see next season, I guess.

Based on your postings, I find that the bastkeball knowledge is pretty lame. The trades and players being discussed give that up.

Not sure how many of you guys read RealGM, but I lurk there, and this was posted today (on Garbo's recovery):

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=686737&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Also an interesting item that came up was some rumoured interest by the Heat in Mo Pete, which could mean a dual S&T, which could mean we have our MLE back if I understand it all correctly. That'd be kinda sweet, and if it worked out that way (in daydream land, since rumours are quite often completely wrong), who do any of you see the Raps going after?

On Garbo's recovery, based on the reports i keep hearing in the spanish media, he is training very hard aiming to play the Eurobasket (which is played in Spain in early September), but most people think it's unlikely. I would say they give him about a 20% chance of making the selected squad.

If he ends up not playing the Eurobasket, that would be the best deal for the Raps: he wouldn't risk aggravating his injury, but he would also be recovered enough to enter training camp at almost full-rate. However one might also argue that he'd get a huge morale boost getting to play the euro at home, while he'll surely be disappointed if he can't make it.

I think Toronto needs a rebounder off the bench center more than a SF, cause i think CB4, il mago and garbo can play together a lot of minutes.
JC Navarro will be a good 2 in NBA.
Look at Felipe Reyes, in 1 or 2 year he could play in NBA. He is a PF with a great rebounding instinct and a good scorer in the paint.

Navarro clip:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ud8c9x32NK0&mode=related&search=

Garbajosa Postinjury clip:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VlvVIBmTKWY

I had to add my two cents on the whole new nickname debate.

Carlos the Jackal..........Maybe, it's growing on me

Getting Kapowned..........love it

Flipper............hate it but can't get it out of my head. Damn!!!!

Anyways it's two close to VC's handle................Flopper

And TJ,
Obviously I meant to write "too close".
You may fart in my general direction at your leisure for that grammarical oopsy.

sharpy-

I was just weighing in on a discussion from the last thread. While I agree that grammer is important, I'm not 'that guy' who rips on others for it.

Besides, honest mistakes happen and most posts have less gammer mistakes than the essays I hand in at school!

It's "GRAMMAR" not "grammer" (TJ im not referring to you. I'm referring to guys who likes correcting people's GRAMMAR even though they can't spell GRAMMAR properly)

And Sharpy I don't mean to blow your spot =P but I know you were trying to acknowledge the fact that you had a typo but I don't believe the word "gramarical" exist =P I think it's Grammatical".

Oh also know the difference between "than" and "then", "your" and "you're", etc.

Anyways, Grant Hill signed for Phoenix for half as much what the Raptors offered. And Mo Pete might be gingi to Cleveland now O__o

and no one's perfect. =)

by the way "gingi" is supposed to be going in my post aboce haha

Lol, ya… I knew that… I…I misspelled grammar to demonstrate my point!

http://www.sltrib.com/sports/ci_6310773

A Utah article about Mo Pete:

The 6-foot-7, 220-pound shooter lost his starting position, averaged a career-low 21.3 minutes, scored just 8.9 points a game, and made only 42.9 percent of his attempts, including just 35.9 percent from the three-point line.
He slowed a bit defensively, as well, an area in which he built a decent reputation over his first six seasons in the league.
"Overall, Morris had a disappointing season," Raptors president and general manager Bryan Colangelo told the Toronto Globe and Mail after the season ended. "He would tell you that."
Indeed, at age 30, there are those hints and indications that Peterson has already reached the apex of his career, and now is sliding down the back of the mountain.

>> Considering he will get a similar contract to Kapono, I am glad we didn't resign him.

Graham a Pacer!

OK, don't get excited, it's just Stephen Graham. I somehow missed this announcement two days ago. It does mean that we are locked into no more than one Graham.